Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

[Titus]

Bbl usually busy Saturdays

[Titus]

If I am alive, in a day or two, I would request to be made demonic if no other target. It'll make me more readable. I imagine there's stronger powers but I know people struggle to read me.

At bottom of page 5.

[Titus]

Spoiler: ManateeGal

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

What's interesting about it?

your phrasing

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

What's interesting about it?

your phrasing

Not the fact people are being scummy?

no...? considering theres been like 3 pages and you havent outlined who youre talking about

i am hesitant abt shards bc from my understanding a certain amount turns a player demonic and mafia win w 7 demonic players

i'd assume the number of players that start demonic is 4-5 if 7 demonic players for a maf win

-53 is a bad response because I don't think the "phrasing" is the interesting part, or what that entails
-64 is scummy for asking about this and the response feels off.
-90 is worded like mafia write things and this is an easy angle for scum to take when discussing this mechanic
-93 seems like bad reasoning

Overall I think scum

VOTE: ManateeGal

Dunn's my first TR.

[Titus]

everyone skirting around normal communication is not helping

Mindmeld here.

[Titus]

I’ve liked Pooky so far he’s kinda reminded me of tarot Pooky

But I’m not really ever the best at reading him

I’ll see what bulge thinks when he’s around

Hmmph. Interesting.

[Titus]

At bottom of page 10

[Titus]

I feel like I have too many townreads.

Maybe my instinct is wrong, back to nullscum.

[Titus]

Not even hours into game its already 15 pages. would you guys slowdown for god sake!

Agreed. The volume makes it harder to read. I'll have to reread Sunday. Hard to get reads with divided attention.

[Titus]

Titus, ten pages in, you've seen the bulk of our wagon built, thoughts?

I find the lack of RVS odd. I'd expect some pushback regardless of your alignment. I'm glad we're not in RVS. I don't get why you have a wagon on you but reading for detail when playing DnD is hard.

[Titus]

I said exactly what I wanted to.

This feels tonally town.

[Titus]

@Titus, go on...

Go on?

[Titus]

I want you to go on about your read on me and how it changed between those posts, for the record.

I was concerned you were hemming to avoid stances at first.

[Titus]

ah

I feel like I was one of the earliest to actually explain some of their reads though? So thats kinda a weird take

Fair. You had words but I wasn't seeing stances. I also am struggling to see fine details.

[Titus]

@Annie, What would you like me to focus on during my read through?

Also, I suck day 1 and I'd rather be lim bait so I'm not going to be forceful.

[Titus]

Am I correct in thinking you agreed with Titus’s townread of Dunn?

Do you like Titus’ posting so far?

[✓]
[X]

[Titus]

Titus - reads like Titus.

[Titus]

LLD, want to play a game? I post in gifs only. You keep up your "restriction". We'll see who cracks first.

[Titus]

Ok, I totally missed that. I feel like a dick. I felt the PR was fake.

[Titus]

Titus talk to me about Manatee's readslist.

I didn't like Manatee's read on me. It basically passed the buck.

[Titus]

ninja-
I feel like there's been a lot of people mentioning outsourcing reads this game in general, Titus.

I never like it unless there's a specific slot. A vague pass the buck that is an autopass is bad. I don't deserve it.

[Titus]

Notsci is solved for btw.
They're town.

If you vote them you suck.

-Bell.

VOTE: notscience
UNVOTE: notscience

[Titus]

And the "I currently have too few thoughts on them to even put them in null" - aa9, lld, spiffeh, titus

Really on LLD? I get me. I'm being obtuse. The other two are lurkers. That's ok. But LLD being as "too few thoughts" is wrong.

[Titus]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Bad mouse.

-Bell

This made me look back at his iso lol

**Spiffeh throws manatee a lifeline**

**Manatee has a questionable response**

**Spiffeh abandons the thread**

This rarely happens.

[Titus]

Townreading to at least SOME degree: {ffery/Bell, notty, Dunn, Ceph/STD, Pooky}

It's late I'm tired bye

Fair

[Titus]

HURT: Titus

VOTE: Lukewarm

Willing to vote Manatee if needed.

[Titus]

There has to be scum hiding in the people refusing to read LLD. I (and now ceph) have shown how to interact and we’ve actually got decent answers out of her.

