Mini-Normal 1713: Mystery Mansion Mafia (GAME OVER)

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: All Alone
for naked voting.

If he hadn't done that I would have voted Davsto for first to confirm + sp00ky avatar.

This feels awkward. Accountant is trying to back up her RVS with a 2nd RVS FoS.

[MarioManiac4]

I don't feel like voting any of you at the moment, instead, I shall just let you all know that I am town. I obviously wouldn't lie to you good people so this effectively makes me confirmed town! If only every townie was as clever as me and had thought of this great way to confirm themselves the game would be so easy!

VOTE: Slandaar

Trying to scumread an extremely obvious joke.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Slandaar
1. OMGUS
2. Only player to confirm via PM

or Private Topic???

3. Tied leading wagons, fight!

No. 2 gives me a sense of trying to work things out. A townread.
Also Slandaar attracting attention with his first posts gives me a townread on him.

[MarioManiac4]

Ay. I like that pun. UNVOTE: Accountant.

VOTE: absta101 for having numbers in his name, the worst thing. This RVS vote is staying here I think.

piiiiiiiiiing

VOTE: Davsto

What pings?

[MarioManiac4]

I think you missed the part where I confirmed myself as town using logics.

VOTE: Slandaar

Also trying to hop onto an extremely obvious joke!

[MarioManiac4]

Was it really a gambit though?

It wasn't, just pre-game joking on my part. Can't speak for Slandaar, but my gut tells me he's doing the same.

What is one fm game that stands out in your memory?

I have not completed a single full game of forum mafia on this site.

Would you say you play as a better mafia scum or townie?

I think that I play better as scum, and enjoy it more. The "naughtiness" of sneaking around behind town member's backs amuses me, and I'm a big believer in the whole "knowledge is power" thing. Plus the level of coordination enjoyed by scum through night chat is just astounding.

What is the strangest fm game you ever played?

FM 7C on the Town of Salem forums. It was a forced Hydra game where you shared a slot with another player. I was the town roleblocker and ended up blocking a vanilla townie every night, stating the witch(an evil role) was confirmed town then lynching the doctor and elite bodyguard consecutively. I also ordered the vigilante to shoot a townie, and somehow managed to townread every single evil role in the game. Needless to say, a lot of shit was slung my way after the game

Have you ever dated anyone from fm?

No, I'm a physical asexual - I've only dated imaginary people(who are the only people that I'm attracted to).

What is a fun fact about yourself?

I'm not actually an accountant, but I do know some accountancy and I like long lists of numbers.

Whstde your issue with naked voting?

Public nudity laws aside, I don't like unreadable people in general and not backing up your vote makes you harder to read in my opinion.

So Accountant was also joking?
Anyway, a few things I don't like with this post;
1. Trying to appear newb by saying she hasn't completed a game on this site.
2. Her story about ToS seems like trying to make excuses for wrong reads.
VOTE: Accountant

[MarioManiac4]

Expedience with that serial killer soft though

Trying to continue RVS. Even happier with my vote.

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:
I think Mario is trying to see more in that post than there really is, like he was looking for a reason to just jump this wagon. Also too soon for L-1 imo, plenty players haven't posted yet since RVS.

Pretty sure it was L-2.
And I was looking for scum traits in the post because I had flagged her earlier posts as mafia-like. This is something I often do.
Pedit: You weren't drawing attention as much as responding to everything. Slandaar had just been plain outlandish.

[MarioManiac4]

26 is a joke vote, yes. Hence the follow up about me being mafia trying to mislynch him. I really don't like 127.

1. How does this stem from a scum motive? It's not a lie, either.

2. Well, I haven't played proper FM anywhere but here and there; I have no conpleted games here, and 7C was definitely my most memorable game there, the others being a role madness where I died without accomplishing much and a couple of replacements into late games.

Are you just looking for excuses to hop onto the wagon, mario?

