Mini 1660 - TTH's Mini Normal (Game Over)

[Skold]

VOTE: scissorhandle
Scissors cut. Cutting causes bleeding. Bleeding kills. Scissor is scum confirmed.

[Skold]

How do you like my new avatar. *trollface*

[Skold]

Well, the soccer thing is annoying and one of them is scum.

Clarification, ONE of them is scum. At most. This isn't the kind of scum discussion I'd expect to spill over into the thread. The only possible exception would be BBT/Unlynchable, because they're both mostly reactionary. I still don't think that's likely.

You seem to be under the impression that RVS banta is serious business. I see no reason for town to be this highstrung.
VOTE: Jingle

[Skold]

I'm scum? Please do go on. I'm not under the impression that no knowledge can be gleaned. But I'm not looking at the voters instead I look towards the silly people like you that slip up when something unnerving hits them.
I really don't get the purists that think that a little bit of banta in RVS is scummy. Can I not have fun? I think that you're just upset because your username is only relevant one month a year .

holy fuck that is one hell of a pedit, jesus you guys latch on: If I am scummy in your eyes, VOTE ME. Not voting based on your conclusions is scummy.
Other than that, not much of relevance has been posted.

[Skold]

Mind explaining that vote? Your name's come up a couple times, I'd like your input.

[Skold]

Is an early random lynch common practice in mini normals? That actually sounds hilarious. I can't believe I haven't signed up to one of these before.

[Skold]

Skold is scum because there is more scum motivation than town motivation in his posts. I'll elaborate later.

Really man? Going to start a shitstorm on me and then refuse to participate other than declaring me scum, based on some motivation that you don't comment on. Scum. You bitch about me not commenting, but I don't have much to comment on. I'm not going to go after the people voting for me because they're just applying pressure.

''why are you worried about that at L-4''- see the problem with this is, I'm not worried. I actually am laughing my arse of at this whole situation. In any case, I mentioned it because Unlynchable asked for a page 2-3 lynch on me.

''At least five pages. Go.''
Piss off without authoritative bollocks. You want content? Create content. Don't waste time wiping your ass, saying you'll elaborate later.
I'll be back to this thread every hour or so.
pedit: Yet another drone comes to add firewood to the innocent sacrifice. Any of you guys going to provide reasons? I guess that would reduce the pressure of these votes, since the idea is to get me to believe that it's so obvious that I should know what you are voting me for.

[Skold]

Prior to this? A game and a halfish.

[Skold]

Umm. Are you trying to buddy me? That's kinda cute. Also it's kinda scummy. But also adorable. I'd find scum by looking at player's posts and deciding based on that via observing certain actions or reads or inconsistencies.

[Skold]

Forgot to answer the last. Yes.

[Skold]

Why? Because he's refusing to defend his position, declaring me scum without giving any reasoning, lumping you in with me without giving a reason other than what seems to be ''he's scum because he disagrees''. He is overall scum.

@Unlynchable even if I was confirmed scum, why not take the 17 other days to go around asking questions and getting reads? Wouldn't make sense not to.

I'm starting to scumread pisskop. He's sorta trying to buddy me, while also voting for me only AFTER Jingle called him out. TBH I feel more confident in pisskop being scum than Jingle. VOTE: Pisskop

[Skold]

I'm going to bed soon, but I'll answer the question above real quick. I've dabbled a bit in Town of Salem as my only prior experience with mafia. It's kind of meh compared to this. G'night
pedit: He's saying we're partnered. I think. Maybe.
@Am I right in saying you think that Collatz, Pisskop and I are partnered as scum?

[Skold]

piss.

i must have miscounted.

unvote

I' not sure you can retract the vote once the HAMMER vote has been issued. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Skold]

VOTE: Jingle
You're going to need to stop declaring your reads without explaining them. D1 you just declared me scum with little to no explanation. Now you say that the ISO's of the victims point to me being scum. Explain yourself.

[Skold]

Do votes carry over from D1? I always thought you had to restate them.
@TTH

[Skold]

VOTE: Skold

VOTE: BBT

You voted for Skold at the beginning of this day and now you're voting for BBT. It's almost as if you completely ignored my post where I mentioned you should post reasons with your votes.