I’m going to take a look at that later I think.

+1

[Titus]

p sure LLD is town cuz theres no way the best thread control scum player randomly decides she wants to meme post in random images for lulz*






*throw this read out the fucking window if she's somehow alive anywhere close to the end game

LLD deciding she wants to do this is not likely random or deliberate. It's just a rarely seen side of LLD.

I still feel she's likely right on ManateeGal regardless of alignment. I just am in no rush to end the day.

[Titus]

HURT: Titus

VOTE: Lukewarm

Willing to vote Manatee if needed.

Explain?

See 803

[Titus]

HURT: Titus

VOTE: Lukewarm

Willing to vote Manatee if needed.

Explain?

See 803

803? What is it about Spiffeh's post that leads you to vote Lukewarm?

See 801 and 802

[Titus]

HURT: Titus

VOTE: Lukewarm

Willing to vote Manatee if needed.

Explain?

See 803

803? What is it about Spiffeh's post that leads you to vote Lukewarm?

See 801 and 802

weak soup imo.

Yup. It's day 1 and I'm doing my own investigation. It's far from a case.

[Titus]

Twenty pages 12 hours jfc

[Titus]

Annie I agree that you're town but I was left remiss with our conversation earlier about the topic of We. We being where I was even slightly hinting that I might vote Snarky Fishes and you shut it down by basically saying you were acting for the collective unconscious of town because you yourself thought they were town. This is destructive for D1 and people should vote whoever they want. That's the beauty of D1 and you don't give potential scum a prerogative so early. It's destructive and leads to confirmation bias, and very few people are good enough to have their confirmation bias be completely holistic D1.

#townbin

[Titus]

Titus seems unfamiliar to anything going on and doesn't seem like she cares.

I care. I just don’t care to lead. Even if I did, I have zero chance of keeping up with this game in a manner where I could lead. I'm also playing my role correctly. A slayer's gambit, provided I don't do it too well, is exactly what the doctor ordered.

[Titus]

End page 37, Luke is still scum.

[Titus]

I already asked Dunnstrall if they were scum.

I have two issues:
1. Shard handing out when we were possibly in auto-lose if the game wasn't adjusted.
2. I feel like their Titus read should be the exact opposite of the conclusion they reached. What's to stop Titus from lying about their ability or for them to be scum wanting an extra shard or somethin.

Or any other scenario really.*

-Bell.

Hmph, the thing is, I don't lie about my abilities. If there's ever an investigator, I'd be caught. Roles change based on whether or not someone is a demon or not. There's no way I could depend on not being investigated.

We shouldn’t be in autolose day 1. That's fucking stupid.

[Titus]

Are you saying asking for a shard was slayer's gambit

No, but related.

[Titus]

At 42, Medea is town, which makes this harder. I don't want her as my counterwagon.

[Titus]

43, Spiffeh might be scum.

[Titus]

Congratulations on your 5th anniversary.

No, Spiffeh, I won't town bin you just because you've asked and made some minor commentary and slightly wry self-observations


-Bell.

I like Bell for town.

I know such shocking observations.

[Titus]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Bad mouse.

-Bell

This made me look back at his iso lol

**Spiffeh throws manatee a lifeline**

**Manatee has a questionable response**

**Spiffeh abandons the thread**

Lukewarm and Spiffeh unlikely partners.

Still prefer Lukewarm.

[Titus]

While penguin works on her big post, let me casually just drop our bracketed reads completely naked ITT to generate a bunch of pages worth of P-edits for her.

{Dunnstral, Lady Rhea, Sleez, Fferyllt}
{Bell, Annie Edison, Pooky}
{Save the Ceph, AA9, Titus, Spiff}
{ManateeLass}
{Luke}

I like this reads list. I could sheep it.

If the game is consensus right and follow the Cabd, I'm never going to pull off what I want.

If I had to guess a team Luke, STD, AA9 would be the team.

Manatee goes a bit higher than you have her but that's a nitpick.

[Titus]

Iirc arc angel is generally unavailable on weekends. Same for Titus. That's what I meant about warped sense of post counts with the additional note that AA9 is in India so time zones are a thing.

+1, especially Saturdays

[Titus]

I'm not asking for the shard as a slayer's gambit. Getting the shard because I'm obvtown would defeat the purpose. I want the shard to be easier to read, because I'm hard to read in this player list + thread speed.

