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In post 15, TheReverend wrote:Sup. I've never self voted first post.
vote reverend
That'll give y'all something to talk about.
In post 17, TheReverend wrote:Toffee is a thing already?
Ok I'll read the first page instead of dicking about.
These two posts here read awkwardly. Like, he's trying too hard to be openly scummy and at the same time he's letting everyone know that he is doing it on purpose.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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33 - Reverend you accuse me here of wanting to avoid conflict. I'm going to let this pass because you haven't played with me before, but, if you truly believe this; do you think I'm likely to avoid conflict by hopping to the biggest wagons consistently?
69 - RC, why did you vote me here?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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80 - Why the vote Jake?
82 - I initially liked this post until I read it a little closer.
Note that you appear to have a problem with Reverendif his attack on me was serious.
85 - Now, Reverend tells you that his attack on mewas seriousand you completely side-step the issue. You make no comment of his attack on me at all when you clearly had a problem with it in 82 if he was serious. This makes no sense.
88 - However, I do agree with Dannflor that this post looks town on the surface, but when you actually read it, there isn't a whole lot of content. Just a lot of 'could be this, could be that.'Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 102, TheDudeAbides wrote:Or maybe it's dannflor
Why?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 113, TheReverend wrote:
I'm saying it struck me as weird that someone who was happy to wagon hop in RVS would not start a wagon on someone who had done something that you felt was worthy of your displeasure. That made me think you were trying to avoid conflict with me. I'm certainly not expecting you to continue to avoid conflict, whatever your alignment. I just found it odd that was your reaction to my self vote.
Is there any reason you think I would want to avoid conflict with you as opposed to everybody else in the thread?
In post 113, TheReverend wrote:
Why is my self vote scummy? Have you ever seen scum self vote first post? Do you see the town motivation in self voting first post?
It's the way you did it and what you posted afterwards. You're trying to be overtly scummy whilst explaining that you're being scummy. I see this most likely coming from scum.
No, there is no town motivation in self voting.
Also, if you don't think self voting is scummy, what made you think it would 'give people something to talk about'?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 118, TheReverend wrote:
You might not have played with me before, but you know me from the poker forum, and you surely know how tenacious I can be. You certainly know I'm a high content player.
I can't say I do know this. I certainly would prefer conflict with one person over potentially a whole game's worth of people.
Sure. Nothing scum can't fake though.
In post 118, TheReverend wrote:
Just because I don't think it's scummy, doesn't mean I'm not going to get anything from the reactions. Other people might think it's scummy, or better still, other people might say they think it's scummy while doing a bad job of convincing me of the sincerity of that position.
Right, so you knew self-voting would be considered scummy?
Is that why you had to make clear you knew it would be scummy before you did it?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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If it was an obvious reaction test, why would you expect it to work?
Here's the thing. You say you're reaction testing, yet in 17 you claim you'll 'stop dicking about'.
Was your self-vote a reaction test or were you messing around? It can't be both.
I'm not 'moaning' (strange word to use) at you for saying you were reaction baiting, I'm saying that it doesn't make sense and I'm explaining why.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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For reference;
Dicking about =/= reaction test.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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I can question why people vote somebody; even if it's the same person I'm voting.
You're probably scum with PB.
I'm not really big on pre-flip associatives though so I'll lynch PB first to confirm my theory. The fact you joined the only viable counter-wagon to PB at this moment with very weak reasoning only fuels my theory further.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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179 - Oh dear. I assure you you will not read me correctly based on meta. Especially after just one game.
187 - RC, Rune is your biggest scum read, you were voting me and now you're voting Dannflor. You seem to think you have found the entire scum team already. Why are you not voting your biggest scum read?
This attack on Dannflor is weak; based on semantics which is more commonly used by scum.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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214/215 - Remember these two posts RC when you see I'm town. Remember what I just told you at the end of the game we just finished as well.
You'll see I was right.
You think you can meta read me based on one game? There are players who use meta almost exclusively to read people and still cannot read me correctly.
You haven't noticed jack shit. You scum read my play-style and personality and not what is actually alignment indicative. The sooner you realise this, the better.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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241 - Havoc, why did you choose to leave some people out of your reads list?
