Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Chara]

hello everyone!
and it's nice to see you again, kitty. also Pooky. :>

[Chara]

I claim ascetic coward.

what's coward? i can't find it on the wiki.

[Chara]

i admire you so much jjh

[Chara]

hello everyone!
and it's nice to see you again, kitty. also Pooky. :>

hello!

hi uh do you mind changing your signature so that it doesnt use my old pronouns anymore even though its quoted directly i still feel kinda weird about it

i was very confused until i checked your signature.
edited!

and hello!

[Chara]

oh god, it's creepypasta Red.

[Chara]

VOTE: Perfume
>:3

[Chara]

normally i don't like gimmick alts that make themselves harder to read, but Red is both visibly scumhunting and very entertaining so it's kind of hard to knock it.

VOTE: Infinity

[Chara]

i guess visibly scumhunting is being rather generous, but he does seem to be playing even with the limited communication, and i'm in no hurry to see it stop.

[Chara]

this is becoming quite foolish
I didn't expect to be playing with a creepypasta and a lolcat this game
-Protocol

*glomps you*

[Chara]

are the Titus votes serious?

[Chara]

Tit͞us̷'͟s ̸ey̨es ̷ẃer̵e͡ e͠g̶g̴s̨ of̷ ͏un̛s͡t̨abĺe͏ cry͝s͠t͟al҉, ́w͢h͜o̵s͟e͠ ͞n̴a͘m̕e͏ w͢a̶s͏ ̸po̴int̀i͏n͜g͞ ͏o҉ut t͝he ͏ơb͞v̸i͢o͞us̛, ͘a͢nd spo͟u̵ti̕n҉g͡ a ̨h͏um̢mi̢n̵g f͟or͡e̵s̴t̕ ͡ơf͞ ̧o҉v͜e̸rc̛oǹfide͢ņc̨e

i'm going to be eating my words in a second, but is this overconfidence referring to Titus calling those responses to my post towny?

[Chara]

VOTE: chara you could've waited a few more posts and your take would've been fine!

Seriously though, that feels a bit pockety.

-Inf

i actually think the posts Red made after that are worse than the ones before.

[Chara]

sorry, Nancy, i didn't mean to exclude you. i said hello to Pooky and kitty specifically because they were in the last game i played and had to rep out of.

[Chara]

i guess visibly scumhunting is being rather generous, but he does seem to be playing even with the limited communication, and i'm in no hurry to see it stop.

This is actually a good point. Easy to hide in a gimmick, especially this early on. Although it's 75 where I see the visible scumhunting. What were you referring to?

asking if you were alive and the stressed Titus vote stood out to me as "actual gameplay" when the rest of Red's posts were just ellipses. it's really not much but it made me think he was paying attention.

i'm hoping Perfume's posts expand a bit more, too.

[Chara]

@Titus wtf exactly is an “aesthetic coward”?

ascetic coward. coward lets her run away from battles, apparently.

[Chara]

i know

i just dont feel like voting rn

but if i did i would be voting there

what's your problem with kitty?

[Chara]

Titus has been pinging for town so far.

[Chara]

Hi nancy, protocol is gamma emerald. Noraa isn't in this game. Why do you think you'll have difficulty reading me?

-Inf

Are you actually going to do anything with this information or are you just asking to fill the airwaves though?

E.g. post 98 was bad but you've completely ignored why it was bad.

did you mean to put 98? i don't get what you're saying here re: Infinity.

[Chara]

Hi nancy, protocol is gamma emerald. Noraa isn't in this game. Why do you think you'll have difficulty reading me?

-Inf

Are you actually going to do anything with this information or are you just asking to fill the airwaves though?

E.g. post 98 was bad but you've completely ignored why it was bad.

did you mean to put 98? i don't get what you're saying here re: Infinity.

[Chara]

i've experienced using the methodology that leads to responding to basic questions with this sort of smug deflection, so i'm sympathetic of it to a point, but it really isn't that hard to say "i think X and Y are scum because Z", and pretending otherwise is fine if you want to play alone in your little bubble, but pretty unproductive for the larger game.

annoyingly, it's given me reason to townread you, so i can't say it's a completely

useless

stance to take, if not conducive to team play.

