Mini Theme 2077 - Restless Spirits Mafia [ENDED]

[Almost50]

Hey A50!

I'm scum! LYNCH ME

Now let me go catch up.

[Almost50]

You are allowed a single post in the thread once you are dead. This post must not contain any game-relevant information.

Ankamius .. I LOVE YOU!

[Almost50]

It's also not inconceivable that scum would have some sort of medium breaking ability in this setup. Does seem like it'd be more useful in their hands.

Yes, but why claim it (as scum)?? For Town cred? I think she had way too many alternatives to do that. So she wouldn't be caught by a Follower.Tracker/Watcher?? She already said she won't be using it.

All in all I can't see this as a scum move from her.

[Almost50]

it was RC's large where she blatantly claimed her scum role right out of the gate. There's a ton of scum useage of that role and I don't really understand why she felt she would claim as town.

If she's done it before then she knows it's an old trick and she knows you know of it (and apparently so does Titus), so what are the odds she pulls the same gambit in your presence again??

I'll tell you what: I am going to stop arguing, but let it be known I am not voting Mastina this game.

[Almost50]

I am deadly with neighborhoods

A-ha! Now I understand why they say "don't Titus and neighborhood".

[Almost50]

@ mod

am I able to type in green text as long as I don't use stars to surround my text?

@ mod

am I able to use stars to surround my text as long as I don't type in green text?

[Almost50]

I wish Nancy stayed. She could've used Almost Nancy for her next alt/hydra slip too.

[Almost50]

I'm 86. GET OFF MY LAWN!

Eh, and I thought U was old!~

[Almost50]

I'm 86. GET OFF MY LAWN!

Eh, and I thought

I

was old!~

[Almost50]

Grandjob!

First Nero invites the whole gang to LUV, then this, and I'm suddenly wondering why I didn't join the game with AP!

[Almost50]

If Ras is town, scum is probably in the people who voted Ras after I started posting.

Damn, I missed another chance of obv!scumming. Can we retake this scene, boss?

[Almost50]

I am ready to end the day.

Wait. What? We didn't even get the chance to fake claim

scum

masons together!

[Almost50]

@CMM: Since you're obviously on now and I'm still catching up.. did you post anything that's AI for you yet? If so.. can you point it out?

[Almost50]

What if I said that by the end if page 12 I am thinking 2 scums are in LUV/CMM/Elbrin

[Almost50]

Say, who did skitter replace again?

[Almost50]

OK.. NVM.. I should learn to READ THE NAMES rather than just glimpse at the avis.

[Almost50]

So many lurkers and nonvoters

Said the

only

guy

not voting

at the time.

[Almost50]

This is so bad.

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

I actually forgot the login info for the hydra account

It's really easy though. Washington public library, 3rd stand, 5th row, 12th book. Now use this to solve the puzzle form last Sunday's Washington Post, and when you do write it down on a piece of paper and put it against a mirror to read the reflection. When all that gets you nowhere; just drop ND39 a PM and she'll remind you what the password was.

[Almost50]

pedit: A50 iirc I was saying scum might also have such an ability in that post. Later on people say she has a meta for this and I don't like the logic she's using... you'll see my later posts anyway

I'll tell you what I don't like about Mastina: Her arguments

against

being TR'd. That's what bugs me rn.

[Almost50]

Would our hydra be Almost Retired?

Actually I was thinking more in the lines of

50 shades of Nero

[Almost50]

Ras was scummy independently of the replace out. Don’t vote him for the replace out.

I thought his replace out was Townie though. I'm not sure if I can explain it well, but knowing his scum game (and

most recently

so) I don't think

his pride

allows him to leave the battlefield if he was scum.

[Almost50]

OK, Creature is still the only one not committed with a vote, while he is also complaining about (imaginary) people not voting is quite alarming.

CMM totally avoiding/ignoring me is a scum claim in a nutshell.

I have yet to identify their third, but I think these two will do for now. Everybody please vote in Creature/CMM, but do not put either @L-1 yet.

