Mini 1668 - Mafia in Bremen - Game Over!

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #80 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:30 pm

vote: brian

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #86 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:09 pm

In post 84, TheReverend wrote:
In post 80, Jake from State Farm wrote:
vote: brian

He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

i'm sorry?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #92 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:46 pm

In post 89, Rune wrote:Jake has made some really insubstantial posts which I am not a fan of, but there isn't enough there for me to make any read but null, and I'd also like to say that I am very interested in the ongoing poke-battle.

Don't worry, its still early in the game. I'm pacing myself cause I don't think anyone is ready for me just yet.

That being said, I like my current vote, its a very serious one. I'll go ahead and just give everyone a heads up that this weekend will be busy for me but after that I shouldn't be so busy, wasn't expecting the game to start so soon.

Daughter has 2 soccer games, wife and I are walking a 5k on Saturday, Sunday I'm running my first half marathon, and tomorrow im chaperone on a school field trip.

I'll try to pop in every day though. Duces

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #107 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:27 pm

In post 94, Prolapsed Brain wrote:Monty Python reference. I am disappoint.

Never got into mp

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #109 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:28 pm

In post 105, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:80 - Why the vote Jake?

I.think he's scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #111 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:31 pm

In post 108, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Jake, why are you voting PB?

See above

Also patience padawan, I'm on a phone

P.edit - I didnt like his reaction to your "wagon" especially when it wasn't even a wagon yet. Felt like he was reaching too early and didn't feel genuine

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #112 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:32 pm

Plus his other posts haven't impressed me

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #163 (isolation #8) » Fri May 01, 2015 9:08 am

In post 156, NotAnAxehole wrote:Here is where I'm at currently with my reads, they will likely change. I don't have much time to explain, so you guys will have to try to make sense of why people are where I put them in the meantime.

Scum

TheDudeAbides

Neutral

Elyse
Dialga
Arceus
HaVoC
Jake from State Farm
Prolapsed Brain

Town

Dannflor
BlueBloodedToffee
TheReverend
Rune
RadiantCowbells

1. Smh @ giving a list of reads
2. How do you have so many town reads so early?
3. Why dude is scum? (If you made a case already just point me to it)

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #332 (isolation #9) » Sun May 03, 2015 1:35 pm

In post 326, Nikanor wrote:Jake from State Farm has been prodded.

no I wasn't as I have no PM from you.

I will try and catch up tomorrow

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #379 (isolation #10) » Mon May 04, 2015 2:44 pm

ok going to dedicate about an hour to start catching up. damn you all for talking so much lol

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #381 (isolation #11) » Mon May 04, 2015 3:10 pm

Spoiler:

Taking a break at the end of page 9. More tomorow. Night folks

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #391 (isolation #12) » Mon May 04, 2015 11:46 pm

In post 382, TheReverend wrote:Also, check out jake swinging for me when everyone else thinks I'm obvtown.

Who thinks you are obvtown and why do they think this?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #399 (isolation #13) » Tue May 05, 2015 3:04 am

In post 388, HaVoC wrote:Mafia
PB - has given very little is his recent posts to stop me from thinking he is mafia

From what i can tell you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing PB of so why is it scummy for him but it's ok for you?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #400 (isolation #14) » Tue May 05, 2015 3:05 am

In post 387, Rune wrote:
In post 386, Hostile Intent wrote:UNVOTE: Arceus
VOTE: HaVoC

Why?

I second this question

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #401 (isolation #15) » Tue May 05, 2015 3:09 am

Just looking over Brian's posts I still don't see anything that warrants me changing my vote. All his posts come off as fake and I even see what looks to be some buddying going on. I find it interesting that he votes rune for a scumslip (that I don't actually think was one) yet ignores a post by TheRevereant that looks more like a true scumslip.

I will finish my catching up later but to make sure I don't fall even more behind I will be checking in from my phone today like always and commenting about the current stuff.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #411 (isolation #16) » Tue May 05, 2015 5:57 am

In post 326, Nikanor wrote:Stop posting in annoying colours.

umm Palkia

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #412 (isolation #17) » Tue May 05, 2015 5:57 am

In post 405, Hostile Intent wrote:We just finished a game together.

and?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #418 (isolation #18) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:06 am

why because she voted Arceus or because she seems to be suspicous of you?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #420 (isolation #19) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:10 am

In post 229, Rune wrote:VOTE: UNVOTE

Why would you put PB at L-1 without mentioning it??? In your post where you are afraid scum are lurking and are on fence about PB, on D1, it really is worth mentioning. (Someone please correct me if it wasn't L-1)

VOTE: Dannflor

ok back to catching up. I don't really like this post, especially since it wasn't even accurate as the VC shows in the next post that he was at L-2

I know you actually saw the VC so how on earth could you say this when you know it isn't true?

In post 231, RadiantCowbells wrote:Puts an active player to L-1 without saying anything about it.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #421 (isolation #20) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:11 am

In post 236, Rune wrote:Sorry you'll have so much to get through on Monday - I look forward to seeing it.

if you were truly sorry you would stop posting

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #422 (isolation #21) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:13 am

In post 241, HaVoC wrote:
In post 236, Rune wrote:@ Arceus
@ Dialga
@ Havoc

What are your reads so far?

