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Yokay, RVS is taking to long.
Someone......................... say something.-
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In post 12, TellTaleHeart wrote:I'm a neighbor with BBT and from the pregame chatter coupled with the opening vote while lacking a forthcoming explanation, I'm already very distrusting of him.
VOTE: BBT
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In post 20, Boonskiies wrote:It was only page 1, how is RVS taking too long?
I have played with BBT before, he seemed like a super wild card to me in that game. He flipped scum.
Skipping the endless drivel of "what's the point of RVS", I'll conclude that it simply isn't fun.-
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Sorry, but I don't have much to contribute today.
Casting my vote in the meantime VOTE: Telltaleheart-
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Okay, let's get back on track.
Wake88 appears to be right, there is little chance that a "pre game" chat, would also allow the ability to post from it (Isn't that mod kill worthy?).
Why come out as neighbors right away?
Isn't that something scum would do to protect each other?
I thought this was a normal game?
Doctor Pepper's response made it ever worst. I was thinking about voting BBT, but he's kind of high on the VC, so I'm leaving it on TTT for now.-
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Missing details is NOT a scum tell. If anything it is a town tell.-
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In post 297, Anatole Kuragin wrote:VOTE: wake
Literally nobody is saying you are scum JUST for not reading "every post" you are scum for a myriad of reasons now, but the one you are TRYING to refute is that you are making cases on people and actively posting while not reading your target's posts and complaining about not having time to read every post. As if posting these braindead cases does not require any time at all.
Myriad of reasons? Name 5...-
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In post 301, Anatole Kuragin wrote:In post 296, Csareo wrote:Missing details is NOT a scum tell. If anything it is a town tell.
What the fuck does that have to do with him making reads on players without reading THEIR posts? And it's not "details" it's entire posts that HE asked for as if to imply he was scumhunting which he clearly wasn't because he ignored the result.
Are you reading the game at all?
I am, but your argument isn't making sense.
In no way does missing details make him scum, even if he made a read out of them.
Which if you think about it, is the opposite of logic, going off the premise that wake never knew those missed details existed to omit from his case.-
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Anatole, that is not 5 different reasons. It is the same reason repeated in 7 posts.-
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In my time playing mafia, I established two things as true.
1. Town slips more than mafia
2. Being wrong, forgetting something, or missing something, is a town tell.-
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Calm down, you're both embarrassing yourselves.
I agree with wake88, the reasoning is asinine, but the reaction was taken out of context.
Anatole is trolling wake, seemingly for those reactions.
Unless it was staged or acted, that's good evidence wake is town.
Anatole may be a trollish town player, but who know's at this point.-
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TBH telltaleheart, a game with pre-talk, neighbors, and the ability to quote is not normal.-
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In post 339, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Pre-game talk while waiting for all confirmations is normal. I've had it in every game I have played on this site.
Literally, it would only make sense if you're a mason, traitor, or in mafia.
Usually the neighbor is scum, which is why your claim is even more suspicious.-
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Yes, and the neighbor is honestly a useless role, so mods only use them if there is a scum element intertwined in the neighborhood.-
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After reviewing the game, I am almost certain he's scum VOTE: anatole
Probably on the same team as one of the neighbors, but we'll pick one of you off depending on how anatole flips.-
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Case for Anatole + BBT + TTH
Well, I first started to think you were scum, when I saw your early vote and unvote for BBT.
VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
Why do you need to quote to us your discussion of who to night kill?
Usually this is fine, but the unexpected unvote took me by suprise. Scum have a common tactic of voting their buddy early game. Nothing extremely indicative, but certainly suspicious.
Didn't see a justification either.
uhhh
UNVOTE: blue
Then there was this whole interaction with grey ice. Boy, did the sirens go a'flying.
It is masons except they don't know eachother's alignment.
Having at least one scum in a neighborhood has been the situation in every single game I have played with neighbors.
In post 81, GreyICE wrote:
Anatole, what games have you played with neighbors? I find your analysis fascinating.
Sorry, I realized I can't really discuss this more.