[Almost50]

Do you have any suspects? Who would you like to lynch?

[Almost50]

Do you have any suspects? Who would you like to lynch?

I don't remember my old reads now.

What

do

you know/remember about this game? What do you intend to do next? When should we expect you to provide anything if value? Why should I TR you here??

[Almost50]

Prodging just before I receive a prodge.. catching up

[Almost50]

Where am I avoiding

I asked you if you had posted anything AI to point it out. I couldn't have been clearer!

[Almost50]

@CMM: Since you're obviously on now and I'm still catching up.. did you post anything that's AI for you yet? If so.. can you point it out?

Have you? All I'm seeing is "look guys I'm reading the thread, we're all pals Ecks dee"

Look at me totally ignoring A50
Like how can you boldfaced lie about my position when it's in literal writing that I responded to you

My vote is never moving.

Spoiler: @CMM

Well, I'm scum. What's your excuse?

[Almost50]

I have no clue why anyone signs up to play mafia and then doesn't play.

I'll answer for myself: I don't want to use out-of-game influence to justify the lack of my presence in the past 48 hrs, so let's say I'm just being lazy.

And while at it:

@Mod: Preemptive V/LA tor the next 96 hrs

[Almost50]

Just keeping my timer alive so that I -hopefully- won't fall into the prodding range. I obviously have nothing to add since my last post.

[Almost50]

I'm NOT going to vote outside of ConManMick/Lil Uzi Vert/Creature today. Just a FYI

[Almost50]

Just reiterating this. A50 there are two wagons that have a legit chance of being lynched right now. Less than 2 days before the deadline is not the time to declare your interest in voting others.

I am not sold on either though, and the NMSA wagon built too fast for my liking at this point. (I don't remember how fast Mastina's wagon went, but I still think the claim was townie).

You do what you must. I'm just saying I won't be voting either in the current game status.

[Almost50]

Vote Count 1.20

[5]

mastina

- NotMySpamAccount, Elbirn, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf, Titus

[L-2]

[5]

NotMySpamAccount

- Rosterfoster, Creature, Montosh, Lil Uzi Vert, Omochao

[L-2]

[1]

Omochao

- ConManMick
[1]

ConManMick

- Almost50
[1]

Flavor Leaf

- Mastina
Almost50 -
Creature -
Elbirn -
Lil Uzi Vert -
Montosh -
Nero Cain -
rosterfoster -
Titus -


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2019-06-02 19:00:00) from now, or June 2nd, 7:00 PM CST (GMT-6).

Prodding: N/A
Replacing: N/A
V/LA: rosterfoster (6/3)

This VC tells me Elbrin has high equity of flipping read. Do it's probably Elbrin, CMM & LUV/Creature

[Almost50]

I'm 30?

Depends on how long it takes your planet to complete one cycle around the sun.

[Almost50]

Omochao town.

Omochao scum.

Omochao 3P

[Almost50]

Oh, Omochao is Nosferatu.

Welcome back.

You know if I earned a dime everytime I couldn't recognize someone's alt I'd have been a millionaire!

[Almost50]

Both wagons are probably town I'm starting to feel.

That's what I've been saying for a while. Scum are comfortable with this game state.

[Almost50]

Can we turbo CMM?

VOTE: CMM

GOOD vote.

[Almost50]

Vote Count 1.24

[5]

mastina

- NotMySpamAccount, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf, Titus, ConManMick

[L-2]

[4]

NotMySpamAccount

- Creature, Montosh, Lil Uzi Vert, Omochao
[2]

ConManMick

- Almost50, Rosterfoster
[1]

Flavor Leaf

- Mastina
Almost50 -
Creature -
Elbirn -
Lil Uzi Vert -
Omochao -
Montosh -
Nero Cain -
rosterfoster -
Titus -


Not Voting (1): Elbirn

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is (expired on 2019-06-02 19:00:00) from now, or June 2nd, 7:00 PM CST (GMT-6).

