***Mini Normal 1744 - Country Music Mafia - Game Over***

Dwlee99 · Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:31 pm

In post 3, Diego1487 wrote:VOTE: acryon

For not confirming.

VOTE: Diego
For not noticing I hadn't confirmed yet.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:32 pm

Realizing that the mod just uses a different format for confirming and I thought I hadn't confirmed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dwlee99 · Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:32 pm

Someone post?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:04 pm

Why role play?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:14 pm

In post 25, golden009 wrote:Well, it's in his name.

Although do you really say "hey guys I'm town" with first post? That seems either noob, commited to roleplay to the point of absurdity, or sorta scummy.

I wasn't asking him why he was role playing unless claiming to be an ice cream flavor is role playing.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #29 (isolation #5) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:16 pm

In post 28, golden009 wrote:
In post 27, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 25, golden009 wrote:Well, it's in his name.

Although do you really say "hey guys I'm town" with first post? That seems either noob, commited to roleplay to the point of absurdity, or sorta scummy.

I wasn't asking him why he was role playing unless claiming to be an ice cream flavor is role playing.

So what you're saying is that we're on the same page?

Yup. Very.. odd of them.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #31 (isolation #6) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:19 pm

OMGUS
VOTE: Roleplay

Dwlee99 · Post Post #33 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:29 pm

In post 32, golden009 wrote:Yeah, at this point, I feel more comfortable with voting Roleplay than
8100|)|(!|\\|6 (Bloodking)
. UNVOTE: Blo0dk1ng However, I'll wait until Roleplay actually reveals his reasoning on his scumtells (besides talkative=scum, which is a classic noob mistake) to vote him out. Remember, we've got two weeks. Anything can happen.

What. ???

And yea, I agree. But may the OMGUS be with us.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #36 (isolation #8) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:37 pm

In post 35, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey guys, I'm town.

This RC makes me scared. Can I borrow your bear so I can become not scared?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #38 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:44 pm

Let's all just treat RC like an innocent child and move on with our days, shall we?
In all seriousness I don't think scum would claim town because that just attracts cops and what'not.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #40 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:19 pm

Roleplay voted me, therefore they are scum.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #55 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:42 am

When I read roleplay's posts I read the exclamation marks and it makes me cringe from the super heroy voice. You voted me, roleplay. Anyone voting town is automagically scum. Trust me, I am a doctor.
Good to see ya keyser. Are you town or naw?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:06 am

You do dare. ;O

Dwlee99 · Post Post #64 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:19 am

Keyser you didnt dare what the heck man.
Offense taken acryon

And dang L-1 this game is gonna be exciting
Actually..
VOTE: Roleplay
Hammer time. o3o

Dwlee99 · Post Post #66 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:23 am

Love when people make vote counts and ruin my reaction tests. ffssss

Dwlee99 · Post Post #71 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:41 am

Oj that was l-2. And Ik I already voted that is the point of faking a hammer to see people's reactions
And maybe they would scum claim in twilight. *shrug emoticon*
I have been super obsessed with reaction tests lately. But trying to convince people that you hammered when you already voted doesnt work when the mod posts a vote count. ;-;

Dwlee99 · Post Post #74 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:10 am

LOL KEYSER. My dad loves that show omfg lmao. And then he starts snoring and I chanfe it bbut apparently he is awake.
And I am getting a reaction out of you, arent I, neumune? But sometimes people might be like "Wtf I didnt even do anything this alwayd happens when I am scum!" or something. You dont need to be rude just because I decided to reaction test a little.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #78 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:44 am

Ooh mario made a case. Fancy.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #84 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:58 am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLPLOLOL.
FIRST. WHY WOULD YOU OUT IT.
AND TWO. LOLOL Yea I am not claiming doc. ;P (or am I!?!?!?!)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #86 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:11 am

i like the town read not the OMGUS one. I hadnt looked at the player list except for keyser (which is why I ind actually). So yea idk about that reason
The wiki needs to be updated as it is not a scum tell at allll.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #87 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:12 am

omgus reason*

Dwlee99 · Post Post #89 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:18 am

This guy. Now people are pointing out more stuff stop it guys you are ruining the plan.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #91 (isolation #22) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:23 am

Well trying to thwart a townies plans makes you the villian, no?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #93 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:44 am

Chocanry..?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #97 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:21 am

No one posts before reading the entire thread so my reaction test got screwed up by jake posting a vote count. Just to make it clear (not that it really matters) but I actually thought it was L-1 but knew that I had already voted.
Cow, what does that dash mean?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #99 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:27 am

What part of the post that I made do you agree with, acryon?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #106 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:40 am

Okie cool acryon.
Golden, you said you would like to ask me about my test.. but you dont??

Dwlee99 · Post Post #108 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:42 am

You didnt ask me about it, that is.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #111 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:48 am

For reactions. Youd be surprised at how many people make bah posts. Like town might say "Why would you lynch me I was a cop!!!" or something.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #118 (isolation #29) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:25 am

Just realized that your join date is 2012, wut goldiee?

And one time a townie in a game I replaced into claimed cop in twilight and flipped vt. It is kind of similiar.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #123 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:31 am

Yup, pretty much, rc. In all seriousness you gonna play or naw?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #126 (isolation #31) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:58 am

You bring up a good point. Why were they looking for the doctor soft? (Which it might be who knows?)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #129 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:13 am

My spidey senses are tingling. They tell me Rc might be a vig.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #134 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:14 pm

When you begin to townread cow for saying the bad and you should feel bad thing because my brother says it a lot. lol

Dwlee99 · Post Post #137 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 135, TheCow wrote:
In post 134, Dwlee99 wrote:When you begin to townread cow for saying the bad and you should feel bad thing because my brother says it a lot. lol

Are you townleaning me because I'm townie, or because of a meme?