I'm also going to leverage the fact I'm hard to read by leaning into that and daring scum to wagon me since the PoE is so small.

[Titus]

@Spiffeh, I'm largely townreading people.

[Titus]

*That's true but I meant tonereading there.

[Titus]

This is either the day where I'm gloriously wrong for D1 or righteous for gut feelings

Because that's what my D1 is, pure gut feelings

That's where I am too. This game is moving far too fast to get my teeth into.

[Titus]

I'm having one of those moments, where I don't want to kill Titus or Spiffeh for OOG reasons.
I.e., I don't want to kill Titus every game like clockwork early.
I don't want spiffeh to hate this game if they're town.

Dragon looks better.

-Bell.

To be fair, I am baiting it a bit this game. I found it odd there have been no town takers, so there have been no scum takers following. It also suggests every wagon so far is wrong.

We should eliminate Lukewarm.

[Titus]

VOTE: Spiffeh

I still stand by my Madea townread. They aren't wrong in there reasons for townreading me. There are two differences in this and Warehouse 13. One, I'm not asking for a hard page cap. Two, my real life has changed significantly making it much harder to keep up with the pace of the game.

I think Lukewarm is scum, which makes me a little reluctant to actually vote Spiffeh due to me not thinking they are teamed from what little I have comprehended. Yet, my thinking on the wagons has Spiffeh as possible scum.

Can someone explain to me why Lukewarm is town and bold it so I know to really focus on it?

Same for Madea scum.

[Titus]

@Pooky, I am just as interested in being sharded. I just didn't repeat myself once the change happened. Why would you interpret me as being less interested after the announcement? I shouldn't need to mention it every single post. I am trying to do some scumhunting.

This vote, for the record, is a bad vote and my Pooky read drops significantly.

[Titus]

you should be more interested after the rules change than before the rules change if you're a town 1-sharder because risk/reward just took a big swing.

you feel less interested to me which feels like what a scumbag would feel cuz their win con just moved from really easily attainable to way less attainable.

That's utter bullshit you're arguing I am less interested.

I'm not sure what you mean by a 1-sharder. We should all be one-sharders.

Anyway, since my gambit caught Pooky, I will partially claim. In my demonic form, I am a friendly neighbor.

I know this group of players struggles to read me, and would eventually wagon me. So I figured I'd bait a scum to come up with a shitty reason to get on and Pooky took the bait.

[Titus]

VOTE: Pooky

[Titus]

Titus can you elaborate on why you're scum reading me? What about the wagons makes me possible scum?

Your tone just feels off. It's weak (hence why I just moved to Pooky). You're a counter to Madea who is frankly obvtown. The game stalled and scum plopped a vote on another alternative wagon.

I think it's Pooky, Lukewarm and you atm. You and Lukewarm are weaker because my reads on you two are tonal and unflipped wagon analysis.

[Titus]

HURT: titus

see wasn't that way easier

lets see if you can read this crumb : LEGAL DOCUMENT + SHIP

and no we aren't all one-sharders because this game would be a joke if we were.

My role PM mentions nothing about the shard amount needed. I'm a default sharder, whatever that means.

[Titus]

What about OUR vote on you

I already discussed why your vote on me was fair.

[Titus]

see wasn't that way easier

If I outright claim, I don't net scum. It's a small contribution but it's useful in catching opportunistic votes, which I knew would happen.

[Titus]

@Snarky, that's fair. I'll look it up when I get the chance. Right now, I am posting between court dates.

What do you think of Pooky's jump on?

[Titus]

I dont understand:
-how this is a gambit
-how this being a gambit meshes with 1965

Explain?

Slayer's gambit is a thing. Drawing FoSes and votes deliberately is a gambit.

[Titus]

@Annie, The reason why I played it the way I did is that it leaves scum with no good options.

If we shard me and then I get enough shards to turn demonic, I am removed from the elimination pool.

However, by not sharding me after I get sharded today, they are suggesting they want me in the elimination pool which indirectly suggests I am town.

The only move for them is to argue that I am not an FN to try and eliminate me before I get enough shards to become a demon. It forces them to tunnel me.