@ PB
I would be more willing to believe that you are
"generally regarded as scummy regardless of your actual alignment alignment"
if you were able to come across as scummy while contributing more than exclusively that fact. Until you do this, I think the pressure on you is justified as a possible D1 lynch candidate (behind Dan right now), despite Dan's seemingly terrible post to put you at L-1.

@Axe
@ TDA
@ Jake

Sorry you'll have so much to get through on Monday - I look forward to seeing it.

@Elyse
You don't seem to be too much more active in your other game right now, so I'm not overly worried, but if you would be able to replicate your post 164 and let us know what you think of the last few pages, that would be great.

I have been summoned! Just caught up on the flood of posts since I checked last a good while ago, and I feel yeah that I should give our my reads, as limited as they are right now.

Town

Reverend
Dannflor (although putting PB in L-1 without explanation I agree is bad, he should explain if he can)
Elyse (leaning only, when she does her catchup post I will be able to read her better hopefully)
Toffee

Mafia

Rune/RC (I feel like one of these two is scum, whoever is town, the other is mafia)
PB(duh)

Null

Jake From State Farm
Dude Abides

ask me for my reasoning on others if you want them
sorry for playing around with the colors, they are just too fun!

You were better off not posting anything, this is a half-assed reads list and the last time I saw one of those it came from scum. If you are going to post something I despise so much, you got to at least back it up with some reasons. So let's hear some.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #424 (isolation #22) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:16 am

In post 249, Prolapsed Brain wrote:I find that naked votes tend to ignite discussion. I like igniting discussion. I'll post my reason in due course.

finally you say something I like. People give me shit just about every game for naked voting. This doesn't help me determine your alignment though

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #426 (isolation #23) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:17 am

In post 250, Rune wrote:I unvoted PB as soon as you put him at L-1, so your unvote

ok nevermind my post to RC/Rune, didn't realize rune was voting PB at the time.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #427 (isolation #24) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:18 am

In post 425, Rune wrote:Jake...my vote was on Pb in that post and I unvoted, then voted dan, bringing pb off L-1. This is obvious.

yeah I just got that.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #433 (isolation #25) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:36 am

In post 432, Oversoul wrote:
In post 92, Jake from State Farm wrote:Daughter has 2 soccer games, wife and I are walking a 5k on Saturday, Sunday I'm running my first half marathon, and tomorrow im chaperone on a school field trip.

I'll try to pop in every day though. Duces

Why feel the need to give your weekend itinerary?

idk, cause in a couple of games recently I was accused of lurking when I actually wasn't so full disclosure is best imo

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #437 (isolation #26) » Tue May 05, 2015 6:56 am

In post 435, Oversoul wrote:Jake, in a vacuum, you agree that preemptively giving excuses for future behavior is scummy?

are you talking about people giving reasons why they won't be able to post? if yes then no i don't as that is what people should be doing. Posting excuses after the fact is scummy

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #443 (isolation #27) » Tue May 05, 2015 7:39 am

Jake to havoc? There's been no aggression from me, if I get aggressive you'll know it.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #447 (isolation #28) » Tue May 05, 2015 8:03 am

In post 445, Oversoul wrote:You seem a lot less curt and in your face from what I remember of your play.

That's my new playstyle I started earlier this year. I've been trying really hard not to do that anymore cause people avoided playing with me and would personally insult me because of my style.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #531 (isolation #29) » Sat May 09, 2015 12:26 am

vote: palkia

That hammer was terrible

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #536 (isolation #30) » Sat May 09, 2015 1:37 am

In post 532, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Palkia is town and you should feel bad for that vote Jake.

VOTE: Hostile Intent

Why is he town? Im not seeing it

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #542 (isolation #31) » Sat May 09, 2015 1:38 am

Hammer without a claim = bad

P.edit - you can say it 3 more times, I'm obviously not scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #543 (isolation #32) » Sat May 09, 2015 1:39 am

In post 541, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 536, Jake from State Farm wrote:
Why is he town? Im not seeing it

His late D1 play is pretty town.

His entrance was also pretty town.

Can you explain your problems with the hammer?

I don't agree, I thought his predecessor was much better but his posts IMO weren't that spectacular

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #547 (isolation #33) » Sat May 09, 2015 1:44 am

I mean its possible but at this stage of the game he's my top read. I'd also vote havoc but hammer without claim > lurking

P.edit - palkia replaced Dan right? Dan wasn't scummy

@bbt, I've seen scum hammer/troll like palkia was doing, so that's another reason I'm suspicious of him. He kinda reminds me of house when he's scum

P.edit again - the Lynch was right, but hammering without a claim isn't something town would normally do. Sxum would cause if its a PR flip, scum win

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #550 (isolation #34) » Sat May 09, 2015 1:51 am

Palkia didn't even have a good reason to vote Brian, he did it cause it was a counter to havoc.

Bbt, how about you tell me what's protown about hammering somebody without a claim and without a good reason and the trolli g the game after basically laughing at us saying FU.

I'd love to hear that

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #552 (isolation #35) » Sat May 09, 2015 1:56 am

Enlighten everyone, what is so scummy about that post? Since when is the truth scummy?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #574 (isolation #36) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:02 am

In post 563, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 547, Jake from State Farm wrote:I mean its possible but at this stage of the game he's my top read. I'd also vote havoc but hammer without claim > lurking

P.edit - palkia replaced Dan right?
Dan wasn't scummy

@bbt, I've seen scum hammer/troll like palkia was doing, so that's another reason I'm suspicious of him. He kinda reminds me of house when he's scum

P.edit again - the Lynch was right, but hammering without a claim isn't something town would normally do. Sxum would cause if its a PR flip, scum win

???

