Mini 1632 - Zar's Holiday Bash - Mardi Gras Showdown - Over!

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hello, my little minions

let's ace this game and send scum packing

vote: TheDudeAbides

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mysterious

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reinoe why did you tell him his scumplay traits before he had a chance to perform them?

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I don't see where that happened, explain?

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germy

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vote: madonna

sure

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sock it to him geraintm

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Yes, TDA's master scumplan is to call everyone town so then he has LOADS of mislynches which are feasible.

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To be honest silverspawn hasn't done anything to warrant a mafia read or a town read yet. I don't think silverspawn is adjusted to this sites meta yet so we get quirky post like 53 that's not alignment indicative through. Smells of newbie.

Something also feels off about tso this game. I never seen him act like the supporting man cheering on people from the sidelines. I know his not big on cases through so. I might keep watch on him maybe I can find a hidden tell on him.

I also like vincero. He does have a decent point on TDA and vote to match it. Probs town.

Going to risk doing this I'm making a town block.
Only one member so far reinoe

The reason I say this so far is I never ever had scum in my town blocks before Also no one ever follows them even through they never have been wrong -_-.

I can show you the biggest fucking case ever if you want.

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Here and here. Same game, same case.

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kuribo has returned

bow down, mortals

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kuribo, I would never harm you.

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And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

What's this from? It sounds great.

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Damn, I was hoping it wasn't.

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Are you sure you've played with me? Presuming alt.

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any chance you'll tell us who of?

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kuribo, back down. you're wrong here. tso's honor.

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Vote: Garmr

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seriously that is the most opportunistic jump I have ever seen

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Well done, you can use the quote function!

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I am saying you have no idea if this is or isn't waynegg.

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Furthermore, sheeping kuribo's ass would not be acceptable even if this was waynegg - policy lynches out of vindictive spite aren't part of my gameplan, sorry.

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damn caught again

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*puts hands up, shivers wildly*

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so you hate everything

useful

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I don't want to sound cruel or nasty here, but...

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I agree, it's fabricated. My problem is the bit where you call fabrication scum - I have not yet seen evidence to make me think town-Garmr is made of such sinewy moral fibre as to not do this instead of actually defending himself.

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Not to have to defend themselves. When you're a PR, it's quite irritating being pushed. You just want to tell your attacker, "Fuck off, I'm town."

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Your argument doesn't particularly present anything new. It doesn't have to be good play for him to be town.

One could equally say he wouldn't capitulate so easily as scum.

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Your argument doesn't particularly present anything new. It doesn't have to be good play for him to be town.

One could equally say he wouldn't capitulate so easily as scum.

this post is just bad.
VOTE: T S O

Damn, you randomly calling it bad with no extra reasoning is making me quiver in my boots.

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I don't like kuribo much this game either.

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in a scum way, natch.

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oh my god can we please knock off this dumb meta-grudge shit?

this isn't a grudge. T S O has gotten my alignment exactly backwards in every single game we've ever played together:

Thought I was scum in that NY game where I was part of Serene, I was town.
Thought I was scum in Anti-Hero Mafia, I was town
Thought I was town in... was it Aircraft Mafia? Death Note Mafia? I forget. But I wasn't town.


He can't read me for shit.

Right.

NY game - you

fakeclaimed Masons

- that was not my fault, it was bullshit shenanigans by you.
Antihero - I was wrong on you, yes, but I was also right on 2/3 of my scumteam guess. DGB and PK were backing you up for bullshit reasons and that also cemented my read.
DN - Yeah, wrong, I'll take this one.

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I have no idea if you think telling me I've been wrong before will somehow intimidate me into giving you a default town read. It won't.

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NY game - you fakeclaimed Masons - that was not my fault, it was bullshit shenanigans by you.

no. DGB was part of the hydra I was in and SHE fakeclaimed masons


as she said in the hydra QT: "I just claimed masons with dramonic. These words just oozed out of my keyboard."

Your slot was the thing that claimed Masons, your slot was the thing I misread.

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Also I'm good at reading tso and the little tossers mafia for sure.

um no you're not

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can you show meta where this has happened

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Anyway, I was right on Garmr - dear person who voted me the last page, read and weep.

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Why am I scum again?

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For the record, Garmr has never played with TSO-scum and won.

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Well, your vote is on me because you said you can read me, and I seem to have proved that wrong... can you explain why you're voting me again?

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decided to reference Death Note because kuribo beat me as scum there - when someone called him scum he used the exact tactic of "you cannot read me."