1. Trying to appear more new then you are. You twisted the question. He asked about forum mafia in general, and you twisted that to this site.
2. OK, that is actually a somewhat valid explanation.

Also why did you feel the need to re-ask wanderer's question?

Pedit: His claiming town stood out, your claiming scum was a response that carefully blended in while twisting an earlier vote to a joke.

[MarioManiac4]

1. Trying to appear more new then you are. You twisted the question. He asked about forum mafia in general, and you twisted that to this site.

The full, complete answer would be:

1) I have no completed games here.
2) I have two completed games on the Salem forums. One was as a third party solo role in a role madness (SFM7, I was the Harpy), the other I talk about in the next question plus two replacements about 100 pages in, in which I lasted three RL days and five RL days, respectively. Note also that the culture, game mechanics and playing style in those forums are vastly different from MafiaScum.

Now, tell me: how did my answer push a scum agenda?

How many fucking times do I need to say this?
Pretending to be more new then you are pushes a scum agenda.

[MarioManiac4]

If you convinced people you're new you are able to fly under the radar more, your scummy mistakes can be classed as "newb mistakes" etc.
I suggest looking it up. It's a pretty common scumtell.
Or did you know this already?

[MarioManiac4]

If she pushes some mislynches she can point to that and say "look, I'm not a good player. I'm not scum for pushing these mislynches."

[MarioManiac4]

Performer's RQS is pretty much null; i've seen town do it many times.

Can you link these?

[MarioManiac4]

I have voted. I unvoted later because I no longer think Performer's vote looks suspicious.

Why not?

[MarioManiac4]

As I don't have any other games on site, none of them stand out in my memory.

The strangest game I played had a Jester whose existence was announced at the beginning of the game, the game ended in a loss for everyone else if they were lynched. That really messed up how the game worked.

I probably play better as town, and it's more fun!

I

have

dated someone I played a forum mafia game with, it was okay!

Fun fact: I milked a cow today (at a county fair.)

So Akarin did the same thing.
A more mild scumread on her.

[MarioManiac4]

Back on topic,

I think Wolfie and Expedience (Expy?) are being silly in thinking of this as some daring gambit. It's a simple joke that plenty of people as either alignment do all the time. "Practically confirmed town" is ridiculous.

It's weird that the gambit language has been repeated so much. And Wolfie looks like she has a lot more experience, it's weird that she'd buy into this kind of logic if she were actually trying to figure out if Slandaar were town or scum.

VOTE: SilverWolf

Did Wolfie do that? I don't recall this.
Also I think Expedience was joking.

[MarioManiac4]

Back on topic,

I think Wolfie and Expedience (Expy?) are being silly in thinking of this as some daring gambit. It's a simple joke that plenty of people as either alignment do all the time. "Practically confirmed town" is ridiculous.

It's weird that the gambit language has been repeated so much. And Wolfie looks like she has a lot more experience, it's weird that she'd buy into this kind of logic if she were actually trying to figure out if Slandaar were town or scum.

VOTE: SilverWolf

Definitely agreeing here.

Slandaar's comment and the other person's follow up was blatantly a joke, and why people are actually voting on the two based on that is beyond me. It's like super-reaching, trying to find evidence when there's nothing.

VOTE: SilverWolf

Out of everything to agree with!
Noted for soft-defending Accountant.

[MarioManiac4]

Uh, sorry, I appear to have misplaced my vote, it wasn't silverwolf who voted someone (seemingly seriously) based on the stuff.
UNVOTE:
It was Performer.
VOTE: performer

However, SilverWolf, townreading them by that exchange is also silly. I just find reaching to vote on a single person more scummy than oddly townreading two people from it.
Excuse me while I facepalm for being silly enough to mix that up.

Let me guess; you mixed it up because you wanted to follow Akarin onto a town wagon.

[MarioManiac4]

Yeh, sorry, I saw Akarin's comment and vote on you and assumed you were one of the ones voting Slandaar, without checking.

See my earlier point.
Willing to vote on Davsto.