He wasn't, I even said as much. He pretty much had the same thoughts I had on a couple if players and I even said so in one of my posts.

You were calling Dan town yourself on multiple occasions so why do you now question his townyness?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #575 (isolation #37) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:04 am

In post 569, Rune wrote:
In post 565, Elyse wrote:Posting my thoughts in a bit

Spoiler alert:

VOTE: NotAnAxehole

Not the right direction for D2. I strongly believe Axe is town.

What do you make of him calling Dan town day 1, but now seems to have an issue with me calling Dan town which I did day 1 also?

That doesn't seem like town actions to me

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #580 (isolation #38) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:15 am

In post 576, NotAnAxehole wrote:So, let me get this straight

Slot A is occupied by Dan, Dan is town...
Slot A is vacated
Slot A is occupied by Palkia, Palkia is scum??

Yes, cause reads change based on what people say/do. I reevaluate my reads after flips, I realized Dan could have easily been a convincing scum player, palkia killed my read.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #585 (isolation #39) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:23 am

In post 582, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Jake

Why you ignore my question?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #588 (isolation #40) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:33 am

In post 550, Jake from State Farm wrote:Bbt, how about you tell me what's protown about hammering somebody without a claim and without a good reason and the trolli g the game after basically laughing at us saying FU.

This one

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #592 (isolation #41) » Sat May 09, 2015 5:40 am

In post 584, Rune wrote:IMO Havoc, Oversoul, and Palkia

Why palkia 3rd?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #604 (isolation #42) » Sat May 09, 2015 6:02 am

In post 595, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 588, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 550, Jake from State Farm wrote:Bbt, how about you tell me what's protown about hammering somebody without a claim and without a good reason and the trolli g the game after basically laughing at us saying FU.

This one

There's nothing pro town about hammering without a claim.

That was a really easy question to answer. Did I pass?

No you failed cause you are calling him town and I believe even said his late posts were town yet admit his actions are not.

This doesn't compute

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #607 (isolation #43) » Sat May 09, 2015 6:25 am

When I get to a computer I will

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #646 (isolation #44) » Sun May 10, 2015 4:15 am

In post 640, Rune wrote:@TDA post...........

@Havoc post...

You forgot palkia.

Speaking of palkia, why doesn't he have more votes?

And bbt, I still haven't gotten to a computer yet, weekends are crazy, tomorrow I'll respond

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #650 (isolation #45) » Sun May 10, 2015 4:22 am

In post 631, TheReverend wrote:
In post 615, Oversoul wrote:Policy lynches are bad.
By accepting a policy lynch, you're ok with scum coasting by for another day.

This assumes palkia has no chance of being scum.

Why would you make this assumption?

vote oversoul

I agree with this btw

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #656 (isolation #46) » Sun May 10, 2015 4:31 am

In post 652, NotAnAxehole wrote:Oversoul is right.

No he's not, not even close

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #658 (isolation #47) » Sun May 10, 2015 4:40 am

But nobody is policy lynching anyone

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #683 (isolation #48) » Sun May 10, 2015 11:24 am

In post 679, Rune wrote:Rev, you, and Jake are my strongest townreads right now, and I think we should collectively decide where to vote.

You know my opinion

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #713 (isolation #49) » Sun May 10, 2015 12:54 pm

In post 691, Rune wrote:
In post 683, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 679, Rune wrote:Rev, you, and Jake are my strongest townreads right now, and I think we should collectively decide where to vote.

You know my opinion

I think Palkia is a bad lynch for today for reasons I've already explained. I strongly suggest you reconsider, or at least provide your other scumreads as well as a justification for why we should lynch Palkia over the other obvious candidates.

I'll vote havoc and maybe Axe

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #754 (isolation #50) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:13 am

@ BBT - here is my stuff about palkia

Spoiler:

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #755 (isolation #51) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:15 am

In post 608, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK.

While you're there, what do you think about HI possibly being scum?

I could actually see HI being scum, kinda staying in the middle of the pack not really doing much to help the game or draw attention to himself. I don't like the L-1 vote without announcing it but he claims he didn't know that, can't tell if that is genuine or not.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #757 (isolation #52) » Mon May 11, 2015 3:32 am

no I am going to keep my vote on palkia

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #773 (isolation #53) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:14 am

The fact you completely write palkia off as town really bugs me bbt, the fact that your attempt to explain why he's town is a complete 180 to his actual contribution to the game is also weird. If you were a new, I'd say you were protecting him but you aren't. I just don't see how you town read someone so obviously scummy

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #777 (isolation #54) » Mon May 11, 2015 11:43 am

Why does palkia get a free ride? I'm suspicious of havoc also and have no problem switching my vote but I'm not comfortable with how he's being let off the hook for his scummy play. Until he posts or his replacement posts something to convince me my read is wrong. I see no reason to compromise this early. We still have plenty of time.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #787 (isolation #55) » Mon May 11, 2015 2:24 pm

In post 779, Oversoul wrote:
In post 777, Jake from State Farm wrote:Why does palkia get a free ride? I'm suspicious of havoc also and have no problem switching my vote but I'm not comfortable with how he's being let off the hook for his scummy play. Until he posts or his replacement posts something to convince me my read is wrong. I see no reason to compromise this early. We still have plenty of time.

