Mini Normal 1814 Machiavellian Mafia (Game Over)

[MariaR]

I haven't dismissed anyone's thoughts I think the statement you made is BS I take everyone's (besides Gerry) thoughts into mind and it's how my reads are

[MariaR]

I meant during the day I assume mafia had chat at night because that makes sense if I was looking for a traitor that'd be to vague imo

[MariaR]

I don't really think I can be partners with anyone to be frank lol

[MariaR]

I need one other person to help lynch gerry I know yoshi will unless his reads have done the biggest 180 ever so Mich Zap Ira would any of the 3 of you even think about lynching Gerry?

[MariaR]

I'm a town 2-shot commuter, vote Zap's ass now.

IS EVERYONE A FUCKING PR IN THIS GAME. also what does this mean? can someone explain? im still rereading so if someone explained already then ignore this

No one can target you with ANYTHING the night you use it

[MariaR]

I meant during the day I assume mafia had chat at night because that makes sense if I was looking for a traitor that'd be to vague imo

But if mafia doesn't have daytalk where you usually play, then why would you even think daytalk exist?

This isn't my first game on this site

[MariaR]

I go into detail because it breaks rules

[MariaR]

can't*

[MariaR]

since my reads are apparently bad to you two:

Listen. Nero you think I can only be maf with BYF correct?

Maria You think I can only be maf with Zap correct?

BYF, who do you think i can be teamed with? I'm really not sure of your reads. It might be my fault since I've been tunneling you this whole time.

Sable TRs me but thinks a small possibility I can be teamed with zap if there happens to be a role blocker that happened to be on elyse at the same time elyse happened to be on zap (which is like 1% lol)

Ira TRs me

Zap TRs me

is this correct?

You're mafia with BYF or Zap

[MariaR]

MAYBE Nero but I highly doubt it (the only thing that makes me want to sus him is the claim and the dw push but I wouldn't lynch him over byf or zap with that self vote)

[MariaR]

The reason I asked that question was I thought if the set up didn't say "Scum have day talk" then day talk wasn't a thing

[MariaR]

Fair enough it's more the role thing then the push but if I had to make a lynch order

Gerry>Zap>BYF>Nero

Pedit: THIS GUY

[MariaR]

It's not really a sr on nero more so it's like "Okay you're all that's left"

[MariaR]

I think I may just hammer since it doesn't seem like I can get Gerry or Zap lynched today so i'll wait a bit but I guess

Intent

[MariaR]

Did a quick re read and I think i'm okay with this

VOTE: BYF

The other lynch choice that is on the table is Nero and I'd strongly pref not

[MariaR]

I had him as too scummy to be scum but as I said I'm chainsaw lynching BYF Zap and You Gerry so let's start!

Are you shocked I hammered your maybe partner

[MariaR]

This could be an attempt to make it look like they aren't partners, maybe. idk. I still kinda think Maria is dumb town tho for the senseless tunnel on me.

DUMB TOWN OKAY

[MariaR]

"Distancing partner" COOL INFO GERRY

[MariaR]

B A C K T R A C K I N G 1 0 1

[MariaR]

Gerry trying to set himself up I see

[MariaR]

I feel like Gerry is a role cop and found out Nero's role and insta wanted him lynched it's a stretch but it's what I'm thinking

[MariaR]

I feel like Gerry is a role cop and found out Nero's role and insta wanted him lynched it's a stretch but it's what I'm thinking

OH HOW CONVENIENT YOU SAY THIS AFTER THE DAY HAS BEEN HAMMERED. WOW WHAT GREAT READS MARIA.

Just stating what I think Gerry just like you're doing right!

PEDIT: LMFAOOOOOOOOOO THIS GUY

[MariaR]

Wait serious question, is mafia allowed to no kill? Cause I could be framed that way

Do I need ANYMORE PROOF???????

[MariaR]

Okay first of all that's the biggest dumb tell PLEASE TELL ME HOW TOWN WOULD ASK IF MAFIA CAN NK WHEN HE'S PLAYED BEFORE "I can be framed!"

