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Neither do I.In post 129, Flubbernugget wrote:The two wagons(?) seem to be on omega and Grey and I don't get either of them-
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Define long.
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Why are you avoiding the question?
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Okay then you misunderstood the question. So let me rephrase it. In the context of this game, you said you've been on the Gamma wagon for long enough. And how long is that time period to you?In post 155, -Grey- wrote:
Because common sense questions annoy me.In post 153, Alisae wrote:Why are you avoiding the question?
Asking someone to define a word that is not being used in an abnormal manner is just busywork.
Also don't like the fact you're not willing to work with me. If anything you're being anti-town at the moment.-
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If this is your way of being lynchbait, I don't like it.In post 164, -Grey- wrote:
So?In post 158, Alisae wrote:Also don't like the fact you're not willing to work with me. If anything you're being anti-town at the moment.-
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Okay,In post 186, Ircher wrote:
How about phrasing that as a non-loaded question?In post 184, Alisae wrote:Sequencer, don't you get the feeling that Ircher is trying to push lynch bait extremely hard?
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You were getting lynched the next day. I was slightly paying attention to that game while it was happening as well.In post 190, -Grey- wrote:
Context: I was killed n1 because I softed cop as a VT to draw the NK.In post 188, Ircher wrote:And my biased response is no, esp. considering that in the one newbie game that Grey has completed, Grey was killed N1.
It worked, so apparently I did something right.-
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In post 259, Alisae wrote:TwoFace, why is All Alone scum?-
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This is becuase quite frankly I haven't had as much time to quickly do things at the moment. But I can see where you're coming from.In post 316, -Grey- wrote:
Edit.In post 314, -Grey- wrote:
Why, though? Town often makes superficial cases on d1 because there isn't anything more substantial to build a case around when the game is just getting started.In post 309, Alisae wrote:Like for example I'm paying attention to Ircher whom really tried to push Grey.
Your actions are a lot scummier than Ircher's. He's scumhunting. You're coming across as angling.-
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Really? In that case his arguement makes no sense to me.In post 326, Ircher wrote:
EBWOPIn post 325, Ircher wrote:
Out of all the people you can ask that to, you ask it to the one who's most likely to have considered that.....In post 323, Alisae wrote:Have you ever thought that Ircher is pretending to scumhunt?-
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Have I done anything else to you that seemed scummy prior to grey's vote?In post 335, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm actually going to second this motion and will hop on that Oregon Trail wagon
VOTE: Alisea
P-Edit: I ain't reading shit that's not related to this game. Now you can go ahead and tell me what you're after but you're going to explain that here. I ain't your damn lapdog.-
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2 votes. Grey and yours.In post 356, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:It's getting close to being out of spite right now.
How many votes are on you?-
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No, I am just trying to understand where you're coming from and trying to understand your logic which I don't agree with.In post 362, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Hey Alisae? You like the sound of pressuring me to vote my scum reads because you want a mislynch? Is it that or is there a different motive as to why you want me to vote someone besides you so badly?
P-Edit: Then why are you so edgy about a vote or two on you? Stop worrying about yourself, go argue against someone and show how they are scum. I seriously could care less about defending, I'm swayed by offense over defense.
And why can't that someone be you?-
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Yeah...no. You're scum. I'm certain in this now.In post 374, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Don't argue one post by me, remember our entire argument.In post 372, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote: 1)Sheep/Band wagon votes. This is where one player votes someone who seems to get a lot of heat on them to blend in or because they feel like following someone they town read to apply it as a pressure vote against the accused to get them talking.That's what I did here, as evidence, even with 2 votes, my sheep vote got you talking and that's what I want to happen.
You're talking now, I'm extracting info and I'll be able to make a sufficient read when we are done here.
What else you got that you're not clear about?
You've put no effort into scumhunting currently whatsoever.
You're voting me, and you'd think that because you are voting me you would want to talk to me to see if I'm scum or not but nope, I am completely in control of our dialogue. You have nothing to ask me. And when you asked me "why didn't I go attack someone else?" you figured I wouldn't attack you. You were probably hoping I didn't attack you.
Your voting has no conviction behind it, and it's sheepy and that's bad. I don't think you even understand how bad it is.
Lastly you just offered me IoA. Your post has more information then analysis in it.-
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It's easy to insult and discredit a player you're attacking. It's harder to prove them wrong.In post 379, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:ou just don't know how to fucking scumhunt.-
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Why?In post 382, Ircher wrote:@Alisae - How about you step back from your current Gin read for say an hour or two and maybe look elsewhere then proceed to reanalyze your Gin read after that?-
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Analyzing yourself is also very self-conscious.In post 383, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Don't try that bullshit on me. I answered why the fuck my actions weren't scum motivated in the same quote.-
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Anywhere you specificly want me to look then?In post 385, Ircher wrote:Cuz I think you might be tunneling right now.-
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Alright fine, but I am gonna assume you disagree with me. Why do you think Gin is not scum?In post 388, Ircher wrote:I just want you to look elsewhere besides Gin right now. Then reevaluate Gin when you can be more objective about it.-
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Where did I say this exactly?In post 390, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Your rebuttal: I didn't build a case on you.
