Mini 1782 Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

can we policy lynch kaintepes?

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pre-vote Jake from State Farm

forced, apologetic, etc. gogogo

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VOTE: APF

Sketchy as hell.

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I'm pretty sure APF is scum and it's only page 2.

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Hi, FA!

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All in all, no case at all. What was interesting though was that The plain farmer commented right after mhs's 'suspicious' post, so he obviously read it, but only found it suspicious after Lowell called it out.

This reasoning is bad for the record.
It's pretty common to just not think it was bad until someone points out stuff you hadn't seen.
That said, still think APF is scum for other reasons.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey FA I'm going to bus you pls.
DW I get huge towncredz and carry.

VOTE: FA

[RadiantCowbells]

Like always? D:
I've never bussed you before!
This is a first for both of us.

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wait what? explain that.

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VOTE: FA

For real. FA just slipped.
The point of her previous post was that we are suspicious that each other are scum.

But we're always suspicious that we are eachother buddy . aren't we?

When she was implying that she was suspicious that I was scum she implied using 'each other's buddy'.
As in she's suspicious that I'm her buddy; as in she's scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

anyway i liked your response right now.

You can be town for now.

I wish I could say the same about you?

Why you gotta be a scumbutt FA </3

[RadiantCowbells]

omg I hate when you do that.

How did you come up with 'each other's buddies' to refer to us as scum?

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How does my 'vote' on you make you feel?

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No, I don't want to upset you omg stahpp.
If it makes you feel better I really really do want you to be on my side this game.

What are your reads so far?

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Except there's no townslip in #62?

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I want to understand how you're feeling because the way you emotionally react as town is markedly different from how you react as scum.

what was different about me telling we are buddies and you saying lets buss each other?

I read your post as
'Concerned about being scum' written as 'Concerned about being buddies' which I read as you slipping scum.

I do like your reaction because I would expect something different as scum but it might just be you making playstyle changes unrelated.

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no that's not what I mean urgh.

I don't want to air emotional baggage here but what I really hate is that I say mean shit to you over mafia games and you take it to heart.

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I'm not upset with you I'm upset with myself.

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FA please get on skype?

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APF's pushes feel really disingenuous and the page 2 declaring people confscum shit is just awful.
If he's town and this is actually his scumhunting then I think town is better off without him anyway.

I really don't think FA's scum atm.

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APF's pushes feel really disingenuous and the page 2 declaring people confscum shit is just awful.

If he's town and this is actually his scumhunting then I think town is better off without him anyway.

I really don't think FA's scum atm.

(my bold)

This is super weak. I haven't read APF's posts as close to a push, I agree with Roshar in 44 but that's why I'm basically disregarding what APF's saying. It doesn't seem to be meant to be taken seriously.

I'm more worried about the pushes against APF, particularly RC but also Roshar.

It's not about any

pushing

, it's about the way he's talking like an idiot suggesting that people are confscum on the second page.
Most games that I've lost as town have been either due to tunnelers who can't reconsider things or to scum disguising themselves as tunnelers and getting away with it.
I'm going to policy lynch anyone who does that shit.

is there anything about RC alarming you

or just the fact he is always scum?

shh its ok when I bus you I'll get all the towncredz.

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I'm saying that being way too certain about reads is a scumtell and if they're not scum they're not people you want to have around.

In this instance I think that APF is scum.

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One big thing I know about is

Spoiler:

Frozen Angel's brain.

I find it weird how Roshar basically regurgitated my points and is calling me scum.

Editted because regular spoiler tags are unallowed. (People have to use the quote button to read them on mobile; that becomes annoying).
~Ircher

[RadiantCowbells]

There's a difference between pretty sure and outright stating that people are scum and claiming people as scumpartners.

I am capable of revisiting and rethinking my reads. Apparently most people aren't.

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I can find you an example of me using the very similar phrasing of a very similar thing when I was talking to Titus in a previous game.
In fact if I was scum I'd be way more likely to specifically say 'town' there if FA wasn't on my team. I insert reminders that I'm town constantly as scum.

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If you had any actual idea how to read me you'd be fairly sure I'm scum at this point.

If I were scum everyone in this game would have me as their #1 townread at this point.

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fairly sure I'm town*

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I'm not yelling at people that I want to yell at because I'm trying to be nice.

But people are being hella dumb rn.

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{Maverick, JFSF, Roshar}

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Except I think that there's a decent chance that Roshar at least is scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Stop talking to me.

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I have absolutely no difficulties responding to pressure as scum.

I'm sick of dealing with this crap as town. I am town. lay off.

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You are one of the people who, if I were scum, would have an unshakable townread on me the entire game because you can't read through any lines.
If I were scum I'd have absolutely no issue coming up with a wallpost of reasons why Roshar is scum.
FA wouldn't townread me for that and neither should you, so in the end you're wasting your time because that's not how you sort me.

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I agree that you've done fairly well in the past.
I also think that Jake would have fairly good odds of being able to sort me which is why I N1ed him in our last game.

But that doesn't change the fact that I really don't feel like dealing with this atm.

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I don't make cases on people until I'm like 90% sure they're scum.
So you're going to have to wait for that.
Short answer is I don't like the way he talks, he's spent way more time talking about stuff in general than scumhunting, and there's some horrible playing both sides and waffling, especially when he was responding to 124.

