Mini 2000 | Be Someone Else: uPick! [Game Over]

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VOTE: Aneninen
We meet again

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could all players please answer the following questions:

1. what games (with links) have you finished in the last 6 months?
2. how well are you liked on site?
3. what is your personal definition of lurking?
4. of the players in this game, which players have you played with in the last six months?
5. what other names do you play mafia under here?
6. what other sites have you played at within the last six months?

1. Newbie 1849 and 1854; Open 714. No links tho, cause I don't know how to do that.
2. I don't understand the question. If it is what I think it is, I really don't know lol
3. Not giving any thoughtful content in a large period of time.
4. Redflavor I replaced in in a game he replaced out and a Micro where everyone was town; Kokichi ongoing game; mutant and Aneninen my scumpartners in Open 714; Paradox and Gamma in multiple occasions; and CheekyTeeky in Newbie 1849 where she was the MVP.
5. None.
6. None.

Could you answer to this questions too, please?

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4) All except you, and technically red since I've only replaced him.

I still attest to the fact that we lost the game partly because of your replace in. (and pin+brass too)

I insist: Cheeky MVP of that game.

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MY READS ARE 100% ACCURATE AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME WILL BE LIABILITY LYNCHED

Oh, you're Mathdino?

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Lol, I think he's just doing RC wrong :/

Yeah I know, I thought that too... But I had to roast Dino

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VOTE: Aneninen
We meet again

VOTE: pintu

You can't give a shout out to one of your ex-scum partners and not the other!

I'm sorry, I wanted to vote both of you but I didn't want to mess up the votecount for the mod.
VOTE: mutant
Here you go buddy!

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(Note to everyone: don't let Pintu play the noob card, he is a perfectly capable player )

What? Me? I'm a newbie!

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I mean Creature is known for being obvtown as town so it makes sense

Nice observation. And I didn't know that our flavor would affect our alignment, that makes sense to me too. I will not try to imitate my flavor though, I think I would dishonour that person

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I don’t think it matters

People think the earth is flat. It doesn’t make it right.

What do you mean by "people

think

the earth is flat"?

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I don’t think it matters

People think the earth is flat. It doesn’t make it right.

What do you mean by "people

think

the earth is flat"?

Go check out the Flat Earth Society my friend, you'll have a laugh.

Lol I meant it as a joke, like saying that the earth

is

flat, but maybe the delivery was a little off.

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Where's Pintu and Anen? They've never been the most active of players but I feel like they'd be a little more enthusiastic as to not fall into prod territory.

I'm reading everything but can't post too much, limited access and only on my phone until sunday, so I'm evading posting unless I see something that calls enough my attention. Sorry for not announcing this before, this game is just getting started so I didn't feel it was necessary

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Look at scum resisting the gamma lynch. I wonder who is going to be the one to reluctantly buss for town cred?Pint? Fuzzy?

????? Why fuzz and me and not the other players who aren't voting? I haven't said anything about Gamma. I haven't said anything about anything at all. Weird.

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Also Gamma's at L-1, scum resisting wagon??? Double weird.

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Furthermore, @Pintu consider my eye on you. When I was scum with Pintu, he did a good job of playing the noob card and flying under the radar. So I do think TGP has a point here.

I already said that I had trouble posting last weekend because I was out and only phone posting, and this day started yesterday when I was going to sleep. Yeez, what do you want from me
Also, I'm not playing the newb card right now, and I don't I'll do it... Yet

Screenplay is obv!scum by the way. "Scum is resisting Gamma's wagon" when the wagon was at L-2 and tries to set two random suspects because of this (Fuzzy and me). I believe Screen was trying to build the wagon to separate himself from Gamma if he ever flipped scum, but didn't really think that Gamma would get lynched. So thanks Screen for that!

VOTE: Screenplay

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Gamma and Mutant is TvS.

I neither agree nor disagree with this statement.

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Why getting Cheeky to L-1 instead of Screenplay?

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Yeah, we will lynch Screenplay after Pigman. One at a time. If we have a vig that vig should shoot Screen.

Ok I like you, very much indeed. Why Porkens before Screen? What if there's no vig?

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Those of you wanting the pig dead, why do you think he would choose to hammer his teammate instead of doing something more beneficial for his own team like, idk, allowing him to fake claim?

I don't think scum would ever have hammered like that in such a situation. It's such a stupid thing to do and I hope I'm not being too polite in considering porkens to be more intelligent than that.