I am not actually town reading you completely I just got town vibes because I am obsessed with memes.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #152 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:31 pm

Wait when the heck did rc make a fake dayvig post on me? I missed that somehow?
Also I find goldiee's looking for his name in that list is odd but not enough for a vote yet. Just marking it for noww.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #155 (isolation #36) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:47 pm

Thanks. And no one attacked her reaction testing but when I do it I am evil? lawl k

Dwlee99 · Post Post #160 (isolation #37) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:39 pm

Associative tells between cool and goldie. Super differentiates by whether noob town or scum based on alignment that he knows?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #165 (isolation #38) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:09 pm

A sea bear attack , rc.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #177 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:05 am

This Keyser is almost definitely town.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #179 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:20 am

Rc was reaction testing, I like that. But they havent done much scum hunting it seems.
I hate how null rc is being. Oh you never answered my question, rc, you gonna play or naw?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #182 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:58 am

You didnt pass the dayvig one. But I have a town read on you so idk. Most of the time I dont have criteria like "town do this scum do this" . If I hardly figure out my own tests I cant figure out RCs.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #188 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:00 am

In post 185, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 179, Dwlee99 wrote:Rc was reaction testing, I like that.
In post 182, Dwlee99 wrote:You didnt pass the dayvig one. But I have a town read on you so idk.

This makes sense

Are you saying these tests were null-indicative.........

Then how can you "like" them?

It is a factor that can point to scum, but it isnt definite by any means. It is like any other tell.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #196 (isolation #43) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:25 am

I actually hate roleplay's style, bji, it is distracting af.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #213 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:25 am

I know of people who coach people and those who follow the coaching are better town, those who dont are scum. Using it as a case is weak af

Dwlee99 · Post Post #218 (isolation #45) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:04 am

This guy is a haschel hedrichson alt.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #238 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:01 am

In post 219, RolePlay25 wrote:
In post 216, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 215, RolePlay25 wrote:It equals more information!

Yes, activity is good. I want to hear your reads and arguments,
but
if your scum-read/case is based on someone else being uncomfirmed-scum... it loses my interest for D1

If we get a scum-flip, it's a different story.

Can you point to anything scum-indicative that does not rely on
supercool898 being scum
?

Yes I can! I told you, I strongly dislike how Supercool has spent today largely posting speculation that does not reflect whether I am good or evil! It is a convenient mechanism for avoiding commenting while posting more than our friends Diego and Bloodking, who are generating attention through their own absence!

Additionally! His latest reads list is an improvement, but only marginally so!
You are active, therefore you are town.
Dwlee is active, therefore he is town. No one is calling for bji to die, therefore he is town, but there's a trapdoor there. Also from the edit, which I assume is based on the "new post" screen you receive after hitting submit (am I correct?) it took him four hours to assemble that post! Does that feel like a four hour post? To me it does not. That is a long time to spend for a post that contains very little. After speculating on me the entire game, he cannot read me! He forgot what he wanted to write about Neumune, since his speculation stops in the middle! Instead of organic, this appears heavily contrived.

It appears his primary tool for locating evil guys is volume of posts. This is convenient! Post volume is a hard fact that cannot be questioned! If you have not posted much you have a low one! MarioMaker must post more to become even more good! But could not evil use that to simply kill people with low post volumes? Although in any mystery we must inevitably eliminate suspects who do not appear, I am not so quick as to say that those who speak are those who are good and those who do not are those who are evil.

He has rolled over, sat up, and begged on your command! Does his obedience and the results make him good or evil for you?

I do not dislike Golden's death. But killing supercool would to me more likely yield the death of a villain.

Vote: Supercool

Why did no one point out how incorrect that statement is?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #246 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:48 am

In post 239, supercool898 wrote:
In post 238, Dwlee99 wrote:Why did no one point out how incorrect that statement is?

It was supposed to be sarcasm.

That is not sarcasm. He goes on to make multiple points using that thinking.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #254 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:19 pm

In post 247, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 246, Dwlee99 wrote:That is not sarcasm. He goes on to make multiple points using that thinking.

RolePlay25 was accusing supercool898 of possessing the following read logic:
High activity/good questions = town
Not being scum read = town
Low content/activity = null/scum-lean

Oh, I'm bad at understanding things.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #257 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:59 pm

Bji is town, their read lists are decent.
You are town as I've said.
RC is most likely town (mainly cause of their swaggy reaction test

)
Roleplay is annoying me. They are mainly null though. Their playstyle just bugs me a lot.
Supercool bothers me because of him finding my "doctor claim" which I don't understand why they are looking for softs like that and revealing it is bad.

That's all I have at the moment. I'm having trouble finding scum, I can hopefully just use PoE or something for that.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #270 (isolation #50) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:02 am

UNVOTE:
I am trying to get them out of the null but considering some have hardly posted I am having problems.
Gonna try and decide on a vote by lunch.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #288 (isolation #51) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:42 am

I stopped reading roleplays posts because they take too long to read especially with the wording lol

Dwlee99 · Post Post #313 (isolation #52) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:57 am

Understanding is muchhh more different than agreeing with
I can understand where people are coming from saying I should go outside more. Do I agree? No.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #320 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:40 am

Bji is town.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #323 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:20 am

In post 321, acryon wrote:
In post 320, Dwlee99 wrote:Bji is town.

I'm inclined to agree. Who is not town dwlee?

My only real scum read atm is Supercool.