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That's what I was talking about, yeah.

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When did Lowell say you were town?

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Saw it, nvm.

I want to pressure this.

VOTE: Roshar

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VOTE: roshar

This guy is barely holding it together and we've just started. Come do this with me and watch this poor rube flail. His ISO reeks of careful scum... already, somehow.

Also clumsy's ham-handed "omg how many scum are there guyz" is the worst fake-townslip I've seen in a while. which is saying something.

maverick is town.

There, RC.

And fair enough, but I can't read your gut. Any scumreads further than Roshar?

Did you know I as either alignment could provide a massive damning case on anyone in this game?

Don't scum or townread people based on the cases they provide or the reasoning they provide. Scum or townread them based on their motivations and how they do things.

[RadiantCowbells]

would the real slim shady please stand up?

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Wait what the fucK?

Nos why are you ban dodging?

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p7727028

Oh sorry my bad. Didn't realize the 3 weeks had expired.

[RadiantCowbells]

2 weeks, sorry.

LLD, not Pirate Mollie.

[RadiantCowbells]

u stahpit LLD.

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It's a joke

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I don't like Froot Loop's commenting on 'usefulness to town' as if it's a synonym for 'towniness.'

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Then what was the point of your last post?

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Does 262 feel super chainsawy to anyone else?

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@Frozen you're constant pointing out things you find weird but never commenting on them is really annoying. You've been doing that to RC for a while now too. What is your read on him?

when I called something weird and didn't comment on it?

about RC I'm conflicted though ... I'm working on a read on him but his earlier play make no sense as his town/scum game ...

null slight town maybe

For the record, I've been town every time you've said that I don't feel like either of my games.

Correct?

[RadiantCowbells]

Why do you say I can be manipulative? D:

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Yeah, but there's never really a good reason to townread me.
I mean even the kind of emotionally manipulative shit I shy away from now I pulled out in the VLG game.
So yeah, I lie about reasons that people should townread me. Would it be more helpful if I told the truth and just said 'nah whatever I've done so far I could've done as scum'?

I do what it takes to get correctly townread, and if that means fudging truths then so be it.

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I think that FA would be more inclinced to write me off as town here, especially since she's getting scumread for her indecisiveness.

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Read scumread as attacked, FA!scum doesn't like being attacked. she omguses and changes her views and stuff.

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It means explicitly Lowell in this game as scum.

I really, really want to powerlynch APF atm if it weren't for the fact that I wanted to in 1757 and he was town.

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Like all your posts are so fucking distant and neutral toned, you spend 99% of your time IIOAing, the questions you ask have obvious answers, you waffled like hell and still voted Shadowwez, like wtf.

What's your actual read on me? Why?

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VOTE: JFSF

Not dealing with someone with that attitude, regardless of alignment.

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Nos, why were you the top scumhunter in 192 and universally townread and producing tons of content but this game you're playing really reactionary and not really doing anything?

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Like if you're town you can do way better than this.

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VOTE: Shadow

This is scum I'm pretty sure.

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Growing scumlean on Jake. Normally I consider brashness to be a town tell, but I'm getting a bit of a panic-vibe.

you're taking reads pretty lightly this game it seems

Nos if you're not going to play this game properly I'm going to vote you.
There's a few things you've said that make me think that you're town but I'm not going to defend you if you're not going to do crap.
What are your reads on myself, Shadow, FA? Who are your major scum/townreads outside of that group?

[RadiantCowbells]

Similar situation to Nosferatu where I'm leaning town on him but his play is pissing me off.

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I need to make copies of the work I'm doing atm.
I'll look out for this later.

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Where's your Shadow read Nos?

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VOTE: Nosferatu

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You are more than capable of scumhunting and are not scumhunting.
So either you're scum or you're not making an effort and I'm fine lynching you either way.

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K nos let's make a deal.

You actually make an effort in this game and if you have good reasons to TR shadow and scum read whoever I'll vote them with you.

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FA, I could see Jake scum but don't want to lynch him today.

Who is your biggest scumread besides him? Make a case for me please!

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No rush. I'd also prefer not Nosferatu because I'm not really scumreading him/her.

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FA is town. stop jake.

no time for this game atm.

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Jake if you continue pushing FA I will lynch you for the sake of her mental health.

I think you're probably town but I know for a fact FA is town. stop.

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STOP PLS FA.
Jake seriously the fuck.
Do you think the mod makes a 'stop talking to each other' post if FA isn't town?

Like the mod basically modslipped that FA is fucking town. leave her alone.

I'll literally wagon anything that isn't in my townpile atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh hello Mr. RC is intolerable need to modkill him I will never play in his games but I replace into them anyway.

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Replace me please.

And like I hate pisskop's guts but this isn't even about him here.

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Fuck it before I replace

PK is conftown for the way the mods dealt with the replacement.
Nosferatu I've been going off on but (s)he's town.
Jeanne is town as well.

Don't lynch any of those people ever this game.

Shadow is still my major scumread.

GL

[RadiantCowbells]

I actually find Jake not getting force replaced as well incredibly suspect and I was townreading him at one point but I'd look into that.

[RadiantCowbells]

GL town.

NOW replacing out