You're not exactly pressuring Palkia with your vote. Even if you were applying pressure correctly, it wouldn't matter since Palkia is now MIA like Havoc.

If.he was here I.could.properly pressure him...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #792 (isolation #56) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:24 pm

why are you voting rune? why not wait until we at least get some replacements?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #795 (isolation #57) » Mon May 11, 2015 4:32 pm

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #808 (isolation #58) » Mon May 11, 2015 10:28 pm

In post 804, Oversoul wrote:I want everyone to say their two strongest townread before this day is over.

Yeah that's not going to haopen

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #809 (isolation #59) » Mon May 11, 2015 10:55 pm

We aren't lynching anyone else without a claim, and certainly as a "favor" to the mod.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #810 (isolation #60) » Mon May 11, 2015 10:57 pm

vote: oversoul

That's not protown behavior IMO, that's scum just looking for a free Lynch with no repercussions

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #814 (isolation #61) » Tue May 12, 2015 3:09 am

In post 811, Oversoul wrote:Yup. Jake definitely just went against his word with that vote.

yep you are right, but when I see something so scummy and that person is actually playing the game i'm going to do something about it. Palkia isn't off the hook but until he returns or is replaced my vote is better served on you.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #815 (isolation #62) » Tue May 12, 2015 3:10 am

In post 812, Oversoul wrote:Jake is really doing whatever he can to make sure he is not on a main wagon today.

jake is really doing whatever he can do to make sure we lynch scum

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #823 (isolation #63) » Tue May 12, 2015 8:53 am

Bbt, that link for 609/610 didn't work

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #831 (isolation #64) » Tue May 12, 2015 9:47 am

@bbt, find it interesting that you have me as a scum read yet seem to have gone out of your way to avoid interacting with me.

I also find it funny that you are asking people to explain their town reads. But when I asked you for a better explanation of your palkia read you didn't really do it. Instead you just repeated that you think hes town. Seems kinda hypocritical to ask people to do things you aren't prepared to do yourself...

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #834 (isolation #65) » Tue May 12, 2015 9:58 am

Id post more content if the people I want to lynch would post, but they aren't here. And no you didn't explain it good enough, you said some shit about their posts looked town but after I posted that their posts contain no scum hunting and just trolling, I'm sitting here confused why you are town reading him. I can't find more than 1 half decent post

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #920 (isolation #66) » Tue May 12, 2015 11:28 pm

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think I agree with bbt about rev, the arrogance IMO looks fake. The havoc replacement still hasn't done anything and that's troubling

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #921 (isolation #67) » Tue May 12, 2015 11:29 pm

In post 872, Jeanne11 wrote:You obviously think I should be lynched, so why bother?

Seiousky what the hell.kind of attitude is.this? Why replace in if you are just going to do jack shit.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #922 (isolation #68) » Tue May 12, 2015 11:30 pm

In post 867, Jeanne11 wrote:
In post 861, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Jeanne, look in scum PT.

I'm telling you to fake-claim.

We have a confession. He is obviously scum, trying to get me to FC so he can pin it on me.

This makes no sense, if bbt were scum and you were town why would he ask you to fake claim?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #924 (isolation #69) » Wed May 13, 2015 1:54 am

Yes its been consistent, but that doesn't mean much, my best scum games have come from being consistent

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #925 (isolation #70) » Wed May 13, 2015 1:57 am

vote: Jeanne

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #926 (isolation #71) » Wed May 13, 2015 1:58 am

That should be l-1 btw

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #928 (isolation #72) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:13 am

In post 927, Oversoul wrote:I asked everyone about their top two townreads

This is another reason why you are scum. This gives scum more info than it should have. Nobody should give their top 2 town reads

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #930 (isolation #73) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:19 am

Doesn't matter what its for, its a bad idea always

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #934 (isolation #74) » Wed May 13, 2015 4:03 am

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #945 (isolation #75) » Wed May 13, 2015 4:17 am

I hate troll accounts

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #991 (isolation #76) » Fri May 15, 2015 5:46 am

vote: oversoul

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1001 (isolation #77) » Fri May 15, 2015 5:50 am

In post 993, Oversoul wrote:Please for the love of God unvote one of you
I am the Bodyguard

unvote

who did you protect each night and why?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1009 (isolation #78) » Fri May 15, 2015 5:56 am

In post 1005, Rune wrote:Last palkia hammer you didn't let go of palkia for most of the day. Why so quick on oversoul now? I do agree with the vote though lol

And how did that work out for me? Palkia didn't get lynched and people really had no interest in lynching them, now palkia hammers scum so i am pretty sure people won't want to lynch palkia today.

