*GAME OVER* Mini 1690 - Zed's Tavern! (Mafia Win!)

[Billi bilaði]

I think that touch was a key element in winning Aero over.
And the biggest reason I wanted to kill you, (re. your surprise in the Dead Thread), I saw all the elements of a power player who would root us out.
(A smaller reason was that I would not have been surprised to see a doctor in the house, and then he would be more likely to protect pisskop.)

[Aeronaut]

Titus I'm so sorry

[Billi bilaði]

I'd rather that Aero would vote for Titus, as that's the way for town to win, not just for Titus.

This should have tipped me off tbh

I'm glad that it didn't. My silence had been too long, so I had to say something without saying to much.

[Billi bilaði]

Are you guys gonna release the ScumPT because I want to know why you'd kill the vig over the claimed cop?

With a blocker there is no need to kill a claimed cop when there are other PR's to choose from.

PS: I've ok'd the release of the ScumPT.

[SilverWolf]

Are you guys gonna release the ScumPT because I want to know why you'd kill the vig over the claimed cop?

With a blocker there is no need to kill a claimed cop when there are other PR's to choose from.

PS: I've ok'd the release of the ScumPT.

But weren't you worried pisskop would rolestop me again and want to kill him first?

[Shiro]

cool game had fun

Billi you played a superb game, tbh I doubt anyone ever scum read you this whole game and even my vote on you was based on very thing assumptions and PoE based on them.

[SilverWolf]

Aero-don't beat yourself up over it. I can totally see where you decided not to go with billi, he played a very good game. I've made similar decisions as town before and lost. Remember how bad I screwed up lylo in 425?

It's a hell of a lot easier for dead people who have been spoilered to say it should of gone differently.

[SilverWolf]

I think that touch was a key element in winning Aero over.
And the biggest reason I wanted to kill you, (re. your surprise in the Dead Thread), I saw all the elements of a power player who would root us out.
(A smaller reason was that I would not have been surprised to see a doctor in the house, and then he would be more likely to protect pisskop.)

Are you guys gonna release the ScumPT because I want to know why you'd kill the vig over the claimed cop?

With a blocker there is no need to kill a claimed cop when there are other PR's to choose from.

PS: I've ok'd the release of the ScumPT.

OK, gotcha. This makes sense. I didn't expect to live long once it got out I was the vig and especially after dragon's cop result on me. I just like to see how scum operate with multiple PR's outed and if I'd do the same thing or not.

[SilverWolf]

Anyway, Thanks again guys.

Good game all!!

[pisskop]

Le Sigh

billi's play is certainly commendable. It was a fun game! Imagine if I had went with the SW rolestop

Thanks for modding!

[pisskop]

Also, how about those vig shots

[Chevre]

I'm just gonna say that I would not have played any different had I rolled a different role.

You lynched me for playing against the grain, not for being scummy.

But kudos to scum. I totally misjudged billi and did not think he would be able to pull it off.

[Billi bilaði]

Re: Dead thread: In case of no lynch on the last day, I was leaning towards killing Aero, and not dragon. I.e. kill the one that was more on my side (and not take a final chance on the BP being permanent).

[Billi bilaði]

There was a number of roles that I've never seen before.

[dragonspawn]

We picked wrong it happens.

If we hadn't had that cop enabler I would have investigated cheetory and things may have been different.

[Aeronaut]

Also, how about those vig shots

Yea. You and silver carried this game for town. Great job guys, sorry!

[Jazzmyn]

Yay! Mafia win! Very nicely played, Billi. You did a great job!

Good game, all, and many thanks to Ozgin for hosting.

Regards,
Jazz

[Shiro]

Also, how about those vig shots

[Shiro]

Question though pisskop why did you pick quar over maho?

[pisskop]

Id have to look back but like it says in the deadthread was to kill cheet. I went with a person less likely to be lynched tomorrow.

I think I townread mahonster?

[SilverWolf]

Also, how about those vig shots

I was further away when I did it. Kind of like a sniper. Then someone shot me the same way. Busy night.

[SilverWolf]

My shot was because I was suspicious of Grimm more than Jazz and I thought pisskop said it was due to meta IIRC. We got lucky. If either of us would of hit town, or the kill wouldn't of been blocked N1 by dragon's BP, who knows what would of happened.

My biggest problem with a town loss is not that billi didn't deserve it. It was more like town had everything going for them. Two scum vig kills. Two cop clears. A mod error that benefited town more than scum. A blocked scum kill N1. A dead SK which could of shot town, etc.

So all town had to do was lynch one scum without a PR to help them. I realize it was hard. But it was the no communication at all that bothered me the most. That said, mah was a good kill by scum to put town in that situation.

[SilverWolf]

I'm just gonna say that I would not have played any different had I rolled a different role.

You lynched me for playing against the grain, not for being scummy.

But kudos to scum. I totally misjudged billi and did not think he would be able to pull it off.

I wanted to address this. You were lynched because of your vig claim. I was pretty sure, and I'm betting pisskop was too for his role, that you didn't make sense in the set-up with me. I was never going to unvote you because you had me as your top scum pick. I did not want to be shot N1 when I knew I had an even night modifier for my role. My interactions with you did not leave me feeling like we were TvT. It was partly you jumping on the biggest wagons but mostly other things IMO that got you lynched.

[pisskop]

I knew that if SW was a vig and I had a bullet, there was no way you were town and had one.

[Billi bilaði]

I pondered a long, long time over the Mah kill. I put up all the situation for killing each player, but at the end of the night, I could not let both neighbors live.