[MarioManiac4]

I don't think that what Slandaar did was alignment indicative at all, and I'm treating it as a null tell on him. I think that SilverWolf's townreading me and Slandaar seems far-fetched, and an experienced player like him should know better. I'm not sure what to think about this, but it's possible buddying.

I think Akarin's analysis pretty much hit the nail on the head as well. I'm currently looking at the votecount and it's three votes for me three for Performer, so I think it makes sense to go ahead and

VOTE: Performer

Performer, if you could justify your vote that would be great.

This makes an Accountant/Akarin/? team more likely.

[MarioManiac4]

No.

I mixed it up because I agreed with the points, but didn't realise that Akarin had placed her vote on someone that hadn't actually done that.

Why did you agree with the points?

[MarioManiac4]

That was a mistype. It should be "where town claimed town", which means that since scum would know you played in games where town claimed town, they would be incentivized to claim town to seem town themselves.

I'd say this is a

very

weak argument, since SilverWolf didn't say that she believed this to be a Town tell before Slandaar made his comment. It would require scum to both read the games that she mentioned, and also require SilverWolf noticing and mentioning it. If SilverWolf and Slandaar were both scum, I really don't think they'd be this blatant.

Nevertheless, I don't think Town are any more likely to claim Town during RVS / RQS than scum.

I agree with Expi here.
However, one think I'd like to ask is; why did the vote go onto Performer rather than Expedience?
Is it because Expi's scum and therefore the other was chosen to be wagoned?

Pedit: Pretty sure Expi called Slandaar town, not scum

[MarioManiac4]

If I'm not missing something about Ara claiming Performer thought slandaar was town then most of the wagon is built on sand.
The fact that Accountant and Performer were counterwagons also give me a townread on that slot.

[MarioManiac4]

@Mario

If she pushes some mislynches she can point to that and say "look, I'm not a good player. I'm not scum for pushing these mislynches."

Where does she say she isn't a good player?

Can you link these?

I really don't want to have to go find them. I just remember seeing town players do RQS, especially newer players.
Also, I want to make it clear that the meta point I mentioned isn't the main reason for my null-read of his RQS. It's mainly because I don't see any compelling scum or town motivations for what he did.

I never said she DID, I said she COULD.

[MarioManiac4]

No.

I mixed it up because I agreed with the points, but didn't realise that Akarin had placed her vote on someone that hadn't actually done that.

Let's take a look at the three votes on Slandaar, shall we?

I don't feel like voting any of you at the moment, instead, I shall just let you all know that I am town. I obviously wouldn't lie to you good people so this effectively makes me confirmed town! If only every townie was as clever as me and had thought of this great way to confirm themselves the game would be so easy!

VOTE: Slandaar

I know you're town. I'm actually mafia trying to push a quickhammer on a townie before people realize how confirmed he is.

Clearly a joke vote.

VOTE: Slandaar
1. OMGUS
2. Only player to confirm via PM

or Private Topic???

3. Tied leading wagons, fight!

A bit meh on this one, but doesn't seem to be making the vote based on the joke vote.

I think you missed the part where I confirmed myself as town using logics.

VOTE: Slandaar

As for someone claiming to be mafia or town...I played games on another site, where a few people did that early in day 1 and wow, it turned out quite bad for us townies, because they turned out to be something other than the claim.

On the other hand, Performer seemed to take the obvious joke seriously and actually voted based on it, by the looks of it.

That is why I voted Performer over the others.

These statements are pretty contradictory.
Why does Performer trying to find something scummy and get out of it seem scummy to you?

[MarioManiac4]

If I'm not missing something about Ara claiming Performer thought slandaar was town then most of the wagon is built on sand.
The fact that Accountant and Performer were counterwagons also give me a townread on that slot.

Can you please make this a little more clear because I have no idea what wagon you mean and whom you're townreading.

So I thought Performer was being voted for townreading Slandaar for a moment, when that didn't happen.
I was townreading Performer.