[Chara]

but really, if what you're saying is that Nancy's post indicates being partners with Infinity, that needs some explanation.

also i'd agree the pace is a bit slow given how short the deadlines are.

[Chara]

Wary is probably a better word. A negative utility claim can have you basically cleared and I'm not ready to fully assume you're not scum claiming this for the clear.

Didn't like his vote on Mistyx. The reasoning doesn't make much sense.

Red for the reason chara and I talked about. jj for making me realize the deadlines are very short which should make players who may have also overlooked this do more. Scum could have just let the current gamestate go until it's too late to make a good decision.

i don't think Red's participation has been that AI, and while the rest of this is pretty much... fine, i don't know if it's town.

actually, why would an ascetic claim clear anyone? Titus could be scum and claiming truthfully.

[Chara]

Misty, if it wasn't clear i was asking why you wanted to vote catboi.

[Chara]

we are, which is why i conceded i got a read out of it, but getting information out of you is like pulling teeth, and it doesn't need to be that way. for example, it wasn't clear until just now that you weren't calling them teamed, because that is how it sounded to me.

[Chara]

you think i'm trying to start a push on Titus, a player i townread?
what do you think of Raya's read on Red?

[Chara]

we are, which is why i conceded i got a read out of it, but getting information out of you is like pulling teeth, and it doesn't need to be that way. for example, it wasn't clear until just now that you weren't calling them teamed, because that is how it sounded to me.

Read infinity's ISO then and tell me what you think. I'll respond!

i think Infinity hasn't really towntold so far. they're asking a lot of questions and i haven't seen much direction from the slot, as well. i would have expected some follow up from the vote on me. my vote's still there, in any case.

[Chara]

i am interested in your slot, i think i've made that pretty clear, but i don't see the point in interrogating the vote on me further when you haven't done anything with it, nor responded to the discussion that came from it.

pedit: ?

[Chara]

i'm sorry if i'm sounding really irritable, it doesn't have to do with the game. i was looking over my conversation with bob and i think it was unnecessarily antagonistic for me.

[Chara]

i guess, that's fair enough actually re: not unvoting. but given the gamestate and your opinion on the deadline i would think you'd have reason to press on what seems to be at least some kind of scumread.
do you have a read on bob?

[Chara]

you think i'm trying to start a push on Titus, a player i townread?
what do you think of Raya's read on Red?

Mara doesnt understand it either

Mara thinks Raya is underwhelming and making no sense, maybe coasting?

i asked about Raya because she's agreed with and expanded upon what i said about Red, so i was wondering if you had an opinion there.

i'm not sure how you read my question to her about ascetic being an NAI modifier as Titus shade either. sure, it's pro-town to have claimed it.

[Chara]

do you have a read on me, kitty?

[Chara]

i ask because it feels like you're really going to bat for me here.

[Chara]

hi i wasn't planning on posting tonight but i'm a sucker for compliments, what can i help you with.

[Chara]

Chara just feels smug to me. It's exactly how DGB felt in yellowstone.

-Inf

i'm not DGB. is your point that feeling smug is a scum trait? it's actually part of my bob townread.

Seems like we are approaching the admonish the sheep who can't think properly portion of the game

oh boo, don't be lame about it. so it's the smugness and generally making an effort to not make friends. except for me, which i guess scum would want to do here, but.
i still think the particular flavour of insufferable bob is channeling here rings like insufferable town.

i haven't read up though.

[Chara]

i like Gamma's posts more than Infinity's. i don't know if i'm good at reading Gamma but i like that he did put a case down, even if i don't really agree with it.
i do agree re: Titus, i wouldn't say her play has been strongly AI yet but it has been her usual self.

Gamma, i see your point about asking my opinion on your slot and then agreeing with it, but bob did have something original to say too. i'm also skeptical of him having

nothing

and then deciding to declare you scum, if for no other reason than because it wouldn't be a great idea.
the playstyle/different site culture thing is probably a sticking point, but even beyond that bob's style here is not completely foreign to mafiascum.
i don't know, i don't think you're technically incorrect and it does seem like you're approaching this in a fair way, he really hasn't explained much and i'd hazard a guess he's going by gut/intuition and pressing forward from there.

not moving the gamestate forward was a problem i had with your slot as well, and i see your point about bob not doing anything to remedy that either.
anyway, if i'm not seeing obvscum pushing through reads with little to no reasoning i'm going to feel like an idiot, but i'm also not interested in second-guessing myself this early.