Maybe he does it as town too. I'd like for him to be town, but...

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Well, your vote is on me because you said you can read me, and I seem to have proved that wrong... can you explain why you're voting me again?

Actually my votes on myself and even if you don't get lynched today and I live I'll be hiding behind you tonight. Also you haven't had a scum game with me but ever since our first game I been able to town read you every time since then and this is drastically different. Your totally different your scum.

Well, go ahead.

I would tell you that different towngame doesn't mean scum... but you know that, you still aren't going to change.

Have fun tonight.

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What is hiding behind me even going to do ...?

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What result do you expect to get which will prove this?

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And, yes, scum won't just shoot you or something, given you've advertised your action loudly.

Seriously, even if I was scum, I would be derisive of this play.

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How about no?

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Like, your plan is so stupidly breakable it makes me laugh.

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"While Hiding, the Hider itself is considered an ineligible target for actions - all actions that target the Hider specifically will fail. This applies even to otherwise "piercing" abilities like Strongman kills."

Did not know this.

Cool, Garmr, do what you want.

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Actually, it's a huge HUGE waste, but dissuading you is a waste of time.

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I read some insults of kuribos recently and I am stealing them for my use; the man has talent, give him that.

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Why is TSO scum, serra?

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Garmr do you think everyone is scum?

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Scumreads: Madonna, serra, kuribo.

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you're an idiot, TSO

I love you.

I'm a VT this game, TSO, so fuck off with your stupid shit

Well, at least you've learned PR claims won't make me back off.

oh, i gotta warn you, me and my girl broke up literally about 20 minutes ago so I'm in a fighting mood
bring it

That makes me sad, but it won't lessen my conviction.

TSO, don't pussy out, why you reading me scum?

Your back-off from the Garmr wagon was really bad. You aren't sorting and you don't intend to sort half the game - what exactly is your read on Madonna, for instance? No-one knows. You're getting serra in your townreads via a magical tell you haven't explained and, again, you don't intend to. You're walking around me on eggshells, which you did as scum before but not as town. You're talking loud but your actions aren't matching up - "I'd almost lynch TSO to spite him" becomes "I'd lynch TSO" and one of the only people in this game who are going to call you out/scumread you whatsoever are gone. Then you can just talk shit to the newbs while they shit themselves and mislynch each other.

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That wasn't even me ISO'ing you, that was straight off the top of my head.

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It's almost as if you think shit slinging and big words are a defence.

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lol

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Is anyone here townreading kuribo?

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Thanks for that, Exakt, but my question remains the same. Can you give your read on kuribo while you're here? Thanks.

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you didn't learn your fucking lesson in anti-hero


WELL GUESS WHAT FUCKER


you done it AGAIN, i'm bout sick of your snippy little "oh tee hee kuribo is scum"


PUT YOUR FUCKING VOTE WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS BITCH

No problem.

Vote: kuribo

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If you think your insults are going to cow anyone in this game, you should probably think again.

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Yes, yes, I get it - either you insult me, or you insult my play. Very good. Original.

Again, it's completely ran its course - but oh well.

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Oh well.

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I mean, and this is realtalk, the only thing which could have caused you rage here was me scumreading you. I stayed clear of insults, stayed clear of pretty much everything.

The problem isn't me, the problem is you.

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Oh my god, please shut the fuck up, no-one cares. jesus.

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AC, why are you townreading kuribo's slot? Blustering isn't a towntell.

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let's go with no

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Is anyone townreading Madonna either?

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TDA, don't you think that her "pro-town talk" is all empty rhetoric with no action?

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But my posts are quite often short - 1 or 2 lines. It's a playstyle feature - it has nothing to do with my alignment.

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I'm not sure what you want me to explain here. T S O's interpretations of kuribo's actions were just bullshit, plain and simple.

I'm fairly sure this was a request for you to explain -how- what I said was "just bullshit, plain and simple."

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I really intended to keep my Wiki updated during Christmas and I haven't at all. Damn.

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I'm not sure what you want me to explain here. T S O's interpretations of kuribo's actions were just bullshit, plain and simple.

I'm fairly sure this was a request for you to explain -how- what I said was "just bullshit, plain and simple."

kuribo's ragequit speaks for itself.

It really doesn't - can you actually explain it instead of justifying it with behaviour?

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good for you

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I like Garmr this game suddenly.

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Willing to lynch {vincero, Madonna} happily today.