[MarioManiac4]

@Mario

I never said she DID, I said she COULD.

That's not what i'm getting at. You said in point 2 that she is trying to make excuses for wrong reads with her ToS (town or scum, i'm guessing). You then explained in post 148 that she could push a mislynch and then later state that she isn't a good player like she already 'told us'.

What i'm asking is, where does she say that she isn't a good player in her original response to Performers RQS? All I see is her saying that she is a better scum player, this does not mean she is a bad town player.

What I'm saying is the TOS game implies she's not great without actually stating it. She could easily point to this after pushing a mislynch.
All of this would actually be irrelevant if Accountant said that she's not a bad town player and wouldn't point to it after pushing a town lynch.

[MarioManiac4]

@Mario

I never said she DID, I said she COULD.

That's not what i'm getting at. You said in point 2 that she is trying to make excuses for wrong reads with her ToS (town or scum, i'm guessing). You then explained in post 148 that she could push a mislynch and then later state that she isn't a good player like she already 'told us'.

What i'm asking is, where does she say that she isn't a good player in her original response to Performers RQS? All I see is her saying that she is a better scum player, this does not mean she is a bad town player.

What I'm saying is the TOS game implies she's not great without actually stating it. She could easily point to this after pushing a mislynch.
All of this would actually be irrelevant if Accountant said that she's not a bad town player and wouldn't point to it after pushing a town lynch.

I'm not a bad town player, and if I push any mislynches or give out bad reads I'll take full responsibility for it, just like any other player in this game. There, now you no longer have any excuse to vote me.

Pull another one.
Why are you pretending that's my only point on you?

Personally, I still like my vote on him, he feels like he's scum going "I need to appear like a scumhunter so I'll pull something that won't actually expose real mafia but that gives me justification to push a scumwagon". I think Davsto's comments about SilverWolf over-reaching can be applied times two to mario.

Do you think I caught you for the wrong reasons?
What you say is "over-reaching" is what I call "D1"

@Expi; I'm not here to discuss my playstyle. If you think it's so terrible try WOT1-ing me.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario you missed this:

If I'm not missing something about Ara claiming Performer thought slandaar was town then most of the wagon is built on sand.
The fact that Accountant and Performer were counterwagons also give me a townread on that slot.

Can you please make this a little more clear because I have no idea what wagon you mean and whom you're townreading.

So I thought Performer was being voted for townreading Slandaar for a moment, when that didn't happen.
I was townreading Performer.

Ara is Akarin?
Most of what wagon was built on sand?

So what did happen?
Are you still townreading Performer?

Does any of this this change anthing of your read on Accountant?

I just ISOed you and found this.
Yes, Ara=Akarin.
I thought most of the Performer wagon was built on sand.

What actually happened was that Performer voted Slandaar.
I do not yet have a read on Performer.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario has said nothing to convince me that my vote on him is unjustified. I

still

don't understand what his case against me is. Like, can someone explain why he thinks I'm scummy because I don't understand anything he's saying right now. He's just throwing out sarcastic questions and acting like I'm proven scum or some shit.

Slandaar: 26 was a joke vote. I meant it to give off a "raging townie votes cocky player" vibe, and followed it up with 28 after you posted 27. Also, it was in RVS.

read my ISO. You're my biggest scumread and so I act like your scum.
Also, why did you design a post to look like "raging townie"?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Slandaar
1. OMGUS
2. Only player to confirm via PM

or Private Topic???

3. Tied leading wagons, fight!

No. 2 gives me a sense of trying to work things out. A townread.
Also Slandaar attracting attention with his first posts gives me a townread on him.

Mario, please explain this better. Why are you townreading Akarin off of this post? Especially considering you are scumreading Akarin off of this 151 and this 156. How are you reading Akarin now?

Also, you said you townread Performer here 169 and then later said you don't yet have a read on Perfomer 197. Can you explain this inconsistency?