[Chara]

I think being smug in the way I perceive you is scum-indicative, yeah. Or maybe smug is the wrong word. Idk. Maybe it's that you feel overly comfortable with the gamestate in a way I don't think town would be? I'm not good at this part.

-Inf

i don't feel particularly comfortable. i am in a better mood than yesterday, however.
i'm not used to deadlines this short, either. i know in my head we really need to get moving but it feels like the game just started because it did.

[Chara]

I don’t get your Chara read but it looked to me like bob was scumreading something that read NAI to me. Him claiming it made him suspicious wouldn’t be bad at all because that’s what it looks like Chara’s doing but his scumread on you just seems overstated for what it’s based on. I suppose it’s also possible he could just be bad town but his push on you just seems excessive to me and lumping us in with you pings me as possible chainsawing.

i'm not sure what you're saying here, in reference to the difference between me and bob. what i'm assuming is that you mean bob's push is suspicious and mine isn't because he seems sure Infinity is scum for it.

[Chara]

I coudn't read that post because I got distracted blaring red scum alarms going off in my head. It's showy and fabricated and it feels so dispassionate about the bob wagon that I don't believe it really TRs bob. I need to talk to gamma because I'm not seeing chara and bob as scum together but chara needs to die

VOTE: chara

-Inf

PEdit: that was at 330

it seems like you really dislike my method of speaking, Infinity. have we played together before?

[Chara]

i don't remember this at all but if the feeling of embarrassment in my gut is any indication i imagine it was some laughably bad play i made as scum.

anyways, i'm actively trying to keep emotions out of my play, so i don't find it surprising that you've found my tone awkward to navigate when i'm in this sort of mood.

i don't think i was giving the impression that i hard townread bob enough to want to defend them, nor do i think i've actually done so beyond reiterating where my own read came from. i could be totally offbase. and it looks like you have some expectations about town reactions that i'm not going to hit.

pedit: i'm not great at being inspirational when i have few strong reads myself. but sure, okay. you should keep doing what you're doing, i've heard people respond well to vague negativity.

[Chara]

pedit is to bob, the rest is to Infinity.

[Chara]

i don't think Nancy's very readable on tone but she does have a very distinct pattern as town that makes her (semi-consistently) readable once she gets going. i recognize this is vague and unhelpful but i feel like i'd embarrass myself trying to explain it, and also i don't want to. the point is i don't think tonally comparing her to one or two games would be as useful as looking at how she solves and what she reacts to.

[Chara]

i already knew this but also wow, this game really is full of the gimmick accounts.
Mara at least is playing normally, just with a cutesy affectation.

VOTE: Akari and Mara
it doesn't feel like you're reading or interacting with the thread fully. why was Titus's claim towny to you? this was asked earlier by i forget who.

there's a through-line in the concern about Titus's claim and my words on it to Raya, but besides that the bob vote is pretty out of nowhere and i'd appreciate a followup.

and Perfume, please come back and say more than one or two words on any topic.

[Chara]

i don't think Cards of Destiny is a

great

metric for my play, because i was definitely phoning it in for large swathes of that game. but i get what you're saying re: bob and Infinity.

i assumed bob was from another site, but his comment about not knowing me makes me wonder if he's an alt. i guess it doesn't really matter.

[Chara]

man, i'm such a big supporter of intuition and gut reads and yet all of these feelings are so hard to interact with. all i can say is "i don't think it looks forced", and then Raya can say "i do".

anyways speaking of, Titus i'd appreciate some words on that Raya vote because i don't think "wait and see" is a great approach in a semi-blitz.
not that i know a good approach. there's a reason i don't play blitzes. i don't know why i signed up for this, actually. normally i love just avoiding the thread for a day sometimes but the 4-day deadline guilt throws that out the window.

pedit: lmao nevermind. thanks?