[MariaR]

I dare anyone to defend that line by gerry I just said ANYONE

Pedit: BSSSSSSSS

[MariaR]

HE KEEPS TRYING TO PLAY THIS NOOB CARD AND DUMBTELL TO HELL WHEN NO ONE IS THAT STUPID NOOB TO A SITE OR NOT

[MariaR]

Fake fake fake fake fake

[MariaR]

You've got blinders on, Maria. There's no reason to assume a townie or scum newbie would know whether scum are allowed to no-kill if they've never played on this site before.

HE'S PLAYED BEFORE ON A DIF SITE WHAT MAFIA SITE WOULDN'T LET YOU NK?????????

[MariaR]

That mood swing was so random please ate harder Gerry

[MariaR]

Gerry's scum game is so fucking pathetic he can only ate and try to play dumb to win dear god

Pedit: Not now Nero

[MariaR]

"I'm gonna come in and Ate and dumbtell my way to a win because I have 0 chance of winning any other way because I suck"

[MariaR]

The guy who "doesn't know what a nk is and is getting framed!" Is better then me I guess!

[MariaR]

Gerry when you flip red heres a tip for next time: Don't try to dumbtell and oh I don't know: Try to play well

[MariaR]

I'm just gonna stop posting before I take things to far (and i'm very close)

[MariaR]

Thank you Nero (probably) for being the only sensible person in this game

[MariaR]

O SHOOTS AND LADDERS

[MariaR]

*glares intensely at the thread lock thing waiting for flip*

[MariaR]

Any advice or criticism for how I played my first game?

Can't comment until I see your flip

[MariaR]

>Doesn't know if mafia can NK or not but knows what lyncher is

??????

[MariaR]

>Doesn't know if mafia can NK or not but knows what lyncher is

??????

There is a lyncher where I'm from. And I looked it up after BYF mentioned it day 2 i believe.

Fair enough

[MariaR]

Do I c a SLIP

[MariaR]

Why do you want my approval o-o

[MariaR]

Townreading/not scumreading is different then defending someone

[MariaR]

What quote last page? And I thought you already didn't want to play with me are you not done with me already is this the start of a new friendship!

[MariaR]

This could be an attempt to make it look like they aren't partners,

^
someone knows BYF will flip scum.

Like Gerry knowing that BYF will flip scum before the mod write up is inside info

*knows that BYF will flip scum before the mod write up.

INSIDE INFORMATION

You are calling him town pre flip!

lol ok. which one is it?

@maria

He's saying you're doing all 3

[MariaR]

i mean in that they will prob lynch me tomorrow and im town so

[MariaR]

Dumb town isn't being civil but w/e i'll stop

[MariaR]

Didn't see that coming

[MariaR]

Now can we lynch Gerry

[MariaR]

Why am I appealing to Zap

[MariaR]

VOTE: Gerry

I just mafia can't bliz me if I'm somehow horribly wrong

[MariaR]

It'll be four to lynch anyway. So scum can't hammer and win with just one townie voting wrong. So at least there's that.

I don't fucking know, Maria. All bets are off for me now. I was convinced that you, ira and Gerry were all town. I have to be wrong about at least one. It could be you. I thought they were all pretty fucking good reasons so if I have to dismiss one then how do I know which reason I need to dismiss?

Listen Gerry has been playing the noob card the whole game and people have been falling for it over and over even if someone's not from mafiascum it's not like some roles are rare don't you think !scum Gerry could fake the traitor townslip really really easy

Also whenever he gets pressured he goes into an ate rage saing w/e I'm town because he has no defense

[MariaR]

VOTE: Gerry

Gerry should know long posts aren't really AI and is pulling out BS for wanting to tr CR I honestly think I was right on Gerry was scared to out reads and just picked someone he thought was towny cause of it

He's trying to act like a noob when I'm pretty sure he knows a lot more then he's letting on

^ When he was townreading CR for long posts

[MariaR]

If Nero's scum (and he could be but it's unlikely) then yeah he Nk'd

or he's town and jailed scum!