1. It was an early stage of my reading. I wanted to note a townlean on Akarin at the time. I am now scumleaning on Akarin.
2. I actually completely forgot about Performer I was mostly thinking about Accountant at that time, and wasn't thinking about much else. Not really remembering him, I said I didn't have a read. That is actually a trait in my TvT tunnels. Once I've overlooked the game a bit further, I might unvote

[MarioManiac4]

I don't really think Mario's voting Accountant for playing the newb card to be a very valid scumread. Accountant has not, from what I've seen, been playing like she doesn't know what she's doing. Clearly, her response to the RQS was simply to give an example of a game she was in and talk about what happened.

143 is a good observation. Starting to lean town on absta. This is the second time Accountant has better explained herself later while not giving that reasoning in the first place. This pings as scummy to me. Also, 132 basically just sheeps Wanderer's wording here which I don't really like. Mario points that out here which is good 139. FoS is getting stronger on Accountant.

142 looks town from Mario. Although I didn't like his original reasoning for voting Accountant, this kind of play reminds me more of town Mario than scum Mario from the experience I have with him so far. Scum Mario is lurky and plays it safe, where town Mario is very aggressive in his pushes and does tunnel, hyper posts, and doesn't mind drawing attention to himself.

1. The newb card argument isn't really the basis for my Accountant scumread at the moment.
2. I have done the same thing before (see: Newbie 1629) except with a scumread instead of self-defence. Not sure if it's different, but it's still good to point out.
3. To be honest, that meta tell isn't really valid anymore. I almost like playing scum as much as playing town. (See: Newbie 1631)

[MarioManiac4]

Alright I will try and explain this as best I can.

Wanderer says this:

I said his tone was the same as his tone in another game where he was town.

Now, I find this just wrong, it is the wrong way to defend my opening post. The tone is the same as my town tone so it's null doesn't really tackle the content of the post and the reasons people were voting me. I have a hard time imagining town thinking in this way.

Also; I find it hard to believe town can take my tone, from my first post, and think it is the same as a game where I was completely serious.

VOTE: Wanderer

I am not that confident but this seems the best to me.

That is one post. I see where you're coming from but W-NL reads town due to gut. What do you think of other players?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Slandaar
1. OMGUS
2. Only player to confirm via PM

or Private Topic???

3. Tied leading wagons, fight!

No. 2 gives me a sense of trying to work things out. A townread.
Also Slandaar attracting attention with his first posts gives me a townread on him.

Mario, please explain this better. Why are you townreading Akarin off of this post? Especially considering you are scumreading Akarin off of this 151 and this 156. How are you reading Akarin now?

Also, you said you townread Performer here 169 and then later said you don't yet have a read on Perfomer 197. Can you explain this inconsistency?

1. It was an early stage of my reading. I wanted to note a townlean on Akarin at the time. I am now scumleaning on Akarin.
2. I actually completely forgot about Performer I was mostly thinking about Accountant at that time, and wasn't thinking about much else. Not really remembering him, I said I didn't have a read. That is actually a trait in my TvT tunnels. Once I've overlooked the game a bit further, I might unvote

So are you saying that your tunnel on Accountant is a TvT now?

It could be. Could not be.

[MarioManiac4]

@Expi; I'm not here to discuss my playstyle. If you think it's so terrible try WOT1-ing me.

Mario, this doesn't actually address Expy's point:

I feel that Mario's aggression is excessive, unwarranted, and anti-Town. He looks very hard to find scummy things, and to some degree he's probably seeing things that aren't there. The repeated stabbing of his quote + quip seems like he's trying to appear very pro-Town by filling up pages and raising his post count, while perhaps saving some of his point for later posts and, uh, not nonuple-posting would actually help more. Perhaps I'm reading too much into this in some ways and it's just an aspect of his playstyle when he replaces in, but it nevertheless makes him lean scum for me. I support the wagon against him.

