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In post 360, Cavane wrote:Hey CDB! I think I remember playing with you from a while back. Glad you could join us.
Indeed. Counterclaimed me as a mason in Patrick's Sicilian Mafia, if I remember correctly. I think it's just you with whom I've played before, of the living players. Nice to see a familiar face.#greenshirtthursdays-
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Town:EV, Cavane
Made almost no impression on me:Vedith, TheWorst
Scummy:Kyubey, Muffin, Anen, CMM, Liger
Ugh. I don't have anything like the number of townreads that I would normally expect for this point in a game. I wasn't even happy with townreading Banana as I read through even though I knew he was flipped town.
Obviously not all of the people listed above can be scum but that's just to give you an idea of how my reactions have fallen. On some players I have caveats, some maybe-this maybe-that, but I've disliked more than I've liked from all five.
Spoiler: Townreads on EV and Cavane
Spoiler: Kyubey is scum
Spoiler: Muffin is scum
Spoiler: Not sure about Anen; SK?
Spoiler: ConManMick
Spoiler: Liger may be scum
tl;drKyubey and Muffin are scum. Think that Anen might be the SK but not strongly enough to go SK-hunting specifically; I think in this situation our top priority should be to nail scum of any kind, and my read is stronger on the other two. We will likely need the SK to do some of our work for us after our poor start to this game.
VOTE: Kyubey#greenshirtthursdays-
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Is there any chance
like, any at all
that somebody could engage with my reads
I feel like thevery leastthat should be happening right now is people telling me whether or not they agree with me on the things I mentioned in my catchup. That's the bare minimum. Why do I feel like the only person interested in winning?#greenshirtthursdays-
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Ugggggghhghghghgh
I am more tempted than I ordinarily would be to demand that a partner substantiate your story, but it probably isn't worth it right now.
The deadline's on pause so we aren't currently in a huge rush. Can wepleaselynch Performer/Kyubey or Muffin? Please?
UNVOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Muffin#greenshirtthursdays-
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In post 416, Vedith wrote:Why would you not put the Dear Partner section in your Mason thread?
Oh, OK, I guess Vedith is scum with daytalk. Alright, then.
UNVOTE: Muffin
VOTE: Vedith#greenshirtthursdays-
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In post 421, Vedith wrote:While I've been on here, with completed games and a few I've looked through;
I've never had/seen a Mason thread that is phase only talking.
I've only had/seen 1 game with scum talking thread
Hmmm. Failure to consider experiences beyond one's own isn't a scumtell so this is plausible but I am pretty skeeved out. It fits the template of 'mafia thinks he's caught the SK in a lie' as much as it does 'town makes dangerous assumption'.
But I can see it going either way, which is more than I can say of Muffin and Performer.
UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: Muffin
PEDIT: That's a bad reason for not buying Anen's claim, though. The increased proportion of scum:town and ability to town to be whittled down more quickly in this game makes confirmable townies a potentially very important asset, and makes more town power than usual more likely than not. I'm not completely sold on Anen as a mason but I could see masons in this game.#greenshirtthursdays-
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This is me acknowledging 453; I haven't read it properly and I can't be arsed to do it right now because I've already read a bunch of game pages today and I can't summon the energy right now to reevaluate one of the only goddamn townreads that this game has given me with the open mind that it requires. I'll do it tomorrow, or maybe later tonight if I feel more up for it after dinner.#greenshirtthursdays-
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#greenshirtthursdays-
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I wish Performer had been mafia. Today would have been much easier.
I need to do a reread probably, so that I'm back in the groove of knowing who's in which slot and with the extra hindsight of mason knowledge. Coming into the Day, the only things of which I'm really confident is that I'm not touching Aneninen, and the closest thing that I have to a held-over read is Cavane town.
Also HEY WE'RE IN MYLO MAYBE SLOW DOWN WITH YOUR VOTES THERE COWBOYS#greenshirtthursdays-
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In post 630, catboi wrote:Kihihihihihi~
honestly with a 2013 join date I'd be thankful that this is the first time that you've seen this happening to me. Activity fluctuates every few months. Really doesn't have any alignment indication but feel free to wiki me if you want to confirm that#greenshirtthursdays-
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I mean, it has, I don't think I'm denying that. I don't forget things into which I'm incredibly invested.
In other news, you'll be shocked to learn that I didn't actually get around to that read tonight. So here's me drawing a line: if you haven't seen a proper catch up from me by 7pm my time tomorrow (that's BST), you have my permission to lynch me.#greenshirtthursdays-
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You don't; that's not what I'm saying. It's that patterns of sporadic activity every now and then are not alignment indicative from me (it happens as both town and scum) so it would be weird to scumread mebecauseof said lack of activity. I don't remember like anything you've said about my behaviour otherwise in this game so if you have a read based on any of that, knock yourself out.#greenshirtthursdays-
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In post 601, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I don't get the Vedith vote on CMC. I don't why he saw Mick as either the SK or scum yesterday and why he is scum reading Mick today.
This is weird as balls, you don't think it makes sense that someone might be suspicious of a slot that has lurked forthe entire game?#greenshirtthursdays-
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btw I'm posting quickly rather than doing a big catch-up because I'm in the middle of organising some afternoon/evening plans and I'm probably going to be leaving soon/not back before my 7pm deadline so this is what you're getting now. I'll finish these thoughts before bed, though, but my arbitrary deadline is biting me in the arse a bit. Don't actually lynch me kthx#greenshirtthursdays-
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The first thing in this game that makes me think that Cavane might be scum is that, with one town vote (mine) not really doing anything Today, scum haven't nudged towards a wagon of their preference. This feels like a scenario in which scum could really stranglehold things on a town wagon but that's not happened even with so little time to deadline.#greenshirtthursdays-
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I coloured up the vote counts to see if it would help. I wish we had a mafia flip but this is all we can get. I figure the Day 1 stuff must have something useful in it somewhere:
Spoiler: Day 1
Spoiler: Day 2
Not as many conclusions that we can take as we would with a scumflip but it does make me think the following:
The odds say that:
Scum pressured Bacde. Did KaiserB/Liger/EVvenomous know that he was town?
Scum piled onto the Banana lynch late. Did EVvenomous/Liger/Cavane/Mick know that he was town?
Why did Inanity die over Aneninen? This isn't really inspired by how the vote counts look so much as I remembered that scum had to choose which mason died, and that could be useful.#greenshirtthursdays-
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Kind of unclear whether this messy massclaim is happening properly, but I think we ought to just get everything out. I'm a VT.
Neighbouriser definitely seems more likely to be town than scum in this setup, especially with the lack of claims elsewhere, though I guess it's not completely out of the question. Still, not touching Dier.
Skeeved out by Mario Today.#greenshirtthursdays-
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In post 802, catboi wrote:Means they weren't performing the kill, but that's it.
Town wouldn't know that for certain.#greenshirtthursdays-
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