Mini 1590: Brian's Flavorless Mini (Game Over)

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VOTE: Prof Fridays

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Was thinking of voting Espressojet before I realized I actually like my current vote.

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RL obligations slamming me. Will read through/comment nlt tomorrow.

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I'm a cop. I investigated Marky Mark yesterday. Guilty.

Serious?

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VOTE: Marky Mark

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I received an innocent last night.

....?

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Clusk SKOT and Derivan are all non-entities so far. Marquis and I aren't much better though.

Normally I would say I'd be surprised if the last scum wasn't on Marky Mark's wagon, but since none of the non-voters even posted after ABR claimed a guilty (aside from SKOT) that train of thought is flawed. I.e. the last scum could be anyone.

So Al.....you think Marquis bussed expressojet?

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VOTE: Sharpest-knife-on-tree

SKOT...can you explain how you came to the conclusion that Marky Mark was worth voting at the start of D2?

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looked at the votes and he was the most suspect.

Why was his vote the most suspect?

And if you thought I was #2 (2nd most suspect?) then why did you vote Prof Friday today instead of me......

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SKOT...I'm not obsessed about anything. Your D2 vote on Marky Mark (MM) seemed out of nowhere and deserving of a little more explanation. Coupled with your attempted unvote of him at the end of D2 it comes across as light bussing. And notwithstanding Albert's investigation, MM didn't really do anything that stood out to me D1. All MM did votewise on D1 was vote chaos...and he actually attempted to make a case to support his vote.

So when you say the votecount led you to suspect MM...how so?

What does the D1 votecount say about you? A totally random vote on Hiraki and then you disappear for the rest of the day. And then votecount leads you to MM. That is not very believable IMO.

And then...after I vote you and ask for more detail on your MM suspicions you suddenly decide I'm your second strongest suspect. Despite the fact your first vote today was on Prof Fridays (PF). The same PF who my vote was on all of D1. :LOL:

So in summary...

• SKOT skipped all of D1 aside from a RV on Hiraki
  Opened D2 with an unwarranted VC based vote on MM
  Made an effort after the hammer to unvote MM
  Opened D3 with a vote on PF with no rationale provided
  Switched his vote to me after I questioned his MM vote and proceeded to claim I was his 2nd strongest suspect. This despite the fact that for the entirety of D1 my vote was on PF......who SKOT claims to be his alternate suspect to me.

So HTF am I coming across as suspect in SKOT pov? His vote on me is nothing but clear OMGUS in response to my interest in him and his reasoning doesn't hold water.

Plus he goes on to say he is not going to discuss his suspicions towards MM and gives a some weakass excuse for voting PF ("suspicious feel").

I think there is legitimate cause to suspect SKOT as the last scum.

More votes on SKOT puh-leese.

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Before Albert's guilty there was no reason to expect MMs wagon to take off like it did...and he did try the invite (albeit too late).

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EBWOP: unvote. ..not invite.

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Here...catching up.

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Someone like Havingfitz to provoke him to at least defend himself.

Defend myself against what? Your vote with no rationale?

You were n SKOT yesterday. Is that no longer an option?

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The question is for Prof Friday.

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VOTE: Prof Fridays

L-1

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Y'all are foolish.

I'm a 1-shot BP bodyguard. Protected Albert Night 2. Didn't get notified that I lost my shot (Idk what standard procedure is for that), so I figured the possibility of a JK/RB was out there, but alas. I WIFOM'd last night and decided to protect bjc last night. Night 1 was Marky Mark. I kinda thought he was town at the time, but looking back on it, it makes sense. If I'm lucky, I'll be dead tomorrow.

SO I suggest you take your votes back.

That's a lot of protecting for 1-shot. And any BP role I've ever seen has the BP die if their protectee is targeted....as you are inferring wrt Albert.

Tl:dr;

your claim sucks.

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I brain farted on the BP aspect of DPs claim.

So are people basing belief of PF's claim on the possibility that Albert was jk'd N2?

And if PF thought he might have protected who we thought was a cop N2...why not protect him N3?

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I thought surely the mafia wouldn't be so silly as to attempt to kill Albert again. But alas, I underestimated how desperate the last mafia member was.

This comes across as complete bollocks.

1. You thought Albert was a cop
2. You "protected" him N2.
3. There was no NK N2 but afayk you still have a 1shot BP
4. You assume Albert was targeted N2
5. Yet you decide scum will give up and decide to protect someone who in no way warranted protection over a perceived cop.
6. A.k.a. Bullshit

What do you mean you WIFOM'd last night and decided to protect bjc?

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PF....
Why was there no nk N2?
Why did you think bjc would be targeted over a claimed ~cop?

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PF....
Why was there no nk N2?
Why did you think bjc would be targeted over a claimed ~cop?