He said maybe it was just your playstyle, but it's not an unreasonable read. He does point out a possible scum motivation, but you just dismiss this very offhandedly. Do you think your play this game matches your other games, or is it different somehow?

And I agree, the giant quote wall spam makes the game much harder to read, and your aggression is over the top. Please try to tone it down for the sake of keeping everyone engaged and the game pleasant to read.

Maybe I turned off when he started denouncing my play like he had the right to judge everything!
Maybe aggression is the best way to find scum!
Maybe being engaged, scumhunting and answering questions isn't "GIANT QUOTE WALLE SPAMM!!!!1"

[MarioManiac4]

Mario, do you want to actually answer my question?

This matches my general playstyle. As scum I try to imitate it.

[MarioManiac4]

If Davsto got a Vanilla result he wouldn't have acted like that. Not one bit.
VOTE: grayfox

[MarioManiac4]

Yay.

I claim 1-Shot Vigilante. I shot Grayfoxxxx last night. This gives three notable possibilities.

1) He is Bulletproof - this was the most likely, he would know why I was asking if he were Bulletproof, yet he has claimed VT, so that is out of the window.
2) He was protected by a Town Doctor - I find this improbable, to say the least, due to him hardly being a worthy person to protect.
And 3, which I now believe happened:
3) He was protected by a Mafia Doctor, predicting a Vigilante kill. Thus, he is most likely Mafia.

I thought you were a rolecop
But this changes absolutely nothing.
pedit: Davsto, you basically confirmed Gray (or you) as Mafia? I don't get your caution?
Pedit: UNVOTE:
CDB makes a point

[MarioManiac4]

Although I definitely think Gfox is a viable lynch for today, regardless.

[MarioManiac4]

But, at any rate, GrayFox: let's talk about why you were so incredibly absent Yesterday that someone tried to vig you.

I can't speak for others. Someone said he was a rolecop? How could he shoot me?

He explicitly claimed last page. Keep up, man.

326

If you read Davsto's post it implies Rolecop.
I don't know what to think because I actually really thought Davsto was scum...

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: wanderer

So why didn't you do this before?
If you can defend yourself why the fuck can't you give reads?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: wanderer

So why didn't you do this before?
If you can defend yourself why the fuck can't you give reads?

"Delaying my hand".

Jokes aside, I'm not in a position to quote, edit, and format anything right now.

That's why the fuck

You don't need to!

[MarioManiac4]

X is town. Y is scum. Z is probtown. N is null. VOTE:

[MarioManiac4]

I like to provide reasoning while dropping a big list.

You know, go ahead and skip the "BUT WHY?", part of the process.

Which you could answer while at home. Opinions and votes are important to get out there.
Just because you like to do something shouldn't make it necessary.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: fox
I honestly think this is the best wagon. ChannelDelibird seems somewhat town.

[MarioManiac4]

but... but...
greyfox is scum

[MarioManiac4]

See how quickly that wagon on Grayfoxxx disappeared?
Don't any of you find it suspicious?

[MarioManiac4]

See how quickly that wagon on Grayfoxxx disappeared?
Don't any of you find it suspicious?

Wanderer did something that seemed notably more scummy than Grayfoxxxx's bumbling, I don't see how this is suspicious.

I have never really found wagons randomly appearing or disappearing particularly indicative of anyone's alignments involved, or at least not in a consistent, readable way.

bumbling=mildly scummy
his iso= hugely scummy
like is it hard for you all to read it and vote him?

Also, here's a properly written tip because I feel SEish;
Scum would love for a wagon on scum to dissapear. They'll do what they can to stop it from going through.
Scum would hate for a wagon on town to dissapear. They'll force the wagon through and try to stop it from falling to the non-entity the grayfoxxx wagon is.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario, did you read #400? What do you think of it? I know that GrayFox's iso is 'bad', quote unquote, but I'm not convinced that it comes from a scum mindset. I don't know either way, but it's certainly nagging at me.

