Mini 2243: Chromatic Ascension || Game Over!

[Knight Lavender]

Greetings, salutations.

Many a strategy for this setup has been passed onto us by our elders.

I dare suggest that anyone not familiar with the tales of old read up on the exploits of the party with all sorts of mystical creatures.

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May we be so lucky as to follow in the footsteps of giants.

[Knight Lavender]

Knight Lavender, wouldst thou share thy ancestral strategems that we might, in thy own words, become wiser in the hearing?

The false prophet put it best:

Subject: A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

Some more game analysis: I believe that the scum team was particularly weak this round. Getting left out as scum in pre-dance should be avoidable as long as you didn't roll 3 gentleman or something ridiculous like that, and none of the scum players were much influential in the day game. Staying quiet and looking okay is passable, but you're never going to make the endgame pair like that. The mafia wins of the previous iterations had strong dayplay from the scum players, with possible exception of the summer waltz where Luna Fox threw. I agree with Something_Smart that losing the original gentleman 1 was quite a blow.

We go extremely hard to scrutinize every warm-cold blossom of love, and we leave one of the nasties out in the pasture.

[Knight Lavender]

Knight Daffodil

, I cannot read what it is you are saying with much ease.

I believe I have identified at least two likely Knights of Hue candidates. The rainbow gods gaze upon us brightly today.

My good red fellow, we've gone over this. You cannot list me twice.

[Knight Lavender]

My good red fellow, we've gone over this. You cannot list me twice.

If you lavender a lavender lavender, is it a lavender lavender lavender or simply a lavender lavender?

I am a lavendarish lavender, who lavenders lavenderly.

I get the feeling the

crimson

witch of flames and I would get along swimmingly.

What is marriage but an opportunity to learn more about each other, after all?

[Knight Lavender]

My, my, I wish I could express more surprise, but honestly, I'd have been more surprised if a swift proposal

didn't

occur.

I'm taken in by

Lavender

's lavenderly manner of speaking and ideals for marriage. Color me intrigued.

What can I say?

My reads are but my own will and feelings, and I shall not hold back for the sake of it being early.

I wish for you to be taken off the table with a cool knight who will love, cherish, and nurture your bonds.

And who better to do so than me, myself?

[Knight Lavender]

Knight Lavender, wouldst thou share thy ancestral strategems that we might, in thy own words, become wiser in the hearing?

The false prophet put it best:

Subject: A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

Some more game analysis: I believe that the scum team was particularly weak this round. Getting left out as scum in pre-dance should be avoidable as long as you didn't roll 3 gentleman or something ridiculous like that, and none of the scum players were much influential in the day game. Staying quiet and looking okay is passable, but you're never going to make the endgame pair like that. The mafia wins of the previous iterations had strong dayplay from the scum players, with possible exception of the summer waltz where Luna Fox threw. I agree with Something_Smart that losing the original gentleman 1 was quite a blow.

We go extremely hard to scrutinize every warm-cold blossom of love, and we leave one of the nasties out in the pasture.

Is that not more or less obvious? Try to save the good and eliminate the bad, it hardly needs restating. Why did you believe this to be pertinent?

Twas but a shameless play for the sole purpose of getting the field to think before they leapt. Common sense is hardly assuredly common these days, after all.

[Knight Lavender]

Oh by the way I gave few dance games a quick skim.
It looks like the one of the biggest problem that is happening in dance games seem to be town leaving the dance, often after an emotional outburst.
I think we should avoid doing that.

Tis true, although dances with such beautiful masks such as the ones we have donned lead to less of that.

[Knight Lavender]

If anyone should object to holy matrimony, speak now, or forever hold your peace (until the voting period, should you be so uncouth as to want to harm my innocent and charming mate)

[Knight Lavender]

Knight Lavender, wouldst thou share thy ancestral strategems that we might, in thy own words, become wiser in the hearing?

The false prophet put it best:

Subject: A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]

Some more game analysis: I believe that the scum team was particularly weak this round. Getting left out as scum in pre-dance should be avoidable as long as you didn't roll 3 gentleman or something ridiculous like that, and none of the scum players were much influential in the day game. Staying quiet and looking okay is passable, but you're never going to make the endgame pair like that. The mafia wins of the previous iterations had strong dayplay from the scum players, with possible exception of the summer waltz where Luna Fox threw. I agree with Something_Smart that losing the original gentleman 1 was quite a blow.