[Chara]

bob i get your point and i hate that i'm enjoying your point when your gameplay philosophy continues to conflict with my own, but pointing at something that isn't a case and then a weak part of a different case and declaring "explanation bad' is not a very strong argument.

pedit: it's not. or it is but in a sincere way. i do think intuition is a solid part of mafia but sometimes there's just nothing to say back to it.
but i do think the practice of trying to put that feeling into words can be very useful.

[Chara]

I'll join A&M wagon if you're all bailing on me but I don't think it's a particularly compelling one

why not?

[Chara]

this sort of communication is what i was hoping to see and it's unfortunate that it's happened when i decided to do my best to go to sleep. i'm going to try and do that but i'll say that yes i agree it's hard to work with the stance that you're just bad (though i don't know if you mean work with as in cooperate or work with as in form a read on, either way i think it applies).
there's a lot i want to say, saying you're just pushing at nothing, therefore you have nothing and are scum, is indeed a surface level and easy sort of take. (i don't remember now who said that)
and my perception of Gamma might be biased by remembering what town Gamma looks like and seeing some early similarities here, as well.

what was your original intent in declaring Mirrors and Infinity scum and pushing both?

pedit: to bob, though that's likely clear.

[Chara]

I'll join A&M wagon if you're all bailing on me but I don't think it's a particularly compelling one

why not?

Nothing seems particularly interesting in the ISO? Just looks like they aren't doing much, so they could be in a process of elimination or something but I'd rather flip active scumreads or at least people who have done more.

i can understand this, but when applied in a general way it can lead to flipping active slots and leaving less-readable slots alive into the lategame.

i don't think that thinking is relevant to this game yet, though.

[Chara]

pedit: Because they both had posting that matched the above criteria and I thought people would be inspired to reread and think about it. Well, it's happening now maybe, but I don't think it needed to be so polarizing.

that early i assumed you were just taking some sand and calling it a boulder for content purposes. i'm curious about what you saw in those early posts that caught your attention

[Chara]

i don't get the kitty votes.

[Chara]

Misty's specifically i guess. you don't like Vax but here's a catboi vote. no thoughts on the Twins wagon?

[Chara]

i'm here til deadline as well, not sure it will be necessary.

[Chara]

i'm not caught up, i just know Vax is run up. cliffnotes?

[Chara]

moves?

[Chara]

time ran out, town wasnt really interested in multiple possible avenues. I pushed for jjh due to beetlejuicing and not posting content, I came back a few hours later and here we are....

what's your opinion on the twins wagon?

i'm not an authority on jjh but in our last game (was town) he was fairly low-content, mostly just reads when he had them.

[Chara]

if visit a person in the night time, they are not allowed to move for that evening

you have a move that roleblocks? or prevents battle. what's the name of the move?

[Chara]

+0.5

[Chara]

For starters, I’m mindmelding with her on a lot of reads and based on experience playing with her, this looks like her towngame to me.

have you played with scum-me, Nancy?

(also i'm not a girl. :>)

pedit: lmao i just remembered it being plurality from this.

[Chara]

i don't see anything towny about the twins, but i'm fine with elimming Vax today. i had no read and i don't like the claim.

[Chara]

You don't see anything towny about them, but have they done anything scummy? What don't you like about the claim? ｢(ﾟﾍﾟ)

not seeing town behaviour is the same as seeing scum behaviour.
i don't like how Vax hasn't claimed a move name, seeing as that should be in there. there's something else but i don't think it's a good idea to discuss.

To follow further: The twins are voting vax. Do you dislike their vote on him?

i don't know, i think it's pointless to worry about it without flips. i haven't liked any of the twins votes, though. if you're implying i shouldn't be happy with the Vax wagon because the twins are on it? Vax is still a slot i'm fine flipping today.

[Chara]

its essentially a role block

This sucks, because im really pressed for time here at work, its getting busy for no reason (this is our slow time) so im having a hard time finding moments, and I leave for home in an hour and will not be on until 9EST... so yea...

worry about your work instead of mafia at this point. sorry if you're town though, that does suck.

[Chara]

VOTE: chara
Infinity doesn't have much faith in the Vax redflip and I feel like his sense on that sort of thing is good
-Protocol

What's the point in switching to Chara when there's 3 minutes left?

this does seem like a really weird thing to do that close to deadline. i'd assume Gamma knew at this point about plurality, too.