In post 106, GreyICE wrote:
Yo, Anatole, I'm calling bullshit
I went through your games. Your last game with a neighborhood had two town neighbors. Do you know what, Anatole? They were both town. Your last game with Neighbors, Anatole.
You know what? There's a very old philosophy. It goes Lynch. All. Liars.
I find it nearly impossible to believe that you didn't even bother to do a quick double check as part of an actual sincere scumhunting effort (instead of piggybacking on the hate). And then you dodged my question, Anatole.
Lynch. All. Liars.
Vote: Anatole
You can lynch Boonskiies when I'm dead for a twofer, fyi.
This post also made me relax my read on BBT, but now that I go back, all of it seems like a way to temporarily relieve himself of pressure, even bringing the statement up in the beginning of his post.
Further indication that the two are in cahoots. Notice how know hostility came back from anatole following this vote? Completely unlike his meta, right?
All this talk of whether neighbours have pre-game chat is ridiculous.
Every game I have played in I have had pre-game chat if my role allows for it. It's usually quite short as you only have as long as it takes for the majority/everyone to confirm for the game. When that's done, the chat is closed.
Boon's 93 was awful.
Anatole lying is also pretty bad.
VOTE: Anatole
Now, skipping the PT topic post which can be found, here
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6201895
That was literally the scummiest thing I've seen. I'm almost certain it was forged, or details were ommited. The formatting was off, as if someone editted it.
Anyone notice that?
That was my line of thinking. I just starting doubting myself after constantly re-reading it. I think TTH knew I was suspicious and decided to come after me from the get-go.
I hope my stance is a little clearer with this information out.
VOTE: TTH
Convenient, right? Especially after reviewing BBT's earlier posts in the game, Although, it is possible, that telltale is protecting himself, as BBT found this information out earlier.
Could it be a hit, is she trying to remove the liability?
I don't see the scumslip.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:24 am
Uhh.. so are you going to explain it wake?
This is the second time anatole has came in defense of TTH
It also appears to be the only time the two came into direct conflict, which is why I'm doubting my read on BBT. Here is the third defense....
Why is your first instinct upon reading "tackle a read" to assume the aim is to fabricate a false one?
But HERE is the big tip off, the mother of all fuck ups
I'm probably suffering with conf. bias here.
When I saw my role PM, I automatically assumed that TTH was scum. Then I convinced myself after post 3 of the neighbour thread that she slipped. However, during recent exchanges in this thread, I'm beginning to think that TTH is actually town.
If you are town TTH, you made a pretty big mistake in your opening post of this game. You should have waited to see what developed.
UNVOTE:
God almighty, perhaps they're creating some elaborate plan, it is beyond me. This got me all worked up with theories, and almost certain the above is scum motivated.
In support of my anatole-BBT scum team theory, this fits perfectly. I notice that TTH took off pressure of BBTm despite what she contrary said, following the unvote.
Come on, who do you take us for? Redirecting suspicion
In the midst of the ongoing storms in me vs. BBT and Boon vs. GreyICE, I see that someone is making posts while taking care to sit it all out.
This vote flip was the final tip off on anatole, sychronized perfectly with BBT.
I'm going to keep digging at this until I get more info from reactions and such. That you're dissembling this and now lying about my words is pretty revealing in itself.
VOTE: Anatole Kuragin
Maybe this vote will.
VOTE: Wake88
VOTE: wake
Literally nobody is saying you are scum JUST for not reading "every post" you are scum for a myriad of reasons now, but the one you are TRYING to refute is that you are making cases on people and actively posting while not reading your target's posts and complaining about not having time to read every post. As if posting these braindead cases does not require any time at all.-
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In conclusion, I think there are two possibilities. Here they are ranked one through three.
1. Anatole is scum
2. Anatole is scum with telltaleheart (most likely)
3. Anatole is scum with bluebloodedtoffee (likely)-
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Actually, boonskies, doogal, and the wolf person are pretty convincing. I'm better off with a BBT lynch, but am worried about the VC.