If they do decide to demon me and then roleblock me, then that's resources that aren't spent on our investigates which means they get shots off. Plus, they'd risk being tracked and or watched as I'd be an ideal target for such investigations if they occurred.

If they tried to kill me, they kill in the miselimination pool rather than obvtown who actually can lead the game.

There's no chance I draw a CC either as scum would not pick a 1 v 1.

Their only move is to FoS and vote me. Thus, Slayer's gambit is the move.

[Titus]

However, by not sharding me after I get sharded today, they are suggesting they want me in the elimination pool which indirectly suggests I am town.

This doesn't make sense given what you've said about your role?

It does. If I don't get sharded, I don't get my friendly neighbor abilities thus I cannot confirm my claim. This, in theory, would keep me in the miselimination pool longer. Scum want me in the pool, but they make the choice to go further from their wincon. It suggests scum don't want me to confirm myself (suggesting I am town) as scum would want to shard themselves. The only reason scum wouldn't shard me is to keep me in the pool which suggests I am town.

[Titus]

Like look at the elims we had in tenet. If you told me pregame we’d miselim peta, skitter (thinking back with what I know now ofc), FL, I’d have called you crazy. I just don’t know why Titus thinks this group would focus on the LHF unless it’s like a slight shift from unwnds mentality?

In tenet, I had no charisma and predicted exactly (strategically not specfic eliminations) how it would go. Here, I expect to have no charisma in this list. Doubly so with RL.

[Titus]

What keeps scum Titus from claiming to have never received a second shard from scum

Investigators and demonic announcements.

[Titus]

Pooky is scum.

[Titus]

To elaborate further, scum would have to forgo making other people demonic to hide the fact I got a shard in your scenario. The risk of the announcement exposes that as a bad idea as town might have a compulsive shard giver. This also could be caught by investigating people. It's a bad plan.

[Titus]

How many shards do you need to get the FN/become demonic again?

The default number. I have none now. I need to check the ruleset.

[Titus]

How many shards do you need to get the FN/become demonic again?

The default number. I have none now. I need to check the ruleset.

The sample mafia role PM has two shards to be demonic. Supposing town need the same amount of shards, two. Verifying with the mod.

[Titus]

I'm not sure what you mean by a 1-sharder. We should all be one-sharders.

What did this mean?

I was supposing everyone only needed one shard to be demonic, since my role PM didn't say. There's talk of two shards being needed though.

[Titus]

Unless otherwise specified, a player is considered "Demonic" if they have two or more shards, otherwise, they are classified as "Human". Players may start with 0 or more shards per their role

Ok I missed that. I need two shards.

[Titus]

I'm not sure what you mean by a 1-sharder. We should all be one-sharders.

What did this mean?

I was supposing everyone only needed one shard to be demonic, since my role PM didn't say. There's talk of two shards being needed though.

It looked to me like you were claiming to have started with 1 shard and were assuming everyone does. That's why I grumbled about reading the setup info.

No. I did not start with a shard. I can see the confusion with the wordings there. I was referring to 1 shard being needed not that I was in possession of a shard.

[Titus]

And I was highly skeptical that someone with a demonic ability to become mod confirmed town would start the game with 1 shard.

That's fair.

[Titus]

Titus, a few things when you have time:

At one point you were scumreading Spiffeh. Where are you on him now?

Same question on STD.

Did you ever play with AA9 back in the day?

--PA

Lean scum, but I have been skimming.

Null, gtmh town. I was scumreading them earlier but their reaction and tone changed.

I have only played with a lurky AA9 as far as I recall. I make allowances for it in my read of her.

[Titus]

Define lurky AA9?

Low rate of posting when present, prodded frequently.

Given the pace of the game, I am surprised AA9 has posted this much.

[Titus]

Define lurky AA9?

Low rate of posting when present, prodded frequently.

Given the pace of the game, I am surprised AA9 has posted this much.

Do you think the nature/depth of the lurk is AI for her?

I don't understand this question. I'm going to guess though.

I feel the content AA9 has tried to give is townier than the last game I played with her when she was scum, see Large Normal 234.

[Titus]

Yes. That's correct.

[Titus]

I feel I need to reread Madea due to LLD reaching out to me. LLD usually rages at me, so I'll give her a chance

[Titus]

Madea did also vote me. I felt it was a fair vote though as nothing was false.