[Chara]

Its an ability. I have it. Vax claimed it and it doesn't do what he said it does.

Chara alluded to something being off in Vax's claim too so im assuming its that but we will see

Oblivious doesn't do what Vax said in the games either, which is what i was referring to. i expected that nothing would be 1 to 1 but i found it odd when my own role pm is accurate to the games. i was vague about it because i wanted to see if Vax would correct, i think.

[Chara]

You realize him voting you was what made me jump off you, right? I could've just stayed on you and kept the momentum there for deadline.

I was looking for bussers but I think jjh, raya, and the twins are all more or less town based off interactions with vax. Don't love infinity hopping off at the last minute but they got me back on vax in the first place, so, meh. Smoke and Mirrors spent a lot of time trying to tie misty to vax.

i could maybe agree on the Twins, i unfortunately don't remember Raya's interactions with Vax at all. jjh i know spent the whole day voting Vax, though the original vote was RVS, then there was the Slakoth pop in where Vax pushed jjh, then it was deadline. i don't have much confidence in my ability to read jjh but i'm assuming that's what you're referring to.

Infinity hopping off at the very last minute is a really strange thing to do if they're partners i think. there was basically no time to get more votes on me there.

[Chara]

some things change, Nancy hydraslipping every game stays the same. :>

[Chara]

so Raya pushed Vax probably the most, i feel dumb.

[Chara]

Smoke and Mirrors spent a lot of time trying to tie misty to vax.

i might have missed it on a skim, i'm playing on my phone, but while i can see Nancy scumreading both of them i'm not sure what you mean by tying misty to Vax specifically.

[Chara]

I don’t make this post as scum. I was also down with Vax.

Help me reconcile that post with Cards of Destiny. I recall I said very similar things that game towards you, and you chewed me up and spit me out. I don’t think you’re clueless or hypocritical enough to use an argument that would piss you off if it was used against you, so I think you’re scum.
-Gamma

i don't think Nancy would purposely do that as scum, either. if she wouldn't do it as town for those out of game reasons, she wouldn't be okay doing it as scum.

[Chara]

Dammit Chara so much for getting cleared by me.

Tho I guess if you're scum you probably lie there?

usually i hate being clear, but. it would be pretty tempting now.
whatever soft was there was entirely accidental. :>

[Chara]

i feel like i can see exactly where the misunderstanding is here but i don't think it's bad to let you two discuss it a little.

pedit: that's to Gamma.

pedit again: you would be surprised at the things i forget in general. i'd call it NAI.

[Chara]

now you know how i feel seeing everyone react to the term "cfd" as though it makes perfect sense.

i mean, i get it from context by now, but i have no idea what it stands for.

[Chara]

what reads of hers are bad?

i am wondering why you're so confident i'm town, as well.
pedit: to Nancy.

[Chara]

VOTE: chara
Infinity doesn't have much faith in the Vax redflip and I feel like his sense on that sort of thing is good
-Protocol

What's the point in switching to Chara when there's 3 minutes left?

this does seem like a really weird thing to do that close to deadline. i'd assume Gamma knew at this point about plurality, too.

I totally forgot about plurality, so it's possible Gamma did too.

a lot of players did (so did i), but it was pointed out a few posts before Gamma made the vote. i think my point still stands even if he didn't know but i find it likely he did.

[Chara]

Titus, i understand why Gamma voted Nancy there, but i'm not sure why you did.

re: jjh, i don't have the Booneytoons context but i did wonder if jjh's vote was left on Vax from an early distancing attempt, and then he failed to get momentum on anyone else because he lacked the time. when he did confirm he thought Vax was scum, it was near deadline.
i don't know how likely it is, it'd mean a misplay by scum jjh if anything, not really a plot. straightforward thinking says they're not scum together.

[Chara]

Tbh I don’t even know why we’re fussing about whether I knew plurality is a thing because

all that’s really been said on it is “it’s weird”

. And either way, I tried to get people to switch off the Vax wagon for chara. Does my knowledge of plurality really affect the optics of that?
But in all seriousness, I saw the post about plurality, in the post preview window iirc. Why do I attempt to deliberately prevent a majority lim as scum there, tbh? In Among Us mafia I hard pressed two scum for their hammer sitting D1. There’s no way scum!me expects to prevent a maj lim D1 and get away with it.
-Protocol

i don't know if this is directed at me, but i'm not fussing about plurality. my point remains largely the same whether you knew or not.