I'm not exactly townreading reinoe because he can play like this as scum, but at the same time, it's Christmas. Like fuck I'm sorting people this side of the New Year.

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Well, it's nice to see acfan's remarkable progression on me.

ACF: "TSO's misrepping kuribo."
Me: "Not really at all - can you show this?"
ACF: "I can."
Me: "You should probably try doing it so."
ACF: *does nothing further*
ACF: "Vote: TSO"

...really? This is like a joke. It's a little sad if you're town, but it is pretty funny.

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He's really not, vincero.

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I'm actually going to see what the case on serra is because his reactions are what I could do as scum, but also definitely what I could do as town.

I should have done this earlier, but festivities.

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why is everyone in this game so fucking scummy

yes, silverspawn, that means you

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I am now considering my scumreads on both vincero and serra to be false.

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How many people have you said you're hiding behind at this stage?

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elle has no reason, geraint doesn't either, while acfan is voting me re: that borked kuribo case.

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*incentive

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My problem with Garmr is that

-We leave him alive today
-He comes back tomorrow with a "clean"
-To prove it's a legit clean, we lynch him
-Scum NK the conftown player

We get nothing except a wasted d2 lynch.

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Scum aren't going to NK him because of the massive paranoia around him -if- he's town.

Fuck it, Garmr, you shouldn't have claimed.

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I think droog's scum.

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I fucking hate this game

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Like one of the main reasons for serra being townread by me right now is his declaration of also hating this game.

I'm townreading him for something that's

not even alignment indicative

because I just want someone else in the game who also hates it.

Look at what you've done to me.

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lmao

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Even droog's profile image sets out his stall.

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Vote: acfan

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I also want to lynch Madonna.

geraint why the fuck did you hammer

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unvote
vote: geraintm

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lol

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can we just quicklynch geraint

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no, it's geraint.

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I also want to lynch Madonna.

geraint why the fuck did you hammer

Check timings of the posts, as I said end of y ester day I didnt realise I was hammering.

Nope, you get a notification if there have been posts since you started replying.

I also want to lynch Madonna.

geraint why the fuck did you hammer

VOTE: Vincero

-This is L-1-

Silverspawn, to me, looks like he's just frustrated newtown. I didn't really like him voting 5 times in RVS and then saying "Not voting is scummy", because that shows he was being self conscious, but the more I look at it, that could very easily come from a new town player who's playing by the book, aka reading off of "Good Town Play" in the Wiki. The replace looks more frustrated town to me, than anything.

Vincero's early/catchup posts were alright. However, his more recent posts have been contradictory. He's still pushing Garmr which I don't get; Do you not understand that keeping him until tomorrow is better whether he's town OR scum? (That goes for anyone on his wagon by the way). The thing about his push on Garmr is that he keeps flip flopping it: sometimes it's a policy lynch, other times he's scum. The self vote is what does it for me, though, I think. It comes across as scum, trying to look like town that's too fed up to even continue.

Side note: Anyone who self votes should just be modkilled. I hate that so much.

Yeah, I am happy with voting

VOTE: vincero

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Case in point, I cp/d those posts on 2 different pages. When I went to preview, out of interest, I was notified of my previous post.

geraint would have known that too.

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And you know what? If, if we're unlucky, if the website somehow fucked up - he deserves to die anyway. I'm sick of condoning shit play.

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VOTE: Vincero

-This is L-1-

Silverspawn, to me, looks like he's just frustrated newtown. I didn't really like him voting 5 times in RVS and then saying "Not voting is scummy", because that shows he was being self conscious, but the more I look at it, that could very easily come from a new town player who's playing by the book, aka reading off of "Good Town Play" in the Wiki. The replace looks more frustrated town to me, than anything.

Vincero's early/catchup posts were alright. However, his more recent posts have been contradictory. He's still pushing Garmr which I don't get; Do you not understand that keeping him until tomorrow is better whether he's town OR scum? (That goes for anyone on his wagon by the way). The thing about his push on Garmr is that he keeps flip flopping it: sometimes it's a policy lynch, other times he's scum. The self vote is what does it for me, though, I think. It comes across as scum, trying to look like town that's too fed up to even continue.

Side note: Anyone who self votes should just be modkilled. I hate that so much.

9:22 p.m.

Yeah, I am happy with voting

VOTE: vincero

9:23 p.m.

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If geraintm's excuse had been not reading I would just abuse him rather than lynch him but his "didn't realise" is just lies.

