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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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NOOOOOO.......NOOOOOOO.........HELP ME........BRIGITTE!!!!! GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE: TOBY SCUMBAG FLENDERSON
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Yeah well I'm going to one-up you here and inform you that Toby Flenderson is SCUMMMMMMMMMMMM!!! Join the bandwagon on him!!!In post 15, Brigitte wrote:Ohh I have some game info I can unload btw.
I have been informed that Reality Check is town.
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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You DON'T want to know who he is, but vote for him please!!!
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Please Brigitte. If you vote for Toby I promise to make you assistant to the assistant to the regional manager.
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You broke it, Brigitte.
It was Implosion <- Brigitte <- Fractured <- Michael Scott.
You made it a loop! Unless you go back and vote Implosion again. And Lovebird votes us, so the chain can continue.-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Nope, as far as I recall. Perhaps you spectated Starcract Mafia 2 which we played in, though.-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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None per se but I get townfeelz from Brigitte.
I'll trust Brigitte that Reality Check is town for now.
Also I'm not signing as well :3-
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Why do you think this comes from scum, apart from your recall? Tone?In post 362, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:
I don't like! Why let them off the hook like this? If they're scum, they've bought themselves a very easy townread. But more than that, if they're scum and you're town, what could convince you to vacate that townread? Their play later on? This statement of yours bothers meIn post 360, GuiltyLion wrote:not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town-
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Because?In post 212, mbaki wrote:VOTE: Michael Scott
I won't push your lynch because , but I believe you're more likely scum than town.-
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I'll read the thread and catch up later in the day, if I'm able to.-
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You better townread me then.In post 586, RadiantCowbells wrote:This is Dwight schrute and I am the assistant regional manager-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Me too.In post 671, Brigitte wrote:Ummm nothing. I am just not finding a lot of content here parsing that is helping me get reads-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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My activity pattern on a whole isn't so good for reasons. I'm fully aware I've only posted 'meh' content so far, haven't read the thread.
Take it as temp VLA for a day.-
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Actually, shift in priorities. Gimme an hour.
Volxen's MIA too >.>-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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ISO skim leaves me with a strong townread on Fractured.
1. RVS mindmeld on townreads - I'd imagine scum would pick apart and attack one of the RVS posters, I was expecting to be called awkward for it.
2. 528 and 631 - Clear, transparent stances on things early in the game without any real need to. +town indicative.-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Explain the thought progression(s) behind these votes.
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I see a lot of shade towards Fractured but no real case? (Forgive me, still just looking at ISOs)In post 466, GuiltyLion wrote:can I sell you onto Fractured instead
Sell it to me, Hobbes.
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Anything you want to talk about? I'm here a while.In post 690, Fractured wrote:wtf the quotes keep disappearing, I've tried 3 times and only one shows up when I go to preview.-
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In post 341, Brigitte wrote:I don't know what to tell you. I am not gonna try to convince you I am town.
Townreading this. RC, I remember you said Brigitte is scum, do you still hold that? What's your case?In post 345, Brigitte wrote:You realize I feel as though I am walking on eggshells with you right now and I don't know how to respond, right?-
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Yeah, on my occasional visit to the thread I noticed this. Like nearly 30 pages and no real wagons being pushed.In post 695, Fractured wrote:A lot of people are voteparking or jumping around without any resolution to their reads.... assuming they have them.
Hence the questions to people to back up with their thought processes, and give me something to evaluate.-
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Contentless (in a sense) posting is your collective fault, yea.In post 701, Alonzo wrote:So you have a dozen posts and that's our fault somehow?-
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@Brigitte.In post 687, Michael Scott wrote:Volxen's MIA too >.>
Do you have prior experience with me?-
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If it's a wall with large text in places, it's 99% Volxen.In post 707, Brigitte wrote:
Nope, just want to get inside the head of the person who is posting.In post 706, Fractured wrote:So you're using meta for them? I find the suspicion on them to be thoroughly unconvincing.
If it's not a wall it's 100% Auro.-
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I think the lack of concern over being shaded/wagoned is town indicative to an extent, what do you think?In post 706, Fractured wrote:You have several people pushing votes on you but you haven't engaged, why?-
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Spoiler:
Waffliness and poor pushes (quoted above) seems weird. I'm not sure if this is necessarily AI for the slot, but no, I'm not townreading them.