If you can respectfully show me where you get townie points.-
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Gin, by no conviction I mean you don't feel as if I am scum. You have no strong belief to your vote. I'm null to you. And you could be voting people you think are scum and doing this reaction test on them. But you're wasting time on me. I honestly think it's scum motivated. And at the time I'm the easiest wagon to hop on, so you just sheep it to see what happens. Qutie frankly I don't think you could have predicted me going off on you.
I never said the word case. You associated the word case and conviction. Every vote is important when they matter, and I'm holding you accountable to yours. I wasn't asking you to prove that I am scum. And I never did. I'm saying is you never strongly believed that I am scum, yet you are voting me for it anyways.-
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Once again, no real conviction in his voting. To him it honestly doesn't matter.
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Grey, whats your current read on Gin?In post 400, -Grey- wrote:
Eh. I gotta agree with this somewhat.In post 397, Alisae wrote:Once again, no real conviction in his voting. To him it honestly doesn't matter.
Not a fan of the unvote because there was no danger of Alisae being flashlynched while he slept.-
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I know right! Want my life story? It's pretty interesting.In post 405, -Grey- wrote:
Null. You're far more interesting.In post 404, Alisae wrote:Grey, whats your current read on Gin?-
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Now, let me explain why I don't like that.
A. You're basicly chainsawing Gin.
B. You specificly looked into my past game to tried to find a justified vote, and that being my first game. If you read the game, you could have figured that I was just being new and learning and shit. But you straight up took a bit out of context and used it against me. You're looking at me through a colored lens.-
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Yeah, I don't really think Gin is scum as much anymore.
And with that said, I am concerned for how he's playing and I don't like it.
I'm not fully convinced that he's town though. So he get's a null scumlean.
I still think Gamma is town.
You're thoughts on All Alone, because I think their vote on me seems like an attempt to have a justified vote and hop on the wagon.-
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To add to this, their vote feels super forced.In post 426, Alisae wrote:Now, let me explain why I don't like that.
A. You're basicly chainsawing Gin.
B. You specificly looked into my past game to tried to find a justified vote, and that being my first game. If you read the game, you could have figured that I was just being new and learning and shit. But you straight up took a bit out of context and used it against me. You're looking at me through a colored lens.-
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This is why Naomi is town.In post 429, Naomi-Tan wrote:
No doubt given the above post XDIn post 427, -Grey- wrote:My my, what a development.
An Alisae red flip will make me very interested in Naomi.
I see no reason why Scum Naomi would defend me.-
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In post 526, Human Sequencer wrote:Gamma is hoping for the town credit when Naomi flips town, and is trying to set up another mislynch for D2.
VOTE: Gamma
Ehhh, I really don't like this meta call.In post 530, Human Sequencer wrote:scumGamma doesn't interact with the people who scumread him, like I am right now. He flakes. ISO him in micro 665 (on my wiki) for more information.
Like, I have him as town for reasons that would be anti-town to explain.
So let me ask you this question, why would Scum!Gamma link that game he posted? Asking us to read 5 pages isn't really wasting our time.
Don't plan on it cause going your wagon on you is shit and scum are probably on it.In post 549, Naomi-Tan wrote:Okay lets get stop Alisae killing themselves.
Alisae - Okay I know your prob reading this and have gone quiet as you don't know what to make of things. but you should not join my wagon. If you join right now and I flip green they will go back to hounding you and if I flip red they will say that you are my red buddy and joined late as you couldn't see me talking my way out of things and want the green credit.
I see nothing scum from gain from white knighting me. IN fact, I think scum Naomi would be in a lot better position to attack me then stand up for me.-
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I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.In post 559, Ircher wrote:
Let them help themselves.In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".
Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
Dude I miss the evidence for this?In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.
Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
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Ya know, why are you saying this?In post 602, Ircher wrote:
You know, Grey said the same thing about me at the beginning of the game except he didn't even try to back it up w/ quotes of any sort.....In post 601, Alisae wrote:
I don't like this. You're trying to discourage town from building a cohesive town to form town led lynches.In post 559, Ircher wrote:
Let them help themselves.In post 555, Naomi-Tan wrote:
Given that your current white knight POV. why is helping someone a bad thing. given you should be thinking; 'A Red is preventing a green from dying, thats a good thing, I don't need to comment'.In post 551, Ircher wrote:More buddying and coaching in-thread. Not a good sign after your earlier "slip".
Yeah Just cause people are red reading me right now doesn't mean its gonna stop me helping someone who looks green and looks like they need assistance.
My point with this I don't see why he was voting me at the time if he had bigger scumreads.In post 573, Flubbernugget wrote:
Dude I miss the evidence for this?In post 366, Alisae wrote:Qutie frankly I am calm, collected, and tired. Not freaking out. Press my buttons a bit and I can do that.
Either way, your voting is...I believe the right term is wishywashy?
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