If you find this problematic, why aren't you voting for him?

[Skold]

Unvote:

VOTE: Unlynchable
Baaa. OMGUS. Whatever you want to manipulate this to be. He's voted without explaining shit far too many times and I think he's trust trying to confuse the fuck out of us. Besides my current vote is on someone for not explaining shit, and this person is doing it worse. Why go after certain areas of Europe for being socialist if the commies are right next to you just over Alaska. Yayy late night shitty analogies.

[Skold]

Baaa. OMGUS. Whatever you want to manipulate this to be. He's voted without explaining shit far too many times and I think he's trust trying to confuse the fuck out of us. Besides my current vote is on someone for not explaining shit, and this person is doing it worse. Why go after certain areas of Europe for being socialist if the commies are right next to you just over Alaska. Yayy late night shitty analogies.

Seriously, what do I still need to explain, with the exception of my thoughts on BBT?

Your first vote on me, why the ISO's of the NK are somehow linked to me and BBT, if you still consider me to be scum, and if so why aren't you voting for me, and I also think at this point you should explain why you didn't explain previously. Do you want a graph of minor bullshit you've avoided explaining?

[Skold]

I'm getting cold feet about lynching Unlynchable.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Scissorhandle

I'm going to need more than ''I'm getting cold feet'' from you to explain the unvote. Is unlynchable town? WHY am I town? Why is scissor scum? This isn't enough BBT

FOS

.

[Skold]

''Can you state your reasons for either being scum.''

A VERY good question. And one that should instead be directed at you - WHY IS SCISSOR SCUM? I've actually seen Wrong Songs reasons, haven't seen yours.

[Skold]

Am I currently voting? I didn't think I was. And I'm definitely not pushing you. I want answers. So lets try this again. Why. Is. Scissor handle. Scum?

[Skold]

I'm sorry I seem to be missing something. I don't have a clue what wagon analysis means.

[Skold]

yeah sorry, not trying to lurk. had very little time this past week or so and i haven't given this much (any) attention. apologies.

don't like unlynchable, i don't really see how contributing zero is in any way a benefit to town - it's one of those situations where if he's scum great, but then you're also removing an impediment to town regardless of his alignment.

also don't understand why people are asking him questions when he's clearly not answering them.

VOTE: vote: unlynchable

It's looking at the wagon from D1 and finding out who is scum on that wagon.

that's not what you're doing. you're deciding who you think is town and then everyone else = scum.
so you're really townhunting. hrm.

Unlynchable is a fine ass PL, Scissorhandle is more likely to be scum IMO.

why?
wagon analysis is bullshit when we're talking a d1 wagon.

Why didn't you declare L-1? Because simply put, you want a lynch more than you want to scum hunt. In the same way you don;t want us to ask Unlynchable any questions and in the same way when you came back all you did was hop onto the biggest wagon.

Unvote:

VOTE: Scissorhandle

[Skold]

Unvote:

That wasn't L-1 Skold you dipshit. BRB need coffee.

[Skold]

VOTE: Unlynchable
All previous reasons voting him still apply. The refusal to answer question, tunneling to the point of stupidity, holding town back, ect ect. Sorry scissor that was really fucking stupid.

[Skold]

*Sighs heavily*. L-1, declare intent to hammer, ignore what BBT just said and wait for claim please.

[Skold]

Whuh? No you didn't. 6 to lynch Arch + Me + Collatz + Scissor + BBT = 5

[Skold]

Though I find it odd that you wouldn't wait for a claim. I guess that even if he is a PR, he obstructs reads too much for it to matter, but still.

[Skold]

@Jingle as one of the very few active players left, minding putting aside your goals for world domination so that you can hammer your scumbuddy?
pedit: Does that mean I'm scum to you?

[Skold]

@Wrong Song
@FormerFish
@Jingle
You are the most recently active, inactive players that aren't on this wagon. Get a claim, and get this done with.

[Skold]

Umm, Archmage, lynch has been achieved. We're in twilight.