[Titus]

@Snarky/LLD, please hurt tag me.

[Titus]

And now I'm actively confused. Titus was Mafia, part of the winning faction in a game that just wrapped a week ago, and she's saying it was AA9 who was scum?

Please clarify. And maybe confirm your read here?

--PA

I remembered she was scum. :/ Memory sucks.

[Titus]

LLD, why are you reaching out to me in particular? What do you feel about Madea's push on me given I've been a screwball?

[Titus]

You’ll probably have an easier time if you give her options to chose from.

I am aware but it's hard to put that in a question format.

[Titus]

This is just PA right now. You can get a more blended post from us later when we're back in the same county again.

First, I apologize that I couldn't be around last night. I feel really badly about telling people (Dragons) I wanted to talk and then ditching instead.

More useful to the game though, slogging down the Dan Ryan is surprisingly good for mulling over Reads: Why I Have Them, so here's where I am for all of you waiting so raptly:

Town

Dunnstral: He's just town to me. Aside from the mechanics understanding missing, I haven't seen a post from him that doesn't feel like it's coming from a town mindset. No attempts to ingratiate himself with others, no jumping to post opinions that others want to see from him. Measured in a way that comes from a town mindset.

AA9: This is probably the opposite of my Dunnstral read while still ending up as town. Way back in the day I got to play a lot of games with AA9. My temperament wasn't such that I usually (ever?) ended up getting pulled into her spat-fight type posting as a co-jouster, but I witnessed a lot of her play. It's...pretty much textbook town!AA9. If she managed to go on a multi-year hiatus and come back to jump into her first playing game perfectly replicating her town style as scum, well then, hats off. I'm hoping she can come in and reset from her and notscience's scenery-chewing fest and generate content elsewhere. But hard town read for me.

Annie Edison: Town read. I don't like all their content this game, but I like their in-the-moment reactions. Dropping off us and then circling back later felt like genuinely reassessing town. Dropping the elimbait AA9 fight and the way they did it, town. I'm aiming to go back and reread some of their posting with a more firm town-alignment assumption for them and see what I get from it.

Snarky Fishes: Yes, Bell, you can ride with ffery for me again. I've only skimmed a bit of what got posted last night, but I'm seeing some game-solvy stuff I like from Bell specifically (even if I think my take on Pooky is different). And having also spent some time navel-gazing about my own hydra dynamic with Cabd, I think I get what ffery is looking for, not seeing, and freaking about. I like their reachout to Lukewarm, and I like their thought processes elsewhere too. Moving on, but can elaborate more later today if asked.

Leaning Town

Spiffeh: I'm not a Spiffeh reading machine like some other players here purport to be. I've liked him more and more as the day goes on. I see him looking to engage and being...flashy? It's a lean, and I need to fully catch up and see if/what he posted last night more. P-edit: saw his 'first ten pages' thing and kind of like some of what he's seeing in hindsight. Happy with him in this tier.

Rhea: I'll start with my impression of LLD as a player overall. I don't see her as someone who has conversations with people who aren't her elim targets with the goal of having her mind changed. She engages with those people to make them believe her point of view, as town or scum. To me it probably doesn't much matter if Rhea's the one playing; I'm seeing the same kind of approach here from her. Her reachouts of 'talk to me' are 'ask me questions so I can tell you what you should be thinking.' I think I wish I was seeing more of a freely-chosen target choice more often from her here. Maybe someone else can frame this better. In terms of her alignment here, I'm leaning town but don't have anything shiny to point to in support of that. Just a 'surprised Rhea makes the plays she does here as scum' feeling.

Sleez/unwnd: I liked the Sleez posting better. Sorry? I suspect a lot of my discomfort with his play since then is because he's very much focuses on the clique thing, and for me personally the idea of being in a clique is uncomfortable and not how I want to see myself. Something I have to address internally I suppose if I opt to play any more games going forward. I don't like the framing around interacting with us as 'I do/don't trust you' because barring your own role PM or mod-confirmed info, you never fully trust someone. It's a lot of bluster about something that I don't think is very relevant to working toward game-solving as town. Having said that, I liked the independent thought from Sleez earlier on, and I appreciate the food for thought of some of his reads here.