I read 400 and don't see why fox!scum wouldn't fake it. Sure, it's out of the box, but I think Gfoxx being town would be MORE out of the box.

My reads;

MarioManiac4
Davsto
SilverWolf

absta101
All Alone

Wanderer-nl
ChannelDelibird
Performer

Akarin

Grayfoxxx

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: wanderer-nl
Freaking fine. Have it your way.
We should've fucking lynched foxxx.
If this flips scum you guys can have a full apology.
Otherwise we need to lynch grayfoxxx's ass before he gets his scum ass to fucking LYLO.

[MarioManiac4]

this is l-1
unless we start to lynch grayfoxxx scum instead in which case it won't be l1, it'll be at least l2

[MarioManiac4]

Hi, Mario. If you want GrayFox lynched so badly, how's about you slow down a bit and wait for him to either redeem or destroy himself by following up on those reads he promised us? We're not under serious time pressure and multiple people have made it clear that they want to hear more from him. There's no need to fume about us not doing something which is still very much on the table. If you're town who wants to see GrayFox die, why let him slide by hurrying up someone else's lynch?

Because it's pissing me off that i'm the only one voting obvscum

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:
If people vote foxxx i'm obviously fine with it
VOTE: obvscumfoxthatisgrey

[MarioManiac4]

Yeah, but it's not like you're the only one who thinks that he's scummy. Wouldn't your cause be further advanced by, instead of putting Wanderer at L-1, reminding everyone of how late GrayFox is in producing that content he promised?

Doesn't everyone already know that?
Also foxxxx, you unvoted me d1. Clearly you had a townread on me.
Why haven't you explained it?
#HowToCatchObvscum

[MarioManiac4]

Sorry for not posting. I'm 99.9% convinced that Gray is scum at this point.

[MarioManiac4]

Please can everyone take a second to read gray's votes and vote for him?
4 more to see the light

[MarioManiac4]

I'd also like to point out be wants another claim

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Octopus
I doubt akarinslot would be nightkilled
Greyfox tommorow and gg!

[MarioManiac4]

I apologise if I have offended anyone.

IF your claim is accepted then you are little more than a VT, why would an NK be used on a VT, when there is a known, and presumably still active, power role in the game?

Have you learnt to read yet?

Allow me to help..

The Sun has rose!

Our guests come downstairs,

after a attempt on one of their lives was made during the night.

No one has died!

And congratulations on loosing the town a power role for no reason CDB, Perhaps you all should learn what a Jailkeeper can do?

And why can't you have made that kill attempt?
You seem way too experienced to "derp" like this.

[MarioManiac4]

Seriously, this is flailing on its highest level. I say someone hammers and we just put Octo out of their misery.

Yeah.
I'm just laughing that after the lynch

greyfoxxx

will have survived the longest out of all the scum.

[MarioManiac4]

Really "Derp?"

Jailkeeper is combination Doctor Roleblocker. Normal roleblocker is resolved on here as "The action never happened". A person in jail would not have any action take place of any sort.

CDB, there was no chance at all of you being the target, All you did yesterday was appeal for calm and fence sit. Today you are doing scum's work for them, you have justified their faith in leaving you in the game.

P-edit: Happy to oblige, I'm done.

VOTE: Octopus

The kill ATTEMPT would have occured, but nobody would have died, explaining the mod's post there?
BTW that last bit is basically a scumclaim!

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: grayfoxxx
All Alone are you srsly scumclaiming

[MarioManiac4]

WTF?
I'm a 2-shot Commuter.
I commuted last night, but still have a commute.

[MarioManiac4]

LOL You guys are cute. At least we for sure know who the last two scum are.

So you're eiher scum or blacklist worhy then.
That tone is not a town one. It's a condescnding one.
VOTE: SW

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mariomaniac4
Or not.

That moment when two of your mislynches are PRs, one is a JK who gives town an extra mislynch, then get caught by a cop.

Jk+Cop+Vig is way too powerful.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm OK with the Scum PT being released.