Oversoul was my number 2 yesterday so that is who I wanted to pressure

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1024 (isolation #79) » Fri May 15, 2015 6:49 am

In post 1022, Oversoul wrote:I also think that Jake could be scum here given the amount of effort he is giving in this game (which is not much)

that's not really true. I mean sure early on my effort was bad but I was away and had to catch up but day 2 I was trying hard to get palkia lynched and nobody was willing to even pressure the dude.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1045 (isolation #80) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:08 am

vote elyse

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1052 (isolation #81) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:10 am

nope I'm not, but i've been around long enough to know when we have a guilty, you lynch it

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1057 (isolation #82) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:13 am

unvote

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1059 (isolation #83) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:15 am

In post 1058, Palkia wrote:
i hammered scum yesterday so i deserve all the credit for that one

yeah except I have seen scum hammer their buddy before. You get town cred if elyse flips scum also

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1063 (isolation #84) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:21 am

I voted because I actually believe palkia's claim, he handled it how you should handle being a PR. Be scummy enough to not get lynched but too scummy to be NK'd

I unvoted because I feel like hearing from elyse and others before we end the day. More information is good in this situation. Also I want to make sure palkia isn't trolling

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1066 (isolation #85) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:31 am

jake looks like jake, and jake isn't scum

p.edit - I didn't unvote for fear of you hammering, I thought about it and felt that more time was better

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1068 (isolation #86) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:34 am

town sounding defense? I didn't even come up with a defense. what are you talking about?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1070 (isolation #87) » Fri May 15, 2015 7:49 am

I wasn't trying to come up with any defense

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1072 (isolation #88) » Fri May 15, 2015 8:01 am

I didn't need one

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1146 (isolation #89) » Sat May 16, 2015 5:34 am

In post 1144, Oversoul wrote:A watercress sandwich sounds delicious actually.

Since when was furclow in this game?

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 16, 2015 11:13 pm

OK how did HI get run up? What happened to Elyse? Was going to try and catch up but too much to read, I'll try to reread later, going back to bed now

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1287 (isolation #91) » Sun May 17, 2015 1:10 pm

can somebody tell me why elyse isn't swinging from a rope right now? I know I have missed a ton but how in the hell did we let elyse off the hook and instead run up somebody else?

we have a guilty so we lynch the guilty right? I mean that's how I always play

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1296 (isolation #92) » Sun May 17, 2015 1:44 pm

In post 1288, Elyse wrote:Read the thread

yeah I will when I have time, but somebody can give me a summary?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1297 (isolation #93) » Sun May 17, 2015 1:45 pm

In post 1294, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1287, Jake from State Farm wrote:can somebody tell me why elyse isn't swinging from a rope right now? I know I have missed a ton but how in the hell did we let elyse off the hook and instead run up somebody else?

we have a guilty so we lynch the guilty right? I mean that's how I always play

Just wants the day over so he doesn't have to contribute.

Yup yup. This is scum.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1298 (isolation #94) » Sun May 17, 2015 1:46 pm

you do remember I was v/la this weekend and I posted this when I returned?

In post 1208, Jake from State Farm wrote:OK how did HI get run up? What happened to Elyse? Was going to try and catch up but too much to read, I'll try to reread later, going back to bed now

and from what I can tell from a quick skim, nobody answered my questions

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1304 (isolation #95) » Sun May 17, 2015 2:01 pm

In post 1299, Rune wrote:
In post 1296, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 1288, Elyse wrote:Read the thread

yeah I will when I have time, but somebody can give me a summary?

Gs guilty isn't super useful because we suspect palkia may be trolling as he has hard scumread Elyse since d1. Elyse claimed vt but I'm not sure she isn't pr just lying to avoid a claim and possible nk. Iso palkia.

Meanwhile the counter wagon to Havoc from d1 needs to have scum on it. If palkia and oversoul have both claimed pr then hostile must be scum. If hostile flips town, I can't trust oversoul or palkia and atleast one is lying.

Thank you.

I could see pakia faking guilty on elyse if he was so sure as I have seen townies do that before, but the thing that stands out is if he is faking GS, where is the counter claim? this game has a GS in it does it not? wouldn't the real GS have just cc'd him?

I'm down waiting to hear from palkia but I don't get how anyone else got to L1 in the meantime. I will have to read up and also look over HI's iso, unfortunately I don't remember much from him and need to refresh my memory.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1308 (isolation #96) » Sun May 17, 2015 2:11 pm

my bad, confusing games. disregard that post. i'd explain but not sure how much that would violate the rules

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1313 (isolation #97) » Sun May 17, 2015 2:19 pm

In post 1310, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1308, Jake from State Farm wrote:my bad, confusing games. disregard that post. i'd explain but not sure how much that would violate the rules

was so many really necessary?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1315 (isolation #98) » Sun May 17, 2015 2:25 pm

i'm not voting hostile until I have time to do what I said I was going to do in post 1304.

Right now I am just going to comment on current things until I have time to do what I said in 1304, and that won't be today

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1324 (isolation #99) » Sun May 17, 2015 2:54 pm

In post 1318, Oversoul wrote:If Jake gets to L-1 I will hammer him regardless of claim.

what was the point of this? we know you are scum reading me, nobody gives a shit

Jake from State Farm · Sun May 17, 2015 3:02 pm

In post 1326, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1324, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 1318, Oversoul wrote:If Jake gets to L-1 I will hammer him regardless of claim.

what was the point of this? we know you are scum reading me, nobody gives a shit

there's chum in the water

yet i'm the one trying to lynch scum...

Jake from State Farm · Sun May 17, 2015 3:10 pm

oh yeah I unvoted to give elyse time to talk so the day didn't end so soon.

Vote: elyse

Jake from State Farm · Sun May 17, 2015 3:16 pm

In post 1333, Rune wrote:.

Please unvote so we don't lynch Elyse right now.

unvote

but consider my vote still on elyse

Jake from State Farm · Sun May 17, 2015 3:51 pm

In post 1287, Jake from State Farm wrote:we have a guilty so we lynch the guilty right? I mean that's how I always play

Jake from State Farm · Sun May 17, 2015 4:14 pm

it does worry me some that it is palkia claiming a guilty but it takes a really ballsy scum player to hammer his buddy and then fake claim a PR with a guilty. I say ballsy but actually it would be really stupid because if he and elyse are scum he'd be banking on town cred til the end of the game which would almost never last that long. The other possibility is he is town trolling which I realize is still a possibility, I really don't want to be in a situation where town had the chance to lynch scum and ended up lynching town.