K. I think I've explained this twice now.

So say it again.

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You did not answer my Post 453 questions in your Post 446...which came right after I asked different questions. 
 
My questions are:

- Why was there no NK N2?  To which your quoted post only says it's due to Occam's Razor.  WTF?  How?  I.e. answer my question.
 
and
 
- Why did you think bjc would be a target over the claimed cop?  To which your quoted post says bjc seemed the next least scummy (how so?) and how does having "wiggle room" justify anything?  You mean to say since we have a few mislynches to spare it didn't matter if Albert was killed?    WTF?
 
So while I would still like an answer to my first question (why was there no NK N2?)...I'm assuming your reason for thinking bjc would be targetted over the claimed cop was because YOU thought he was the next least scummy and therefore scum would want to kill him (bjc), but if not...no big deal if Albert the ~cop was killed because we can afford it?
 
And because scum did target the claimed cop they must be desperate.  ?????????????
 
 
PF...your claim continues to make no sense.

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PF...have you asked the mod whether or not you still have your ~ 1 shot BP?

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Skot, are you the cop?

no I am not the cop

Assuming there even is one.

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Can we not lynch anyone yet?

Marquis is already at L-1 and it would be nice to have a little more chat before the day ends.

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Thank you for stating exactly what I said earlier.

WTF are you talking about?

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VOTE: Marquis

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Actually...looking over votecounts....PF and Anatole stand out. PF's claim should sort him out eventually so I'll:

VOTE: Anatole

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First off...this isn't how you compare to me. I'm ~confirmed town and you aren't.

You were off Espresso (as was PF).
On or off MM made no difference due to his guilty.
You were on Chaos (as was PF).
I actually like you more than PF but his claim buys him a 1 day pass.

If you flip town and PF dies tonight....bjc is next.

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OK...if anyone doesn't think phoc and I are confirmed town, raise your hand and explain why.
 
That said...the SKOT wagon needs to go somewhere else.  I was all over him yesterday but when I was brought into the neighborhood I saw that Albert had a very strong townread on SKOT.  As is his norm he didn't go into any detail other than being confident in his read.  In fact, the only reason SKOT wasn't brought into the neighborhood last night instead of me was because they wanted to clear an unknown (me) and have another confirmed in the hood.  Or found guilty and game over.  Result - I'm confirmed in the hood.
 
So phoc...you need to get off the No Lynch thing.  Any town on the SKOT wagon need to get off it.
 
I would support an Anatole, bjc, or Marquis wagon. 
 
And those of you three who may be town...do not get worked up at being a candidate.  You win with town.  If Prof is telling the truth and can protect phoc tonight we get another investigation result for the win or another confirmed town. 
 

tl:dr;

Today's lynch needs to be Anatole, bjc, or Marquis.

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oh and marquis anti no lnch statement is golden

Yeah...cause scum wouldn't want to drag things out by avoiding a possible mislynch

Anatole...unvote SKOT. Pick between bjc and Marquis and I'll join you.

UNVOTE:

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I'll think a lot more of him if he doesn't show up and hammer.

Note to Clusk

.....don't hammer.

Note to Anatole

...unvote and vote elsewhere.

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P.edit....cool.

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Deal's a deal.

VOTE: Marquis

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That's a lynch.

If Marquis happens to be scum...yay!

If not...

you'd better protect phoc tonight Prof.

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I can't believe scum did not target phoc...looking at you Prof

I predict a town win nlt tomorrow.

Can wait to see what the investigation results were and vote.

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We're down to two people who aren't confirmed (IMO). Prof and bjc. Anatole death instead of phok being targeted (ie Prof dying) makes no sense.

VOTE: Prof Fridays

If he flips town...bjc goes tomorrow. Game over.

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Something's telling me this is scum being tricky to try and set up Prof Fridays for a mislynch

Why risk an investigation? No idea why no nk n2 but allowing investigations to continue makes zero sense.

But I do agree that even if Prof is town the game is still won.

How so? By voting you next?

Are you all stupid?! What the hell was that?! I protected phok. It was announced that I would protect phok. OF COURSE SCUM WOULD NOT TRY TO KILL PHOK. Anatole's death in no way disproves my claim. This is absurd. bjc is scum.

Why wouldn't scum test your claim and ensure they could at a minimum eliminate Phoc the next night? By targeting others all scum is doing is allowing more clears or being found out themself.

Unless phoc is fcuking with us and gave up his only remaining partner...this game is in the bag. If you are town Prof no fears...you still get the win. In fact...just vote yourself to get us to the win that much quicker?

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So hammer.

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What SKOT says.

Unless SKOT gave up his last partner N1 then he's town. If he is scum he deserves the win.

VOTE: BJC

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bjc...why did you kill suspect Anatole over ~ confirmed town me?

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Question wasn't for you PF.