[Skold]

Welcome Slandaar, tell us when you catch up.
I'd like reads on these people from you:
Archmage
Jingle
Skold (myself)
Scissorhandle
Not sure if we should do night action speculation. I've been told it's anti-town, but maybe that's only in newbie games. But I'll just remind us that two town died last night and one died this night.

[Skold]

Jingle because I've had a long term scum read on him and want your input. Archmage because he led last day's lynch (not trying to absolve my own responsibility here but still), myself because I'm me and like to know what other think of me and Scissor because he was considered as the other lynch for last day.

[Skold]

You guys have been slotted 3 hours today. That starts in roughly 4 hours.

Who is ''you guys''. Slotted 3 hours for what? Whuahasdgsdhsdgh?

[Skold]

You guys is the game? Oh okay. Right. So in 3 hours, we have 3 hours to read and evaluate the game. WHADFDSHPDSFNHSDFHNSDFHNHF?

[Skold]

Are you being intentionally confusing?

[Skold]

I disagree with a massclaim. If there is a cop with a positive scum result they should come forward but unless there is some other definitive scum (eg. Lookout sees x go into BBT's house, BBT dies) then nobody comes forward, then I think other town PRs should stay secret. But the biggest reason for me voting for Slaandar is that he wanted to go last. If he was town he'd gain nothing from this, but if he was scum he'd gain the opportunity to claim a town PR that hadn't already been claimed. He also said that he won't be posting because he gotta think. This guy think he some chess master or something?
VOTE: Slaandar

Also lol at Archmage FOSing the dead guy. xD On serious note though, while I dislike what former fish did, Unlynchable had plenty chance to claim and didn't. There is only so much you can fuck with town before you have to be hammered. And Slaandar is much worse. This should be followed up, but it seems to me that Slaandar is the prime lynch suspect.

[Skold]

@Jingle this is probably the definition of a loaded question, but what do you think of him declaring he claims last.

[Skold]

Mind re-explaining the scissor scumread. I think you've voted for scissor before but a retelling would be nice.

[Skold]

Considering that there is a fairly large chance this is mylo I want EVERYONE'S opinion on a No Lynch.

Scum gain more than town by going last. You claiming to be a PR doesn't really convince me considering the fact that you asked to go last, you could claim to be any PR. Plus a townblock of 2-3 PRs isn't really good enough to justify outing a cop without scum results (whose doctor is dead) or a vigilante.

Reads for the massive douche:
Jingle: Scummy but probably town. Early refusal to explain himself is easily ignored. Not much to be found here.
Slaandar:

SCUM

. Arbitrarily decided he goes last, as if he can be trusted. Demands massclaim without providing his own. So scum it hurts. Is trying to isolate the real PR's, NK them, and go under a fake PR that he picks out last.
FormerFish: Null leaning very slightly scum. He did a stupid thing last day and hasn't spoken much, but I don't see much else.
Collatz: I get the feeling that he's town but the evidence only indicates null.
Archmage: Town. I doubt there is much else to say. He's been productive, and useful.

This is all I got. Now give me my reads.

pedit: Why should it be YOU? I see no reason to massclaim until we've decided that we're not No Lynching.
pedit: @Archmage Why would we claim THEN No Lynch. Seems that we'd just lose some power roles over night. We should No Lynch, then claim if anything.

[Skold]

It should be randomish. One person claims, they point to the next. Scum can't be sure when they're claiming so it forces them to get their story straight. And if scum are forced into making a story on the fly, they'll probably pick a bad one.

Assuming we even have a vig is dangerous. It makes me think of you as a potential SK. SK instead of maf because in my mind SK wants to be viewed as a VIG more than anything else. I'll wait on your claim for that one. Though your point about it taking longer to lynch if you were mafia since there would be one less scum vote on the table makes me thing you're just a Gung-Ho townie. I'll remove my vote in a sec this is being done in quick reply.

[Skold]

unvote:

[Skold]

I'm happy to claim second, but I demand that the person initiating a massclaim be the first to do so for a couple reasons.
1. On principle of leading by example.
2. It stops anyone starting the massclaim from using the information to lie on their claim.