Is he at L-1? If so, thenIntent to Lynch-
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UNVOTE: anatole
The more I think about it, the less I am convinced he is a strong scum read.
BBT and TTH on the other hand, are, so that's why I'm unvoting.
A flip from either BBT and TTH would reveal a lot as well.-
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VOTE: BBT
I trust you enough that you're telling the truth about being at L-3.-
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1. The vote flip on me by BBT is the most shameful scum tells this game. This guy is literally hopping votes for whoever is the greatest threat to him. First it was TTH, then Wake, and now me? How is this piss not scum motivated?
He's more interested in protecting himself than playing for town, and uses the vote button way more care free than I would choose to like.
2. @Massive, it isn't that I liked their cases, but the more I think about it, I realize anatole is the least scummy out of the three, most of his stuff can be explained by meta, and if I accept him as partner with one scum, I contradict on alliance tells with the other (TTH +BBT).
3.That quick hammer policy is so crazy anti town that Boons is on my scum list.
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic. I've seen him play enough to know he's a bit of a troll.-
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Think what you must. To me, it seems you're starting wagons on whomever gives you the most pressure.-
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The only person you have to blame is yourself.
Instead of scum hunting and giving us reasons to think you're town, you continue to make scum tells, and you continue to defend yourself, abusing your vote power.
I noticed this pattern immediately when I started playing the game. Town under pressure try to prove an alternative case, and scum hunt someone else. Scum under pressure spend all their time proving they're town, even voting those who accuse them of being scum (noob scum)-
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What's attractive about this lynch, is that you are not only throwing a million scum tells at us every other post, but also reveal a lot about TTH in your death.
One of the rare cases I'm open to a policy lynch, which unfortunately isn't necessary, because I'm pretty certain you're scum.
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It strongly indicates (but not for certain) that the other player is of the opposite allignment. Something I became suspicious of, after they voted each other in the beginning.
We will also discover a lot about how this neighborhood works, something TTH ran from answering when asked.-
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I opened up to the possibility that they are launching some elaborate plan, but it's unlikely.
@BBT- Asking to be lynched? This is going to be sad when you flip town. Vote for yourself if that is the case.-
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Actually, it was a mistake. It should read "if you flip town"-
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Is this your only comment?
Come on, you pretty much lurked the entire game.
Replace out.-
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Searching for posts to provide massive.
For now, I'm saying this
STOP GETTING BEHIND SOME BULLSHIT WAGON BEING MADE BY A DEFENSIVE AND REACTIONARY PLAYER MAKING HIS CASE ON ONE SPELLING ERROR.
Thank you. Experienced players know this has happened to many people before.
The wagon is evidentally reactionary. Has BBT voted someone who wasn't pressuring him?
Vote flipping to people who pressure you is the scummiest thing imaginable.-
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I'm also scum reading greyice, but what's more alarming is BBT voting everyone who scum reads him, or provides a threat.
What have we learned since 1986, people?-
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Doesn't it apply the same for town. Why is he voting everyone who replies to him if he wants to be a helpful and productive townie?-
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In post 438, TellTaleHeart wrote:In post 403, Csareo wrote:It strongly indicates (but not for certain) that the other player is of the opposite allignment. Something I became suspicious of, after they voted each other in the beginning.
We will also discover a lot about how this neighborhood works, something TTH ran from answering when asked.
I thought your theory was that we were both scum and fabricating the neighborhood conversation and that Anatole was trying to run interference to cover up the ruse. Now it's that we're actually a different alignment? Why is the story now changing?
Also, I'm not sure what questions about the neighborhood are outstanding. What are they?
You've been asked in two posts. Are you paying attention?
@TTH would you answer these two questions... 1. Is BBT your only neighbor? 2. Do you have day chat. Both of those questions are still outstanding.-
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I seemed to think like you , although the anatole vote was a leap in the wrong direction, as I'm starting to discover.-
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Not sure I get the case on me. Especially with the mountain of scumminess on BBT.