Town read on Elyse feels premature.
I see your reasoning for one of Rune/RC being scum in 247 and that is weak sauce. How does the same not apply to Reverend and myself? Or Rune and Dannflor?
244 - PB, last time you posted you had Arceus and myself as scum. The next time you post with anything meaningful you're voting Havoc. What happened to your previous scum reads? Particularly Arceus as I don't believe they have posted anything significant since your last stated read.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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257 - Arceus, are you an alt?
Also, the end of this post feels scummy. Like, if I decide I'm not going to continue with my post, I delete it and post what I actually want to say (in his case, reasons for his reads on people). It feels like he left that there to show *effort*
In post 264, TheReverend wrote:
I don't see you being so keen to slap down my read on toffee if you're scum with him. It's much more likely you're WK'ing him in an effort to get him on your side, in particular when it comes to pushing me.
Except that you explicitly stated that we were scum together here;
In post 153, TheReverend wrote:
Yes I think rune and toffee could be scum together. Rune is trying to nudge me away from toffee. Why do you suppose that is? Why is rune concerned about my read on toffee? Why does rune feel I should "look elsewhere"? Why would town say that?
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277 - Another alt. This should be fun.
Is that you, Anti? Bulge, have you played with Anti much?
I think Palkia is town already based on posts from this page.
276 - This doesn't address the issue Reverend. The people have changed, but the issue remains the same.
As I quoted, you said you don't see Rune hard defending their scum buddy by 'slapping down' your scum read of me yet you explicitly used that reasoning to justify how we were both scum.
Try again?
286 - Arceus, what happened to that list of reads/reasoning that you said was forthcoming?
287 - How is Reverend mislynch bait?
Speaking of jumping on major wagons; this seems an opportunistic time to suddenly be scum reading Rune (with a weak case) and voting him.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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301 - Palkia, how does what PB posted make you unvote Arceus?
317 - Arceus, why did you vote for Rune and not PB?
323 - This is a good post. Rune is town and this wagon is bullshit. Will be taking a closer look when I've caught up.
PEdit - Who isn't playing any more Oversoul?
@Reverend, yeah, I could buy that, if you hadn'tonly justtried to defend your position further. I know which alignment is more likely to be inconsistent with their reads and it's not the one with a green PM.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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327 - I don't get this TR on Arceus from Rev at all.
You're also desperately trying to hold onto your scum read of Rune.
337 - Umm, I don't get this vote PB...
347 - RC, you're right, I'm a fucking fantastic player.
You voted me before any of this came up. So, your reasoning comesafterthe fact you voted me. You wanna try again?
FWIW, I would love to see you try and get me PL'ed. That would be funny.
PEdit - That's unfortunate for you Oversoul, looks like you rolled scum.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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353 - Axe, why did you add Havoc to your scum reads?
I see further down (371) you explained your town read of PB and it makes no sense to me at all.
I don't get how you can town read Arceus without reading his posting. What makes you think he is town?
355 - Palkia, can you explain Arceus town read please?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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388 - Havoc, your scum read on Rune is poor based on a weak case.
Can you explain your Arceus read? Kept giving me tingles every time I read it. Wording feels strange. Like, I feel if you really thought his case on Rune was good you would think it was coming from a town mindset, no? This would then lead to a town read on Arceus?
Can you quote some of Arceus' posts that are 'not so towny'?
This Havoc wagon built up very quickly. I can kind of see why but the speed of it is making me nervous.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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407 - Palkia, why have you changed back to voting Elyse?
You initially voted Havoc because Elyse had no wagon. Havoc now has a wagon, Elyse still has no wagon, and you have gone back to voting her.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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429 - Well, this is no surprise at all.
448 - I actually like the vote and reasoning. I was also thinking along similar lines re: Elyse but I don't like to give too much weight to pre-flip associatives.
Interested in you elaborating on your Rev town read as well as your leaning town on Axe (that was a solid early town read?)
An explanation of your scum lean on me would also be great.
PEdit - Anything in particular you dislike Axe?
Without talking about other people, can you explain your town read on PB and your read on Arceus please?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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