[Chara]

@Chara, Nancy's post was repulsive.

Re: jjh That's possible and I think that might be what happened to Bell in the Booneytunes game.

then why are you voting her for it? that doesn't make her scum. it means she said something you didn't like.

Gamma was upset by the post because Nancy called the players voting her insane. she clarified within that post that she meant "no one should be voting me here, that's crazy", but it definitely could come off as insulting if read another way.

i think it was a simple mistake on Nancy's part. maybe she should be more careful, yes, especially considering the argument Gamma is referencing from Cards.
but i don't... really think it's worth an "out of game vote", whatever that is.

[Chara]

Infinity hopping off at the very last minute is a really strange thing to do if they're partners i think. there was basically no time to get more votes on me there.

this was my point, Gamma.

[Chara]

Oh, btw, abilities do not necessarily reflect their in-game effect accurately. I can say that with absolute certainty and can claim if you want with probably minimal game impact

that's good to know, but i think it's best you don't claim for now.

[Chara]

the only townread on me i really like is bob's. it's so earnest and multi-faceted.

Nancy's is in-character but nothing particularly readable, i can't even comment on it's relevance to my scumrange when i don't know her alt, and i'm not asking her to out it.
(also, Nancy, i'd appreciate if you used they/them or it/its for me. <3)

[Chara]

Jjh is completely scum totally misrepping my day 1.

I spent all of day one vetoing bad executions. We got a good one, magine that.

That your taking credit for this is insane

Give examples. As I understand it you mostly sheeped where you felt like it; I didn't see you dismantling any wagons

Chara wagon

you sighed at a vote on me, but that's all i could find in your ISO. did you comment on the wagon on me that apparently happened that i should... probably go read?

[Chara]

my ability is Intimidate, in a battle i decrease the opponent's attack by 1.
i have one move, Iron Head, it has a 30% chance of skipping my opponent's attack. so basically, it has the flinch effect.

i don't have much time for mafia tonight, but i'll be here tomorrow.

VOTE: Red

[Chara]

bob Infinity and Nancy are town.
Raya, jjh, and the Twins are probably town based on lesser hunting mechanics colloquially known as "not intuition".

leaves Misty, Titus, kitty, and Red, and i think the last resolves itself mechanically, but i'll go over it better when i have time.

[Chara]

Misty is town

She is not obvious scum

For those of you who feel she is obvious scum, if she was both obvious scum and actually aligned with the scum, I would have reached that conclusion long before you in a similar manner to how I voteparked Vax for most of day 1, OR, in the referenced CoD with the referenced D&D

this is such a great post, in that i hate that jjh was able to make it but i also can't figure out a way to disagree with it

[Chara]

it's not me but i don't know if it'd be a good thing for wincon to have me continue to exist in this game with whatever that guilty was, however i do think it's more likely Red just went for a ballsy play he'll try to walk back on technicalities after the fact than shenanigans with a genuine result.

[Chara]

Red needs to claim, there's nothing he could have a guilty on. i'm mostly okay with going down on the condition he's not allowed to walk back on this later with how vague it was or claim framing. and just to confirm, i don't have any other abilities or anything that would false flag.
my reads haven't really changed from what i said yesterday. anyone in town tier is town full-stop. (that's bob, Infinity, Smoke and Mirrors, i'm unfortunately not confident enough to lock anyone else.)

[Chara]

actually i don't hate Misty's posts today, she's not wrong in that there are other possibilities as to what's happened here, though i find it exceedingly unlikely. i like to assume good play, and by that i mean assume that no one is going to fake a guilty as town.
the reason being mechanically, it is (almost always) the best idea to flip the guilty, because i know it's crap but no one else can know that. but with no clarification on what the result even was, and nothing i can think of that could have appeared to be a guilty besides the extreme edge case of framing, i'm really not okay with it.

pedit: nothing besides that, i'm not caught up. i know it'd be worthwhile to do so properly and see if i can't figure out more reads i'm happy with.