[Skold]

It's impossible for you to be SK/VIG because your slot was inactive N1 when there were two kills. And it's unlikely for you to be maf as if maf were missing a player D1&2 would've been a lot slower. For this alone I'll make a leap of faith and trust you. Don't fuck this up for me.

I'm a Vanilla Townie. I'd like a Jingle claim next.

[Skold]

@Slaandar Jingle and me have had a back and forth for a while now and while I did consider him scum, I think of him as a townie who just took a while to get around to answering questions. That being said, considering this is mylo, this can't be swept under the rug. Your thoughts on this?

Collatz why did you claim out of turn? Who is the one you want to claim?

@Jingle why is archmage your next bet for the scummiest person who needs to claim?

[Skold]

Mackerel boy, get Slaandar to claim once you're done.

[Skold]

If former were to claim there'd be 3 left. 2 of which will take awhile since they belong to people who don't post as much, so presumably won't come back to claim for at least another 24ish hours. Assuming we don't want NO thread activity till then, claim after former.

[Skold]

Why wait to be 'popcorned' to if you don't care who claims last? Why not just claim?

Because popcorning is fun. Seriously this is my first time trying it, and it was WAY more fun than ''just claim in your next post.'' Well that's my reason at least.

[Skold]

VOTE: WrongSong
Dammit people I need a pronoun to refer to you by I'll go with ''it'' for this post. Correct me on that if you'd rather I use another.

A case? Disgusting things:

In all the 13 posts I see little town in wrongsong. I was convinced by the self-meta (where it said that throwing out votes is a town-tell) in its last post to do an ISO. Working from 1 forwards, I'll probably go through all the posts. Read the ISO it's not long.

1: Actually fairly decent. Could use more detail on the Ponystar vote but it makes some sense. Though I don't understand the townread on me. I don't no why newscum wouldn't be ballsy nor is ''it's ballsy'' a good reason to excuse things you consider scummy.

2. Blank votes with blank sheeps. Also what changed with Ponystar? Also in what sense was pisskop lurking. This post makes no sense.

3. Here you're just backlashing against minor pressure. I don't know what this is really.

4-7 This all makes sense. Not townish or scumish but it does make sense. Though it seems you're far too focused with defending yourself with little effort in scumhunting.

8. The vote on scissor makes sense but game knowledge on how the forum works doesn't make sense as a town read.

9 + 10 aren't really important.

11.

[Skold]

OMFG. So done with this. New keyboard is screwing with me.
11. Was really scummy for MYLO. Doesn't make sense to just want someone dead on gut.
12. Makes sense considering Scissor is pretty much conf. town.
13. Throwing out votes in itself isn't bad but I dislike the self-meta. The town reads make a decent amount of sense.
Low post count is excused. Real life takes priority.

I could be feeling WrongSong/Fishie. I don't know where the third is.

[Skold]

Skold - Leaning scum. His OMGUS vote on me felt off.

Well ofc it felt off to you. You're the one it's directed at.
@Jingle you've been eluding to a case you have on me. Please deliver it soon.
@Slaandar the same

@WrongSong I get Formerfish being scum but why Collatz? Also why would jingle be your next bet for scum? You're play seems to me to be based around leaving safety nets. In a ''I'll lynch someone and when they flip town I can just say welp I was wrong I guess dumb me''.
I'd be willing to lynch either wrongsong or fish.

[Skold]

''PoE Skold, poe''. I'm sorry I can never remember wtf this means. I think I've asked this before, sorry. I had something for Slaandar's post on me but my internet went out. I'll see about rewriting it soon.

[Skold]

I'm just about to play a game of league of legends but I'll quickly reply to somethingin Slaandar's post that I remember stuck out.
Skold the lynch confirmer - Because I'm new and wanted to be sure how twilight works -__-. I'll take scumreads but not on my curiosity.

[Skold]

I'll take this in point by point. Yeah I'm done. All bullshit. Reeking of lazy scumhunting.

''Awful''
''Seems fake to me''
This isn't scum hunting. Even if it is nonsense how does that make me scum?