Prodding: N/A
Replacing: N/A
V/LA: rosterfoster (6/3)

Scum CMM joined the wagon so scum Elbrin jumped off it.

1- Classic scum move
2- Shows scum don't really care which of the two we lynch

[Almost50]

Sorry A50 but it turns out that quoting Vote Counts and then saying three names at random isn't how mafia is played

No? I could've sworn someone told me that the only way to play the game.

[Almost50]

Mastina is making the game toxic and at this point the game will be better off without quite so much negativity.

Mastina's being her nicer self in this game!!!

[Almost50]

can we stop using equity whenever the fuck we want?
this is not what this word means.

Well, I'm a non-English speaker so I deserve some leniency.

[Almost50]

fairness, fair-mindedness, justness, justice, equitableness, fair play; impartiality, even-handedness, lack of discrimination/bias/prejudice/bigotry, egalitarianism;
honesty, integrity, rightness, rightfulness, rectitude, uprightness, righteousness, properness, decency, goodness, honorableness, scrupulousness, conscientiousness;

probability; chance

reasonableness, sensibleness; value, worth, valuation; ownership, rights, proprietorship

notice how none of these synonyms say "probability". tia.

I've just added my own interpretation of the term. Problem solved.

[Almost50]

Mastina should be hammerred.

You're the one who's been drinking though!!

[Almost50]

@Titus: How does leading us off a cliff feel? You insisted on Mastina and now you're after another TR of mine.

[7] mastina - NotMySpamAccount, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf, Titus, ConManMick, Elbirn, Omochao [LYNCH]

I would lynch any of the last 3 voters here

[3] NotMySpamAccount - Creature, Montosh, Lil Uzi Vert

Also LUV (and Creature to a lesser extent)

I am confident the scum team is in those 5

[Almost50]

If it was up top me I'd have them all claim (Creature last). I suggest Elbrin > Omochao > LUV > CMM > Creature

[Almost50]

Titus should also note Elbrin was early on the Mastina wagon then unvoted and revoted to appear later. I think this was him trying to fool the VCA.

VOTE: LUV

[Almost50]

Almost, can my VCA really be fooled by such shenanigans?

Not yours, but mist everyone else's. Let's not forget you are a likely NK tonight if you're town (and I do believe that you are town)

[Almost50]

[7] mastina - NotMySpamAccount, Nero Cain, Flavor Leaf, Titus, ConManMick, Elbirn, Omochao [LYNCH]
[3] NotMySpamAccount - Creature, Montosh, Lil Uzi Vert
[2] ConManMick - Almost50, Rosterfoster
[1] Flavor Leaf - Mastina

@Titus: Regardless of NMSA's alignment, who do you this is the scum off Mastina? Or do you think the whole team was on her?

[Almost50]

No need for improve. I did well last phase.

I'm not happy with your contributions so far. Not the kind of play I'd want to fake Masons with tbh.

[Almost50]

You are allowed to "paraphrase" most anything. You are NOT allowed to "quote" anything.

Does anybody CC LUV on having Mastina's "ghost"??

[Almost50]

Also, who got Montosh?

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

Unless someone CC's LUV I think we can assume him to be town.

[Almost50]

Hmm.. who thinks town Mastina/Montosh (or any other townie really) gets assigned to a scum player to speak through?

FL is +ve it's random, and Nero's not sure. I'd like everyone else to weigh in on this.

[Almost50]

@LUV/roster: You can talk back & forth to your "spirits", right? If so, I would recommend you let then handle your posting content at this point. Thank you.

[Almost50]

I think it may well be random but we had a message confirming to montosh that I was town.

I think the fact that LUV mentioned that means it is likely that they are town.

I see. OK then. Because my role PM says if I die I get assigned to a townie to talk through

by default

, and I assumed that was the case for everyone (i.e. for every townie).

[Almost50]

oh that was savage

Read my next post. mastina would know how to handle this situation best to get an explicit guilty if she could.

[Almost50]

like if dead town can only go to town that essentially makes this mechanic a cop and seems like it would be unfair.

