Mini 1709: Radjarok: Game over!

[havingfitz]

I doubt my vote is going anywhere other than Not_Mafia today.

Only other possibility is Dierfire.

Dierfire....are you a watcher and what were your results?

Also....we're in LYLO till game is over.

[havingfitz]

Vt

[Hopkirk]

So the three most likely cases are Notmafia/Titus, Notmafia/Dierfire, Notmafia/Titus. Going to try and go through each of them now.

Starting with dierfire as he has the least posts (slotwise).
(as SamX)
No reads at the start of the game and for a while (129). Comments on multiple things and accepts its rvs but chooses not to get involved in anything.
Townreads in 155 look reasonably reasoned. Consistent on veegee scumread, though this is neither updated, nor any original reasons given for it.
269= Accountant is “most town”. 344 (after coming back from v/la) accountant is now “a bit scummy” because of the approximate chance of town/scum numbers on gob.346- Weird how he’s changed his top townread because he thinks the attack on Gob is bad, despite claiming to be neutral on Gob. Looks like a defence of Gob, but he doesn’t vote Accountant… though he says that’s just because he prefers a veegee vote.
Never attacks gob, defends a fair amount. Tunnels a scumread without reason.
Replaces out as new player more likely from scum.
(as Dierfire)
Starts off by attack Dessew based on Gob interactions.
679 looks quite natural.
685- Votes Texcat. Unclear why he believes notmafia>Texcat as from 679 it sounded like notmafia was a neutral read and texcat was town.
757 on titus didn’t make sense. Still on titus and little added to the case after first post ingame.

Overall
Some reads look quite natural, the veegee and texcat votes are confusing. The defence of Gob in regard to accountant is really weird.
SamX has suspicious interactions with Gob. Based on these posts, bussing is possible with titus, but notmafia looks like he’d be a more likely partner.

Interactions with Gob
238- Townread on Gob sort of. Says the readslist was good and specifies “I am not defending gob”
344- Read on accountant changing.
Interactions with Titus
238- Townread on dessew for “constructive criticism”. This was mainly stuff like “this is how to format x”, weird reason for a townread.
Tunnels titus upon replace in.
Interactions with Notmafia
163- Sheeps vijay on veegee vote.
685- Votes texcat as L1 vote.

[Dierfire]

I'm not a Watcher--I'm VT.
NM is lying and is Mafia.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Titus is probably the last Mafia although that little shuffle of votes makes it difficult to say for certain.
I'm typing more.

[Dierfire]

The claim by NM makes little objective sense. Why would I, as Mafia, kill Salamence rather than NM and risk discovery if I were investigated?
It makes considerably more sense from a Mafia perspective, however. NM thinks that he has enough votes to get me lynched, so he decided to push against me. This is LYLO, so he's hoping to coast off his proven Rolecop ability.

[Dierfire]

VOTE: stoz

bye

Here's NM dropping a hammer on Stoz (rather early, ignoring some outstanding questions). After Stoz flips Town, he decides to investigate me--why? Wouldn't it have made more sense to investigate someone on the Stoz wagon?

[Dierfire]

The fact that NM isnt dead really irks me and I dont want him in lylo.

Here's why Salamence is dead.

[Hopkirk]

Dessew/Titus next.
(as Dessew) Lots of early fluff. Also defends gob throughout the day. Accepts the association between them exists (“Hopkirk was the first one, to make an association between gob and me”) but doesn’t really comment on it
Takes a long time voting Stoz for sketchy reasons.
Defends gob from accountant too (though by requesting more reasons).
(Titus)
Early stuff doesn’t say much. VCA isn’t really alignment indicative.

Dierfire interactions
Dessew mentions samx once.
Gob interactions
Very friendly/defending/townreading each other pretty inexplicably. Based on Gob’s play, I’m not that confident that gob could make townDessew act like this.
Notmafia interactions
Dessew is nullish on vijay throughout.

Dierfire looks the worse of the two I’ve done so far (Dierfire/Titus. If titus is scum, Notmafia team looks like it would be more likely than dierfire team.

[Radja]

DAY 4, VOTECOUNT 2

Dierfire(1)

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Not_Mafia

Not_Mafia(1)

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Dierfire

Not Voting(3)

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Titus, Hopkirk, havingfitz

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch! Deadline is on October 14 at 08:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2015-10-14 20:00:00).