We go extremely hard to scrutinize every warm-cold blossom of love, and we leave one of the nasties out in the pasture.

Is that not more or less obvious? Try to save the good and eliminate the bad, it hardly needs restating. Why did you believe this to be pertinent?

Twas but a shameless play for the sole purpose of getting the field to think before they leapt. Common sense is hardly assuredly common these days, after all.

I find this reply surprising. I see more of use in post 16 than either of you characterize it, but now that you're folding I wonder if you even meant to say what I believed you had said. I thought it was an insight into the significance of the proposal phase.

Oh, do not mistake me, the proposal phase is where the best reads are formed.

But I would hardly call my reply a fold. Merely another wrinkle on the collective town brain.

[Knight Lavender]

Of those who could cry out, none of them so blithely have stepped forward.

I Accept

Let our dance echo throughout the ages.

[Knight Lavender]

Of those who could cry out, none of them so blithely have stepped forward.

I Accept

Let our dance echo throughout the ages.

I did, though.

Pardon, of those who could cry out that I cared to hear the opinion of, rather!

I echo lady rainbow's opinion, hear, hear, tell us of your concerns about my fair beau.

[Knight Lavender]

Knight Crimson and Knight Lavender have formed a Palette!

Everything in life leading up to this moment was worth it. What a pretty transition.

[Knight Lavender]

Crimson is the hot headed tsundere of my dreams, the accent of fluff is but a little seasoning to make them more huggable.

[Knight Lavender]

I admire that Beige stands firm in their dismissal when it would be easy enough to, as they say, roll over and accept consensus.

[Knight Lavender]

Is not the purpose of life to obtain as they call it "normies flirting status"?


Goodbye old friend of the blue and wine. You will both be missed.

I would like to see blue given to one who is as pure at heart as they.

[Knight Lavender]

Lavender, promise me that you will do everything in your power to not take an early leave. I don't know if I could handle losing you so abruptly.

I can easily make this promise, love.

I shall have no other account, no other passion, than your fiery embrace.

[Knight Lavender]

I am also having a little trouble keeping everyone straight, but I think Azure is town.

Can you explain why please? I don’t get that vibe.

I wish to answer this as well, but only after the yellow flower has had their chance to say their piece.

[Knight Lavender]

This was entirely similar to a thought I had on Lavender I'd noted down but had yet to post. There's a dissonance between their opening and talk of wanting to "go extremely hard" and their subsequent behavior of pairing rather quickly. That wasn't a stupid thought at all!

I will concur that it is not stupid at all! There is a very specific type of person that I prefer to pair with in games such as these. That said personality type was out the gates looking to get hitched forced me to play speed checkers instead of the slow and methodical chess game I'd laid out as ideal, but I regret it not. I can only hope that it pays as many dividends as prior.

[Knight Lavender]

Might I suggest a break for you both while you see other people?

Page inflation, chaos, apathy, those are tools of those who seek to do us harm.

Let us not allow such things to happen here.

[Knight Lavender]

Wait Lavender what do you think of Chart

While you're here

As of right now, I feel that you're both stubborn fools of light heart.

I would not place my feet into the sparring circle if I'd felt otherwise.

In your case, your predecessor has very specific things that are hard for him to have faked, and your brash posts since taking upon the blue mantle have pinged well.

In the case of the chartrouse one, my read is not nearly as deep, but a surface level good vibe, as it were.

In some ways it makes me jealous, to see you two bicker like an old married couple.

[Knight Lavender]

This was entirely similar to a thought I had on Lavender I'd noted down but had yet to post. There's a dissonance between their opening and talk of wanting to "go extremely hard" and their subsequent behavior of pairing rather quickly. That wasn't a stupid thought at all!

I will concur that it is not stupid at all! There is a very specific type of person that I prefer to pair with in games such as these. That said personality type was out the gates looking to get hitched forced me to play speed checkers instead of the slow and methodical chess game I'd laid out as ideal, but I regret it not. I can only hope that it pays as many dividends as prior.

Also, and forgive me if this appears as a lecture and not the genuine friendly advice and question it is intended as, but...

Why did you not hold your tongue to see if the knight in question indeed stopped giving effort and rested on their laurels before tipping your hand? Were I to be of malice, I would not have known you were tracking such efforts.

[Knight Lavender]

ADDITIONALLY:
The Rainbow Knight was given the choice of Warm or Cool. They have picked Cool.