Or scum wasn't jailed and nk'd for wifom

[MariaR]

Maria why don't you care about night actions

I somewhat care but not enough to change my vote

[MariaR]

If Gerry is town I have to look at a Nero Ira team Zap Nero etc

Plus if Gerry is town I want to lose at this ponit

[MariaR]

That's what I don't get though. If Nero is actually a town JK, and he explicitly said he was going to block Gerry, and then blocked Gerry at night, and Gerry was scum, why the fuck would scum have Gerry perform the kill instead of the other scum player?

Let me give you pro inside info on scum chat

Scum 2 *cough* zap *cough*: Oh man Nero's gonna rb you what do we do should I lead the kill!

Gerry: He's bluffing there's no way he would do that I got this

Scum 2: I don't know it could be risky...

Gerry: YOLO

[MariaR]

Or you know I'm gonna take a giant guess (and what I think happened) I think you led the kill and Nero jailed you

[MariaR]

Why is your logic always so awful

So you're saying me thinking that scum thought Nero would wifom is bad logic?

[MariaR]

I was giving you input on why Scum would either NK or why Gerry would lead the kill

I think you led the kill

just because something is unlikely or it's hard to understand doesn't make it awful

[MariaR]

Holy shit Ira I should of lynched you Day 1

[MariaR]

Zap you asked me to give you an answer on why GERRY would lead the kill and I think it's unlikely he would but there's still a reason he would

I think YOU lead the kill not him

[MariaR]

I take full blame for this loss for meta lynching Map and not hammering Ira like I should have

[MariaR]

Ira, why don't you care about night actions? Aren't you curious why there wasn't a night kill?

Yeah, I know it's clearly because NEROCAIN and MariaR elected to no kill.

We are at MyLo now, it's not like they caused us to gain a mislynch...

It's even more impossible for NEROCAIN to be jailkeeper now!

Why do you scumread me

[MariaR]

EVERYONE HERE IS A MORON

[MariaR]

HOW DOES NO ONE SEE THROUGH THIS?????

[MariaR]

Ira for the love of all that is holy if you don't unvote I am going to kick your ass

[MariaR]

Maria, you really don't think that Nero could be framing me with the whole Jail BS?

Who's mafia with Nero then

[MariaR]

"But if you're town vote Nero"
LOL okay

[MariaR]

It's funny because you aren't town-aligned.

Why. Do. You. Scum. Read. ME

[MariaR]

Ira I am not losing over a month of my fucking time to a loss just because you're gonna be stubborn and not answer me.

Why do you scum read me

Pedit: So because I voted the same with Nero we're teamed

Me and Nero aren't a team just look at any of out interactions and say how we're a team

Why don't you sr Gerry

[MariaR]

Yes, you are a team because you voted together.

Because mafia buddy so hard like that right?

[MariaR]

Hey Gerry, let's talk like you're town.

You know if you're wrong about Nero scum could walk in here and quickhammer right?

fuck off with the bs interactions

[MariaR]

Yes, you are a team because you voted together.

Because mafia buddy so hard like that right?

Yes, that is the WIFOM that you are attempting to hide behind.

Town-aligned players to not act as if other players are confirmed as town-aligned to them for no reason.

Me having a strong townread on you is AWFUL just tragic makes me maf!

[MariaR]

Nero we're a team we got caught we lost the jig is up!

[MariaR]

THE TEAM IS RIGHT THERE AND I'VE WANTED TO VOTE IT ALL GAME BUT WE FUCKING VOTED DW FOR SOME REASON FK ME

[MariaR]

>says the one who hammered BYF even tho she thought me and zap were mafs.

good reasoning maria

It was clear you weren't getting lynched and it was Zap or Byf so I hammered one of them oh well got it wrong!

[MariaR]

He's not wrong I've called him scum and town all day and before and after etc

[MariaR]

lol @ Gerry and Ira not being able to explain why I'd no kill and why Maria would think she'd have

ANY

chance in a lylo with gerry/ira/conf town or gerry/two conf town

YOOOOOOOOOOO ^^^^^^^^^

[MariaR]

HOW THE FUCK IS GERRY TOWNY IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM IT'S JUST (Fence sitting Ate and fucking dumb telling)

[MariaR]

Please don't tell me you jailed Zap or I'm 1000% times done with this game

CAN WE VOTE GERRY YET DEAR GOD

[MariaR]

Why? You are scumreading Zap so why if I blocked him would you be upset?