Taking shit like ''Jingle hammer your scumbuddy'' seriously when it's obviously a fucking joke.
You're starting from the conclusion that I am scum and can therefore only see scum. Like the Illuminati conspiracy theorists they look for triangles, they see triangles.

Not so sure if Slaandar is town anymore. The thing about longer days if scum is missing seems weak, he's only soft claimed and the only thing keeping him town in my books is that 10/3 Doc/Vig seems kinda shorthanding town.

On the only actual ''evidence'' is the votecounts and I'm actually fucking confused at this. Slaandar I don't know what experiences you have with town, but town aren't always right. In fact town are most of the time WRONG. If they weren't then scum wouldn't have a chance of winning.

[Skold]

My case on Wrong Song was retarded. I wasn't drunk or high, I'm just a damn retard.

Unvote:

[Skold]

Lol. 5 days and no votes. Though I expect that'll change in the case of me in about 2 days.

[Skold]

There's a Collatz case? Fuck I don't pay attention. I'll do that tomorrow.

[Skold]

Am I seriously about to be lynched over vote counts, some retarded ''confirmer of lynches'' trait and ''awful'' + '' seems fake''? Holy shit I need to go back to newbie games, they use more than a gut read to lynch in mylo. Fucks sakes. I've already attacked this stupid argument, if you're lynching me from it then do it soon.
Slaandar is town
Scissor is town
Everyone else is null. There has been too much stupid in this game for me to tell the difference between stupid and scum anymore.

[Skold]

@Skold - I have nothing wrong with your avatar. Rugby is awesome. Anyway, I'm gonna change my avatar back before I get lynched for it - you never know what these crazy football types are going to do

I find this to be scum->scum talk. If you look, the 'football types' are all flipped townies which adds to this theory nicely.

This is kinda dumb. Seriously wtf?

I don't like him changing avatar in case he is lynched it is too survivalist. <

He was very obviously joking

Why on earth would you want a Page 2-3 lynch? Even if Skold is scum (which I doubt. I'm leaning towards him just being an arse) how would an early lynch help town? The answer is: it wouldn't. It would just stop us from communincating and gathering information, putting us behind scum early on in the game. I'm just pointing this out to say my joke vote on you isn't really a joke vote anymore.

The defense on me is kinda weird but everything else makes sense. Why would we page 2-3 lynch? Hell our early page lynches haven't done so great.

This isn't a read. It's a defence of Skold with a what equates to VI defence. I don't find the read to be relevant.

There wouldn't be any point. If we push him to L-1 and he is scum one of his scum buddies may just vote him to get himl ynched and reduce our communication time. Right now it's better to just apply some pressure and see how he responds.

This is a little ridiculous. If one of his scum buddies does that... you have 2 scum caught. Clearly good. Nonsense WIFOM.

Agree here.

While I do believe that he is scummy there isn't enough information to put him at L-1 without people questioning your motives (I'm already doing so). Beyond that if we put him at L-1 and he gets lynched and he turns out to not be scum (I doubt this) you would most likely be called scum.

I don't really care if you get called scum but there is the possibility that I could get called scum for being the first to vote him, which, is, incase you couldn't tell, not something I want.

Ridiculous. Ridiculous. He doesn't want to be the first on wagon in case said person is lynched, flips town and then he is blamed. Guess what? Unlynchable was in fact town which explains why Collatz didn't want to lynch him.

This seems weak but logical. IDK why he'd be so concerned about people scumreading him

Fish not calling him out on this is also very terrible from Fishie.

Whilst you do that tone down your quest to lynch Pisskop as it's making me read you as scummy.

Counter Productive to tell people not to do things you find scummy.

Basically, I read Pisskop and you equally as scummy. Pisskop because of his behaviour recently and his thoughts on Skold and you because of your wanting to quick lynch him

and belief that he is 100% scum despite the lack of evidence to support that.

This is bad. Really bad.

And this isn't scum hunting. Seriously instead of just saying ''bad really bad'' give us your chess master walkthrough of why.

He thinks Pisskop is scum. He thinks Blue is scum for trying to lynch scum for a lack of evidence which Blue had just shown him and convinced him Pisskop is scum with...

