Mini 1623

[FuDuzn]

Howdy all.

I skimmed throught the game earlier and will most likely be back later tonight with some sort of catchup.

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I'm just popping in with what little reads I've developed so far.

I see nothing bad in Copper and Mykonian's interaction earlier. They both seemed to want to get more information out and develop reads. Town points for both of them.

Flubber is looking more scummy than anyone at the moment, but it's too early for me to feel confident in that read, and I don't like that Myko seems so sure about it right now.

I like that post CT, you and Dessew are easily my top townies for today. Still if myko is guilty of it so is Flubber, and he had an ulterior motive for calling me and Dessew town when he did.

This little interaction has quickly jumped out at me.

I really don't like copper, everything he says sounds so contrived and said with an agenda in mind.

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@Fuz
That agenda is called looking for scum and giving reads.

I will have to give you a quick iso, it sounds like you have a machine that generates pro town sounding posts. Nothing sounds genuine.

I will report back with results.

Pre edit: might as well give flubbs the ol iso treatment as well, since he seems to be the popular vote at the time.

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It's statistically unlikely that all the scum players have been active, so for me one or more are probably in the lurker pool for now. I can see Flubber Swag / Boon , but I don't like associative reads without flips.

Convenient that you say scum is lurking when you have the most posts, are you someone that views lurking as always scummy?

Also, you don't like associative reads yet decide to give them anyways? Also, how can you get an associative read from a lurker?

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Woah there, don't go jumping to a conclusion. It is just 'interesting' when the most active player calls lurkers scummy.

Starting to get you a bit more though, I was ready to vote you but will hold off.

Need to see if this case on flubbs is legit now.

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Fu you're my hero for not breaking my massive set of rant posts.

What can I say, I am a man of the people.

Flubbs, are you a phone poster? I ask because I almost am exclusive one and tend to have shorter rapid fire posts like you.

But, your iso did not give real content outside of rvs(and maybe a bit afterwards). This actually makes me not want to vote you, where the scummy vibe is coming from I do not know.

Pretty clear scum is trying to ride this wagon.

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Bro, I just replaced in this game.

Cry me a river for having to read three pages.

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One thing though myknonian we have to address.

Why were you fairly quick to point out that what copper is doing a newb and not a scum tell?

To the mykonian iso train we go!

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Boon, how do you feel about a mykonian lynch?

Also, I was just making jokes with my last post. No worries.

Pre edit: ooh that dessew as well, I feel ready to vote mykonian but need to at least kick the tires on dessew first.

Pre edit part deux: dude no way, that is my role as well *hi5*. But boon, do you really want him to lie about his role just to save himself?

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Eh, Dessew seems town. I would not feel comfortable with his lynch. Mykonian on the other hand, he needs votes, lets vote him.

VOTE: mykonian

Pre edit: Boon, just stop with that. Your total devotion to not wanting flubbs lynched is weird to me.

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UNVOTE:

Ok I don't like Boon anymore, talk about opportunistic.

VOTE: Boonskiies

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I think Dessew is town after skimming his iso actually.

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How is it opportunistic? I've been giving interest in me voting for mykonian for a while now.

Yet didn't vote him until I came in and pushed the issue?

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Flubbs, please tell me your avatar is from a cover of a cannibal corpse CD.

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Took me a bit, but than I realized it was Butchered At Birth.

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Boonskiies quote 250 at the start of D2 for me.

I believe in you.

Why do you trust Boonskies?

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Ok flubbs, you trust everyone defending you as town......why?

Also, than why not state you trust me.

Plus, you can't seriously trust boon as town with his uber defense of you out of nowhere.

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Ok flubbs, you trust everyone defending you as town......why?.

Swags iso just reminded me that he was the one who said he trusted those defending flubber, not actually Flubbs himself.

Also, swags seems to be all in on protecting flubbs, much in the same way that boon is. The only difference is that swags has been consistent the whold game with it while boon just randomly jumped on the protect flubbs wagon. Makes me feel more confident in a boon lynch tbh.

I am not sure what you are going on about Dessew.

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I'm slightly scum reading copper. Not my strongest read, but no way is he a town read of mine.

Basically, I wouldn't fight it if a wagon started up on him.

What he said.

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That's the thing Dessew, posts like 258 illustrates flubbs is being forthright and honest with his reads, as flaky as they may be.

If you feel Boon is scum as than join me on his wagon. His actions are much scummier than flubbs.

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No, vote Boon.

Dessew is town.

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or, you know, we could just lynch flubber.