Tonight, The Rainbow Knight will be able to visit someone to host a very special, very private chat. A great honor, given from the most illustrious Knight of Hue. Do you hope it will be you?

Can someone explain to me why people are assuming Rainbow Knight is town?

I do not see anything that says they are an innocent child?

The rainbow maiden is town not due to their role, or anything Lady Ydrasse says, but due to their words and deeds, if my opinion can be submitted.

[Knight Lavender]

Yddrasse

It is good to know I am not the only one who struggles with her name, in that I always tend to make it dd instead of the mere singleton required.

[Knight Lavender]

While I'm willing to take this under advisement, I do caution that GiF is English Second Language. He often has errors parsing complex roles and specific wordings. The flowery language upon which the Rainbow Maiden's role rests is quite thick, indeed.

I played with him many many moons ago.

I will read the link you've provided now, though, and draw my own conclusions.

[Knight Lavender]

I love when I make the same post as my love.

[Knight Lavender]

We are purely allowed to talk about the prior occupant of each slot.

As you know this now, you may discuss it if you wish.

[Knight Lavender]

Can we just leave Seafoam out

I feel dumb just going

Yeah

The person who is not posting must be scum

But like

Scum don't really post unless they have to

Or they like being scum

Once again, this is not dumb. In fact, sorting by post count was a winning strategy in the dance featuring the false prophet.

[Knight Lavender]

Why are you being nice to me

Being nice is a free action, after all.

[Knight Lavender]

My reads are starting to feel as if they're sorted by post count, as well.

This is a mistake, not because it's unlikely for scum to not post in an anon game, but because familiarity breeds laziness and we can't have that.

I should probably start making old school bracketed reads and force myself to place colors appropriately.

I enjoy that the pace of this game is manageable, and that for the most part things have stayed civil. Games in the past few years have rarely followed that trend, and I'd love to keep things in that realm.

We pretty much blew past "RVS" on page one.

[Knight Lavender]

but I just want to say that I wasn't TR'ing the first Crimson but I'm TR'ing this Crimson.

Crimson never got replaced, you're thinking of burgundy. So who do you really townread?

I also came here to make this inquiry.

I have but one love of my life.

[Knight Lavender]

Hmm, I am satisfied with this outcome, and quite honestly think that all three of my fellow knights in the "got a ring on it" club are pure of heart.

If I were to be so greedy, my last "endgame pairing" would be the lady of rainbows with the light calming yellows of daffodils.

[Knight Lavender]

That's an... extremely reductionist take. Do you care to quote what posts stood out to you as the 20 percent content, then? I feel like even whenn we post in flowery language, game content is being conveyed.

[Knight Lavender]

I feel my intent has been mistaken.

My message to the knight of the Pokemon League Indigo Plateau was not intended as shade, but as the opening of a dialogue to help them express what parts of the game they did have thoughts about.

That it was slapped down and taken as hostile makes me sad, but communication is a two way street so I accept that I could have worded things better.

[Knight Lavender]

My timing could not have been more tragic.

Alas.

[Knight Lavender]

My timing could not have been more tragic.

Alas.

Not true, you could have been the one who spat on the player right before the replacement was announced.

Also a fair point.

[Knight Lavender]

my crush Crimson

Was this not a town read on Crimson?

[Knight Lavender]

the attitude

I am sorry if you felt my question was shade, but I assure you, it was quite legitimately a question meant to get on the track of discussing how you came to be jealous of my marriage.

[Knight Lavender]

A game of this size (13 players) would normally be approaching page 100 by now.

In contrast, this game is nice and dense and meaty at a mere 20.

By all means, sing us the songs of your heart's desires.

[Knight Lavender]

And yes please sing. Sing it for the boys! Sing it for the girls! Sing it for the enbies all over the world!

Sing with me a song of birthrights and love
The light scatters to the sky above
Dawn breaks through the gloom, white as a bone
Lost in thoughts all alone

[Knight Lavender]

Sorry

This is an apology for forgetting the rainbow maiden, and not an apology for posting reads in a mafia game about forming reads, right?

[Knight Lavender]

A quick check with our most gracious host has confirmed that should a final pair be made, the remainder of our time is lost to the void.

Once five becomes three, those who would make three into one should take their time, lest we let haste make waste.

[Knight Lavender]

A quick check with our most gracious host has confirmed that should a final pair be made, the remainder of our time is lost to the void.