You said you think you blocked mafia from killing someone (or am I reading that wrong) If you jailed zap that means you tr him by that logic and I would want to shoot myself in the foot

aka I'm saying I think Zap and Gerry are still scum and if you tr them welp better just take the rope and put it around my own neck

[MariaR]

TIME TO SING KUMBAYA

[MariaR]

@maria why do you want to lynch Gerry over Zap?

I sr Gerry harder and I guess a gerry lynch would be more satisfying then a Zap lych

[MariaR]

I dislike nling because 1 it puts us at 5 people where mafia can bliz if 1 town votes wrong and I'm pretty sure Ira would just die cause every other kill is wifom and risky

[MariaR]

Touche.

[MariaR]

He unvoted cause he needs to have thinking time oh sorry

"thinking time"

[MariaR]

is there a mentoring program I can sign Ira up for Y/N?

[MariaR]

Let me translate what Gerry said:

"I'm mafia and I want this to get to 3 votes so I can quick hammer!"

[MariaR]

is there a mentoring program I can sign Ira up for Y/N?

if you think his reads are so wrong, why dont you fos him?

WHAT TYPE OF QUESTION IS THIS?????

[MariaR]

why are you so convinced he's town. i havent seen your reasoning. usually if i think someone is town, yet their reads are the opposite of mine, I am a bit weary of them. you've shown nothing of that at all

holy shit grow a pair and vote me already you don't need a fucking reason people already tr your ateing dumbtell

I already said CR only voted Ira and CR tried really hard to get Ira lynched meaning if Ira was scum CR would be a prime NK target making the other mafia not look towny and only having 1 mafia left

[MariaR]

I'm not going back to say every single reason why I think Ira is town when everyone feels the same way it's not hard to tell what you're doing the only reason you're asking me is to be like "I don't think Maria's townreads are srs she's prob scum"

WHEN YOU ONLY OUTTED 2 READS ALL OF DAY FKING 2 AND YOU ARE "FENCE SITTING" TO HELL

[MariaR]

is there a mentoring program I can sign Ira up for Y/N?

I am, indeed, comfortable in my competence.

you shouldn't be for town reading the shit show gerry has given when you can't out a single fucking reason why you townread him or won't talk about any of the points we bring up against him the fact you choose to ignore any point brought up by someone you scumread will be what loses this game

[MariaR]

you've said that you are not knew to forum mafia or mafia...you have something somewhere unless you are alt hiding.

THISSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[MariaR]

This could be an attempt to make it look like they aren't partners, maybe. idk. I still kinda think Maria is dumb town tho for the senseless tunnel on me.

Maria, you really don't think that Nero could be framing me with the whole Jail BS?

Maria, you really don't think that Nero could be framing me with the whole Jail BS?

Who's mafia with Nero then

idk i was pretty sure it was BYF. So my 2 biggest reads have been backwards lol. I'm starting to think your tunnel with no sense to even think that I could be getting framed, is kinda weird from you.

these are legit from only looking up the word "could be"

[MariaR]

ok maria is dumb town or mafia. idc anymore as town will lose if byf is town. so i'm done trying.

More fence sitting

Wait serious question, is mafia allowed to no kill? Cause I could be framed that way

GERRY'S MOST SCUMMY COMMENT THE WHOLE GAME

[MariaR]

ok maria is dumb town or mafia. idc anymore as town will lose if byf is town. so i'm done trying.

More fence sitting

Wait serious question, is mafia allowed to no kill? Cause I could be framed that way

GERRY'S MOST SCUMMY COMMENT THE WHOLE GAME

you act like i couldnt just ASK MY PARTNER AT NIGHT IF I WAS MAFIA. your questions have easy answers but you try to make them as questionable as possible

"I could be framed that way omg!" HOW CONVENIENT OF A FUCKING ANSWER

[MariaR]

lol maria, what is the benefit of me asking that as mafia for people to push on.

You just answered your own question.

[MariaR]

honestly, if i was mafia. I'd have this game won already. It's much easier to fake reads than it is to be right about reads as town.