Flubbs or Dessew being lynched will not happen on my watch.

Come one Myko, you don't trust flubbs, but flubbs trusts boon.......compromise and vote Boon with us.

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Fu do you understand what I trust Boon with?

I am afraid to ask.

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I am scum reading boon, in fact I am voting him and think he is the best lynch.

I even tried to get you to vote him(I think I did at least), if I haven't than I will extend an invitation to join his wagon.

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Hey droog, you seem like a smart guy.

Vote Boonskies with me.

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Bro, I just replaced in this game.

Cry me a river for having to read three pages.

It's not the 3 pages, bro. It's the content of the pages. I skimmed over, and I'm sorry you think 9 pages to read is so hard. You obviously think it is if you think I thought just reading the pages is what I was trying to infer was bad.

To everyone else...GET OFF OF FLUBBER! Seriously. He's so freaking town, that he should be considered NK bait.

Flubber, claim a PR. I want you to lie if you don't have one, as you will be 100% drawing the night kill from scum. This town is going to lynch an obvious town slot.

Before anyone says anything, yes, if you guys are going to be dumb and vote him, I want him to lie as town. There are scenarios where that is acceptable, and I believe this to be one. Flubber is not day 1 lynch material. We will get no information from that.

This post is why Boonskies is scum. Out of left defense of flubbs, and quite an extreme defense. Does kind of make me rethink my read on flubbs as well.

And I haven't heavily targeted you boon, just want everybody to vote you.

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Oh my, only two days left till deadline.

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Come on ak, together we can make this happen.

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Flubbs, now what is your take on Boonskies' extreme protection of you?

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Wait a sec guys, don't jump on this too quickly.

I tend to believe that Boonskies was probably trying to buddy flubbs, seems way to obvious for them to be scum buddies.

I would like flubbs take though.

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Good point copper, but why vote flubbs now?

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That post was after I was trying to get why flubbs was trust of Boonskies. It wasn't like flubbs was doing some extreme distancing similar to Boonskies extreme buddying of Flubber.

Imo, scum is most likely to buddy and white knight a townie in the way that Boonskies did.

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I wanted to see how things played out but things are going quick.

I am a town roleblocker, there was no night kill. I blocked mykonian.

Discuss.

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Why doesn't it make sense? I blocked you and there was no kill.

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I would love to hear mykonians explanation here since I roleblocked him yet again last night.

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VOTE: mykonian

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Why are we unvoting Myko?

Myko, are you saying that there are two separate scum factions and our mod gave neither the ability to kill at night? Also someone mentioned it, but in any multiball game I have played the flavor color of the scum factions have been different.......or at the very least will have different faction names.

So Myko, please explain how I roleblocked you twice and there are no night kills? Are you saying that the mod also gave no nightkill ability to scum?

The only think that would be plausible is if it is a cult like scum and have a recruiting ability......but would that be considered normal?

The most obvious solution is generally the the correct solution people. Myko is scum.

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Reinoe, if he is a godfather does that matter?

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Except that a godfather would illicit an inno result regardless.

You are over thinking this. Explain no night kills with me blocking myko twice and him trying to say it is multiball....yet still no night kills. If Myko is not scum than scum is either not playing(and than should be black balled) or empking completely borked the scum......which of course is not the case.

Therefore Myko is scum.

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I promise you that will not happen.

I get wanting to nl and get another investigation, it just is logically I see no way mykonian isn't a godfather. Especially after his post where he claimed, it reeked of desperation and had so many holes in it as I just described.

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I promise you that will not happen.

I get wanting to nl and get another investigation, it just is logically I see no way mykonian isn't a godfather. Especially after his post where he claimed, it reeked of desperation and had so many holes in it as I just described.

I am just going to keep quoting this.

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13 players, maybe there are 4 scum.......but with no night kill after me blocking Myko I would seriously doubt it.

Even in the crazy scenario that Myko is not scum........we are still in a very good situation.

Lynch Myko, we discuss who I block, ????, profit.

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Seriously, am I the only one using logical thinking here?

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Dessew and copper, yet you continue to fail to understand THAT I BLOCKED HIM TWICE AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY NIGHT KILLS.

Please go back and read his post where he claimed, it is desperation at it's mostly finest. He made some assumptions that are logically asinine purely for the purpose of protecting himself.

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Myko, you still haven't explained how I can block you two nights in a row and their have been no nightkills.

You said there may be multiball, do you really think that the mod gave no no night kill ability to two scum factions? Or even simpler, do you really think the single scum faction has no night kill ability?