Basically, I read Pisskop and you equally as scummy.

Pisskop because of his behaviour recently and his thoughts on Skold

The bolded is Blue's case on him. Literally Blue's argument is the bolded. Collatz finds Blue scummy for trying to lynch someone for reasoning he agrees with and accuses Blue of a lack of evidence.

Uh OK.

You say you should go last because you are a Town PR but we have no way of knowing that. The person who you replaced only posted once so they are a null read and since you have joined I've been getting scummy vibes from your 'I'm going last' thing. Meaning I'm getting a stronger scum read from you than I am town read. So why would I (and the rest off us) let you go last?

Thinking about it after Jingle and Skold have said they thought Slaandar is town I now realise he is probably town too. I took the 'I want to go last' and thought it was scummy when if he was scum he wouldn't say he'd go last as it's too obvious.

I'm a Vanilla Townie.

@Jingle - why do you want to lynch Skold?

Obviously this nonsense aswell.

Why do you want to lynch Skold??? (Buddies I expect will go into more on this later)

My conclusion on Collatz is obviously scum. I don't see much possibility of him being town honestly. After writing this I am very confident in a Collatz lynch it is nice to write down your thoughts to see how strong arguments actually are

Collatz lynch seems okay to me. Not sure on fish, I'll do an ISO on him tomorrow. Not sure if I should be voting, get back to me on that. G'night.

[Skold]

So him being useless is grounds for a lynch in potential MYLO? That is ridiculous.

[Skold]

I'm being lynched? Oh. Okay. When I flip town, shoot WrongSong bae.

[Skold]

welcome. given the state of things you're probably best sheeping me.

[Skold]

welcome. given the state of things you're probably best sheeping me.

Okay - what are your reads, I'll sheep them immediately!

I kinda meant sheeping me as in sheeping the wagon on me. (if you're joking I'm sorry but I'm tired and can't really tell sarcasm from not).

[Skold]

Wolf head is getting tired of this town's shit. Wolf head is getting tired of shitty cases being taken as fact.

[Skold]

Back after school. Sorry for giving up so easily, really shite about doing that.

[Skold]

You could argue that he brings up his conf town too much, but he is pretty much conf town. Unless you believe:
a) There is an unclaimed PR trying to be a VT
or
b) TTH set us up with three maf vs Doc + Vig

[Skold]

b) wasn't just sass, I would like an answer to that. Just to clarify.

[Skold]

Reads were asked of me a couple times:
Slaandar: Town. There is no reason for him not to be town
Thor: Town for the same reasons
Fish: Null-Town. I don't think I could include him in people I can trust but he's townish.
Jingle: I'm not going to push a gut read in potential MYLO but I feel off about Jingle. Null.
WrongSong: Not sure I understand the case. Feed it to me? Null till the case comes.
Archmage: Going to ISO this. Found the inconsistency you spotted earlier with differing reads on me in a short space of time.
Collatz/Replacement: I need more for a read. Possible scum.

[Skold]

My main problem with Fish's case is that, this could be mylo. I guess we could shoot you if he flips town, but you being wrong wouldn't make you scum. We're chancing a lot with that case.
@Fish Do you genuinely think he's scum? Not just being useless, or not just playing bad?
@Jingle That...isn't even close to a case. That's not even scum hunting. ''I wanna lynch RM because it's RM.'' Don't take shit from previous games into this one please.
I'll wait for a response before voting, Fish is town. Jingle potential scum.
How strong a scum tell are fake town slips? I'll go visit those posts in context for now.

[Skold]

My question was kind of simple. Hmm, I definitely need to see these so called fake town slips in context.

[Skold]

Looked into the posts he referenced and that plus how he's gone from accepting Fish's hammer to using it as a basis for a Fish vote along with how many silly non-tells he's presenting as tells, I'm set in stone on this read.

UNVOTE: :
VOTE: Archmage
Fish is town. Solidified by decent case.
@Fish if you think Archmage is scum, vote him. Secondary scum reads?