Averaging out to Null

Pooky: I think my take on Pooky is colored by often having read his recent games either knowing his alignment or seeing his first few days of posting from a more removed point. But I'd disagree with Bell in that regard, that usually I can see where town-Pooky is pushing people toward content or doing things he can sort rather than going off into the outfield to pick daisies like he does as scum. I think he's a bit like Cabd-scum in that this can change if he sees something shiny worth doing in the main game as scum, but then it tends to be more--insular?--like the LOLMasons in that FakeGod game. I'm not seeing anything here so far that makes me think town!Pooky. That might change in a couple game days with more data, but that's where I am now.

Here There Be Dragons: I'm still at the flashes thing. I'm moving y'all up to null because a) I haven't read your overnight content and b) in my commute today amidst my navel-gazing about how my own hydra with my husband is working/not working so far, I think I have some sympathy for the dynamic of taking two people who may be quite complementary IRL and making their games mesh for the thread's consumption. I'll try to have more here later today.

Lean Scum

I'll preface this category with 'this is very mushy and I don't like how I've interacted with two of the three of these players entirely, but I also don't like how they've posted, so shrugface?'

Lukewarm: Yes, I'm leaning scummy here, but I don't want to vote here today. I don't like a lot of what I've seen, and some of that may be old-school sensibilities coming out, but I don't like that he jumped into my line of questioning at Dunnstral. I thought it was rude and unproductive for my read on him. I triple-ISO'd it and while it did end up cementing a Dunnstral town read for me, if Dunnstral had responded in a way I read as scummy I wouldn't have trusted it as much because of the derail. I'm not seeing town play here, but I want to give space and see what's generated today, plus what Lukewarm might do with actual flip data. I wasn't impressed with his reaction to the Snarky Fishes reachout yesterday; it seemed half-hearted after all the talk of wanting to be townread by ffery. IIRC it worked for ffery to read him better, and part of the 'not voting here today' thing is that I am townreading ffery and am willing to give some weight to her opinions.

ManateeGal: I'm seeing a lot of whiplash here, from an initial scummy reaction to being suspected that reads like a lot of squawky scum to trying to react 'right' to what people are saying in the thread. I'm not as happy about this read because I feel like I've been sticking my own oar in her reactions, and this is where Cabd's style really doesn't mesh with mine. I would have rather stayed mum about my interpretation of her reaction and readslist to see if she'd get there on her own instead of (relatively quickly) pointing out what I saw as a non-town mindset in her play. I feel like I've tainted my read on her, but I have a hard time seeing where I'd ever townbin her after her early play here.

Titus: Nothing in Titus's ISO feels town to me. There's a disproportionate reliance on the mechanic that I don't like on Day One, and while I make allowance for the weekend, I don't feel like there's any attempt to get into the game from a solving perspective. I don't buy the 'OMG game has so many pages' thing partially because she was quite critical of the idea of page limits in my Warehouse 13 game. To me, that implies being fine with Day One rambling on from a game perspective. She's also avoiding really mixing it up with anyone, and I don't feel like it's coming from a town place. More of a 'keep head down, shove the problem down the line, and see where I can jump later' thing that comes from a scum playbook.

VOTE: Titus

No, this isn't a fun vote, but it's where I think scum is living, and I'm more interested in cutting down scum numbers (especially since I suspect that if she's scum she isn't demonized yet) than having brilliant insights.

--PA

Let's try this.

@LLD, what do you think are the scummiest parts of this post? Bonus points if you can use a video to supplement.

[Titus]

Random OOG note: I'm throwing an in person get together at Great Escape Games on the 17th through the 20th of September. It's in Sacramento. Check out General Discussion for more information.

[Titus]

Idk I’m trying to translate for you because she’s not for whatever reason

She's saying she think I missed it and she thinks it's not something I would catch.

[Titus]

@Titus.

Specifically this. If you thought that you only needed 1 shard to turn demonic, what did you mean by "If we shard me and then I get enough shards to turn demonic" and what did you mean by if the scum team does "not shard me after I get sharded today" given you thought you only needed 1 shard to turn demonic?

What were you supposing wrt to the scum team giving you more shards, after you had already turned demonic?

I was confused. I have not been batting one hundred percent. I was corrected. I supposed only one shard was needed but corrected myself to two shards.