It's actually to the point of frustrating.-
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Oppurtunistic vote jumping, lack of scum hunting, and the fact that he is more focused on removing threats to himself than hunting scum, is why I'm voting him.-
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Please don't go inactive people. It would help if a few players replace out.-
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There's a general rule for lynches are reached.
Someone claims something was done with scum intention.
People agree and decide to vote.
The real question is whether that supposed "scum intention" has evidence behind it, or speculation.
95% of lynches in this game are pure speculation of what someone could be doing, yet there appears to be actual, solid logic for voting BBT. Do what you wish.-
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Your case on me is weak. Even ruffles case is weak.
It was pretty much "You're scum because you voted X"-
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Let's end the speculation. I answered the question to reinforce support for the BBT lynch, since I feel he is scum.
Something that is frustrating me deeply, is how everyone laxed pressure, especially after all we witnessed.-
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Suddenly BBT scum reads boonskies as well.
Reactionary plays are scum plays.
Pro Tip: Stop fucking voting for those who scum read you-
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@Ruffling- Can you explain the case on me a little more? All I could see was a summary of my actions and vote history.
@BBT- Who do you think is town?-
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Ignorance does appear to be prevalent.
I get pissed everytime I see BBT responding to my quotes, because his only concern appears to be defense.
I have a gut read on ruffling and flubbernugget. Flubber mostly for meta reasons.
Not sure about boonskies, but I know anatole seems different.
If BBT flips scum, I would look towards pressuring TTH and Ruffling.
Wake, please help progress the game, as your posts make a lot of sense to be honest.-
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I would rather lynch BBT, and have greyice replace out (so we can question the new player).
I'm not as sure about that wagon, but I haven't seen BBT flip to that wagon yet.
Here's his vote history.
BBT Vote History
He actually voted TTH before this reaction, but it could of been motivated by two things (from a scum mindset)
1. I'm afraid of TTH outing me as scum
2. TTH is my scumbuddy, and we are fooling people by disalligning ourselves \
Have been very open to the idea that he posted the Scum PM. I can't be certain of anything though, and I am not strongly scum reading TTH.
VOTE: TTH
I'm a neighbor with BBT and from the pregame chatter coupled with the opening vote while lacking a forthcoming explanation, I'm already very distrusting of him.
VOTE: BBT
I guess I'm wondering, "Why was it TTH?"
BBT, who said he voted TTH because he thought she was scum from a pre-topic
Very interesting. You knew I suspected you right? That's why you've come out all guns blazing on me. Opening vote? It's RVS, is there a reason you're so paranoid?
I believe TTH slipped to me in the neighbour thread. It looked like she was replying to somebody else with the way she started her message. I think she knows she slipped and is trying to get me out of the way.
You're fucking kidding me, right? This is scummy as hell, because a player who has evidence from a PT that another player may be scum, should JUSTIFY that vote, instead of saying nothing and letting it pass as a naked RVS vote.
Wake88 put forward a scenario of TTH covering her ass, but IMHO, I think BBT was the one reacting from TTH.
@Ruffling- Partly why I thought he forged the PT
All this talk of whether neighbours have pre-game chat is ridiculous.
Every game I have played in I have had pre-game chat if my role allows for it. It's usually quite short as you only have as long as it takes for the majority/everyone to confirm for the game. When that's done, the chat is closed.
Boon's 93 was awful.
Anatole lying is also pretty bad.
VOTE: Anatole
This was a real kicker. 9 posts into the game, and he completely drops his scum read on TTH to pursue anatole, before greyice or anatole had been questioned even ONCE if what was said is even true. Really, you expect us to buy into this bullshit?
Then here's what really set me off. TTH only had ONE post in defense of herself, and BAM, BBT unvotes.
Only question I'm wondering, is if this was a buddy scenario being executed???
Then he town reads him...
This guy knows what he is talking about.
AK, where are you at right now? Who are you scum-reading?
Look, TTH posts once after the unvote and we have this
I think she is town
And here he jumps on a weak inactive wagon.
@doogal - what question have you asked me?