Forgot to place my vote earlier
VOTE: Supercool

Dwlee99 · Post Post #349 (isolation #55) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:23 am

Rc why do you do this..
That post wasn't even remotely scummy.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #359 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:28 am

By that post I was referring to neu's post and saying I dont think it is scummy.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #372 (isolation #57) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:33 am

VOTE: Bloodking

That contradiction is absolutely awful regarding me.
Especially the this could be town or scum part.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #376 (isolation #58) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:39 am

Who are you talking to, roleplay?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #378 (isolation #59) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:43 am

Not even a p-edit for me, roleplay?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #408 (isolation #60) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:33 am

Keyser is reinforcing my thoughts of him as town.
Normally he makes those charts in scum chats not in the thread.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #415 (isolation #61) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:08 am

In post 410, acryon wrote:
In post 408, Dwlee99 wrote:Keyser is reinforcing my thoughts of him as town.
Normally he makes those charts in scum chats not in the thread.

How many times have you played with him? I'm generally against using meta, especially if it's based on a small sample size.

once lol

Dwlee99 · Post Post #419 (isolation #62) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:48 am

In post 416, Neumune wrote:Didn't you say he did it "normally" as scum?

As scum he doesn't post that list in the public thread. I played with him and he never did anything like that but each night he posted in the scum chat with stuff similar to those walls about people.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #421 (isolation #63) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:06 pm

Someone likes my hammer! FINALLY.
Where have I repeated myself, though?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #423 (isolation #64) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:28 pm

In post 422, TheCow wrote:You've restated reads a few times. Is this because you forget that you've mentioned them before, or are you reaffirming them?

Reaffirming my reads. Like my keyser town read has been evolving the entire game.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #426 (isolation #65) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:42 pm

The only other part of your case is "fluff" which was mainly my RVS stuff.
I agree on supercool, though He's been one of my scum reads for a while now.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #440 (isolation #66) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:49 pm

By declaring you dont intend to lynch dont you remove any "pressure" your vote carries? I am interested in this because I havent seen anyone ever do this sort of thing but it has happened a butt ton in this game.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #442 (isolation #67) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Dwlee99 · Post Post #444 (isolation #68) » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:08 pm

In post 443, RolePlay25 wrote:
In post 433, TheCow wrote:I don't have intent to lynch at this time.

In that, I must observe that any information and pressure generated may only be generated through a genuine killing intent.

Perceive, for example, the vote of Ancyon on me. Does it have any killing intent? Indeed it does not. Nor did his vote on Golden. What flavor of pressure does it therefore place on me? Am I in danger? Was Golden in danger? Or are are the words and the wishes of Ancyon as meaningful as the whistling of the wind through the trees, as threatening as the song of a bird?

Golden reacted more strongly to the
suggestion
that I might place a vote upon him than the
reality
of Ancyon's vote. Because Golden knows for a fact that when a gentlemen states his intention, it is not with ulterior motive, it is not deceptive, it is not some meaningless tripe. If I place my vote on Golden, it will be for the single, sole intention to bring about the reality of his death, and I shall labor with every cell in my body to make such a death occur. And if that direction should look for but an instant more likely to yield the death of a villain, then I would discard the thin veneer of civilization and hunt him by day as we are hunted by night.

Are you a gentleman or a knave? I wish your pledge that you slip into a coma and are awakened by the news that sir Bloodking has been selected for death, that your first thought shall be "they have done good in my absence". I wish your word to be matched to your deed. I wish as three more join us, and I hold in that wish the desire for you to share it.

The first and second paragraph ^-^

Dwlee99 · Post Post #452 (isolation #69) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:53 am

RVS is a completely different thing Keyser.
My point is more that when you pressure someone with vote you shouldnt declare that you dont want to lynch them. Being unsure doesnt mean you should remove whatever pressure your vote had.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #455 (isolation #70) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:44 am

No. If they dont defend themselves we are lynching them.
"...and from your wagon evolved golden009's wagon.

Now, how many of those respective votes had 'intent to kill'?"
That was an Rvs wagon iirc.

The VCA screwed my reaction test because if I hammered then why would the vc right after it not show a hammer? The reactions about my reaction test were something, though, albeit nothing I can do anything with yet.

Pedit: Supercool, not having a problem with =/= liking. Also, what about putting at L-1 for a claim?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #459 (isolation #71) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:16 am

"IIRC"

Apparently I didnt remember correctly
And if they dont defend themselves why would they replace out?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #463 (isolation #72) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:55 am

Technically someone could post filler forever and never defend themselves.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #466 (isolation #73) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:13 am

You doubt they would defend themselves but you think they would replace out?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #471 (isolation #74) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:00 am

Dwlee99 · Post Post #492 (isolation #75) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:45 pm

Mala, you don't like two of my posts but then you like the one and town read me for it?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #504 (isolation #76) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:50 am

Bji, are you scum reading me?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #508 (isolation #77) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:59 am

What does that last pargraph have to do with anything? Think of what like that, mario?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #510 (isolation #78) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:56 am

Why would scum no-kill? o.O

Dwlee99 · Post Post #513 (isolation #79) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:16 am

Ayyy, keyser you were right.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #517 (isolation #80) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:22 am

Hello frozen.

And why do you think I'm only participating enough to look interested? What in my posting makes that seem like that's the case? You're saying things but not providing any evidence.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #530 (isolation #81) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:39 pm

UNVOTE:

Forgot to unvote when they replaced in.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #533 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:52 pm

In post 532, TheCow wrote:"Benefit of the doubt" is a phrase..