I would hope that I was ingenious enough to con the scumteam into giving me additional shards but I am nowhere near the mental state I would need to pull that off in this playerlist. The risk greatly outweighs the rewards.

[Titus]

@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.

[Titus]

@Lukewarm, What do you think of the reactions to my gambit?

@LLD, Are Madea, Pooky, and Lukewarm good votes?

[Titus]

@Lukewarm, I'm not sure when I figured it out. I was confused and probably thinking both simultaneously until Annie quoted the mod for me. There's no way I can know the exact post when I was first told. The mod got back to me right as Annie posted.

Anyone else have any thoughts on Titus's tone in responding to me. Because imo, it looks like she forget that I am one of scum reads that she has been pushing for a long time.

Spoiler:

End page 37, Luke is still scum.

Lukewarm and Spiffeh unlikely partners.

Still prefer Lukewarm.

If I had to guess a team Luke, STD, AA9 would be the team.

We should eliminate Lukewarm.

I think Lukewarm is scum, which makes me a little reluctant to actually vote Spiffeh due to me not thinking they are teamed from what little I have comprehended.

I think it's Pooky, Lukewarm and you atm. You and Lukewarm are weaker because my reads on you two are tonal and unflipped wagon analysis.

There is no hint of the immediate doubt in my genuineness I would expect from someone seeing one of their biggest scum reads coming at them with a potentially incriminating line of questioning

I have already said that a) I thought you were scum and b) scum would push me because they had no other place to go. To demand I say that in every reply is scummy and looking for reasons to scumread me. Pooky did that and now you are too.

You're also trying to rehash a conversation that happened in real time and trying to place an unreasonable burden of pointing out to recreate the exact process of my thoughts when it's there in the thread. You're flailing looking for some gotcha moment.

I reacted to you and gave you a chance to show if you were scumhunting this game by asking you about the reactions to my claim. You sidestepped this. Then you tried to claim no one else asked me questions about my read. That's a blatant lie (Annie, SF, and Maeda all had questions) designed to turn the thread back to me.

VOTE: Lukewarm

[Titus]

{fferybell, ArcAngel9}
{Titus*, Annie} *I have not done more than skim about the Luke case made about the claim and need to go re-read for content.
{Dunn, Spiff, Uwnd, Pooks}
{Rhea, Dragons}
{Luke*, Manatee} *See above note about Luke's recent content

Let's talk.

Here's mine

Ffery, SF
Annie, Dunn
Unwnd, AA9, Madea
STD, Manatee, Rhea (Null)
Spiffeh (gtmh scum)
Pooky
Lukewarm

[Titus]

Did you just count Ffery twice

...ffery IS SF? Typo? or did you mean to have another name next to them?

Just that town lmfao



The odds of me ever getting sheeped on Lukewarm go down by the hour, but I tell you he's scum.

[Titus]

I forgot LLD, she's in the Annie tier.

[Titus]

I guess the ones I'd be most interested in are your Dunn-read and your Pooky read, given where our lists diverge somewhat.

Pooky doesn't have anything really town about him and fell for the bait.

Dunnstral has been pretty vocal for him and I don't see anything in his posts that look scummy. He's also not posting wordy things in short bursts to look like he's contributing. He's straight to the point and in a game like this, I like it.

[Titus]

I forgot LLD, she's in the Annie tier.

You didn't forget her though?

She's in your list under "Rhea"

I copy pasted your list. I haven't once referred to LLD as Rhea.

[Titus]

Well before that copy paste. LLD is not null and you can tell by how I treat her. It's LLD's confidence that stops Madea from being a higher read.

[Titus]

Need today off all games. Mental health.

[Titus]

I had a quick thought while driving. I have not read any detail whatsoever but I saw something that struck me by AA9. She basically tried to chainflip me and Lukewarm. While I'd bet Luke is scum, that post makes me doubt it.

[Titus]

@Luke, Genuine confusion doesn't make sense.

[Titus]

All town had to do was trust me. I caught Pooky and nope.

Oh well still 100% lose rate when I am miseliminated. Good job scum.

[Titus]

Oh, @Titus, if you check in. I'm sorry :/

Yeah Titus was done dirty

I would not have let her lim go through if I was paying attention the last 48 hours of that phase

Titus was the elim I feel worst about.

Thanks guys.