Once five becomes three, those who would make three into one should take their time, lest we let haste make waste.

Do we need it though? A majority of us have scumreads and townreads? What does delaying do for us except stagnate the game?

It would seem that my words being mistaken for more than they are is a running gag in this game.

Treat my post as informative more than advisory, despite the flowery prose of the second line.

If nothing else, getting discussion on how to handle it is valuable in and of itself.

[Knight Lavender]

Whichever of you kindly described me as a support is generally correct.

I am the Soraka of this thread. This game is moving at a healthy pace with minimal fighting and I intend to do my best while here to keep it that way.

Nobody likes the fifty pages in twenty four hours pace that some recent games on site have ran.

And who can blame us? That is absolutely insane to try to read and process.

[Knight Lavender]

I apologize for my elongated absence but I am feeling a little under the weather.

I will try my best to be back to my chipper supportive self soon.

[Knight Lavender]

I just got home, and apparently this game is now that one meme with the guy delivering pizza to the burning building.

Is this not transparently a WIFOM shot to cover a S-S pairing by getting a wider pool of elims on T-T pairs?

Because in the hot seat, that is exactly the play I would have made.

Somebody on the mafia team is a fellow lover of mind games, it would seem.

[Knight Lavender]

oh that neighborhood

she told me you were very townie and we mostly talked about how amazing our dates were and how Azure should eat a bag of rocks.

I asked her for her readslist/your readslist but she didn't give me anything so I think maybe she didn't trust me?

WOAH WOAH WOAH WHAT THE FUCK.

I posted both my reads and crimson's reads in the same post. Well before the start of this day.

Explain yourself.

[Knight Lavender]

I just got home, and apparently this game is now that one meme with the guy delivering pizza to the burning building.

Is this not transparently a WIFOM shot to cover a S-S pairing by getting a wider pool of elims on T-T pairs?

Because in the hot seat, that is exactly the play I would have made.

Somebody on the mafia team is a fellow lover of mind games, it would seem.

Can you explain this post again because it doesn't make sense to me

I think there's potentially a scum S-S pairing, with one deepwolf paired to one LHF scum. By making a WIFOM kill in the "middle fo the pack" T-T pairings, they increase paranoia on the remaining T-T pairs, which at this point in time I believe is my own, and one more. Remember, even if there's a S-S pairing, a T-T pairflip is game over. This increases their target size from one to two. I would say the other is rainbow's, but she outright LIED about the reads in the hood so now I don't know.

[Knight Lavender]

There were my reads during my reread over night two, independent of pairings:

{Chartreuse, Marigold, Rainbow, Crimson}

{Indigo, Daffodil}

{Beige, Seafoam}

{Rose}

The flip of a "middle to lower" pack T-T pair makes me think we're going full on mind games, as I mentioned before. I suspect we've got a S-S pair with a deepwolf paired to a non-deepwolf.


Now the currently living pairings with my original reads applied...

Knight Crimson - Knight Lavender

Knight Beige

-

Knight Chartreuse

Knight Daffodil

-

The Rainbow Knight

Knight Rose

-

Knight Indigo

I don't have enough scum in there.... If there's a S-S pairing, it pretty much has to be Rose-Indigo..... but with how the end of day zero went down, I'm not really sure that it's the case? If I take back the rainbow hood stuff I set aside, it is POSISBLE that rainbow-daffy are both extremely competent deep wolf players and that's why everything feels lopsided. Crimson is 50000000% town and the only way they die if by leaving the dance or we get voted, I am 100% firm that crimmy's town and never leaving. I had flashes of paranoia but then I re-read the day one ISO.

Rainbow.... what made you choose to neighborize me exactly?

Do people think that rainbow could have genuinely missed the reads I sent her?

[Knight Lavender]

Do people think that rainbow could have genuinely missed the reads I sent her?

I can't see what scum agenda lying about it could possibly serve.

The logical side of me knows this, but the monkey-brain side feels something is amiss, and monkey-me tends to win more endgames than human brain.

It's why I'm blatantly asking for extra input.

[Knight Lavender]

Lav's actions in my PT

Elaborate?

Allow me.

While I am doing my best to remain composed and within the spirit of the game to be just lavender, I had an essential meltdown in the pt with lord crimson on my commute home.

It's not fair to subject the thread to that, however.

[Knight Lavender]

In fairness, I still hold out hope that Daffy and Rainbow is SS but my hopes are fading with every passing second.