As a 'murican can confirm.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #541 (isolation #83) » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:56 pm

I'm sure they do, supercool.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #544 (isolation #84) » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:14 pm

When the game is dying. :/

Dwlee99 · Post Post #562 (isolation #85) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:31 am

I did but mala's response seemed really honest and iirc it was directed at bji.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #703 (isolation #86) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:19 am

I got really emotional when I was bussed in my newbie game because I wasnt able to tell my partner to back the f off and to stop tunnelling me. I was really mad about it. I see some similarities. I think that frozen is always this emotional so I think it may be null-indicactive.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #708 (isolation #87) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:56 pm

VOTE: Frozen
Thought about it a bit, this is kind of self-meta but I did this same thing my first scum game. It was because of bussing as well but I will get to that if frozen flips scum.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #734 (isolation #88) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:32 pm

RC makes me want to punch them out of the game.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #743 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:54 am

Yes, I am, FA.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #747 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:11 am

You going to actually make a case on Keyser or just scream that they are scum, rc?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #754 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:47 am

Wasnt 1737 justified? Where keyser was scum? I axtually se a lot if differences in play from scum keyser to right now.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #757 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:58 am

Oh.
And keyser is referring to earlier wagons, no current ones rc

Dwlee99 · Post Post #761 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:29 am

But it is easier to compare to my own games. If you link a scum game of yours I will look at it, though. Oh and give me a town game too please

Dwlee99 · Post Post #764 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:39 am

Nah just what I expect scum to act like when bussed. I will look through those when I get home.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #779 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:29 am

Why are you leaving the FA wagon so soon, roleplay? :/

Dwlee99 · Post Post #784 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:19 am

I feel like Acryon's questions to keyser are crap.
Just the "why didnt you answer the question" post after, as keyser said, is a non-question.
I also do not like the "looking bad before flips" thing.

P-edit: Then why didnt you just ask that then, acryon.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #794 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:07 am

In post 786, acryon wrote:
In post 784, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like Acryon's questions to keyser are crap.
Just the "why didnt you answer the question" post after, as keyser said, is a non-question.
I also do not like the "looking bad before flips" thing.

P-edit: Then why didnt you just ask that then, acryon.

Because the way I asked it was more interesting. It gave us a reaction and I was still able to follow up more directly. But I also don't understand how it was a non-question. You don't have to be a genius to read between the lines and understand what I am getting at. This game is all about getting information directly and indirectly through reactions. If I can do both with one question, why wouldn't I?

And for the record, it was Keyser who actually told RC to look at the wagons to develop reads...

Well both of you are wrong about the wagon thing, then.
And I an sticking to my keyser read.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #798 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:40 am

Gut + Meta.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #917 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:06 am

Roleplay and FA were mortal enemies but now they are both voting for acry? umm..
The bussing theory before flips is really bad but then they both fight together for an acry lynch.
I am going to keep my vote on FA

Dwlee99 · Post Post #919 (isolation #100) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:12 am

Crap I need to find those links to the FA games.

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:17 pm

In post 945, bji wrote:Normal queue does not require 10 town and 3 scum as far as I know. The ratios can be different.

I know this because of the discussion beginning here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6646580.

What was the last mini-normal that didn't have 10 town and 3 scum? Seriously, think about it.

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:29 pm

Because your interactions with FA are terrible, Roleplay, and I'm not sure if I want to lynch FA or Acryon.

You going hard onto them and then suddenly siding with them onto acryon makes absolutely no sense.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #963 (isolation #103) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:00 pm

In post 917, Dwlee99 wrote:Roleplay and FA were mortal enemies but now they are both voting for acry? umm..
The bussing theory before flips is really bad but then they both fight together for an acry lynch.
I am going to keep my vote on FA

^

I already mentioned it, roleplay.
I can't recall your reasons off the top of my head, I just remember them not being particularly convincing.

I don't think it is completely Acryon or FA but it looks like it is our best shot at hitting scum.
Supercool is still on my scum reads but not as much as Acry / FA.
And what do you mean "Why your town read?"

Dwlee99 · Post Post #968 (isolation #104) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:42 pm

In post 964, RolePlay25 wrote:
In post 963, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 917, Dwlee99 wrote:Roleplay and FA were mortal enemies but now they are both voting for acry? umm..
The bussing theory before flips is really bad but then they both fight together for an acry lynch.
I am going to keep my vote on FA

^

I already mentioned it, roleplay.
I can't recall your reasons off the top of my head, I just remember them not being particularly convincing.

I don't think it is completely Acryon or FA but it looks like it is our best shot at hitting scum.
Supercool is still on my scum reads but not as much as Acry / FA.
And what do you mean "Why your town read?"

You did not mention them. You mentioned that my vote moved. This is a fact. I mislike those who can do little other than parrot facts.

As for your "scum" read of Supercool, you did not list him as a possible lynch today. Speaking of, when did your scum read of Acryon occur?

When did I make a list of possible lynches today?
And my scum read of acryon occurred when he completely went after bji's theory which tbh is bad before flips but I'm unsure now because you completely flipped your read on FA on its head and started voting acroyn with FA.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #970 (isolation #105) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:54 pm

In post 969, RolePlay25 wrote:

In post 953, Dwlee99 wrote:Because your interactions with FA are terrible, Roleplay, and I'm not sure if I want to lynch FA or Acryon.

You going hard onto them and then suddenly siding with them onto acryon makes absolutely no sense.

Is that so.

?

And no, I don't think they're bussing. I have individual scum reads I am trying to bring into associations. It just seems really awkward that acryon would completely buy bji's theory which I can't wrap my head around being true by itself until your interactions with FA completely turned around.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #972 (isolation #106) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:43 pm

In post 962, RolePlay25 wrote:Hmmm, actually, you know what, fuck it.