See? Makes no sense, logical fallacy's equal you the last scum.

Pre edit: Than check me then, and no I did not say there is no chance that Myko isn't scum.......just that with everything that has transpired that it is logically super unlikely.

And you have played with people who have claimed scum as town? Really?

Pre edit 2: This is the desperation from Myko I was talking about......logical fallacy's.

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Ya I an still surprised that scum doesn't get night kills(apparently) and that mykonian somehow wasn't scum.

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Gf is normal, I thought that had to be the reason.

I blocked swag last night.

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Unless by some luck I actually did block the night kill.

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In case myko is not mafia, Cop goes on nati, Rolecop goes on dessew, Roleblocker goes on me.

Shit, I thought swag wanted me to block someone else......which is why I blocked him.

It seems pretty clear he is scum now. If you do decide to lynch me than lynch him tomorrow.

VOTE: swag

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You say you are the towniest town because you refused to vote Myko(white knighting?). You say if we rolecop you that it will come back vanilla town(which is passively saying not to rolecop you).

Plus, and I helped you because I am an idiot, you wanted me to block you. Misdirection anyone?

Plus, and maybe I confusing you with another player, but didn't you take claim doc?

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*fake claim

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I just don't like that swag wants all the actions on him, he seems more worried about making sure he is cleared instead of actually finding scum.

Is there some sort of super godfather that is immune to all night actions, and is that normal if there is?

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And at the risk of wifom, I would not leave the non counter claimed cop alive......especially if no countered my roleblocker 'fake claim'.

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Though shit, forgot there appears to be no night kill.

My previous post is moot than.

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Dessew, are you saying I am trolling this game? Come on man, I am not that type of player.

Also, I am not attacking swag because I blocked him. I am attacking him because he has been trying to guide the night actions purely to make sure he appears cleared. That has been his entire motivation, I don't see anything be has done to at least catch scum.

And of course I was wrong about Myko, I just couldn't logically think of another reason how I blocked him twice and their weren't any night kills. In retrospect I got a bit tunnely with it.

And you think I am scum that means I would have bussed the universal backup on Day 1, I am the type that may buss a buddy, but no way I am bussing a scum pr when I had a vanilla scum to buss instead.

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@Fu: have you addressed the setup itself?

You mean in regards to the pr situation?

Listen, I believe that swag has a godfather ability, which is why he keeps asking for the role block and not a cop check. I also believe mafia has a choice of kill or recruit. Would explain the lack of night kills the first couple nights, and if my theory is correct is why nothing happened last Night. Also swag fake claimed doc and than quickly retracted once Myko claimed, and than tried to pass it off as a town move. I don't buy it one bit.

I am also starting to believe Dessew is someone who has been recruited. And if everyone is telling the truth than killing me kills a town pr and killing swag kills a vt. And because of reasons stated I don't believe in a no lynch.

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And Dessew, why don't you want any investigation on swag? Expand why his play doesn't make sense as scum.

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Recruiting is non normal??

I asked if it was normal or not earlier and didn't get an answer.

Than no night kills makes zero sense.

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If swag isn't scum I may leave this site.

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What? If there was a serial killer wouldn't there be night kills?

Swag, reinoe for scum with an outside shot of AK.

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No, there has already been one scum flip so I think most likely the last two scum(or not town) people are you and swag.

2+1=3

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Actually two scum flips........I was.never good at mathing.

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Again I said scum, or not town. Also, explain a serial killer with no night kills.

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I could see a traitor explaining things.

And Jesus titty fucking Christ reinoe, when did I say there is no possibility of a sk?

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I still want swag and reinoe to die, but no lynch may be the best as I think about it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: no lynch

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Well I assume if someone dies he would mention it so that person does not post.

I am not saying who I blocked quite yet.

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.....care to explain?

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Enough setup talk, we need the cop and rolecop results.

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Explain my gambit, I want other pr's to say what they did before I say who I say who I blocked.

Do I need to spell out why I want that?

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Flubbs...

Explain my gambit

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I literally have no idea what you are going on about.

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Well I would call him scum if he said I was scum, for obvs reasons.

I blocked swag, I was trying to see if I could catch a pr in a lie.
VOTE: goblin

L-1 I believe.

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Yes, outside of the mykonian thing we had this played well.

So empking, explain the lack of night kills.

Pre edit: So mafia just never submitted a kill?

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Also I think everyone should nominate me for a scummy for replacing into this game and figuring out right away that Boonskies was scum.

/patsselfonback(also, toungue in cheek )