True. I assumed we would have no real PRs due to my faulty assumption. I mean, mastina's role is not a conventional PRm so doesn't count.

But OK, my role is essentially a Cop upon my death. *Shrug*

[Almost50]

I think we can wait for roster (a town read) and LUV (originally a scum read) to convey messages from Montosh/Mastina to tell for sure. I think it's hard for either to fake a message from said dead players.

[Almost50]

I personally feel like if I were scum with a spirit, I could easily abuse that mechanic, which I’m sure that’s part of the game.

I agree 100% that

you

could and would. However, mot everybody is as good a scum as you are, and not every good scum can fake someone else's train of thoughts and style of expression. roster/LUV maybe good scum players on their own, but I don't think either can mimic the style of the restless spirits they were assigned.

[Almost50]

I don't think this game can include 3P roles. Like, why would a Serial Killer or a Survivor even care after they're dead?

And I've just reread my role PM. If I'm dead by any means; my medium will be publicly announced in the thread. Now I feel special.

[Almost50]

I think we can wait for roster (a town read) and LUV (originally a scum read) to convey messages from Montosh/Mastina to tell for sure. I think it's hard for either to fake a message from said dead players.

mod won't let anyone paste from their medium thread for the same reason ive never seen a mod allow anyone to paste from a neighborhood thread.

i also assume we wouldnt be allowed to do any weird truth tell type deal like "have mastina answer a question that only she would know" and mastina only gives an answer if mastina is town.

Hold your horses. I was only saying mastina has her own way of analyzing the game and we probably can tell if this kind of thought came from her. Like, if I'm dead (and theoretically assuming my medium wasn't confirmed and announced in-thread) I probably would be able to have them prove I am talking through them. Like.. "The monkey says their fart smells like bananas".

[Almost50]

VOTE: Omochao

I want this dead right now.

1- Hammering Mastina in a suspicious manner (1160)
2- Hopping on NMSA and calling it a policy lynch (1195)
3- Over all posting, content and activity (rx: He's been posting to oppose everything of late just to needlessly spread the seeds of doubt)
4- 1259. Period.

I probably can add a supporting reason in RAS having replaced out after things got heated with FL.

[Almost50]

FTR, this is as good as having a soft-guilty on Omochao.

[Almost50]

You opposed the lynch that you personally hammered with naked vote??

And your 1259 id LAMIST to the max. You're just posturing. If you had a town role PM you'd understand, and even if not (very highly unlikely) then you would have asked the mod.

/Tunnel Mode On

[Almost50]

1259 is a shitpost it has like no meaning at all
if i was scum i would DEFINITELY ask the mod instead of asking in thread

Then you agree that it was LAMIST to the max. And what about 1262? You may not know mastina's thought process, but I do (and so do Titus and FL to mention a couple more). You lynched/hammered her for no reason. You didn't even say what about her thought process made you change your mind.

Btw, aren't you Nosferatu?

[Almost50]

Omochao I’m still lean scum on from Ras, but I think I’m a bit doubting myself there with the mixture of his play today and the L-1.

This line alone is enough for me to conf!scum Omochao (remember the last game where you scum read me and defended me? In fact you did it to EJ too.)

[Almost50]

Flavour that game I linked should be enough proof - I would never have been able to come up with that on my own.

when is almost50 gonna confirm roster's link?

Why do I need to confirm it? You can click it yourself!

@roster: This is a technicality though.. you said that was the game Montosh was talking about. Talking where?

[Almost50]

the answer is that half this game is literally trolling lmao

Sowe lynch half this game as a policy before we start looking for scum! Perfect logic.

[Almost50]

Sorry to report Titus looks like scum!her this day phase.

1- Omochao @L-3 >> she's on the counterwagon
2- Omochao @L-4 (Elbrin switches wagons) >> Titus votes Omochao
3- Omochao @L-2 >> she's switches back to the counterwagon

While Elbrin may look like he is trying to add pressure on whoever has a bigger wagon Titus is trying to look like she's been voting the scum (between NMSA & Omo) while keeping the pressure light on them. She's making sure nobody sits @L-2

[Almost50]

VOTE: LUV

OK I’m not sure Mastina is actually talking to him.