@Thor you seem to mistaking hypocrisy for inconsistency.
pedit: I meant a town slip that really isn't alignment indicative. I could be dropped by town. I guess you thought I meant the town slip is fake in that the slip is alignment indicative, but it was dropped by scum. MB.

[Skold]

'shoot me, don't lynch me' thing, which seems like the sort of thing a scum RBer would say

First of all, did I actually say ''shoot me, don't lynch me''? Second, why do you think there to be an RBer in a game with 3 PRs?

[Skold]

@Thor you might've realised this already but don't reveal your second shoot target. We want scum vig overlap.

[Skold]

Since we seem to be calling full scum teams, and it makes sense: Archmage, Madman, WrongSong in that order.

Oh dear. My opinions changed. Spooky.

It's more that your opinion changed with little to no progression. To change a no to a yes you need to go through maybe. It's not a strong scum-tell. It's hardly even worth mentioning, but over the mountain of scummy content you provide, it adds up.

I posted that because I hadn't seen your post when I made that.

STOP

. Stop right the fuck there. No. That's not close to a good excuse. ''I'm sorry officer I just didn't bother reading the speed limit signs''. Yeah....no.

No Occam's Razor demands we don't assume based on your word that we didn't see your post. It's a more radical assumption that you decided to not read the post than it is that you did.

Your next paragraph is just....fucking illogical. What can you expect Fish to do, Archmage? Unlynchable had already the chance to claim. He chose not to. That's on him and him alone.

Onto the next paragraph: The hammer wasn't bad and nor was the defense.

''Major General Mercy''. You can't honestly expect him to be merciful to someone who refuses to cooperate, refuses to claim, refuses to do shit. This case is bollocks, and you know it.

...are in fact asked nicely to please claim. Yes...

Fuck. No. Right, moving on:

...You're putting a lot of effort into saying you gave him a chance to claim...

Formerfish has not said he gave him a chance to claim. He has said he was given a chance to claim. After BBT tried to hammer he had every chance to claim in his next post. He chose not to. Don't distort the facts.

Hanlon's Razor DOES NOT APPLY HERE. If you know there is a given amount of malice (the scum team) then you attempt to distribute the malice. We'd be no lynching if we took anti-town actions as incompetence instead of scum and you know it.

...but I saw no reason to hide his results from the town. I still don't...

Here is one: He is secretly a cop without any results because his slot was afk. He wants scum to think he's got results on a different role to scare them.
Another: He has non-alignment indicative results eg. A tracker non-result. I could spend all night conjuring reasons, some good, some bad. All you need to know is that Slaandar is town and it's pretty much confirmed.

That's hypocrisy in one statement. You're calling me scum for not scum hunting right after you said that activity isn't a tell

You could be inactive (very few posts) but in your few posts, you are scum hunting. You could also not be scum hunting but also be very active.

You can't say me calling you scum for one thing is terrible when that one thing is more or less the only thing you've done

Except when the more or less only thing he's done isn't scummy, your fabricating a reason to vote.

False anger much?

Congratulations, a decent point.
@FormerFish what's up with this?

I'll concede that the ''gotcha in your own scum tell'' thing is a little forced, but it read like it was a joke gone bad.

That scum team >

Skold's also been very neutraller opinionated towards fish

Not after that post. But that little fact is inconvenient to the narrative you're trying to spin. So please, do continue.

Overall: This post uses philisophical and logical theories that have no application in mafia, distorts the facts or misinterprets them, and makes presumptuous leaps of faith with no solid connection. These are the death throws of a scum caught, and you guys are taking it as fact.

More on Hanlon's razor: While some of the incompetent has to be attributed to incompetence, it can't be used as a principle to dissolve scumreads. Almost every scum tell is more likely than not just incompetence. Does that mean we no lynch each day? So feck off. And while smaller things can easily be chalked up to incompetence, when something adds up, we can't just allow it to slip. My vote isn't changing, I'll be back at around deadline to see what happens.

In conclusion:
Your honour, this case is bollocks.

[Skold]

@Slaandar - behold, Skold, confirmer of lynches.

[Skold]

@Jingle unless you believe there to be unclaimed PR's, Thor is vig. There really isn't a point debating this.