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the really quick wagon also makes me feel uncomfortable but you know what he'll die anyway

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if he's town I definitely did

anyway get with the quicklynch

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I actually agree with droog here, but at the same time, do not care

claim and hammer

or just hammer

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what else would you claim

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don't get me wrong, you're a cool guy, but you need to hang for that

it's just how it is

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the problem is what you are saying literally doesn't add up

either the server magically fucked up or you're lying

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no

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no.

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yeah this garmr counterwagon is scum

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if geraint is town he'd have been fucking drove into the ground by now

there's sudden quick resistance. that means scum.

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you mean which of you, elle and acfan is scum

and probably elle

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Have you considered that maybe he's just an idiot?

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My main problem with this game was the combination of phenomenally bad play by Garmr and geraint to leave us utterly fucked.

I wanted to maybe talk to TDA today, but scum shot him.

I'd love to hang acfan so badly but I don't have time.

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I can't remember a single Iknal post, reinoe is fluttering around and I have no read on him at all...

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No, elle, but you're claiming this is scum bluffing, when it could just be shit town

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I really want geraintm to die.

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droog, I'm going to bed, tell the media I'll make my statement tomorrow.

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iknal vote is shit

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I want a geraint lynch, but failing that, I'd like a TSO lynch.

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I don't agree with anything being posted, we're letting a scumclaim slink away because ???, we're all voting shitty vanity wagons, etc. etc. There's no fucking cohesion.

And I should really be the one bringing it, but at this stage, I just don't care.

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it's the scum counterwagon to geraint

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serra's probably scum, actually.

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I'm in the uniformed minority.

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eyeroll

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you've done everything you can to -not- get geraint lynched

"oh here's a random vote on iknal, no explanation"
"oh I'll drop iknal for reinoe, why am I dropping iknal? no explanation."

etcetera. either your play here is piss or you're scum. it's the latter.

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There's no way your read on gera is certain enough to base your reading of the entire game on.

But fine, let's PL Gera today, and then you tomorrow if he flips town?

Can you explain the magical scenario where geraint isn't scum?

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I recently played Completely Ridiculous Mafia where I lost in LyLo to a quickhammer on the scumteam and I KNOW that the "someone's posted look at this" works because I reloaded that page for 3 mins non-stop, and it caught the vote - I submitted my already typed unvote, and the winning hammer came up on my screen.

It works. He's lying. He's scum.

But yeah, him then me. that's cool.

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yes

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that sounds pretty damn great to me

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Madonna, can you vote geraint or give a reason for not doing so? I quite honestly couldn't give a fuck about anything non-related to those

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let's go team

scum bussing geraint at this stage would be a good idea

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Well, that was hammer.

Never lie again, geraint.

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This was your crime correspondent,, reporting that the first of many scumfucks has been hung.

TSO, Fox News, Zar City

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WHY WON'T I DIE

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vote: acfan

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Thor - no-one will town in this game at all, and we had an obvtown lynch d1 courtesy of a fucking derphammer.

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We have a claimed cop with two clears. Isn't that "good" for town? Why are you acting like it's the Apocalypse in here?

Can you quote this because I have not read this game at all

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mason

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hello, my little minions

let's ace this game and send scum packing

vote: TheDudeAbides

I'm just gonna assume you're waynegg



Which means sheeping you would be stupid

Sorry Wayne

Ok, Kuribo is refusing to scum hunt and he's deciding to ad hom me rather than check what I'm saying, so he's probably scum too.

kuribo, back down. you're wrong here. tso's honor.

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m + ace in the first, my honor in the second

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This could genuinely be my worst towngame of all time.

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you

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acfan must die

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ayyyyyyy let's go

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Madonna, darling, I's got a noose for you.

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You too, kuribo.

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vote acfan.

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realtalk: his jump on geraint was fucking awful and the only reason I didn't go for him there and then was my utter conviction in geraint-scum.

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thor why aren't you voting acfan

anything relating to serra is a joke answer - give me a reason or I'm just going to decide he's a scum cw and ignore you for the rest of the day.

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link game pls

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thanks for being confscum elle

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screw it is like my scumphrase when I hammer town.

apologies, titus - I wasn't reading the game much and didn't get to unvote.

lynch elle tomorrow ty

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oh sweet jesus im still alive

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maybe im scum

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oh hello

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do scum vengefuls exist

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sweet jesus thank you scum

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can someone explain how geraint was town to me, because I never fully got that