She is because no one CC'd. The question is whether he was confirmed a townie to her.. I think that's what you meant.

[Almost50]

the answer is that half this game is literally trolling lmao

Sowe lynch half this game as a policy before we start looking for scum! Perfect logic.

im going to pretend that this isn't an actual representation of what

you believe

and choose to ignore this.

No, it isn't what

I

believe. It's what

you

are suggesting we should do. Here:

i dont give a flying fuck if he's town or scum

i care about punishing bad play

which any reasonable person should do
what he did is NOT town motivated at all, that's inarguable
so he's either SCUM or TROLLING

So YOU believe we should be lynching trolls regardless of their alignment.

(And what you are saying above "is NOT town motivated at all, that's inarguable", I might add), so I'm suggesting we lynch you firstm then we turn on all the trolls, then IF the game is still ongoing we may scum hunt.

[Almost50]

Oh wait the Montosh thing was related to a convo about A50 in our PT

Ask the mod to give me access to your PT then.

You're alright here mate. No worries.

[Almost50]

(Note I might be on the verge of rule breaking if I actually used the same wording as him)

Mate, as long as you don't say or imply what you're saying is a direct quote you'll be fine.

[Almost50]

Oh joy, I just adore outside influences in games

This isn't though, and you complaining about it doesn't really help your case in my view. It's as if you're complaining people are able to confirm they really are conveying the restless spirit's views which no townie should find a problem with.

[Almost50]

Nero + roster + LUV + me are town

I'd add Omochao but I don't think anyone else would want him in

If that's what you bel;ieve you should be voting Elbrin. All the other 3 townies are on him.

[Almost50]

Why are you still voting Omochao though?

Because a wagon on him is good for the VCA still

[Almost50]

@Creature: It;s 5 to lynch and we have 2 wagons @L-2 already (were 3 @L-2 before Elbrin switched off NMSA and voted me)

[Almost50]

You know what?

VOTE: Elbrin

L-1

[Almost50]

VOTE: Omochao

[Almost50]

So, CMM & Onmochao are both scum. I am not sure who the 3rd is. Could it be that Titus snowed me? Or has Creature learned to play scum? Or did LUV abuse his special case with Mastina bringing in RL influence into the game?? I just don't know anymore.

@Everybody: So we want to speed wagon CMM instead or do we want to put Ono @L-1 and get a claim?? You decide.

[Almost50]

OK, so we don't need a claim from you. We can lynch you already and we have enough townies identified we can actually auto-win this.

[Almost50]

What the heck..

VOTE: NMSA

Whatever. This game is dead and scum are playing for time. If this is wrong we probably lose.

P.S. Just remember I've been saying CMM is scum since I replaced in on D1 and nobody listened. <<< This is for bragging rights post-game.

[Almost50]

should i vote almost50

Please do. Or maybe lynch NMSA and then lynch me. I don't care anymore.

[Almost50]

**Keep things civil. This will be the only warning I give. **

Trust me. I'm a civil engineer.

[Almost50]

my dying wish is for one of their deaths.

In order for it to be a dying wish you need to die first.

[Almost50]

VOTE: a50

How can I help you?

[Almost50]

And the scum motivation behind saying that in my 1st post was/is??

[Almost50]

ConManMick has not been replaced yet.

We can be civil and save the mod the trouble, you know.

VOTE: CMM

[Almost50]

I don’t see that being a scum role ever since the mediums are told the allignment so NMSA is probably town unless it’s a nice fakeclaim.

I dunno if this is bad phrasing or bad logic. We ALL get told the alignment of the lynchee. The lynchee (in this case NMSA) gets told the alignment of the medium, but that has no effect on us the living players because we don't know what the lynchee (restless spirit) is telling the medium anyway except through the medium themselves.