It could have been staged. Scum private thread: "hey guys, if one of us ever gets to L-1, it should be one of us to quickhammer so we get towncred as quickhammering a partner is so stupid it could work"

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Aren't you playing with your hydra? But I agree, mutant is absolutely town in this game, but I don't know if the 1v1 makes Screen scummier... He's scum tho

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W/e

I gain information about the game each day start.
D1. There is a third party. That’s why I was waiting for sk to claim vig.
D2. Hoods. There are 4 pt’s In this game.

@Mutant I don't know what to make of it. Is he claiming some kind of setup peak that's giving him info? If there is a 3rd party then why was only TGP dead this morning?

There could be a Jester (aka Aneninen). What pings me is why he felt the need of claiming here. Also, the claim makes sense either as scum or town; I even think that knowing that there is a third party is more useful for scum and his desperate attempt of getting a vig claim could be because of that.

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W/e

I gain information about the game each day start.
D1. There is a third party. That’s why I was waiting for sk to claim vig.
D2. Hoods. There are 4 pt’s In this game.

@Mutant I don't know what to make of it. Is he claiming some kind of setup peak that's giving him info? If there is a 3rd party then why was only TGP dead this morning?

There could be a Jester (aka Aneninen). What pings me is why he felt the need of claiming here. Also, the claim makes sense either as scum or town; I even think that knowing that there is a third party is more useful for scum and his desperate attempt of getting a vig claim could be because of that.

I was concerned at first about why he would claim at that moment. But trust me, he is telling the truth about his role.

In his claim he didn't say which was his alignment, so I don't think he's lying about his role, I think he's scum with that role

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Lol my lynchpool has three players of your list, and my lynchpool has three players only

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I'm fucking dying with Aneninen this game. I'm willing to lynch him just to know what is going on

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In his claim he didn't say which was his alignment, so I don't think he's lying about his role, I think he's scum with that role

You bump your head?

Free shading

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VOTE: Porkens

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If Porkens is replaced by someone more enthusiastic I'm going to be very happy.

Why? Are you his partner?

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VOTE: Screenplay awww you missed me?

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If Porkens is replaced by someone more enthusiastic I'm going to be very happy.

Why? Are you his partner?

Porkens is town I said this please read the game

Oh sorry didn't know you said Porkens was town sorry Porkens is town then

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Who'se scum Wheme?

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EBWOP who's

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I’m just trying to give explanation to 4 pts

Do the hydras have their own PT? I've never hydraed with someone

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I would say I didn't expect that, but I would be lying and my mom told me I shouldn't lie

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I would say I didn't expect that, but I would be lying and my mom told me I shouldn't lie

Liar

I'm telling you, I don't lie. Ask me anything

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I would say I didn't expect that, but I would be lying and my mom told me I shouldn't lie

Liar

I'm telling you, I don't lie. Ask me anything

Do you have a pt

Nope, and I think you are right that the pts should claim, but I don't know anything about neighbors as I've never played with that and how that's beneficial. Do they know the alignment of the other player?

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I am checking to see how hard that is to decode, give me a moment.
I don't think Screenplay is scum with Gamma Emerald, if someone wants to tell me why they are go ahead.

Isn't coding against the rules?

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I am your god and am not bound by your rules.

Lord Helix? I-is that you?!?

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VOTE: mutant

VOTE: paradox

VOTE: wheme

VOTE: gamma

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

UNVOTE:

VOTE: mutant

VOTE: Pinocchio

VOTE: Kokichi

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Pinocchio

Will Screenplay ever explain any of his votes and unvotes? Find out in the next exciting episode of Dragon Ball Z!

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Alice I'm happy to watch. Liking him pushing a scum read and reassessing things.
Srceenplay I'm assuming is town because of the setup peaks - which is a similar role to one I've had as town.
Kokichi idk I'm not going to pretend I can read his intent. Don't like him voting srceenplay but at the same time I like his interactions.
Pinc & Anen feel scummy in that they've given mainly fluff and hardly any strong stances but are they just trolling for other reasons? I don't see a clear agenda there.
TWC I'm avoiding sorting because I have mixed feelings about both heads but I did like their hydra dissonance for town and they see the same things I did with Porkens so feel like they're assessing the game from a towny pov.
Red is IC.
TFL & Wheme are ??? TFL I like best of all 4 low game content slots because he has moments of obvious sorting that I don't see from the others.

So willing to lynch

Mutant > Pinc > Ane rn.

