Mini 1674: A Minimalist Text Adventure (Fire's Out)

[BlankFace]

Cho, what do you think of Mala townreading me while the rest of you scumread me?

I'm townreading Mala separately from things related to you - I actually don't even remember her townreading you.

This is making me think of you accusing Sakura of whiteknighting and her somehow shifting to agreeing with me and voting you, which I admittedly wasn't paying much attention to either and kind of want to see how things changed but also being too lazy to. I still think unless Sakura found a way with her new playstyle to also give herself the confidence to reserve her logic

in place of

her emotions as scum, she's town.

Also if it wasn't clear I don't know if you're town or scum anymore, but (I never thought I would say this)

either way the wagon needs an emergency brake right now.

This is me saying be prepared for me to potentially vote you again if I feel like it, and asking that you not bitch about it if it happens (which I am asking just because I hate how I instinctively townread you when you do that and I think if you're scum it's screwing my read up so yeah please stop doing that).

This is the post that NS was claiming to be Cho buddying up to him. I'm not seeing the same thing.

I think this is the post where Cho decides she's bussed enough to be safe. For context, her post before this is switching from NS to BBT. What I need to look at is if Pie ever voted NS. And Pie's reactions to Cho voting NS. Because I think that is what Cho was doing the entire time; looking for the traitor. Vote your partner and look at how people acknowledge it, look for anyone who seems to notice what's up. I also need to look at how Sakura pushed NS, because NS's reactions to Cho's wagon is weak. Incredibly weak.

And I need to look at Pie Day 2 for any hints she drops to NS; with Cho gone she has to find a way to try and make it seem obvious that she is the traitor to him without any of us knowing. The only post that sticks out in the back of my head is the wagon analysis. But I'll look again.

[notscience]

You have fun with that.

[Bins]

are you going insane?

VOTE COUNT 6.1

(0) BlankFace - (0) Huntress - (0) notscience - (0) not voting - Huntress, notscience, Blankface *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* with 3 alive , it's 2 to lynch. day 5 deadline: (expired on 2015-07-19 22:33:00) (July 19th) mod notes :

[Huntress]

are you going insane?

Probably. Rereading the Day one stuff between Cho and NS has that effect on me.

Notscience.

I've picked out what I think are the relevant posts:
5 Pie votes NS.
58 Pie takes vote of NS and tells BBT that a policy lynch on NS is bad and she'll make sure it doesn't happen.
65 Pie defends NS saying he isn't a lurker.
76 Pie agrees that she is one of the people who can 100%-read NS.
379-402 No idea what to say about this, except that Cho votes NS again in 385
418 Pie says BF is town and that NS's reads are weird.
419 Pie votes NS (he now has three votes on him).
422 Pie says NS's pushes are weak and queries his read on Sakura.
481-506 Cho says RC should vote NS and that he is scum. She keeps poking him.
505 and a few more - NS replies to above and lists some of his scumtells. A bit of AtE but that's not surprising given the context.
519 NS says he doesn't think scum-marquis would risk starting this wagon in this playerlist, unless she's scum with both pie and sakura.
523 NS says Pie's stance on him is curious because she leaves open the route for him to talk out of it whereas he feels like scum pie would try and trap him into whatever he was saying and make him condemn himself.
563 NS says he thinks Cho is definitely town.
652 Cho says to NS "Also if it wasn't clear I don't know if you're town or scum anymore, but (I never thought I would say this) either way the wagon needs an emergency brake right now."
675 Pie says Even if notsci is scum, there are 2 other scum to find - and we don't have to lynch notsci right at this very second. So I don't really think continuing to push notsci here will be a very efficient course of action.
1007 Pie says notsci likely isn't on a team with Cho.

What I need to look at is if Pie ever voted NS. And Pie's reactions to Cho voting NS. Because I think that is what Cho was doing the entire time; looking for the traitor. Vote your partner and look at how people acknowledge it, look for anyone who seems to notice what's up.

This seems to be what is happening here.
Pie starts off by defending NS.
In 385 Cho moves her vote from BBT to NS.
In 419 Pie moves her vote from BBT to NS.
In 645 Cho moves her vote back to BBT.
In 668 Pie moves her vote back to BBT.
In 772 Cho votes NS again but by this time he was in little danger of getting lynched.