Friend BJI, there is a difference between style and substance. In this sort of mystery, there are very few things that are substance. Discussion of setups? Not substance! Discussion of "how to play mafia"? Not substance! Missives about your life, what you like to be called, the price of tea in china? Not substance! Summaries of the events of the game? Not substance!
Lists of players organized with colors? Not substance!

In fact, there is truly only one thing of substance - a vote. And with that substance, comes the activity surrounding that substance. I say to you, RadiantCowbells has given more substance than Acryon. A naked vote is worth more than five empty paragraphs. One who removes the impact of one's vote has no substance at all.

There is a truism in mafia that you must understand. Good seeks evil. Evil does not seek good, evil knows good! Evil seeks survival!

An emotional breakdown is neutral. It is a reflection of character, of personality! And what does FallenAngel do during that? Does she retreat to survival as an instinct? Does she lash out, seeking to discredit her attacker? Feel the pit looming and throw a vote like a weapon? No. She seeks evil. As votes pile up on her, she seeks evil.

Predators? Predators seek weakness. Cull the weak by day, kill the strong by night. An ancient formula. Wait in the bushes until you see one of the herd struggle, stumble, falter. Then pounce!

Her substance? She seeks evil. The votes upon her? Predatory. My verdict? I mislike killing her. There are most certainly much better choices.

Pfttt lmao

Dwlee99 · Post Post #974 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:54 pm

In post 973, RolePlay25 wrote:I am happy in the sudden increase in content Dwlee is providing. It is a nice change of pace.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #976 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:58 pm

Sadly you can't convince me to change my vote without trying to convince me that acryon is more likely to flip scum than FA. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dwlee99 · Post Post #979 (isolation #109) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:18 pm

If only I was as sure as you, roleplay.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #980 (isolation #110) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:20 pm

Titus where do you stand on bji's theory?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #988 (isolation #111) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:58 pm

In post 981, Frozen Angel wrote:Dweele where do you stands on my theory?

Supercool - Acry

I scum read both of them individually. I do not see the interactions, though.

Roleplay, I need you to answer why you unvoted FA (which you never responded to my question about your unvote.)
And put it simply so I dont need to use a dictionary to understand half the stuff you said.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #990 (isolation #112) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:08 pm

Hey, more pre-flip associations! HOW FUN!

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:53 am

In post 995, Titus wrote:
In post 980, Dwlee99 wrote:Titus where do you stand on bji's theory?

What theory?

"Roleplay is bussing frozen"?

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:57 am

It is the interactions with roleplay. Just realized that requires I think roleplay is scum so nvm.
UNVOTE: Fa
VOTE: Acryon

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:58 am

And true.

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:21 am

Roleplay is town, fa is null and supercool is still scum.

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:22 am

^ @keyser

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:59 am

I will switch to supercool after VC to prevent an accidental hammer.

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:18 am

VOTE: Supercool

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:22 am

Oh yea, L-1. I didnt think to announce it, mb.
But you are just now commenting on the fake hammer?

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:36 am

K bjo.

And we need an angel for this christmas miracle! (*cheesy tv studio laughing*)

Dwlee99 · Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:05 pm

In post 1175, golden009 wrote:Explain why I have two votes? I'm voting the read that I've had since page 2. In addition, I never suspected supercool and wasn't even on that wagon.

I cant understand why you think being off the wagon makes you town?

Dwlee99 · Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:12 pm

No duh titus? alt.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:02 am

In post 1197, MarioManiac4 wrote:I'm not even sure what the VC is.
But it's not like RC hasn't lied about being cop before as town

we are lynching thus if titus flips scum.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:52 am

You said you dont want titus at l-1, right, RC? How many votes are there on titus?

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:54 am

VOTE: Titus

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:35 pm

lol rc. So good.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:47 pm

If titus flips scum we're lynching Mario and Bji, now, sweet.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:12 pm

In post 1250, bji wrote:
In post 1249, RadiantCowbells wrote:BTW, you're correct when you said I'm stalling.

I'm stalling to read you, BJI. no other reason.

Yeah. I don't believe that either.

In post 1246, Dwlee99 wrote:If titus flips scum we're lynching Mario and Bji, now, sweet.

Why are you so eager to line up lynches for tomorrow and the next day? And based off of what evidence? RC's easy-to-see-through farce and my obviously fake claim?

Your interactions with titus. It's absolute garbage if they are scum. I'm lynching the claimed guilty over the claimed cop first for obvious reasons.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:00 pm

Someone would of countered by now, golden.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:08 am

UNVOTE: Titus]
Wtf rc. -.-
Someone could of counterclaimed or something.. outted cop for nothing.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:30 am

In post 1307, MarioManiac4 wrote:VOTE: golden
Really, RC?
I've seen that you fakeclaimed cop in a New York and did not completely trust it here, but seeing as it is D2 and we have no advantage I thought you wouldn't fakeclaim here.

What do you mean by "we have no advantage"

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:07 pm

Pffff bji.

Lynch all liars is bullshit and you know it.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:09 pm

In post 1286, Frozen Angel wrote:I won't hard claim my role. But RC is town.

And FA claims to have a town result on RC.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:21 pm

In post 1324, bji wrote:
In post 1322, Dwlee99 wrote:Pffff bji.

Lynch all liars is bullshit and you know it.

Is it? It's what I've been told over and over again by more experienced players. Town lying generally can only create confusion and sow doubt, so town generally doesn't lie. If the outcome of the lie is demonstrably positive for town, then I guess that could be considered a mitigating factor. But I'm failing to see the positive outcome of RC's actions in this game.

Doctor lynched? Check.
Soak up everyone's time Day 2 discussing a fake claim? Check.

pedit: Where does FA claim that?

I quoted it.

Lynch all Liars is an over-generalization. There are so many factors to consider, as you mentioned. RC seems to have gotten something out of the fake claim, it might work out.