Jake from State Farm · Sun May 17, 2015 4:29 pm

it's not really rushing, I don't think anyone is going to hammer you but tbh hostile begging for someone to hammer you did feel weird

p.edit - I'll try and get that done tomorrow.

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:26 pm

No let's not cause I'm not scum

That HI wagon was highly suspect, even though palkia was lying about Elyse I still think Elyse is scum because of how the HI counter happened.

vote: Elyse

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:31 pm

BTW I'm pretty sure we are in Mylo right now.

Why was I getting lynched? People were trying to say I was scum with HI, obviously that's not true cause hi wasn't scum. I'm not scum either. I want to look.at how that HI counter happened, will do that in the morning.

P.edit - well yeah he's an idiot for that but he didn't start the wagon on himself now did he? No whoever is scum with Elyse started that wagon.

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:35 pm

Actually just looked at the final VC. Rune/Elyse/Axe/oversoul were first 4. I believe rune's claim so not him. Not surprised to see Elyse was next. Yeah I'm good with my Elyse vote.

No idea if Axe is scum with Elyse or not. I'll look.at interactions later

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:39 pm

I didn't say lylo. I said Mylo and and no that's not true.

Based on experience normal games have 3 scum. That means right now we have 4 town and 2 scum (sure I've seen 1 normal with only 2 scum so it's possible we aren't in Mylo. But that is very rare for normals)

If we lynch a townie tonight its basically game.over unless somehow scum kill fails.

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:41 pm

unvoted

I'm going to be voting Elyse but just to make sure since I'm going to bed, I want to find her partner and don't need a quick lynch overnight.

Lylo is different than Mylo. Mylo you can nl and narrow.the field to an odd number (a strategy I've seen used before)

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:45 pm

Hopefully palkia posts soon, though even though my signature says everyone deserves a second chance, palkia doesn't. I'm never ever ever playing with him again... Like ever. But only if he.turns out.to be town. If he's scum he did a nice job.

Good night

P.edit - Yeah I realize that.

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:50 pm

I never said we should nl

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 3:53 pm

If I ever roll scum I'll do that, but I'm town this game.

Care to state reasons why you think I'm scum? I need a good laugh

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 4:01 pm

Don't you have to convince people I'm scum to lynch me?

So you fake claim tracker and get saint killed for no reason? Just think you could have had me ded if you didn't do that and then everyone would see I'm town. If.we weren't in Mylo, I'd say go ahead and lynch me but now it's too late. We are lynching scum today and that scum is Elyse.

P.edit - Idk who Elyse's partner is. Could be palkia, could be you. I'll go through iso's tomorrow or the next day

Jake from State Farm · Wed May 20, 2015 10:19 pm

In post 1586, TheReverend wrote:Both of them are really keen to insist palkia is scum,

No I haven't, why are you lying about me. I'm insisting Elyse is scum and idk who her partner is.

@rune, none of those posts were retarded. Also please don't use that word again. Its very offensive to me. My mother is deaf and has cerebral palsy and I grew up with mean kids calling her retarded so I hate that word.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 12:52 am

Axe and rev aren't obviously town.

I didn't see your questions as I was jogging while posting. I'll look for them when I get to work

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 1:23 am

Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not scum either, and idk what this cheating stuff is coming from, if rev is scum how would he have cheated?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 1:54 am

In post 1589, Rune wrote:You also avoided answering my questions.

ok so I am looking for questions but i don't see any. What post are they in?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:10 am

I don't really care if you believe me or not.

also why are you calling me out for not answering your question when you already know the answer to it? If you are narrowing the lynch pool to just us 2, of course I am going to say palkia. Why? because lynching me will result in the game being over and town loses. I'm not sold on palkia being scum just yet. I don't have a town read on axe or the rev and you have cleared axe (I hope you aren't just trolling because I have lost games where town did that very thing) so I have to dig through the ISOs of those 2 and see which one makes sense to me. I want to dig through elyse's posts also just to make sure my gut read on her is accurate.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:33 am

In post 1598, Rune wrote:Yeah... I'm the troll this game....that makes perfect sense.

Well you did essentially admit to starting a fight with oversoul to avoid being NKd, that's technically trolling...

I'm not saying you are, I'm just hoping you aren't. I had a game where I had scum nailed dead to rights and town cop lied about an inno because he was so sure I was wrong/scum. He was wrong, I was right and I can't remember the outcome but town probably lost.

I'm just saying I hope your inno on ax is legit

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:37 am

In post 1599, Rune wrote:Why don't you care if I believe you? I'm the only truly confirmed town alive right now and if I'm not in on the lynch, scum is. Early in the game, sure. Right now? You probably should care.

If you don't care, who are you addressing when you claim not scum?

I don't care cause I don't care. Great you are near confirmed but I'm never been a big fan of caring if people believe me or not.