I'm just having fun. I have no strong reads at this moment, only reads I trust from me are Kokichi and Alice town because of their back and forth posts. Kokichi's "desperation" seemed townie, and Alice active scumhunting feels real. I still don't like Screenplay but it could be a playstyle thing instead of an alignment thing. Mutant is playing different than the time I was scum with him; he's actively scumhunting and trusting his reads, which looks like he's trying to improve. He knows his reads are bad, but as scum he uses that as an excuse; here he seems to be trying to convince himself that he can do it better. I don't trust you that much especially because you are willing to lynch me and Anen before Wheme who is posting as much fluff as Anen and me, so I can see an asociation there. I don't remember the rest of the players, and that's not good: they could be lurking.

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Oh and about Wheme and Anen: I'm having fun with them so I don't want them lynched yet

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Fine let's go

VOTE: Pinturicchio

Am I tunneling Mutant for his bs approach to me today? I don't really feel like I am but eh.

Pint the reason I suspect you two over the others is because I feel like you're both doing just enough to try and avoid attention whereas Wheme looks like he dgaf and TFL is actually trying.

Who is TFL

Also very arbitrary to say me and Anen are trying to avoid attention and Wheme dgaf when it could be the other way around, but yeah ok

Already stated why I'm not contributing: I don't have strong reads yet, my best reads were Screenplay and Porkens and Screenplay claimed and Porkens is gone. Still concerned about the results Screenplay gave us because they could be fake.

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Also @Cheeky I gave you my read of the state of the actual game on my post and you just ignored it or...?

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Never said it was a scum claim, I said it could be his playstyle, but I'm just not that convinced with his claim because no one is saying anything about said PTs. He says there are 4 PTs, one for scumteam and the other 3... what could it be? I don't know what hoods are, I've never seen a game with that

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Also, are you voting me because my reads are bad then? Because that's NAI as far as I'm concerned

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Or as far as I know, sorry bad english

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My townreads: Pinocchio, Cheeky, Kokichi, Mutant

Unfortunately the above 4 are running around in circles and voting each other.


RedFlavour our glorious town IC is doing

absolutely nothing

.

For shame.

Hey, I'm still voting Screenplay. Redflavor is V/LA I think

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Aneninen is EldritchAbomination BTW

Pretty much obvious

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Lol my lynchpool has three players of your list, and my lynchpool has three players only

What do you think about kiana?

Who is Kiana

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I'm here bae relax, let me read what you posted

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Lol my lynchpool has three players of your list, and my lynchpool has three players only

What do you think about kiana?

pedit: The worlds ugliest

Forgot about them when I gave my readlist lol but I already said I liked the way they're posting. A little harsh with mutant I must say, but I like their progression

VOTE: Porkens

Werent you scumreading aneninen? Why are you voting with him?

Never scumread Aneninen

Mutant > Pinc > Ane

That seems familiar

That would be hilarious

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1

(which isn't really RQS I guess because it's very forward with its solving intent)

2

@ Gamma- You are oaky man....just dont be scum like last game so we dont have to lynch you

This seems unnecessarily weird and slightly like buddying. Gamma can you like tell us if he's buddying or that's just playstyle?

Srceenplay as you're saying I'm being paranoid but can't point out reasons, then try to "sort" my nonexistent paranoia as town or scum while encouraging more votes on me? I'm scumleaning you for this.
VOTE: Srceenplay

I think it's his normal tone/style? It sounds similar to other things I think he's said but I don't remember him making a comment quite like this.[/quote]

3

Kiana why are you saying RVS is scum? You've seen me do it as town before

4

VOTE: TGP
I actually feel like Porkens logic is pretty good, scum generally don't want to make waves so they don't really react that strongly to stuff like RQS, unless like they have a policy against it (which is stupid imo).

5

By the way RQS is scummy.

yaaaaawn
this automatically makes me suspect Anen cos like this feels like too late of a chime-in to be a natural thought process

6

Look at scum resisting the gamma lynch. I wonder who is going to be the one to reluctantly buss for town cred?Pint? Fuzzy?

Wow. Scum resisting my lynch and I'm at L-2. Doesn't really makes sense does it? Dude is trying to strongarm my lynch with bullshit rhetoric.
VOTE: Srceenplay

7

Gamma, it would be appreciated if you could give any final thoughts and reads?

Currently suspecting Porkens and Anen. Srceenplay should also be looked into.

- 1 and 4 suggests Porkens as Gamma's partner, and 7 could be Gamma attempting to separate himself from him
- 2, 6 and 7 suggests Screenplay as partner, since scum!Gamma could've told TFL that Screenplay was indeed being scummy in 2, and in 6 and 7, when Gamma was practically lynched, he separates from Screenplay.
- 2 also suggests town!TFL
- 5 and 7 suggests town!Anen

Sorry for not contributing that much, I've been having a rough week, but I'll have more time from now on

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Sorry I fucked up number 2, it should be a quote from Screenplay, then TFL and then Gamma replying TFL

Also I saw something that suggested town!TWC too, let me check again

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Looking through the thread and saw this.