P-edit: $#%^^$%$^&%$#%$^^$#%$#%!#$!@$$$

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:27 pm

In post 1329, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1328, bji wrote:
In post 1325, Frozen Angel wrote:
I just knew RC was not the cop. I don't know if he is town or not as an information ... I just felt his act makes him likely town [ sorry ]

Please explain. How does RC's act "make him likely town"?

Do you think that fake claims are in general town behavior?

Have you ever fake claimed as town (and not at L-1, I mean unprompted like that)?

Well first I wasn't thinking properly. I played with scum RC before. He won't risk that attention on himself when he is scum.

no. but their no alignment indicative.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=63853

What are you trying to show us in that link??

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:35 pm

In post 1333, RadiantCowbells wrote:
And let me reiterate: I am not a mafia godfather, or a mafia anything. That was my attempt, perhaps ill-conceived, to point out how ridiculous RC's cop claim was. And it was ridiculous, and I think that's obvious; why would a real cop ask that nobody put the supposedly fingered target at L-1? Why would a real cop ask that everyone wait until some "reads" are posted before lynching the target, and so obviously string us along by giving excuses instead of the reads? RC would have already had his reads ready to go if he really was cop and knew he was going to out himself. And why would a real cop out themselves immediately at the beginning of day 2? Such a transparent fake claim.

pedit: I believe town fake claims happen. Your example is evidence of that. But what you describe is very different from what RC did. RC's claim had the chance of getting someone lynched. RC couldn't control whether or not a quicklynch could result from that. So he must have at least been OK with Titus being lynched. Now, if he's not a real cop and doesn't know whether or not Titus is scum, then that's a pretty risky chance to take. And now after the fact he's claiming that he actively didn't want Titus lynched. That's inconsistent. At least pick your top scum read. That seems like the most rational way to do it. And finally, after all of that, what could RC expect the best outcome to be? That some truth would present itself that would help town make the best lynch choice? And that this truth would be crystal clear for town even though it was pulled through the mud of a fake claim and the associated fear and doubt?

These are contradictory.

I actually sorta wanna lynch BJI in spite of myself now.

Calling that contradictory is stretching, rc.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:41 pm

I thought you were referring to his "claim". I see about the claim thing.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:41 pm

quicklynch thing**

Dwlee99 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:17 am

Just claim, frozen.

Dwlee99 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:45 pm

I am leaning town on RC, roleplay.

Dwlee99 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:34 pm

*pulls out popcorn*

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:14 am

I am soo confused rn. Rc, do you seriously think I was softing doc? It is a meme.

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:18 am

Can you explain why in a concise paragraph please?

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:20 am

Why I should trust you and vote titus

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:25 am

So for information? What do you think the chances of her flipping scum are in your opinion?
pedit explain pls

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:35 am

Ill trust you on this, rc.
VOTE: Titus

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:59 am

I am confused af regarding this game so I am just sheeping you for now You seem to know anout what the flipa will mean so I think you are right.

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:23 am

wait I put them at l-1?
UNVOTE: Titus

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:28 am

And do what?

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:35 am

Oh I thought I brought them to l-1.
VOTE: Titus

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:25 am

Lynch all liars is stupid, I dont want to see the fa lynch.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:43 pm

So we're not going to listen or even take into consideration ANYTHING RC said??

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:45 pm

So the only reason is being wrong about a slot ??
Or is there more.?

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:52 pm

Not feeling it.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:56 pm

No clue as I am currently lost in everything

I kind of want to lynch mario just because rc said to.

Dwlee99 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:05 pm

I could directly listen to rc anf lynch mm or indurectly and sheep you cause you are a town read of theirs.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:07 am

They never really aid why, mm. They just saivyou were scum.

Dwlee99 · Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:02 pm

In post 1926, Malakittens wrote:He got force replaced for being a prick.

^

Dwlee99 · Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:04 am

I think that the argument that fa is making a smokescreen is a bad argument because I played in a game where a townie got accused of the same thing.
Acryon, explain your mm read. Or are you just sheeping rc?

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:08 am

Are you actually calling me a lurker? Uhmm what?

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:06 pm

In post 1960, bji wrote:
In post 1959, Frozen Angel wrote:

@Dwlee99
: You've got 162 posts, and yet I can't recall you ever making a significant contribution. You have had votes all over the place, and without a lot of explanation for any of them. Since the beginning of Day 2, you've done nothing but sheep RC, even doing so after RC is dead. Explain exactly why you are so ready to sheep RC? And, do you have a strong feeling about anyone besides whoever RC was most suspicious of?

I trust RC's ability to scumhunt, and I don't have many strong feelings. You're probably town from this post and I think frozen is town (but I guess that's RCs read), no one else makes any impression on me.

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:32 pm

In post 1962, bji wrote:
In post 1961, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1960, bji wrote:
In post 1959, Frozen Angel wrote:

@Dwlee99
: You've got 162 posts, and yet I can't recall you ever making a significant contribution. You have had votes all over the place, and without a lot of explanation for any of them. Since the beginning of Day 2, you've done nothing but sheep RC, even doing so after RC is dead. Explain exactly why you are so ready to sheep RC? And, do you have a strong feeling about anyone besides whoever RC was most suspicious of?

I trust RC's ability to scumhunt, and I don't have many strong feelings. You're probably town from this post and I think frozen is town (but I guess that's RCs read), no one else makes any impression on me.

This late in the game, this is all you have? A single post of mine makes you think I'm town, you're sheeping RC on his read of FA (and apparently MM), and you have no opinions on anyone else? You're clearly lurking and just posting enough to make it look like you are not.

