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In post 289, RadiantCowbells wrote:IP looks pretty towny.
No I don't. What is this read? In my first newbie game, RC called me town for no reason and he was scum.
Sorry for the low activity everyone, I'm V/LA until Sunday. I'll be following the thread but probably not posting much because posting from a phone is annoying.-
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In post 303, Frozen Angel wrote:so you have a meta read on RC? can I have a link to that game? because RC's behaviour is kind of different in this game from his other games I'm playing with him (which are all ongoing games)
It was newbie 1655, don't know how to link. You should be able to find it in my history pretty easily. But it's not even a meta read. I had only posted 4 times, none of them very substantial. Why would anyone town read me unless they knew my alignment?-
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Ok, I'm back from vacation. I've read the thread. I'm not going to do a big catch up post.
Right now I'm feeling Mathilda scum. I get bad vibes from her posts, they're overly defensive and don't seem genuine. This especially pinged me.
In post 346, Mathilda wrote:I started to then decided not to. I do understand why you and Aneninan say that. This is Day 1 so all we have to analyse is behaviour and tone. They're things to look out for but they don't build a case. I'm not interested in trying to appear town, I'm just interested in hunting out scum. If that means that I attract attention then I don't mind. It's ultimately all information for town.
Not caring how you appear to others is cool. Declaring how much you don't care how you appear to others, thus showing that you really do care, is scummy.
Post 416 is what really cinches it for me. There is no conviction behind it. There is little analysis, just statements of fact with some slight spin to make them appear scummy. It's exactly the kind of case scum would make against town. It's also the kind of case scum would make against scum. I'm still wary of RC and wouldn't want to clear him if Mathilda flips scum. I think their interaction could be bussing, neither is pushing particularly hard against the other.
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In post 558, Jake from State Farm wrote:Nobody is even talking about lynching him so this paranoid wall post of reads is very odd. The discussion was lynching Kaiser or lhix. paranoia can sometimes be a scum tell
Agreed. The only thing that changed since her last post was that I had voted for her. I don't know why that makes her think she's on the verge of being lynched, especially given how dismissive she is of my accusation in 554.-
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Firebringer's reaction to Jake is really bad here. Jake's logic is perfectly valid, though drawn out to a pretty extreme conclusion. A normal response from Fire would be something like "Oops, I misread," not arguing for pages about it. Of course, the only way Fire legitimately scum slipped is if the team is exactly Fire/Kling/Suzune which I'm not really buying. But I think there's a decent chance that Jake accidentally caught scum for the wrong reason and Fire panicked. He reads like scum who is annoyed he was caught for the wrong reason, not like town who made a mistake.-
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In post 767, Mathilda wrote:All this talk of town's scum hunting being illogical, about being absolutely sure who is scum and all that's needed now is to find the last one, all the people repeating their accusations over and over without any analysis or discussion just to try and cast enough shade ... as far as I can see is all done by the three people above. These are the ones trying to bulldoze town into lynching people of their own choice. Absolutely everyone else has tried being logical, tried discussing things and more importantly tried to help the town scum hunting process along rather than sway people's opinions just by repeating unsubstantiated feelings. This is how we achieve a correct lynch and avoid mislynches.
You're including me in this characterization? I think it's patently absurd to think I'm "trying to bulldoze town into lynching people."-
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If Zulfy's town, Mathilda's obviously town. If Zulfy's scum, Mathilda's still probably town because I don't think scum would make this claim about one of his buddies. I was suspicious of her yesterday, I'm not now.
We're not going to get anywhere in this game if we don't see a flip from Suzune or Kling, I prefer Suzune because of the earlier soft claim from Keyser which apparently only I care about.
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In post 994, Zoronos wrote:You think the current groupthink on the scum team is exactly correct? You have no doubts? What if there's a mislynch in there, what then?
No, I don't even think it's likely. But I think it's possible and it's clear that some people are never going to drop it until we lynch one of them.-
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