@ Gamma- You are oaky man....just dont be scum like last game so we dont have to lynch you

This seems unnecessarily weird and slightly like buddying. Gamma can you like tell us if he's buddying or that's just playstyle?

Srceenplay as you're saying I'm being paranoid but can't point out reasons, then try to "sort" my nonexistent paranoia as town or scum while encouraging more votes on me? I'm scumleaning you for this.
VOTE: Srceenplay

I think it's his normal tone/style? It sounds similar to other things I think he's said but I don't remember him making a comment quite like this.

Damn I misread number 2 entirely, sorry. My case on Screenplay being Gamma's partner is now shit
UNVOTE: Screenplay

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Orrrr people could sort me out by the Gamma's ISO I provided instead of ignoring it and try to make some momentum in it like Kokichi and Screenplay implied with their last posts

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Give momentum to my wagon I meant. Damn I'm really getting worse and worse in this english thing

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Nah

VOTE: AliceRaider

Porkens' associations with Gamma are still there

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Pintu

No, please no.

Sell me scum!TWC, I'm not buying it right now

I'm pretty sure you're town and Red is conf!town so I see town motivation there, and as Screenplay would say, "scum resisting TWC's wagon" is a possibility

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Is there any reason why this place got so quiet? There's less than 6 days for deadline

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At this point just want a lynch

a

lynch? Like anyone?

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@mutant sell me TWC scum, I trust you more than anyone here

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Hey pinturiccio. Im going to eventually vote you so we get a lynch. Convince me not to.

@mutant sell me TWC scum, I trust you more than anyone here

I mean here is the thing. You are at the top of the lynch list at the moment. IS TWC so town to to that you would rather get lynched?

Hey Vax. I don't see any thougtful reason to lynch TWC, neither me. I've asked mutant twice to sell me TWC and he hasn't provided.

I see naked votes on me and a lot of crap on my wagon; people just wants a lynch for the sake of it, not for catching scum.

Kokichi says "I'll vote the biggest wagon I guess", Wheme says "Can I sheep my town person", you say "I'm going to eventually vote you", how can I convince people not to vote me if there's nothing on me?

I provided with Gamma's most suspicious interactions since we have a mafia lynch on day one and no one commented about it. I unvoted Screenplay after acknowlegding that I misread some posts and no one commented about it. Do you think that's scummy? To unvote one of the other wagons? Not voting for TWC, the other wagon? I think my behavior in this game has been pretty townie and people is voting me because I haven't engaged that much for lack of time; I had 4 tests in a row this week, of course my investment decreased.

Want something suspicious?

I think mutant is scum out of gamma and mutant

If I had to lynch someone, it would be Wheme. Read his ISO and tell me how has he helped in this entire game. If you don't have time, just read his D2 interactions. Last two posts were "I'm too lazy to decode that" talking about Alice's entrance. After that, he comes and says "can I sheep my town person?". He's practically tunneling Mutant since D1.

VOTE: WhemeStar

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One more thing: if anyone is thinking "maybe Pin is TWC's scumpartner and he doesn't want to vote her because she could have a better role"... Then vote TWC, not me, duh

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Lol the wagon on me

Also why do you scumread me for saying “I’m to lazy to decode that”

She’s taking in code and I’m to lazy to decode it

I said that you have not helped at all, that your last three posts are two posts saying "I'm not going to decode that" and a third post saying "can I follow my town person", proving that you are not giving meaningful thoughts and practically active lurking. Never said I'm scumreading you for saying what you said. Your misrepresentation is one more prove that you're not helping at all.

Voting for me and explicitly saying its OMGUS, one more proof for my case on you. Impressive how a little push on you got the worst reaction possible

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Hmm.
I’m at a loss on who to vote and I don’t remember most my thoughts on the slots.

The long nose guy felt frustrated towny in their last post.

Maki sure is throwing out a lot of town reads.

Wheme is blah.

I’m apprehensive of Alice and mutant but think they are probably town.

CheekyTeeky I’m not sure on.

Is fuzzy the only one I’m missing?

Want to scumread Fuzzy? Two days with a wagon formed on me and he doesn't contribute at all; a Wheme's wagon start forming and he tries to start a wagon on Kokichi. If Kokichi is town and Wheme is scum, Fuzzy is his partner

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UNVOTE:

That's a solid observation Pint. It bothers me though that you never really contributed quality posts until a wagon formed on you. Did you announce VLA earlier or are you saying you were busy in hindsight?