You said your reason for townreading the slot was that their posting seemed natural, yeah? This may have been answered before but - do you have prior experience with mbaki, and have you accurately identified their alignment using this in previous games?-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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The activity scumcase is unconvincing, you gotta come up with something more.-
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I'm a little bit concerned with Implosion's lack of engagement with me while continuously calling me scum.
Johnny, talk to me more about Varsoon being scum?-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Definitions for "scumhunting" vary.In post 768, JohnnyEnglish wrote:Take a brief look at Alonzo's ISO, and name me instances of him actively trying to look for evidence as to which among us are scum, or, in other words, "scumhunting". Can you? This exercise will take less than two minutes.
His ISO is meh, but this accusation can be made of multiple slots, methinks.
Also from my very iffy memory of town!Alonzo, this doesn't look too different. Are you informed by experience with town!him?-
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I see you haven't placed a vote yourself - you go on, first.In post 771, JohnnyEnglish wrote:Care to put a vote down on him for the time being?-
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VOTE: Alonzo
Let's see where this goes.
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"They *could* do this as scum, hence you can't townread them for it!"In post 811, GuiltyLion wrote:this is a tremendously bad post, for the record
1 - everybody knows faking townreads as scum is easy. It also feels like unnatural/forced reasoning - "they're not playing how in this specific manner I would expect scum to play, therefore they're town"
2 - there was definite need to, because several people were scumreading them and voting them. like you're giving them town credit for doing something that either alignment would want to do to look town.
I have to think a townie - especially players of Auro/volxen caliber - would see that a scum!Fractured could fake this level of content so far and would have more paranoia than a "strong townread" after an ISO skim. this feels like a fabricated townread because they already decided previously that they didn't want to scumread Fractured slot
You ignore that:
1. It's an early AF townread which is obviously subject to re-evaluation.
2. Picking stances in this way is how I begin the game usually.
3. They townread virtually everyone in that RVS interaction IIRC and not just me, saying I townread them just for townreading me is disingenuous.-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Heavily disagree that the townread was bad. Mindmelding on RVS reads is a fine reason to throw an early townread, especially when the verdict is "all town". The RVS mindmeld wasn't the sole reason for a townread - I had additional reasons to strengthen my townread, which you dismissed as "could be within their scumrange" - which led to my quote.In post 1001, GuiltyLion wrote:this is also a bad reply - I'm progressively more confident on scum!Michael Scott at this point
Quote is a strawman of the argument I'm making. I'm not really saying people can't townread Fractured, rather the point is that your reasons for a "strong" townread on Fractured were notably weak in a way that doesn't really make sense from a townie.
1 - until/unless you actually re-evaluate, this means nothing. and it's not a counter to my point that the townread is bad to begin with
2 - cool, same. your justification for that stance remains extremely sketchy
3 - I didn't say anything about who they townread, had nothing to do with you. More just that saying "we RVS mindmelded on townreads" isn't at all a compelling reason to townread someone unless there's more to why you think those particular townreads are town-indicative.
Now, answer this - What is your experience with Volxen?-
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Michael Scott Mafia Scum
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Nevermind, I see this^.In post 1003, GuiltyLion wrote:It's not about Auro/Volxen's meta with you specifically, it's more about what I know of both players. Auro is incredibly insightful and capable as town, and Volxen I've seen go deep into trying to clear one of his pet townreads at the expense of paranoia of two otherwise rather obvtown slots (Auro/CoA) because he was so careful about accidentally town-clearing a potential deepwolf, here. I just can't comfortably grok that they would so casually shelve you as strong-town off what you'd contributed so far. It's an alarmingly bad justification for a townread.
I don't really care about the content of those posts, I care that they suggested you "had no need" to post them. Do you really agree that scum!you wouldn't feel bothered to give some better town-looking reads at that point?
What games of mine have you even read? You should know, by now, that I usually bucket people into townreads very early and strongly so, as my way of moving a game on, for admittedly weak reasons.
"Had no need" -> Your argument keeps coming around to "scum can do anything", and this can apply to any reason to townread anyone. Objectively, in that gamestate where nothing was really happening, yes - there is higher town motivation to advance the game and post solid reads instead of mucking around, and is a fine reason (again) to townread them.-
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You're not following the game, then. A couple of slots have me as a townread. I'm not having much of a presence in the game right now - that's the obvious explanation for "not being mentioned much", how do you follow the implication that I'm scum from all of this?In post 1024, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:If everyone scumleans them, it feels like a ML. But if only 2 scumread them and nobody else mentions them, it feels like scum. Not much more to it than that atm.-
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Waiting to hear your justification. I've been busy, and my reactions to pressure were:In post 911, implosion wrote:I just feel like Michael Scott has had really terrible reactions to pressure
448: Questioning an unexplained scumread, which I don't recall was answered.