[MariaR]

agreed but there's still a ton of scum motivation in doing nothing for days. Like, OMGUS is scummy b/c mafia can OMGUS just like town can OMGUS so I think that sometimes scum will NOT sorta spread their reads out so they have less chance of getting scum read. You know?

I think it's more scum want to try and stay consistent with their reads and with less strong reads you can make up a believable tr/sr

[MariaR]

i find joy in tricking others as mafia. I don't find joy in not doing anything.

You find joy in a scum game of Ate and dumbtell?

[MariaR]

Like that doesn't seem fun at all I wouldn't be proud of that game at all

[MariaR]

YALL ARE FUCKING MORONS

[MariaR]

VOTE: Nero

[MariaR]

Finger slipped I swear!

[MariaR]

[MariaR]

i'd throw up if i was on a team with MARIA

EWWWWW GROSS

[MariaR]

Also how the fuck is this set up even closed to balanced with 4 town pr's that are op as fuck and can clear to mafia goons???

[MariaR]

i'd throw up if i was on a team with MARIA

EWWWWW GROSS

ew i h8 u SO much.

Don't ever play with me again you obv mafia moron!

[MariaR]

Also how the fuck is this set up even closed to balanced with 4 town pr's that are op as fuck and can clear to mafia goons???

What did ya'll have?

just the traitor that's it

[MariaR]

Also how the fuck is this set up even closed to balanced with 4 town pr's that are op as fuck and can clear to mafia goons???

What did ya'll have?

just the traitor that's it

wow that's insane. How the fuck did town lose this?

I THOUGHT YOU WERE FAKE CLAIMING CAUSE I WAS LIKE "We're just goons there's 0 way town has they many pr's"

[MariaR]

yep. i think we distanced very well the last few days. btw me and maria are bffs, we werent actually mad at each other lmao.

but yeah, we had 2 goons and a traitor encryptor vs 4 PRs?? All that could clear themselves. how was this balanced at all

Bff's...GROSS

[MariaR]

Waiting for that random ass vig

[MariaR]

I think the best part was us both freaking out thinking the other was super scummy but just remembering we know each others play

Pedit: I THOUGHT ELYSE WAS OUR TRAITOR WITH THAT "scumslip" thing on day 1 I thought that was fking code

[MariaR]

Yeah I thought coming up with cases on people that would be easy lynches and calling them my own along with always being okay with lynching Gerry would be good for me

[MariaR]

inb4 there's a gov that saves me and we power lynch Maria and Gerry

I want to know who approved this set up for balance

[MariaR]

yeah we didn't have a traitor so we didn't talk about it so he just did it I'm like DAMMMMMM

[MariaR]

I don't think we were under fire for quite a bit but we got lucky and people voted you before me

[MariaR]

My thoughts when I went to go see what CR flipped:

"Yay finally got CR flipped our plan is working I kinda hope this is PR!"

*Sees traitor re reads again just to make sure*

"WHAT THE SRS FUCK"

[MariaR]

I'm sorry that made you so unhappy with the game as that was never my goal I was just playing to win a way I know how and being stubborn like this was a way I thought I could get to it I promise you I don't act like this in every single game I play as I have a different approach on each game if you don't want to talk to me I understand.

[MariaR]

A lot of the stuff that happened we got quite lucky on a lot of the game was left of up to chance because of the town pr's even giving mafia a 3rd goon instead of traitor would have been ever this was extremely town sided no matter if town can get an "iffy result" (that rarely happens) good game none the less and ty for hosting

[MariaR]

Never would have guessed Maria scum. Hats off to her.

I thought BYF or Nero had to be scum because of the PRs but I think having so much town power that you think one PR has to be scum is a cool concept. Especially with the traitor involved.

I thought Gerry was scum near the end but never would've pegged Maria as his buddy. Hats off to them.

You played pretty dang well with the cards you were given if Gerry didn't get you as PR you prob would of won this game for town well played to you!

[MariaR]

You had no idea how shocked I was when I came to see I was rb'd I was 100% sure Nero was fake claiming

[MariaR]

When Nero's a pro and he doesn't realise it

[MariaR]

Now that I know your scum meta, I don't think I'll be fooled by you again Maria lol

I change my scum game a ton I hope you can keep up