I think TFL just put a vote down when I asked those not voting to vote. TFL why Kokichi?

I didn't announce V/LA, but I think I said I was going to be busy. Maybe I didn't in this thread because it wasn't necessary as this game is not as intense as others, I don't remember.

About quality posts: that's subjective. You are basically saying that if you like a post, you think it's a quality post. I have contributed as much as I can, but you didn't agree with most of them. That doesn't make them less qualified

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Pintu is scum who tries to avoid his own lynch by lynching the easiest player he can

Or Pin is town who tries to lynch scum

Or Pin is town who tries to avoid his own lynch by lynching a player who has not contributed at all

Or Pin... You get it, right?

Say something useful. There are four people voting you, not just me. I could've voted TWC, a wagon that was already formed, instead of forming a new wagon.

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Oh, "you never really contributed quality posts until a wagon formed on you" felt a little harsh, not trying to argue

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EldrichAbomination, 16 headed hydra or something like that. That's why Aneninen posted like Dino, Almost50 and a lot more

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For fucks sake screenplay

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Could you at least explain what's going on through your head?

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just me saying stupid things i guess.

If you're town, could you

not

say stupid things when we are close to the deadline? Even if you're trying to make a reaction test by playing "mislynchable" to see who jumps onto your wagon, it's not a good idea with so little time.

Could you provide some content? Like, a readlist or some shit like that

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VOTE: CheekyTeeky

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Cheeky, why would Mutant lie as town?

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Cheeky, why would Mutant lie as town?

I have seen fake guilties claimed by town more than scum with varying results. Scum doing so is not optimal unless I pose a big risk to scum which I doubt as this game is a snoozefest.

Yeah, I've seen town fake guilties too, but mutant is not just "town"; I'm asking why would Mutant lie, not why would town lie. Do you know Mutant? Have you played with him before? Because I have, I have read plenty of his games to know how to sort him, and he wouldn't fake a claim. Mutant trust his reads less than an old man's trust on a fart, so fakeclaiming because he trust in his own read on you is not a possibility.

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So either srceenplay is the SK - but then what happened to his kill and how does he know about our neighborhoods?

Cheeky was softclaiming a neighborhood here, right?

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Hey Mr. Mutant, why do you think you weren't killed last night? Do you think that Screenplay's info was better than yours? And what did you got this night, what was your power?

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Oh wait, he already confirmed TFL, great! Another question then: what do you think, are we going against one or two more scums?

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Ok I counted the amount of pagetops everyone got from D1 and D2 and both days Mutant won, so there's no way he made a gambit killing his partner. That makes RedFlavor, Mutant and Fuzzy all town confirmed. We are 9 now, one mislynch and mutant is killed, 7 players; second mislynch and red is killed, 5 players; third mislynch and fuzzy is killed, 3 players.

If there's one more scum, we have three mislynches until 3p LyLo. If there's two more scum, we have 2 mislynches and 5p LyLo. BUT, Screenplay said there was a third party! That means we have even less mislynches. Then, I'll assume that there's only one more scum, as 4 scums and a third party would make this game awful for town, and NSG and Dino loves them balance.

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Then, assuming the worst (two town mislynches), we would be on a 5 players MyLo with one confirmed town, two other towns, one scum and the third party, assuming third party is only one player because I don't know other third parties beside from SK and Survivor

We got this

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Well, after rereading Gamma and Cheeky's ISO together, I got Aneninen (Vax) as town, and Wheme as the most possible third scum partner (Gamma didn't interact with him at all, Cheeky almost no interactions too)

VOTE: WhemeStar

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@Mutant worst case scenario, we have two mislynches. We could reduce our lynchpool to two and get better chances. I see that you, me and Vax are in the same place (well you're not townreading Vax but almost), and you're including Alice to your townreads (I'm still paranoid about that slot, but I could follow you; you've been reading the game with scum!Cheeky confirmed longer than me). That would leave Wheme, Kokichi and Maki: two mislynches, one scum. Of course, we could be wrong somewhere (Alice, for example), so the best way to win this game is to townhunt this slots and win by PoE

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should of figured Mutant would ruin my fun........ not sure why you would investigate me as Ive been pretty townie all game.

You can still have fun sorting who else is town!

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Sorry I just want to be sure: @Mutant is there by any chance that your result is wrong? Maybe TFL being Godfather, or something like that... I don't know much about roles

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I agree with your boss on both statements.