I say I'm not scum when people say I am, I say it to defend myself and correct their lies.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 3:01 am

In post 1602, Rune wrote:People being honest is not a requirement in this game nor should it be expected, even from town.

disagree 100%

there is no excuse in lying as town. It is one of my inexcusable sins

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 5:44 am

Well I wouldn't answer the question. I've blacklisted at least 6 or 7 people for lying as town. I eventually took a break and decided to give everyone a second chance and removed my blacklist.

If you lie as town, you are a despicable person who has no respect for the integrity of the game

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 6:21 am

I can't help being busy in RL and falling behind, I did my best to catch up but the game got away from me. The mistake I made had nothing to do with not paying attention it had everything to do with the gunsmith claim and hey I'm human, mistakes happen.

You are really comparing accidents and unforseen circumstances to deliberate acts?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 6:30 am

Please don't call me names. Call me Jake or jfsf.

Thanks.

P.edit - Jake or jfsf is fine anything else is unacceptable

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 6:48 am

scum will be hammering me. The sad thing is nobody can even tell me why they think i'm scum.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 6:52 am

In post 1622, NotAnAxehole wrote:
In post 1621, Jake from State Farm wrote:scum will be hammering me. The sad thing is nobody can even tell me why they think i'm scum.

And you can't tell us why you aren't!

sure I can.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 7:03 am

no it has nothing to do with that.

you know what maybe I can't tell you why I am town. I played like shit and had a series of unfortunate rl issues. If you look over my track record for the past 3 or 4 months I have had a bunch of RL stuff going on (yes i realize that isn't an excuse) and I have been inactive and even replaced out of games because of it. I have probably replaced out of 3 or 4 games and that is why I didn't want to replace out of this one as I was hoping I could tough it out but that first v/la I was on you guys went like 10+ pages and I never stood a chance. I play mostly from my phone and it's impossible to play catch up (for me anyway)

But lynching me based on my activity or lack of it isn't a good enough reason imo, not when we are in mylo and it will have a direct result in the outcome of the game.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 7:07 am

well care to enlighten me? cause that's pretty much all you have against me. I know for a fact that you don't have a guilty on me so let's hear your case

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 7:23 am

1. my iso is terrible yes, that has everything to do with my activity
2. Day 2 I also went after oversoul and havoc/jeanne so that isn't true either
3. yes I immediately gun for elyse because I thought he had a guilty. I already explained this. I am going after elyse today because despite the fake claim, that HI wagon to me felt like a counter and while lying, palkia was probably right about elyse.
4. Nobody asked me to post any analysis or reasoning
5. I don't see how the NK suggests it's not elyse explain this please
6. it's not me and I don't think you have a clear on Rev, I think you are just town reading him really hard and refuse to consider him for scum which is bad play when we are in mylo.
7. Palkia could be scum with elyse, but I'm not ruling out TheRev either.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 7:45 am

it was a counter wagon because it was directly competing with the elyse wagon. Elyse at one point was at L-1 iirc and she didn't do a good job of defending herself either.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 8:00 am

I got off the wagon to give time for elyse to talk. I even said consider myself voting for elyse. Elyse was the right lynch yesterday imo, trolling scum or not

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 8:01 am

In post 1331, Jake from State Farm wrote:oh yeah I unvoted to give elyse time to talk so the day didn't end so soon.

Vote: elyse

In post 1334, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 1333, Rune wrote:.

Please unvote so we don't lynch Elyse right now.

unvote

but consider my vote still on elyse

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 8:04 am

shit I meant to quote my other vote and where I explain my unvote and then put them in spoilers

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 8:18 am

In post 1640, Rune wrote:So town lying is the worst thing ever but a wagon based on a lie is better than a wagon based on someone trying to look scummy enough to get lynched? True....smh

but at the time I didn't know palkia was lying. My last post before that day phase ended palkia had not outed that he was lying. I had no idea it was a lie until night phase when I was finally able to catch up on the 200 posts that happened while I was out of town and dealing with an accident that kept me away from the site for basically all of monday.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 1:08 pm

Sorry but I'm not making excuses for myself, I had real issues outside of the game so fuck off for implying they are fake.

Not being sure =/= keeping options open. Especially when I haven't even done the research that I want to do first. I've scum hunted early on and what poor posts have I made? This is the first you have mentioned it. Why not mention it when you first saw them?

Yeah you are full of shit

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 1660, Elyse wrote:And yes, it does mean that. If you had any critical knowledge of the gamestate, you would know that scum is basically whittled down to {me, you, Palkia}

Why have you left the Rev off that list? He's not cleared by anyone.

I'll look those posts in a little bit

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 1:34 pm

Nothing wrong with 1575, just a little omgus from you perhaps?
1600 looks good to me, plus its fact what I said in that post
Don't see anything wrong with 1632 either.

Funny you wait til now to call these out, and not when you were posting 1579, 1580, 1648, 1652, 1655, or 1656. If from your POV I'm scum, clearly you would have called me out already..

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 1:39 pm

In post 1661, Rune wrote:*grabs popcorn*

Seriously though, the more you two argue the better of town is. Much as I'd like to contribute by making cases for and against either of you, none of it matters as much as your posts right now.......

*continues eating popcorn*

I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:00 pm

In post 1666, Elyse wrote:Because he's obvtown.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:01 pm

In post 1666, Elyse wrote:This isn't even worth responding to.