@scrambles - great contribution so far. Have a vote
VOTE: Scrambles
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is no
I didn't even scum read him until this post. It became clear he was trying to get a quick and cheap lynch.
Then after jumping on a cheap attack against wake over him missing a post, he casts another cheap vote AFTER the pressure shifted to himself rather than wake, which is a reactionary tell.
Maybe this vote will.
VOTE: Wake88
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everythin
Look at this lovely justification
Because I think you're scum.
Now he reverses his word and scum reads TTH, after the Wake88 wagon fails. Oppurtunistic and reactionary again...
Why is it useless?
It's almost as good as a mason except you obviously don't know the other person's alignment. If there is scum in the neighbour thread, I can assure you that it's TTH.
Also, if TTH is scum, it should guarantee me some time in this game because as soon as I'm lynched/killed and flip town, TTH is like auto lynched after that.
Then he has the audacity to say this...
Csareo, you've been vote-hopping all over this game. Trying to decide which lynch looks achievable?
Kissing up to wake here again, looking for his oppurtunistic wagon
Here are my thoughts;
VOTE: Csareo
GJ on VC Wake.
Look what he said a couple of posts before he voted for me...
After reviewing;
Csareo's posting hasn't been too bad.
I could happily vote Rufflig or Flubber. Flubber was completely off my radar. He looks just as bad as Scrambles. Would happily lynch either of them right now.
Now, after all this shit, he is ready for a lynch on these two? After flubber defends his wagons that is.
I can't find the final post, but after Boonskies votes for BBT, BBT decides to scum read Boonskies.
Either the worst town player, ever, or scum. Take your gambit.-
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There is convincing evidence BBT and TTH are on the same team, but it is mostly speculative.-
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I guess the convincing parts are the evidence that support the speculation, although like everything else in this game, nothing is certain.-
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In post 542, massive wrote:So ... we call this "confbias" in this game, and it's not actual evidence.
Confirmation bias is something else entirely. It is affirmation because others do so as well, which isn't the case here.-
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Can we PLEASE kill him now?-
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You've not done ONE single thing to prove that. You should try, and I mean with all your energy, to convince us to lynch a someone better.-
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In post 557, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 556, Csareo wrote:Justify the read. Now.
Can you ISO me?
If you can't find why I think Boon is scum, I'll quote it for you.
I've read nearly everyone's ISO.
Justify the vote.-
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In post 559, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You should ISO me now.
See if you can find it.
I promise it's there.
What kind of fucking game is this? I read your ISO many times. More than anyone in this thread.
It is a bunch of vote flips and reads. Justify the vote.-
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That's the only reason you have for voting him? Dude, bear with me.
I could understand a player like massive casting a vote, as he hasn't abused the vote function, but you've flopped around so many times.
There is no logical reason why we shouldn't lynch you, unless you can provide a VERY good case that I can get behind.-
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In post 543, Wake1 wrote:Honestly, I'm a bit lost in this game. I reread the whole game three times, yet am unable to remember things or muster enough analytical might to bring issues to the forefront. And when I do find time then another irl crisis or challenge happens. Gonna put some music on and read over the game again.
It really helps me when posts are short and succinct. Otherwise it's tough keeping it all in the short-term memory.
Just tell us your thoughts on BBT.
Focus on the key players for now.
No pressure to be perfect now. This stage is really more for figuring the game out.-
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I can sympathize with players who are having a bad day, but this is looking a little like an appeal to emotion.-
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It isn't ATE?
OK. Don't lynch me because I'm town.
Someone give me a good case to sheep so I can get myself together for D2.
Now I'm in No-Man's-Land and I don't know what to do.
Just waiting for ruffling to hop in and defend you.-
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I've read enough of your past games to know your meta is off.
You're usually extremely eager to scum hunt, have a high activity volume, and are constantly asking questions.
I'm not seeing any of that here. You remind me of my time as noob scum.
Sheeping every wagon, being reactionary to those who scum read me, lots of ATE.
My biggest scum tell is extreme theme analysis to fake scum hunting, but that doesn't really apply here.-
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