VOTE: Hanamaki Sakuragi

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VOTE: Maki Harukawa
Renaming the vote so the automatic votecounter recognizes it

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That's L-1

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UNVOTE: Maki[/vote]
I'll unvote just for the chance that Wheme comes and lolhammer, but count it like my vote is there, so intent to hammer if anyone else wants to vote seriously

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Fuck
UNVOTE: Maki

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I wouldn't worry about lolhammering tbh, because if anyone did that, we'd just fucking lynch 'em

Yeah but Wheme could lolhammer as town and that would mean we got our mislynches away because of anti town playstyle.

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Oh, selfvoting, that's even more anti town than Wheme
VOTE: Maki

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A lynch has been achieved!

...I don't have mod powers so here's confirmation and some more high quality advice! Flip incoming.

Votecount 1.9

5. Make sure the traits you want to develop are sustainable.

^[4]You need to be able to keep up these good qualities long-term until they become a part of who you are. If you lie to people about what you can do or who you are, it is not likely to go well when they find out the truth–and they will, eventually.

• Don’t act like a wealthy person when you only have a few dollars in your pocket and can’t afford dinner for two, let alone that vacation to Hawaii.
  
• Don’t pretend to know about cars to get a date and happen to end up on the side of the road with a blown out tire you don’t know how to change.
  
• Likewise, learn to play an instrument or cook before attempting to impress someone with your know-how.

Gamma Emerald (7):

Srceenplay, TheGoldenParadox, Policy, CheekyTeeky, RedFlavor, mutantdevle, Porkens

mutantdevle (3):

pinturicchio, WhemeStar, Kokichi Oma

WhemeStar (1):

TheFuzzylogic99

Porkens (1):

The Worlds Cutest

Srceenplay (1):

Gamma Emerald

TheGoldenParadox (0):

CheekyTeeky (0):

TheFuzzylogic99 (0):

pinturicchio (0):

Kokichi Oma (0):

Aneninen (0):

RedFlavor (0):

The Worlds Cutest (0):

Not voting (1):

Aneninen

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch.

The day one deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-07 18:20:59).

No you didn't. You weren't on Gamma's wagon, and Mutant caught Cheeky.

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Lol and you weren't on Cheeky's wagon either

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Sorry Red, I'm not going to be the second mislynch, it has to be between Kokichi, Wheme and Alice. I'm impressed that no one has suggested a massive claim at this point, as it seems that there are no more PRs and we have a friendly neighborizer that must be town, right? Don't we want to know that first before voting (and letting Kokichi vote without giving any sort of explanation and without contributing)?

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Not lynching Pintu till are sure he scum . No need for a quick lynch and possibly mislynch a second town.

I agree

Could you unvote then? I'm paranoid of Wheme

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Is there any reason Kokichi is town

What do you think Wheme? Do you think there's a reason Kokichi is either town or scum?

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You mean my tr? Alice. And you and fuzzy are confirmed town to each other right?

And Vax is my townread, so we lynch Wheme then. But you're not confirmed, neither am I. Could you contribute more? Having Wheme in this game is enough. If Wheme is town, he's playing anti town as shit as he's coming to a position where mislynching him is a piece of cake, but maybe he's waiting for someone to push him and start saying "you're pushing me because you're scum and I'm the easy mislynch" (he already did this when I started pushing him, awful playstyle). Problem is, this doesn't work when another person mimics his playstyle, and you're partially doing that. So who of you is being anti town, and who of you is being scummy? Town it up

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What happened with Vax that I'm not seeing? Red can we talk? Are you here?

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Hi, let's talk. Stagnating the game is not helping. I know being an IC for so long must be boring but we need you and TFL here. Tell me about Vax, Kokichi and Alice, especially Kokichi; I think Wheme has been consistently anti town and that makes me believe he could be town, but Kokichi started playing with another tone, reacted badly when he got some pressure coming from Alice, and now he's like mimicking Wheme. What do you think?

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And his vote history is atrocious

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Well, after rereading Gamma and Cheeky's ISO together, I got Aneninen (Vax) as town, and Wheme as the most possible third scum partner (Gamma didn't interact with him at all, Cheeky almost no interactions too)

VOTE: WhemeStar

Ok no, I reread Gamma and Cheeky's ISO together AGAIN and I came to the same conclusion, sorry. Kokichi, if you're hard townreading Alice, vote Wheme with me.
VOTE: WhemeStar

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@Vax if you're between Kokichi and Wheme, vote Wheme too. Let's wrap this up

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Whem is giving me a headache and vax is terrible. Honestly I could lynch either one of the atm

Why is Vax so terrible?