UNVOTE: Malakittens
VOTE: Dwlee

Wtf else do I have to base a read off of? I am struggling to get reads on everyone because no one is fricking talking, including yourself.

Dwlee99 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:56 pm

In post 1964, bji wrote:
In post 1963, Dwlee99 wrote:
Wtf else do I have to base a read off of? I am struggling to get reads on everyone because no one is fricking talking, including yourself.

Let's all take note that Dwlee doesn't think that 79 pages of content is enough to form his own reads.

I am talking about today. >.<

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:07 pm

Ugh this game is so confusing any help?

Dwlee99 · Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:14 pm

The entire game is like 4 people atm.

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:54 am

I wonder if itlpip read his iso and decided he wouldnt play.

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:16 am

Oh yea I forget about that stuff cause I have no life.

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:26 am

I am going to post enough times just so that doesnt happen. That is like a whole day wasted mm.

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:33 am

Oh yea people have lives. I am doing nothing today so I assume no one else is either.

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:43 am

Bahahahha mario

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:43 am

And that wall iis so sheep worthy.

Dwlee99 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:47 am

VOTE: Thecow

Dwlee99 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:50 pm

Will we get an active person or naw?

Dwlee99 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:09 pm

Cow is at L-2.
No one has claimed anything.

Dwlee99 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:09 pm

Actually, just remembered FA claimed VT. That is it.

Dwlee99 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:54 pm

Who has posted? lmao

Dwlee99 · Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:31 am

In post 2040, Aquanim wrote:

@Dwlee99

Who would you lynch today besides TheCow and why (remembering there are 3 scum)? Please don't make an associative case.
Also I'd like a specific opinion on Golden.

I would lynch mario just because of RC's want to but their recent posts seem decently townie and they agree with me on cow and maybe acryon because I'm town reading FA and they want them lynched.

Golden is just null cause they don't have enough posts to actually get a read.

Dwlee99 · Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:59 pm

In post 2057, Aquanim wrote:
In post 2053, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2040, Aquanim wrote:

@Dwlee99

Who would you lynch today besides TheCow and why (remembering there are 3 scum)? Please don't make an associative case.
Also I'd like a specific opinion on Golden.

I would lynch mario just because of RC's want to but their recent posts seem decently townie and they agree with me on cow and maybe acryon because I'm town reading FA and they want them lynched.

Golden is just null cause they don't have enough posts to actually get a read.

So you want to lynch Mario because RadiantCowbells wanted to, except you are reassessing that read now and think Mario is town? That sequence of thoughts doesn't seem to add up to somebody you want lynched.

Can you come up with any others?

I trust RC's reads but mm is with me on cow. Everything is kind of conflicting.

Dwlee99 · Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:37 pm

Ongoing.

Dwlee99 · Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:52 am

When youre pretty sure you dream about mafia.. ok.
Anyway independent if cow would leave me thinking mario is null but sheeping rc puts him into scum.

Dwlee99 · Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:50 am

I hardly call it a 1 v 1 when only one of those people is talking, marcrell.

Dwlee99 · Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:42 pm

Isn't there a way to delete it? lol

Dwlee99 · Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:21 pm

So who do you think is most likely to be scjm atm marcwll?

Dwlee99 · Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:10 am

This game is just stalling so much because of the lack of a replacement for golden.

Dwlee99 · Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:18 am

Welp at least we have no deadline because of it lmao

Dwlee99 · Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:55 am

In post 2122, acryon wrote:
In post 2121, Dwlee99 wrote:Welp at least we have no deadline because of it lmao

Hey dwlee, a couple questions for you:

1) Why are you not voting Mario? You seemed content with sheeping RC earlier, but now you've sort of drifted off of it?

2) You talked about how this game is stalling more than once, yet the majority of your posts seem to be sheeping others and talking about how you're confused. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution. You've talked about how town RP was. What do you think about Aqua so far?

3) Have you actually been trying to scumhunt? If you think so, give me a few examples.

Mario agrees w/ me on cow's slot being scummy af.
I think aqua is really townie. Theor posts feel really genuine and they want to get reads.
Yea I have been scumhunting. I probably should reread or something though so I can refresh my minds on some slots because I am having massive brainfarts rn.

Dwlee99 · Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:21 am

I can determine if it is a bus tomorrow.

Dwlee99 · Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:28 am

Can you link me to your case, fa? I want to read it again.

Dwlee99 · Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:27 am

Can you quote some posts or something??

Dwlee99 · Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:47 am

In post 1757, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1756, acryon wrote:
In post 1755, Frozen Angel wrote:
ITS NOT INCREDIBLY LIKELY. its just as probable as for any other two pairs.

It is not. If we are looking at just the set of people we have with 0 information, then of course it's the same, but this isn't just a statistic game and you know that. You have both done things that are actively anti-town, but your responses in general have been worse and there is less damage if we are wrong about you, so it goes to you.

This is scum. VOTE: Acryon

I really can't see you as town. your reason for this is "WE have no information about others so scum must be between you two" Whats the meaning of scum hunting then?

why my response in general was been worse? why you think lynching someone you say its a probable mis lynch is "less damage" and therefor justified?

if you want to lynch me you need better reasons than those two you already provided. the fact you can't even think about finding scum and just want to lynch between me and RC is another thing I must add to your scum case.

In post 1759, Frozen Angel wrote:- you said its not a static game and you have less information about others so you think one of us must be scum because of that. You said its very very likely.

although I agree with the first part but its not town motivated to just accept that the slots you have more information about are more likly scum. I might be a littel overreacting becuase I know I'm not scum and I'm town reading RC. I don't know.