Why? If I'm scum , wouldn't you want to call me out for my scummy posts?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:10 pm

Its easy to point to random posts and say they look bad, why do they look bad? What was so bad about them?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:28 pm

1. Or it could be legit and you are just twisting my action's
2. Wasn't casting doubt, just pointing out something he admitted to doing. Him being town doesn't mean he wasn't trolling. That was a completely factual post so it can't be bad unless you say it wasn't factual, but wait he admitted he basically staged it... Oh snap
3. 3 & 7 aren't contradictory at all. 3 is talking about my thoughts during that day phase and 7 is talking about my thoughts this day phase.. And 4 may suck but its true. I'm notorious for withholding info to force somebody to interact with me. People give me shit all the time for reasonless votes and such, because I like to make people interact with me.

You fail

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:33 pm

In post 1666, Elyse wrote:Well it's not a scumslip since I'm not scum, but how would this be a scumslip anyway? I don't understand.

Its a scum slip cause you said one of those 3 were scum, we know 2 weren't. But you don't bring it up now, and only list palkia as your scum read by poe only. It means you aren't being truthful and that looks shady

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:48 pm

Look dude, you don't have to be a dick OK?

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:49 pm

Nah you've been nothing but a dick to me the entire day phase. Stop it

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:56 pm

In post 1684, NotAnAxehole wrote:you could have read through the whole 68 pages of the game and known why a lot of what people are saying is accurate

Nah as explained that on my phone I can't read 68 pages, I need my computer for that. If I fall behind on my phone, I'm pretty much fucked unless I can set time aside and unfortunately that wasn't able to happen.

I get that I caused my own problems, I'm doing my best to make up for it now but obviously I'm too late

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:58 pm

In post 1690, Elyse wrote:VOTE: Palkia

Still waiting for you to explain why therev is obv town

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 2:58 pm

In post 1688, Rune wrote:Is anyone not ok with quick lynching Palkia right now?

Me, cause I don't want to quick lynch anyone.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 3:36 pm

In post 1699, Rune wrote:@Elyse and Jake

Now, how does that change if I tell you that I have been keeping 1-shot vig this whole time, and it isn't actually either LYLO or MYLO.

Discuss.

I think you shouldn't have showed your hand but that's good. Best case scenario we lynch scum and you shoot the partner so we don't have to suffer anymore. Though I realize that means regardless what happens I'm either lynched or shot.

Jake from State Farm · Thu May 21, 2015 10:31 pm

In post 1706, Rune wrote:Well, I wanted to firm up my reads. Since I will be dead tomorrow I want to be able to make my opinions perfectly clear. I don't really trust Axe or Rev to vote in the best interest of town. And this also allowed scum to commit to their Night-talk plan which will now have to be abandoned and therefore make them easier to identify.

Prime example: Why does this mean you will be lynched or shot no matter what? Why couldn't it be Elyse and Palkia who are lynched and shot?

Because you seem convinced I'm scum, and Axe definitely seems convinced I'm scum. If we lynch Elyse and you shoot palkia and for some reason that's game over, I'm automatically lynched next day phase cause I don't trust Axe to get out of tunnel mode and the rev will of course vote me.

Jake from State Farm · Fri May 22, 2015 2:20 am

That's if scum is Elyse/palkia. I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that pair. That means palkia hammered one buddy and faked a guilty on the other.

I'm planning on Iso'ing rev later, also Axe just in case he's the gf, which is a remote possibility. If one of Elyse/palkia isn't scum. I'm next 100% for reasons I already said. Axe is gonna Vote me no matter what and the rev has no choice to Lynch me, especially if he's scum.

Jake from State Farm · Fri May 22, 2015 5:59 am

sorry, I really hate to do this but one of the skittles has forced my hand. Unfortunately I can't say anything else or i'll get a site ban (not that it matters as this is the last post from me)

request replacement

Good luck everyone

p.edit - that's not what i was saying but it's a moot point now. And yes I am not very optimistic when almost everyone is scum reading me for things I really had no control over and town reading people who from what I can see from my pov, played worse than me.

Anyway, lynch me, shoot me or wait for my replacement. I don't care anymore.

Final words: Don't just assume the Rev is town, keep in mind that GF is definitely possible, elyse is probably scum though, I am not scum

deuces

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 23, 2015 6:36 am

retract request to replace

Mod said I could come back, felt bad he can't find one and couldn't stay away until I know what happens.

In post 1717, NotAnAxehole wrote:Are you calling Rune a skittle?

No, mods of the site are skittles

I'll finish reading after I finish my yard work. Sorry to disappoint you Axe, but I'm back.

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 23, 2015 6:38 am

Sorry palkia

vote: palkia

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 23, 2015 7:01 am

If he doesn't flip scum and you are lying about not having a vig shot, go ahead and shoot me. If he flips scum don't shoot

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 23, 2015 7:12 am

In post 1741, NotAnAxehole wrote:Oh... Sorry Jake, I didn't realize your vote was the hammer.

It was? No vc only had Elyse

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 23, 2015 7:20 am

The replace out wasn't part of any strategy, I'm quitting the site, I just didn't want to log off and walk away until I saw who won this game since it was almost over. I had a 10 minute break from yard work and decided to be nice and come back if the mod said OK. Since you don't think it's rev and I know its not me, I dropped a vote on palkia. I didn't know it was the hammer though. Should have read all the pages but I don't care anymore. This game needs to just end

Jake from State Farm · Sat May 23, 2015 7:29 am

Sorry, my replace had nothing to do with this game at all, but the confusing this one for another started it. It was an honest mistake and I dont deserve the win.

Sorry everyone.

Bye mafiascum.