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Well, after rereading Gamma and Cheeky's ISO together, I got Aneninen (Vax) as town, and Wheme as the most possible third scum partner (Gamma didn't interact with him at all, Cheeky almost no interactions too)

VOTE: WhemeStar

Ok no, I reread Gamma and Cheeky's ISO together AGAIN and I came to the same conclusion, sorry. Kokichi, if you're hard townreading Alice, vote Wheme with me.
VOTE: WhemeStar

I don’t think I’ve interacted with Half of the playerlist

Yes I know that, but is the scumteam interactions with you that pings me. I'll give Gamma's interaction a pass since he was lynched on D1, but Cheeky never interacted nor pushed you on D2, and a troll is an easy mislynch, so I would expect her and her partner to push you a little further, but she never did, and the only other person who pushed you a little was me, so where's Cheeky's partner? I'll quote some Cheeky's posts to demonstrate this

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Yeah but it's weird af that porkens hammered after jumping from TGP to Mutant - it's like he felt pressured into riding the wagon for towncred...which is what you're giving to him now.

Screenplay and Kokichi vote Porkens with me.

Both posts indicate (and a lot of Cheeky's approach on Porkens) that Alice is town.

Aneninen really only gets enough rateablility to dodge today tbh. I say he never makes Lylo along with Pinc.

Why Aneninen and Pinc and no talk about the troll lurker Wheme?

Alice I'm happy to watch. Liking him pushing a scum read and reassessing things.
Srceenplay I'm assuming is town because of the setup peaks - which is a similar role to one I've had as town.
Kokichi idk I'm not going to pretend I can read his intent. Don't like him voting srceenplay but at the same time I like his interactions.
Pinc & Anen feel scummy in that they've given mainly fluff and hardly any strong stances but are they just trolling for other reasons? I don't see a clear agenda there.
TWC I'm avoiding sorting because I have mixed feelings about both heads but I did like their hydra dissonance for town and they see the same things I did with Porkens so feel like they're assessing the game from a towny pov.
Red is IC.
TFL & Wheme are ??? TFL I like best of all 4 low game content slots because he has moments of obvious sorting that I don't see from the others.

So willing to lynch

Mutant > Pinc > Ane rn.

Again, Pinc and Anen feel scummy for being fluffy, but Wheme is ??? when he could be judged for the same thing.

Red and TFL conf!town
Alice and Vax (and me from others' point of view), only from Cheeky's interactions, are town
So between Kokichi and Wheme, my kingdom for a vote on Wheme, given the lack of push coming from the scumteam

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Yo @TFL, now that I think of it, if we lynch town today, you will certainly be the nightkill since RedFlavor's role is being the IC. Do you have any "power" that could help us solve this?

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Pin do we have a completed game together

Yes, the one where I was Jigglypuff and everybody hated me

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@Pint.....
if we lynch town today I am sure me or Red will be NK..... prob me,,,,, I have accepted my death . I all want is town to win

That's exactly what I'm saying, and that's why I asked if you have any sort of night action or something. I don't know if you answer has some sort of enigma that I'm not catching or...

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Kokichi > Wheme > Vax > Pintu > you > fuzzy > Red.

This is paraphrased and the preferred lynch order of Mutant that guy that died.

Yeah, and he was sure that the hydra was Cheeky's partner and he was wrong. Also, he stated more than once that Kokichi could be town. You took ONE post and said "hey, I'm not saying it, mutant did".

Unvote, vote Wheme, win

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That's L-1 on Wheme

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I kinda dont have reads atm...

What are you thinking right now?

Deadline is in 7 days, let's not wait until 2 days or less to engage

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I am really turned off by Vax calling for claims
please no body claim. The only reason I claimed was because I am dying tonight. Also his unvote on Whelm and explanation seems off.

Whelm doesn't seem to scum. I would say his play seems antitown.

In what world do you think Vax unvotes Wheme when Wheme is the "easy mislynch" today?

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it was his reaction more than his unvote.

Sure, but he unvoted. Why would he unvote as scum

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At this point mass claim is goign to help us not hurt us.

You're asking Kokichi to explain why massclaiming would be bad, but you haven't explained why it would be good. Could you? Because I'm fencesitting around the idea, I don't know the pros and the cons of a massclaim at this point

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I (my heads) can figure this out if we all claim

Could you tell us why your heads would figure this out with the massclaim? Or what your heads are thinking right now? Because you're doing nothing

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At least Aneninen was fluffing

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You mean tomorrow as D5, right? I think I agree with you, but I don't get why Vax wants the massclaim so badly instead of contributing... Is an ego thing? Like you want to be the one who solve the game? (and by 'you' I mean your heads, not you individually)

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@Wheme why are you voting the player you think is 3p instead of the player you think is scum?