- But you never provided proof about it. LAL and RP tunnel are your reasons. first is suggesting a policy lynch , second is absurd so you have nothing make me a probable scum lynch.

- No I'm not kidding. your not scum hunting. you never did in this whole damn game. your talking about probabilities and right choices based on the information everyone else brings for you. your distanced and your just assuming things the way you want them too.

In post 1767, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1766, acryon wrote:Like I said before FA, I simply can't accept that you softclaimed because you were drunk. If that were true, then it's essentially you playing against your wincon (sober or not) and this game is screwed anyway. So my only choice is to ignore that point on principle, and move forward with what we have, which I believe points to you being scum.

THE FU.. THIS IS POLICY LYNCHING. I really don't care to be lynched today because I screwed it up. BUT I'm concerned why your not calling it a policy lynch.

I DID SOMETHING THAT I'M ASHAMED OF RIGHT NOW. you want to do your shit? do it! I really don't care.

In post 1901, Frozen Angel wrote:I have valid reasons to believe Acryon is scum. He tried to just wagon me in day1 and finish it. He really tried hard to role fish in day 2. REALLY REALLY hard. He really tried to imply one of me and RC are scum just because of the fake claims. and he tried to show there are more reasons.

I won't change my vote today at all. consider it fixed on Acryon.

About you and RP I think I really hate all your ISO when I'm looking at that. Your conspiracy theory about me and RP being scum in day 1 make me think the way Acryon accepted that means your his partner. plus last day you were the shared scum read of all the town firmed dead players. and plus you never even commented about anything Acryon related.

that being said I think your scum

and don't you dare call this omgus ...

In post 1916, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1915, MarioManiac4 wrote:I don't think your case on arc is good.
You're saying he's scum for role fish ing when IIRC you had already drawn the NK. Trying hard to lynch you isn't scummy, I'm town and I've done that with golden.

that a quiet misrepresention of what happened. I soft claimed something. he pushed for the Claim. the only town reason for that is when you were the town pR who knew it couldn't been a valid claim - which explains RC push.

Acryon couldn't had any valid reason for the things he did in day 2.

He tried to imply that there is surely 1 scum between me and RC - which was a logical fallacy.

In post 1921, Frozen Angel wrote:1 - I wanted the NK. that's something town can't understand. its scum WIFOM. why should a town player wants to think about scums night kill?

2 - siriously?! It was obvious his push will end up with a claim. He did that to reach a claim.

3 - I can see the logic of RC lynch. I can't see the logic he used to show there is surly one scum between me and RC. His awkward play day 2 wasn't town aligned. I can't accept that.

Know I'm considering an MM lynch as well.

In post 1967, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm seriously disappointed in this town. all the posts I see are from the ones who I think are probable scums and dweele.

I was reading both Super and Acryon as scums then and yeah I found its very probable to both of them being scum. I just made a mistake about what super was trying to hide. (I said I'm sure your nervous and you have something to hide - like several times)

and I posted my reasons TODAY why are you going back to day 1? he DEFINETLY role fished in day 2. he DEFINITELY just hide behind you to get a lynch done. and he DEFINITELY started to use logical fallacies to show me and RC both scums.

In post 1982, Frozen Angel wrote:I literally don't care about what RC claimed about his results in night. I'm sure his result was titus as vanilla. RC TURNED TO BE A ROLE COP AND HE STARTED LAST DAY PUSHING TITUS. YEAH I'M SURE SCUM THOUGHT TITUS IS SOME PR THING or why should they kill the one who RC was wagoning so hard before his death?

I don't feel to talk about the obvious scum again. you can read his ISO since the start. he tried to stay away from danger. He just wagoned me for no damn reason in day 1 (hiding behind you) He started his day 2 by pushing me and RC to solve town PR's . ITS NOT TOWN MINDSET TO DO THAT. that will only kill town PR's. he tried to justify that by saying things like "one of them must be scum" and "I know your dead at night anyway, so full claim please" It was obvious one of me and RC is not really a town investigator and He wanted to solve that.

Why should he want to solve that?! helping scum? yeah. He is scum.

His last day was I like to vote FA more but yeah RC thing is not bad. He was just ordering mislynches. The fact he didn't pushed me today is another funny things. HE WAS SURE ONE OF ME / RC WAS SCUM LAST DAY. what changed since then?

I'm town and that's scum who tried to organize mislynches.

I dont think them wanting the claim is alignment indicative because that is a matter of opinion. Idk about setting up the "rc or fa is scum" thing.
We dont have your flip though.

Dwlee99 · Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:11 am

So
false dilemma
lal
Oppurtunistic?

Dwlee99 · Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:36 am

The first two things I listed are not alignment indicative, imo.
But I see the point regarding their no longer scum reading you. It is interesting.

Dwlee99 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:20 pm

What is it then, aqua?
Who is town wjo is scum or os it tvt?

Dwlee99 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:30 am

I find the acryon c frozen fairly unconcincing

Dwlee99 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:12 pm

I'd probably go towards town, dier. I'm liking aqua right now, as well.

Dwlee99 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:42 am

I can unvote although it is in spirit.
UNVOTE: Marcrell

Dwlee99 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:50 am

Meh. The reasons are the same, really. Both have been inactive slots that havent done much scumhunting. Malas sudden town read of ne a litrle whileback was interestinf but I dont know what to make of it alignment wise.

Dwlee99 · Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:11 am

In post 2303, Malakittens wrote:I been townreading you Dwlee for the whole game. Why is it all of a sudden interesting?
I have also been scum reading the cow slot for a while. Mostly gut and stuff that was pinging while I was reading along.

You have? I just remember you walking in like "FROZDN AND DWLEE ARE TOWN" and didnt think about what happened in other days.