I'm wondering if Pie was deliberately mirroring Cho's votes there to get her attention. There is another parallel between 652 and 675.
I think the point NS made in 523 about Pie leaving the route open for him also points to her knowing he is a werewolf.

BlankFace

258 BF quotes 149 and says Pie is town.
418 Pie says BF is town and that NS's reads are weird.
435 BF asks if Cho is an alt.
441 BF asks Asher how he feels that about the way that Cho has responded to the questions that NS and he have asked.
535 BF tells NM to ISO Cho and tell him exactly what Cho has brought to the town.
537 Cho thinks BF is is newbtown or deceivingly experienced scum and is leaning the former.

I don't think these posts point to BF being Cho's partner.

[Huntress]

I can't see anything in the rest of Day two or in Day three that sticks out to me.

Day four started with NM and Bulge voting BF purely on poe. 1338 and 1339
1348 NS says last scum is blankface, following it up with 1353.
1363 I questioned him about 1353.
1381 (3rd para) BF asked him about it too.
NS never gave a direct reply to either of these.

With NS's failure to satisfactorily back up his vote, it looks like he was just taking the chance to push a lynch on a player who hadn't attracted much suspicion up until then, and not even then apart from NS's suggestion of the motive for BF's Day two vote; thus avoiding the need to nk him and saving more viable mislynch targets for later rounds.

Is there an actual push going to happen in the near future?

What did you mean by this?

Look at it this way huntress- the nightkills make no sense to have come from me (which I've said)

Do they make sense coming from BF? I mean with concrete stuff you can point to, not just wifom.

[Huntress]

I'll wait a bit for a response from NS before voting, but from what I've seen so far I think he's the last werewolf.

[notscience]

"Stop avoiding the elephant in the room and actually push me

And asking for /concrete/ evidence on something that's not actualyl concrete is fucking hysterical.

[notscience]

Frankly, if you're going to vote me just vote me.

[BlankFace]

VOTE: NotScience

If Huntress is the last scum, I'll eat my shoe, I just can't see any way it isn't NotSci at this point.

[notscience]

VOTE: Blankface

[notscience]

I don't think these posts point to BF being Cho's partner.

Yes, clearly the limited interactions point to bf town

Clearly.

[BlankFace]

I don't think these posts point to BF being Cho's partner.

Yes, clearly the limited interactions point to bf town

Clearly.

How did Pie communicate she was the traitor to me day 2? Saying she didn't try to tell her partner who she was is implausible.

[notscience]

Also, Huntress.

Do me a favor.

If you're going to give me shit about not using WIFOM, don't use it yourself.

pedit-

She didn't, because if she got lynched, this exact conversation could happen.

Hell, I'm literally the worst at picking up crumbs as scum.

Example- Plants vs Zombies, someone claimed Zomboss and I didnt put together that meant they wre a PR.

So /sure/, she could have tried to signal to me.

but hypothetical-

Suppose I'm telling the truth about pie's accuracy regarding reading me and I *am* scum- Is her mirroring Cho's votes something I would even notice? Like sure I would know I have a traitor and all but that doesnt differ from how I would see town-pie approaching it, I'd have come into this game expecting it.

So, no.

[Huntress]

Vote: Notscience

[notscience]

woo town lost

[notscience]

A+

[notscience]

BBT's still town MVP

[BlankFace]

Are you seriously town NotSci?

GOD. DAMMIT. I'll go find a shoe.

[notscience]

No shit, sherlock

[BlankFace]

Fuck.

Well played Huntress.

[Huntress]

Hoping and praying aren't really good scum tactics.

But sometimes that's all we can do.

[BlankFace]

With me and NotSci alive, I don't think this was going to go any other way. I should have listened to that paranoia I had a few days ago.

[notscience]

Why the fuck did you not kill notmafia

[notscience]

Like that alone made me think you town without all doubt

what the fuck

[notscience]

Like I actually did stop to reconsider things coming in to today

holy fuck