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How is pint pretty much cleared?

Lol, are you getting afraid of PoE?

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Why is everybody posting like they are fucking over with this game???? If you're all bored let's just finish it instead of dragging it closer to the deadline??? I don't understand

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I saw we lynch kokichi and wheme

That's exactly where I am. Vax and Alice are not scum. Vote for either, I'll follow, but I believe the game ends faster if you vote Wheme

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I'm just having fun. I have no strong reads at this moment, only reads I trust from me are Kokichi and Alice town because of their back and forth posts. Kokichi's "desperation" seemed townie, and Alice active scumhunting feels real.

What happened to this read, Pint?

I'm voting Wheme, right? I don't like your last posts about me, but I think we're in the exact opposite position: "if Wheme is town, then it's Kokichi/Pin" so I won't bother, Wheme is the remaining scum

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What last posts? You mean me voting you? Yes, but how does that affect how you were so sure I was town regardless of my voting patterns?

I still think you're town, that's why I'm voting Wheme and not you. What's your point?

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Come on Vax, no one agrees with your heads. Could you step up and do something elsa? There's no need to extend this until the deadline comes

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Mastina wants to lock the game down by having everyone claim today. If we claim tomorrow, scum will have 2 more flips which they can use to their advantage to lie about thier roles. If we full claim now we can lock in everyone roles and actions to help figure on the game.

Is that explained well enough?

Yes I get that better now, thanks! But Mafia will lie today too, and we have enough flips to think a good fakeclaim, right? I'm with Red here, if we don't lynch Wheme today and whoever dies today flips town, we will lynch him tomorrow... So better to lynch him now and not on LyLo/MyLo

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Nope, he's on L-1 right now, and I'm not unvoting until he tell us his targets, because his claim is boring as hell compared to what we have seen flipped

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@wheme tell us NOW about Alice

@Alice tell us if Wheme lies

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For fucks sake just vote for Wheme and let's finish this. If Wheme's not saying his Alice's claim we still know that Alice is town (if not, Wheme should be banned), so it will be easier tomorrow to sort thins out, but at this point I can't see anyone else being scum. Vax not lynching Wheme pings me as town, he could have finished this long enough... So if has to be between Kokichi and me tomorrow, so be it

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This is much more likely to be mafia trolling than town trolling

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Don't "Jesus Christ" us, Wheme, don't act like we are being senseless here

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Well, I still believe Wheme is scum, and this is my call: Wheme is lying about the order of his checks. mutant dying on N3 instead of N2 was really really weird, but now I think Wheme checked Screenplay on N1 and that's why he decided to kill him instead of mutant on N2; Screenplay would get more and more info about the setup, and that could be a threat for scum when they had to claim (like now, for example). What if Screenplay gets the information that there is a mafia rolecop in this setup? He would now know that Wheme is the remaining scum... So better kill the player who can counterclaim instead of the player who has a low chance to get a guilty. Best case scenario, mutant would claim an inno and that's it.

I really don't see any better explanation of scum killing Screenplay instead of mutant

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Yes, that's why I said "I really don't see any better explanation..." . Do you think there's a better reason than that? I'm working with what I have, and what I have is... that you're still the scummiest player of the remaining players

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Wheme, if you had to judge between Kokichi and you, who would yo think is scummier? If you answer "Kokichi", you're wrong.

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I had this meme made in case I got lynched/killed



Thank you NSG and Dino, it was a great flavor and a great experience!

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Oh, and fyi:

I'm just having fun.

This was me crumbing I was a Survivor

Come on Vax, no one agrees with your heads. Could you step up and do something elsa? There's no need to extend this until the deadline comes

And as the dead thread noticed, I softclaimed Elsa Jay in this post; I thought that Eldrich Abomination' heads would get the crumb and sort me out by it, but they were already hard townreading me

Thank you Elsa for being and inspiration, it was fun being a 3p!

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I don't think it was townsided. If town mislynched on D1 this game would've been so different. I was rooting for town because town was winning and the game would end earlier, increasing my chances to win, but with a mislynch on D1, I would've been rooting the scumteam. Also, what are the odds of the tracker catching the second scum on N1... The game was not townsided itself, it became townsided after D1 and N1.

@NSG, if you want to mod this game again with new picks, count me in!