Mini Normal 1797 Probably Not Actually Normal Mafia [GG]

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:34 am

If I saved dram I'm gonna be really salty cause I was not targeting specifically because I didn't want to prevent crosskills >_>
pedit scum actually have to crosskill

Nahdia · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:34 am

MURDERCAT wrote:If you kill dwlee we would have been in 2-1-1, correct? In that case we have to no lynch and hope scum cross kill.

i trust firebringer to be honorable and kill you.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:34 am

Town literally lynched all the scum except 1 and still barely won lol.

Nahdia · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:35 am

hey now, you know what you signed up for.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:35 am

In post 1001, Nahdia wrote:
MURDERCAT wrote:If you kill dwlee we would have been in 2-1-1, correct? In that case we have to no lynch and hope scum cross kill.
i trust firebringer to be honorable and kill you.

SK definitely deserves to win in that situation.

Nahdia · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:36 am

tbh the way Epicmafia avoids the problem of forced crosskilling is ideal. allowing joint wins for anti-town factions.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:37 am

I didn't sign up! I just walked into a normal game as a replacement! Very fun set up, despite how crazy it is.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:37 am

In post 1001, Nahdia wrote:
MURDERCAT wrote:If you kill dwlee we would have been in 2-1-1, correct? In that case we have to no lynch and hope scum cross kill.
i trust firebringer to be honorable and kill you.

not killing you is playing against win con ~~
pedit joint wins for anti-town is stupid. They have different win conditions..

Nahdia · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:39 am

In post 1007, Dwlee99 wrote:pedit joint wins for anti-town is stupid. They have different win conditions..

it's not stupid at all lol. win conditions are at the mercy of the mod. if you want to allow joints, you should.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:40 am

"You must be the only faction alive oh but not really you're actually aligned and can win together"

Nahdia · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:40 am

In post 1008, Nahdia wrote:win conditions are at the mercy of the mod.

Nahdia · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:42 am

on epicmafia, anti-town faction wincon is generally "you faction comprises half of the town".

1 SK and 1 Mafia, both achieve that wincon.

it's better than bad kingmaker situations which give town wins they don't deserve.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:42 am

In post 1011, Nahdia wrote:which give town wins they don't deserve.

orly

Nahdia · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:43 am

im not talking about this game, im saying in general the 2-1-1 situation is unfair for anti-town.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:43 am

I don't think town should win 2-1-1.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:43 am

depending on the situation i guess

Nahdia · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:51 am

actually come to think of it this is the first time i've ever been lynched except for getting quickhammered by scum or getting lynched as confirmed scum after winning a CC.

harsh, guys.

snoe · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:55 am

In post 989, Nahdia wrote:part of me wants to say i got robbed because i feel like the masons didn't even read this day and i think some of my points were pretty strong.

Your points

were

strong, but remember we had day talk - I did read through today before hammering, but the lack of a strong role-specific crumb really clinched it for me.

Nahdia · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:01 am

i... really hate that that was the reason. i did role crumb, technically. and even then, role crumbing shouldn't be a constant requirement.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:19 am

I mean dwlee had posts that pinged me at the time that he could be a PR, so it's not really a fair comparison.

ISO · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:32 am

At work, will post a retro later.

Nahdia is lynched. She was a serial killer.

Game is over. Town completes a perfect victory.

I think it's crazy that the town won this game despite not getting a cross kill until late in the game. Although, dwlee did prevent a cross kill on dramonic and nahdia was 1 shot bp and ate a shot n1.

The Masons in particular played really well. I'll post the mod thread which has all the actions and role PM's as well as the mafia and ww quick threads once I get permission from the players.

For the record, kts was force replaced because of claiming to have not read his role pm multiple times. I'm going to ask you not to discuss that here as obviously there are disagreements as to what happened with the player in question which are being handled via the list mods. If anyone has an issue with how the situation was handled they can feel free to pm me or n directly.

Thanks everyone for playing!

ISO · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:32 am

Also there were no other replacements this game! Wow!

Nahdia · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:33 am

thanks for modding man, i legit had a blast.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:37 am

In post 1022, Nahdia wrote:thanks for modding man, i legit had a blast.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:38 am

In post 1020, Thestatusquo wrote:Although, dwlee did prevent a cross kill on dramonic and nahdia was 1 shot bp and ate a shot n1.

this is why I was going to no target :C