687: I say I'll prioritize this game for a bit.
721: Where you call me scum for "activity patterns", which I call out, and successively state concern for you not engaging with me.
861: Where I defend against an accusation that my townread was bad.
Explain the "really terrible" reactions to pressure. Shoot.-
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In post 684, implosion wrote:Is the hot new scumteam Alonzo and Michael Scott?In post 685, implosion wrote:Michael Scott’s activity pattern so far feels scummy. I also don’t like their posts in the past two pages especially much.In post 719, implosion wrote: Also Michael Scott is still scum~~~~~~||||~~~~~In post 834, implosion wrote:Consider my vote on Michael Scott.
Empty pushes sans explanation or engagement. Bad.In post 1022, implosion wrote: That leaves a scumpool of Michael/Varsoon/khaki (not fixing this autocorrect bc it’s too good to)/Alonzo (though these four are all very different opinions which I will elaborate again when not mobile.) it also leaves a cheese pool of you know who-
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Why is Varsoon scum? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall seeing uninvested Varsoon as town before. I'll check to see if he does the same as scum, but I don't recall anyone in this game presenting any reasons to scumread Varsoon.-
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Brigitte, what are your scumreads at right now? What's your read on me?-
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Volxen's been busy RL the whole time, he hasn't even had the chance to read the game. It's been all me.In post 1003, GuiltyLion wrote:Auro is incredibly insightful and capable as town, and Volxen I've seen go deep into trying to clear one of his pet townreads at the expense of paranoia of two otherwise rather obvtown slots (Auro/CoA) because he was so careful about accidentally town-clearing a potential deepwolf, here.
One inaccuracy - both I and CoA had Volxen as locktown from his crumb in the link you posted. How does Volxen trying to clear his townreads, in any way, lead to "He's scum for the bad townread" here?
Also, regarding my own town capability - which towngames are you even basing this off of, since we don't have any completed experience except for the Connect marathon games?-
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Ugh. I'm being dinged on for activity patterns. My time zone makes me sleep when y'all are active, and awake when you guys sleep - so I have to read multiple pages when I'm up and my posts are always gonna look like a "burst of activity".
This shouldn't factor in to reads on me.-
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I'll point out why your case is invalid when I get time.In post 1251, implosion wrote:why would i push you when michael scott is obvscum
As far as tone goes - "purely logical" or some shit, that's my tone regardless of alignment. Verifiable my meta, read the Newbie Robacalypse game.
Activity patterns - Timezone difference, and I verifiably find it a bit harder to get into the game as town. I've been scum a bunch of times and I dominate the game's I'm in as scum - I'm not afraid of posting a lot. Again, verifiable by meta across at least 5 scumgames.-
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Also from towngames. Starcraft Mafia 2, where I was lackluster D1.
Not an excuse for meh play here, absolutely - and I do admit I'm not giving my all this game - but yeah, erratic activity is definitely NAI.-
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Sorry again, I haven't found time to catch up properly. Will do in a day.-
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Examples of questions that "don't lead anywhere"? Everything I asked was to gain an answer I could evaluate.In post 1375, GuiltyLion wrote:
this (referring to Michael Scott) + pretty much everything in 1085 is absolutely in line with how I've been feeling, with a few extra points I hadn't even consideredIn post 1133, implosion wrote:A lot of his play around suspicion on him feels like he's repeatedly going "a-ha, this reason to suspect me is actually invalid!" in a way that doesn't actually meaningfully engage with people, doesn't actually refute the points they were making, doesn't try to sort them. He's asking questions or making statements that don't lead anywhere interesting.
Also ofc I'll call out invalid reasons on invalid reasons. Activity tell - NAI, Robot tone - NAI.-
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What does this mean?In post 1431, Varsoon wrote:Also it's probably likely that scum doesn't have sword flavor.-
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Why can't it be her neighbourhood?In post 1427, RadiantCowbells wrote:itt brigitte is online for a massive amount of time posting in scum thread but not in this game.-
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No.In post 1440, GuiltyLion wrote:is this seriously all you have to offer
I'm reading the thread.
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Varsoon, you said I'm probably town, wanna talk about how you arrived there?
Changed your mind on hearing the cases on me?