[Chara]

Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.

i think vax's reaction to being wagoned over jjh is hardclearing for jjh

Look at Vax's reaction in Booneytunes and tell me that again.

@Nancy, I'm not scum. I am sorry you felt attacked.

i think it's evidence towards jjh being town. but it's not hardclearing, Vax seemed annoyed at being run up but there was no particular ire towards jjh that i thought couldn't have been faked.
better evidence for jjh town would be voteparking Vax all day and not doing anything to find an alternative.

[Chara]

Ugh, I don't want to read up.

Red claimed a guilty on Chara?

Red had his bullshit push on me.

Strongly in favor of a Red lim by play.

I know strategically never eliminate the guilter before the guilty though.

While I am like 99.9% sure jjh is scum, it should be asked though...any chance of S v S?

pretty much this. besides the SvS thing.

unrelated to this post, i lean town on Titus. i'm not seeing her trying to subtly control the game the way she

tends

to as scum, and i don't think the way she's handled her VCA this game counts as that, either.
coming from the perspective of someone who also suspected jjh first overnight after double-ISOing him with Vax, even though i now think he's more likely town.

i also think scum Titus does more to actively try and dismantle the earlier wagon on me so she can claim cred for it later, instead of simply calling me town while not actively doing any defending.

[Chara]

Who do you think is scum then? You seem to have almost everyone as town

Red and kitty, possibly still Misty.

there is the possibility of being wrong on Titus as well, but i'm not sure how i'd quantify it against the possibility of being wrong on my other townreads. excepting the top three, but i'm actually not sure about bob anymore, though that is likely more to do with the passing of time than my initial thought being wrong.

[Chara]

Vax never had any ire towards Bell in Booneytunes either.

i don't think this is relevant to my point.

[Chara]

i recently finished my collection of every Pokemon game, excluding the original Red and Blue and Gold/Silver/Crystal.

i would say they're all good. Platinum is one of the best all-around, along with HGSS, though the latter two were difficult to find and overpriced.

another thing to watch out for is the prevalence of fake cartridges on sites like ebay.

if you want good ones that are easier to find, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are both pretty easy to pick up.

if you prefer the 2D graphics like me, Black and White along with their sequels do have the best story, and the regions are really fun to play through. gen V is also the first time Bug was made a competitive type, so that's another reason they're geeat.
but the Gen V games are another set that are annoying to get one's hands on.

Emerald is worth playing if you have the hardware. it has the best post-game in the series, and Hoenn is just a fun region.

[Chara]

i generally prefer the original Hoenn games to the remakes, but the remakes have Mega Mawile, which makes it very hard to decide.

[Chara]

i generally prefer the original Hoenn games to the remakes, but the remakes have Mega Mawile, which makes it very hard to decide.

[Chara]

can anyone here help me think of some more angelic pokemon in gen 4 or lower?

i'm making a serene grace theme team, but there are only three evo lines with the ability so i'm supplementing with pokemon that fit the vibe.

i have dragonair and shedinja right now.

[Chara]

i'm playing on legitimate cartridges so unfortunately Arceus isn't available. but i like the other suggestions!

[Chara]

good job town.

i had fun, but my mech-game is weak. then again i think even if i had trueclaimed my role, it would have been difficult to explain Infinity's getting hit by it.

anyway, i'm happy that momrangal continued on without her hydra partner and without any more teammates.

[Chara]

Look at this shit

jjh927

Pokemon Battles!

~ Role PM ~

---

4 HP | +1 ATK | -1 DEF | -2 EVA

You are

Slakoth

, aligned with the

TOWN

.

Ability

: Truant

• You cannot evolve. You cannot battle. You do not learn moves.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

---

Confirm your role by responding to this PM with your role and alignment!
GAMETHREAD

this is so funny.

[Chara]

as someone who had to take over as mod, i appreciated i didn't have to worry about any actions from u jjh

thank you for your service Fire <3

[Chara]

Where's Red at I wanna appreciate them for catching Chara because I don't think I'd have done that

oh, the frustration. and a good catch.

this is such a different game if Red had targeted anyone else. the fact that it was a soft rolecop sort of guilty and i fell for it is all the more frustrating. but not in a bad way.

[Chara]

my second picks were Venipede and Larvesta.