Like, what am I missing here? Why can't NMSA be a Loud Goon?

Anyway, I didn't want to lynch NMSA to begin with, so how about CMM (now Chenn)?

[Almost50]

@NMSA: Does your role PM state that your medium will always be town?

[Almost50]

Guys.. the claim is the mod will tell us who NMSA is talking to after we lynch NMSA. If that's a scum role then it definitely doesn't matter because once we know NMSA is scum we won' care what he has to say after the lynch anyway.

[Almost50]

That’s not the claim.

Except it is:

I'm a Loud VT. My medium gets posted in the thread.

The lynchee (NMSA = Restless Spirit). The player they talk to is the Medium. YOU are the Medium for Montosh.

[Almost50]

Go read your role PM .. thou shalt be given a Medium upon your death from the living players.

[Almost50]

That doesn’t make any sense for a scum role though

That's what I'm saying. WE get to KNOW what NMSA is upon his death. If he is scum we disregard and we don't care who his medium is. If he is town the mod confirms the medium (just in case scum try to fake being the medium to get the real medium lynched in LyLo (say))

[Almost50]

That's why I asked him if his medium was guaranteed to be a townie, because mine is. The more I live the harder for scum it is to kill me because if they do they get a confirmed townie (IC) among the living players. I should be tonight's kill if they have a brain.

[Almost50]

Yeah but we have figured ways to pretty much make sure that scum can’t fake the medium.

The mod simply didn't account for those.

[Almost50]

A50 can you actually push a wagon that will go through instead of a vanity wagon

Uh! OK.

I've got a (fake) guilty on CMM/Chenn. Can we please lynch this today? Thank you.

[Almost50]

Happy?

[Almost50]

VOTE: Omochao

A50 to the rescue of the Titus.

[Almost50]

Because I think Tutus is town

[Almost50]

By play, dude. Also Nero voted her, so I;m even less likely now to vote her. If Titus flips green lynch Nero regardless of whether I am still alive.

[Almost50]

OK, Creature is still the only one not committed with a vote, while he is also complaining about (imaginary) people not voting is quite alarming.

CMM totally avoiding/ignoring me is a scum claim in a nutshell.

I have yet to identify their third, but I think these two will do for now. Everybody please vote in Creature/CMM, but do not put either @L-1 yet.

[Almost50]

I enjoyed the setup. I am a bit bitter about Titus & Nero for the mastina lynch, and I don't bloody know why Titus got lynched. If only people could concentrate on the game and forget about previous bad experiences with each other...

Anyway, thanks Ank for modding. Well played FL (as always). I got 2 scums on D1 but my everlasting weakness is to get the town to follow my reads. I need to learn how to push a lynch on a suspect.

Pedit: LOL @Chenn/@Jingle

[Almost50]

@Chenn: I don't blame you. I was asking the TOWN why they lynched Titus. I think I made it clear I TR'd BOTH mastina & Titus on D1, and even when mastina got lynched I spoke to Titus as TOWN "leading us off a cliff"

@Titus: How does leading us off a cliff feel? You insisted on Mastina and now you're after another TR of mine.

My TRs on the trio of mastina, Titus & NMSA were so strong I don't see why they were being SR'd by the rest of the town.

[Almost50]

I am a bit bitter about Titus & Nero for the mastina lynch

Try being the one who was mislynched.

You know I do sometimes get extra-annoyed at being mislynched like that, so I know how it felt.

[Almost50]

The beauty of the setup is in keeping the lynched/dead players attached to the game proceedings. I have indeed been mulling about various ideas all revolving around that idea: How to allow someone who got lynched on D1 or killed on N1 to keep playing the game they signed up to. This was definitely a GOOD way to keep them around for longer.

[Almost50]

Honestly I'm sure this is already been done but wouldn't the simplest solution be to just treestump all dead players?

Would YOU still be interested if you were turned into a Treestump? The idea -here- was for the dead player to still effort to try and get their reads through to the main thread.

[Almost50]

I see dead presidents