Mini 1763 - Game OV

[InsidiousLemons]

VOTE: KainTepes
Capital letters oh boy

[InsidiousLemons]

VOTE: KainTepes
Capital letters oh boy

YOU GOT A PROBLEM?? I AM JUST VERY AGGRESSIVE

Please tell me this isn't going to go on all game.

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I suppose we'll see the legitimacy of that claim

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Katsuki, iron, and Townie haven't posted so far.
Game solved.

I've got it -- they're all confirmed masons

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VOTE: KainTepes
Capital letters oh boy

Why cant I remove the quote from my posts???

Because I'm so stuck on you

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Perhaps joining a Newbie game would've been a good idea

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I see. Yeah, here on MS when someone hits the amount of votes required for a lynch (7 currently), they're dead. No discussion or take-backsies. That usually happens at L-1.

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Well I suppose there's twilight, which is the time it takes for the mod to respond to the thread after a lynch, but the point is that there's no opportunity to defend yourself after a majority vote has been reached.

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Why are you so eager to attack Garmr for what was clearfly a joke?

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Hmm. It appears I forgot about iraonavp.
I looked him up and fortunately there's meta on him as well as other players in that game, who're in this game:
forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64581

Indeed so. This is why I strongly believe that Soapbar is town-aligned in this game.

Can you offer a bit of insight into this? What kind of meta is it that makes you think 3 pages of nothing looks strongly town-sided?

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I don't like where Kain is going. It started off as humorous but he's being really really aggressive with no actual case on anyone. It feels like flailing as someone else who I can't bother to go look for mentioned, but I can't

quite

bring myself to think he's scum just yet -- so far he mostly seems like a panicky newbie. I'm leaving now, I'll be back in 12ish hours to post some more

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He is the wagon I like the most though, since he's the only actual substantial wagon at this point, so my vote stays where it is.

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He is the wagon I like the most though, since he's the only actual substantial wagon at this point, so my vote stays where it is.

Would you say that you agree with the arguments raised by MarioManiac4 in 79?

For the most part, yes. However, I can also easily write these reasons off as newbtown for the most part, which is why I'm not convinced quite yet. He does seem to be getting more antsy as the pressure increases though, which, at 4(?) votes is not really justified. Again though, might just be panicky newbtown.

Hmm. It appears I forgot about iraonavp.
I looked him up and fortunately there's meta on him as well as other players in that game, who're in this game:
forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64581

Indeed so. This is why I strongly believe that Soapbar is town-aligned in this game.

Can you offer a bit of insight into this? What kind of meta is it that makes you think 3 pages of nothing looks strongly town-sided?

It's a feeling which may be difficult to quantify, but still a strong one. He sounds completely different here to how he sounded in the other game.

I don't like this. In Mini 1747, which is the game I assume you're referring to as it's his only scum game that I could find, he had this to say:

VOTE: Swordsworth

Swordsworth, FA_Q2, Hawk Scum team GG WP boys

I know it isn't much, but you can clearly see the similarities in his post style from game to game. Plus, this is the only post that Soapbar made before actual cases started being built. I'm not saying I think he's scum, he posted like this in his town games too, just that you can't base a town read in RVS off of something like this, especially when it's

also something he does as scum.

P-Edit: KT continues to use AtE, or is just... sad, I guess? Don't stop posting though, posting is literally the only way the game can progress.

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Hmm. It appears I forgot about iraonavp.
I looked him up and fortunately there's meta on him as well as other players in that game, who're in this game:
forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64581

Indeed so. This is why I strongly believe that Soapbar is town-aligned in this game.

Can you offer a bit of insight into this? What kind of meta is it that makes you think 3 pages of nothing looks strongly town-sided?

It's a feeling which may be difficult to quantify, but still a strong one. He sounds completely different here to how he sounded in the other game.

I don't like this. In Mini 1747, which is the game I assume you're referring to as it's his only scum game that I could find, he had this to say:

VOTE: Swordsworth

Swordsworth, FA_Q2, Hawk Scum team GG WP boys

I know it isn't much, but you can clearly see the similarities in his post style from game to game. Plus, this is the only post that Soapbar made before actual cases started being built. I'm not saying I think he's scum, he posted like this in his town games too, just that you can't base a town read in RVS off of something like this, especially when it's

also something he does as scum.

The rest of Soapbar's play in that game felt rather stiff (see the very next post in his 1747 ISO!), but here he's engaging in conversation in a way that feels markedly more fluid.

And there's still a gut-ish aspect of how I'm reading Soapbar as confirmed town-aligned which I haven't adequately expressed, so it's not like that's the only reason.

Is there something wrong here, though? Do you think either Soapbar or I are scum-aligned?

Not really. I just don't think "gut" and "confirmed" can go together in a sentence. I don't like how firm you were being in your belief of something with little confirmation.

Okay, if it makes you feel better then maybe I caught you for the wrong reasons!