[Knight Lavender]

I see the thread is blowing up. Apologies, I am still at work for the next 3 hours or so.

Please wait for me. Thanks!

[Knight Lavender]

I'm phone posting but need to go back to work.

If you leave, I'll see you on the other side once we win, I suppose?

I agree with your Rose part of the solve, a non-zero part of me thinks it's daffy not rainbow due to the sheer oddity it would be for scum rainbow to have done the "missed my reads" stuff in the neighborhood, but I guess that's possibly just a planned act?

Either way, it's just not crimson, so it's a win, right?

Gods this is such a stress ball.

[Knight Lavender]

Okay, I'm current. Seems like everyone else peaced out though.

[Knight Lavender]

I'm absolutely convinced now. Rose and one but not both of Rainbow-Daffy :/

My reads this game were middle of the pack at best, unfortunately.

Always room to improve though!

[Knight Lavender]

Take us home, to where we belong, indigo.

[Knight Lavender]

My heart is so overtaxed.

This is just as scary as it was for those that were in the vampire werewolf etc one.

[Knight Lavender]

Please wait for me. Thanks!

This post exists.

Goodnight.

[Knight Lavender]

Well, that, and if it's me, then I decided to stop Indigo from leaving the other evening for no reason than to deny myself the instant win.

I'm posting from my phone at work, sorry if I cannot maintain a high post rate now.

[Knight Lavender]

You really only need to town read Crimson for this to be over, no?

1: You were threatening to leave and in fact, expressed in the thread that your leave was imminent:

In fairness, I still hold out hope that Daffy and Rainbow is SS but my hopes are fading with every passing second.

This post reads townie to me.

So, I think we’ve solved the game:

Beige/Rose/Rainbow

So I can now exit happily.

2: I made a post telling you to not do that shortly after my first post expressing that I was here and needed time to catch up:

I'm phone posting but need to go back to work.

If you leave, I'll see you on the other side once we win, I suppose?

I agree with your Rose part of the solve, a non-zero part of me thinks it's daffy not rainbow due to the sheer oddity it would be for scum rainbow to have done the "missed my reads" stuff in the neighborhood, but I guess that's possibly just a planned act?

Either way, it's just not crimson, so it's a win, right?

Gods this is such a stress ball.

3. Per the setup rules, there is exactly one S-T pair and one T-T pair left.

4. If I am scum, I simply don't enter the thread and let you walk out since you were headed that way on your own. Since in that universe, you-rose are the T-T pair, I win immediately, alongside rainbow who doesn't even die at that point since the game is over.

[Knight Lavender]

P.S. Yes, I town read crimson. From page, like, 3 or so, and to this point in time.

P.S.S. Your "TMI" thing was actually me continuing the flirtatious language thing, which is what makes Lord Crimson and I such a dreamy couple.

[Knight Lavender]

Is it possible Lavender tmi’d Crimson town with this

and Beige hard shaded Crimson to distract from that?

I certainly didn't read your statement that way. This reads like you're stating I had TMI about lord Crimson's alignment?

[Knight Lavender]

she made it a point to try to paranoia me on my brief paranoia on Crimson

Meaning, trying to encourage you to try to convince ME crimson is the last scum?

[Knight Lavender]

I'm fully sure it's NOT Crimson. Like, willing to eat a crow pie with extra crow-dung topping, sure.

I mean, milord and I are fully convinced here.

Our solve remains Beige/Rainbow/Rose, and that means we have to work to help you see what the two of us feel is now evident.

[Knight Lavender]

I believe lord crimson has some irl issues to address and will not be here this evening. Regardless, I believe both of us have been fairly clear.

Good night for those of you who sleep around this time. Myself included.

[Knight Lavender]

I have redactions. Well met, all. I wish it to be known that the mod refused my request of flavoring converting lord crimson to the dark side for unholy matrimony.

[Knight Lavender]

No redactions, rather.

[Knight Lavender]

Lord crimson, I still love you. Come back to me dearest. I will reforge you stronger yet.

[Knight Lavender]

It's extremely obvious but by all means.

[Knight Lavender]

I am most definitely not LLD. I did channel her from time to time to help mask myself, though.

[Knight Lavender]

i mean who else would speech to text the entire commute home sheesh

I mean yeah seriously.

[Knight Lavender]

How scary was my heat map?

Mmm, probably about a five or six out of ten. It posed an issue but had plenty of ways to skirt around it.