Mod Notes: None

[Hopkirk]

Vijay/Notmafia
(as vijay) Early stuff looks like trying to get a read. Early scumreads on veegee and texcat.
Pretty tunnelling on veegee.
(as notmafia)
Starts with gob vote and happy to hammer is good.
The texcat thing. The stoz hammer.
Dierfire vote today



Gob interactions
Never really reads gob. Pretty weird as Gob does stuff vijay attacks others for, but is pretty much ignored.
Dierfire interactions
133- Accused Samx (and fitz) of doing a very similar thing to his top scumread. Doesn’t really follow up on this until I asked him about it.
The vote today.
Titus interactions
Nothing really picked up on.

Slightly uncomfortable with 1.) a lot of this being technical instead of content, though most of notmafia’s content has been role related. 2.) Possibility NM is being kept alive as lynchbait.
I want to go through gob, I’ll try and do that later today.

@Notmafia: “Even if I'm scum I have no reason to lie about my result, he's scum either way”
So, ignoring present circumstances, why is the possibility that a mafia rolecop claiming rolecop and saying a VT is a pr that can’t be present in the setup during lylo, not at all possible? Why would mafia rolecop and town watcher be impossible but mafia watcher and town rolecop be possible?

I’m thinking notmafia/Dierfire seems like the most likely team at the moment. Want to do more reading/ seeing what happens before deciding which one to vote.

[Not_Mafia]

Cool, vote dierfire please

[Titus]

@Hopkirk, Can you run Dierfire Not Mafia interactions supposing today is a gambit?

[Titus]

I am definitely think Hopkirk town here based on his wall. Scum Hopkirk would likely open by voting me or going for a town vote here rather than analyzing content.

[Titus]

I am out most of the day. There's a slight chance I may be VLA next week due to work.

[Not_Mafia]

The claim by NM makes little objective sense. Why would I, as Mafia, kill Salamence rather than NM and risk discovery if I were investigated?
It makes considerably more sense from a Mafia perspective, however. NM thinks that he has enough votes to get me lynched, so he decided to push against me. This is LYLO, so he's hoping to coast off his proven Rolecop ability.[/quote

We've spent the last 2 gamedays talking about my lack of credibility, why are you presenting this like it's a new point?

VOTE: stoz

bye

Here's NM dropping a hammer on Stoz (rather early, ignoring some outstanding questions). After Stoz flips Town, he decides to investigate me--why? Wouldn't it have made more sense to investigate someone on the Stoz wagon?

Boring textbook attack

[Not_Mafia]

Really hoping fitz is scum here or we lose, my head says he's scum, gut says town

[havingfitz]

The fact the day/game isn't over shows that it's not town on town voting atm. So one of NM and/or Dierfire is definitely scum. If not both. So it's 50/50 if not 100% that Not_Mafia is scum. He's been scum to me the last day plus. And tbh I don't like Dierfire either so if one of them is town I'm screwed eventually.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

v/LA till Monday

[Not_Mafia]

Or the fact that he said my result was a lie

The amount of attention you pay to the gane and your finger wagging don't add up

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: Notmafia

[Not_Mafia]

Thought so

[Titus]

That doesn't have me feel good.

[Radja]

DAY 4, VOTECOUNT 3

Not_Mafia(3)

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Dierfire, havingfitz, Hopkirk - LYNCH

Dierfire(1)

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Not_Mafia

Not Voting(1)

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Titus

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch! Deadline is on October 14 at 08:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2015-10-14 20:00:00).

Mod Notes: None

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[Radja]

Not_Mafia was lynched. He was a...

Spoiler:

Town Rolecop

[Radja]

GAME OVER!!! Winners of this game:

Hopkirk, Mafia Goon

Dierfire, Mafia Watcher

gob, Mafia Roleblocker

Mafia wins!

Titus,

Vanilla Townie

and havingfitz,

Vanilla Townie

have been endgamed

Thanks for playing everybody! It was a pleasure to mod! Special thanks to the replacements!
This was the first game I modded. Any feedback would be nice!

[Not_Mafia]

Scum and dead pt please, thanks for.modding, game ran smoothly