What is this? Can you outline a little better how you feel about MarioManiac? The only case you seem to have on him is "The Kain wagon is bad and you should feel bad, stop using buzzwords." Why didn't you respond properly to his defence?

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THIS BOONSKIIES THINKS THE LEADING WAGON IS EASY MISLYNCH ON A VI WHO'S PROBABLY 14

THIS BOONSKIIES HAS CAUGHT SCUM

VOTE: PERFORMER

THIS BOONSKIIES WISHES FOR BOONSKIIES TO JOIN THIS BOONSKIIES ON THIS RIGHTEOUS WAGON

What's your case on Performer (who hasn't posted in 2 pages)?

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What's your case on Performer (who hasn't posted in 2 pages)?

FIRSTLY WHAT DOES 2 PAGES HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING????

I'm saying he hasn't done much in between your first post and now. What's changed in that time to make you want to vote him?

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Kain is definitely under 14

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InsidiousLemons, are you satisfied with the current position of your vote?

Not really, no. Despite the fact that Kain is easily aggravated and seems not to have much idea what he's doing, I don't think he's scum. I don't really like the way that Boonskiies and Katsuki are interacting, but I feel like it's a bit ballsy as a scum move. Still though, I don't like Boon's general lack of activity, so I suppose I'll
VOTE: Boonskiies

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Not even activity really, he just seems rather apathetic and unwilling to talk about much.

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@FA: Agreed for the most part, though I prefer Boon at the moment.

@Mod: Can we get a votecount? It's been 2 days and a lot has been happening

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I have found one thing that gives me concern from rc but I want to see how that plays out since no one really mentioned it.

If you wanted to let it play out before acting on it, why would you even bring it up?

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I don't know that that's true. I think he's likely to take a look back to try and see what you were talking about, and as a result may play more carefully than he otherwise would have.

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Fair enough. I look forward to whatever this slip/mistake/oddity allegedly was.

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Not_Mafia replaces TOWNIE247.

Welcome, Not_Mafia. I can't recall ever playing with you. Thoughts on anything?
I seem to recall your predecessor claimed 1-shot Bulletproof for no reason? Why?

When did this happen? As far as I can see TOWNIE247 never even posted once.

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Not_Mafia replaces TOWNIE247.

Welcome, Not_Mafia. I can't recall ever playing with you. Thoughts on anything?
I seem to recall your predecessor claimed 1-shot Bulletproof for no reason? Why?

When did this happen? As far as I can see TOWNIE247 never even posted once.

Joined : January 29, 2014

VOTE: InsidiousLemons

I've played 4 games total. Sue me.

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Not_Mafia replaces TOWNIE247.

Welcome, Not_Mafia. I can't recall ever playing with you. Thoughts on anything?
I seem to recall your predecessor claimed 1-shot Bulletproof for no reason? Why?

When did this happen? As far as I can see TOWNIE247 never even posted once.

Joined : January 29, 2014

VOTE: InsidiousLemons

I've played 4 games total. Sue me.

$1 000 000 please

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>Brief interaction between NotMafia and Performer
>Lapsa has a mild scumread on Performer, but does not vote for him nor does he mention NM's side of the interaction at all
>NotMafia makes

one short, additional post about me,

and then also restates his vote for me for some reason
>Lapsa immediately switches votes onto NotMafia without explanation

I don't like this. The vibe I'm getting is a sort of chainsaw-y one, but that doesn't make much sense as we've barely all game. VOTE: Lapsa

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*barely interacted all game^

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Still like my vote.

MarioManiac4 - town

InsidiousLemons
FA_Q2
Soapbar

Katsuki - town
iraonavp - town from last page. he got me to change my mind, but idk if it's biased because he talked about me.
Garmr - I like what he's been saying. I don't see scum incentive to say what he did about me.
KainTepes - Meh, town.
RadiantCowbells - I think this I RC's Town game. If he RC's it up in upcoming days, i'll town it.
Not_Mafia - I liked his posts on Lemons. I'm leaning town.
Performer - I like voting here. Performer's given me absolutely no town vibes.
Lapsa - indifferent.

Haven't paid enough attention to Lemons/Fa/Soap

Why is EVERYONE town?? It looks like you are just scum trying to get on town's good side by calling everyone town!!!

VOTE: BOONSKIES

Boonskies and RADIANTCOWBEALLS ARE MOST SUSPICIOUS RIGHT NOW

VOTE: Boon

Make him talk.

I don't like this sequence of events. I wasn't a huge fan of RC keeping his vote on Lapsa for the sake of stubbornness either, but to switch at that precise moment feels like a move made by someone who wants to be unnecessarily provocative rather than participating. VOTE: RadiantCowbells

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Oh Jesus sorry guys catching up now

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Meh, I'm alright with the FA wagon. Let's see where this goes. VOTE: FA_Q2