Mini 1747: Cinnamon Roll Mafia Endgame
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Swords wagon: Vote one is me, RVS (13). I didn't personally mean anything by it other than the usual random voting, so k00l i guess. Hawke votes for Swords in retaliation for 24 (25). This is Hawke's second retaliatory rvs vote. Soap votes Swords in what I think is RVS. toolenduso votes for the sake of "waggins" (33)
hawk wagon: davesaz RVS vote. Cool. The u s u a l (11), Syndesis jumps on, looks like RVS -- no vote reason given (12). Guessing she wanted to move along with the random wagons, get things going. Something like that. Swords then votes in RVS --at this time there is no Swords wagon(24). Moosy sheeps the hawke wagon, citing Syndesis (though the citation was put forward in a joking manner) (30, 31)
Regarding hawke: first post was all like "hey guys, I'm new but not new lets have fun". Cool. Immediately jumps off of RVS soap and jumps onto Syndesis for what (I think is) fake OMGUS (14). Syndesis (jokingly) asks people to sheep onto the wagon and what not, hawke takes it seriously. Assumes the reason is the whole OMGUS thing (which isn't mentioned in Syndesis' post) (16)(20). Odd he isn't fighting a legitimate reason or whatever, but could have just been the tone or something, idk this guy -- never played with him before. Anyway, moving on. Hakwe jumps ship again and moves over to Moosy. This is not a very defensive maneuver at all, rather a more aggressive one (64).
Okay, after thinking through this, I have some theories, but I need a bit of info first. How good of a scum player is Hawke? His game sense? I haven't played with him, so I wouldn't know this detail -- kind of key for my theory.-
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k gonna break this up for my own sanity. So to begin with, the hawke wagon looks legit. I think its at L-2 or 1 right now, so I'm not gonna touch it yet just to be safe. What I don't like is all of this revoting. Always revoting to a player already on the wagon but switching it up. So as I said, the Swords wagon was the "safe" choice, since it was about equal in size, but then he switched over to moosy. My guess is that he switched wagons to preemptively board what would be a wagon.
Several players were asking others for thoughts on that specific player, so would it be too much of a stretch to think that this player would soon become a wagon? No, I don't believe so.
Anyway, I don't see why questions of this sort are being asked. Personally, I use that sort of deal to fearmonger as town or to "fluff" as scum. I don't see where this is going.
Moosy is a solid null, though. He's joking around in ways that touch on the game tangentially and I like that -- though it isn't alignment indicative.-
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In post 98, hawkleader3 wrote:Thank god. Claim time. My claim................is jailkeeper. That's why I was nervous before. I didn't want to be suspected of killed easily on the first day before my powers were put to good use. Oh well. It seems as if it's no use. I deal with pressure, I get voted on. I ignore pressure, I get voted on. So now it seems like everyone's just trying to find out who my scum partner is at this point because it's confirmed I'm scum. If this doesn't change your mind, I'm afraid nothing will.
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Open498 - A total of four posts before replacement. Fire Goon. Punctuation is different, phrasing is different, etc. Latest game before leaving the site. No introduction post.
Micro280 - 12 posts before replacement. Town aligned.
hawkleader3 wrote:Hello guys, I always like to give a short introduction of myself at the start of the game because I feel weird not doing it. I am hawkleader3, but you may call me by any name that pops into your head at the moment or whatever is easiest to type (Hawk, HL3, Hawkleader, Confucius, etc.). I have played a total of 3.5 newbie games (.5 was when I replaced in as scum but the town got a perfect win. The game ended in a week), but since then, I have been off of this site for a good 6 months, so this could be considered my return. This is my first micro game thus also being my first game using this setup (which I think I will like BTW) and I wish everyone the best of luck.
Game lines up.
N1360(SE) - 26 posts. Town. Survived to endgame. Another introduction post. asdf asdf asdf too bored
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Hawk, you've been on mobile for much of this game, I presume? I'd keep going but I'm damn lazy. Everything lines up with town!hawk. I'd recommend an unvote.-
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In post 185, Syndesis wrote:Swords is only a site-newbie, IIRC?
He has like a year experience off-site of forum mafia.
In post 191, iraonavp wrote:In post 190, Syndesis wrote:I mean, I get frustrated when people push me without a case as either alignment, so that might be just null. That said, scum caught for the wrong reasons also tend to get frustrated, but I've seen no sign of that so far.
I feel that his response has constituted more than just frustration, in particular premature defensiveness. His repeated insistence that you explain your vote, and that an unexplained accusation cannot be responded to, show how much he wants to answer your accusation to prevent his wagon from progressing any further.
In post 147, FA_Q2 wrote:You should but you are going to need more than a naked vote to do so.
By all means - construct a case.
Additionally, in posts like this tone is somewhat passive-aggressive, and I believe he is attempting to hide his frustration. This makes me think that FA_Q2 is perhaps trying to hide his fear of being voted which is even greater than he is letting on.
meh case very unconvinced
In post 195, MoosyDoosy wrote:In post 184, toolenduso wrote:Moosy that strategy makes no sense. If he is scum fakeclaiming then leaving him alive means we might actually end up with a more clear indication that he's fakeclaiming, and then we lynch him. In the meantime we lynch somebody else, hopefully somebody who's scum. If he is town then lynching him means we've lynched a friggin' PR and we get no benefit from that PR at all.
I don't really expect you to listen to me because that doesn't seem to be your style, so how about we worry about this if anybody else is actually interested in lynching hawk.
Spoiler: ISO reads
Too few scumreads right now, which could be a product of scum being in {metrion, chaotic, sword}, but I expect this to improve as we go along.
Right now I think dave looks bad. May do some meta work on him, but only so as to find out whether he also posts like this as town...when I tried to look for patterns that could indicate scum or town in meta work in my last game, it didn't go so well.
VOTE: dave
Exactly. It's because hawk is solved over time that we should kill him right now as that makes the most sense.
what you huh no what why what pls
As for the reads in the above quote, gonna just give my thoughts in a second when I reread them...
Meh. I don't like read walls. I guess these are passable for prelim reads.
In post 215, hawkleader3 wrote:Spoiler:
Let me know if anyone has any questions about my reads. Thanks for your patience. This took way longer than expected. Hahaha
ye I'm probably just biased against early reads, because these are mehhhhhhh too
In post 220, Syndesis wrote:Uh, just for the record, none of my page 1 posts were serious.
The fact you have to specify this astounds me.
In post 239, davesaz wrote:We've had a good amount of fireworks with the Hawk runup and claim. I think we should be looking for subtle opportunism getting onto that wagon.
I intend on doing this when I get a chance.
What's the point of a question like this?
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moosy is pinging me lost and confused newb town, but I'll research that and see what I get.
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not really but i probably have to later-
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In post 289, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:Let's discuss Scum Moosy. He's super scum. Why is he still alive?
If you want to dayvig him, be my guest.
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I was right about the claim being fake :lbj
Swords was probs a vig shot. Mafia couldn't have seen him as a NK, and NK has no reason to hunt a quickhammerer like that. Besides, he never claimed PR, so the hake attack made more sense. JK means it'd be our TP and be exposed.
So ye, mafia, vig respectively.-
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