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I like this ideaIn post 1455, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Like think about it.
We have a confirmed town that is unkillable.
We have someone who literally cannot be killed.
We have a claimed doctor.
We have a claimed delayer.
If we all use our abilities we are forcing the last scum to make a decision to whether they should 1) skip killing in order to avoid confirming players 2) gamble a kill to kill un-mislimable town while risking confirming someone.
As long as mafia keep skipping kills in fear of confirming others we the town gain initiative.
Delayer might be more powerful than Roleblocker in this situation because there’s always going to be some baseline of certainty and we can speculate from there. I can’t really put together my exact logic atm but there’s a thought process here<Embrace The Void>
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I feel like in my experience leaving the guidelines too vague results in misplay
Even in an instance where actions were planned out to the exact letter I have managed to act in a way that “wasn’t up to code” and got elimmed for it
So imo any failures in clarity should be expurgated<Embrace The Void>
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DO NOTIn post 1469, StrangeMatter wrote:I really want Norwee to target Yukari, but I'm also just questioning, does this role's ability work on NKs?<Embrace The Void>
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why did you wait so long to disclose this? I asked you about this D1 (although it's understandable if you didn't get it as I was writing in rhyme then)In post 1532, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Don't worry about Final 3. If I'm there, it won't be an issue. I can choose to give up my immortality and effectively vanilize myself for a vote.In post 1529, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Like if LLD is town and we reach F3 (with 2 votes available) scum can just force no elim.
If LLD is scum no remaining town will try to force no elim.
So as long as my vote reads with a star each day, there's no reason to kill me. If you clear me as confirmed town, I'll keep myself unkillable until my vote is needed.<Embrace The Void>
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I don't agree. I can't substantiate why yet, but I will fight tooth and nail to allow this day phase to run as long as possible until I can explain it properly.In post 1548, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Their claim that they actually can vote kinda shattered my belief in their role not being possible for scum to have.In post 1547, Gamma Emerald wrote:my gut says it's LLD here and I kinda wanna have a perfect game if I can<Embrace The Void>
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I had that thought myself, I kinda binned it as Kilga running with a townie's thought process but maybe with a new perspective I'll see it differentlyIn post 1574, StrangeMatter wrote:I looked through LLD, Kilga, and Kake's posts and it really makes me wonder if LLD could've been scum setting up for Kilga as their partner to suggest that godfather exists.<Embrace The Void>
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My mindset will eventually demonstrate that I'm town beyond a shadow of a doubt. Hopefully it's today but there's also the possibility that it happens tomorrow.In post 1585, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
You're not dying today, so hush.In post 1583, Gamma Emerald wrote:I dislike how emphatic LLD seems to be about killing me here.
If your claim can prove you mechanically confirmed town, then go for it.
But no amount of "obvtowning" will put you OR ME outside the PoE. Only mech clears now, because we have so many.<Embrace The Void>
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Cakez died last night, it's me, you, Reg, Yukari, norwee, sanae, and SM alive todayIn post 1591, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It says 7 on the vote count, but... I thought...
with Reg makes 8?<Embrace The Void>
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I'm having trouble grokking Niamh's mechsolve as a scum Ludwig Gambit, and some things about Niamh's posting rn ping town. Meanwhile Sanae is MIA at a critical moment, which feels maybe like trying to wait out the storm.<Embrace The Void>
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Idk if Ascetic makes sense as scum with what Kilga flipped. Plus if we’re worried we can make LLD remove her immortality as presumably if this Ascetic Scum theory is correct it would remove that instead.<Embrace The Void>
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There’s only this atm but more are to comeIn post 1609, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Ok let's try this way then.
I'm going to lay out a statement one by one.
Tell me if you agree or disagree. If you disagree, tell me why.
Ready?
"StrangeMatter and RegRider are both confirmed town."<Embrace The Void>
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YesIn post 1640, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Accepted Statement(s):
1. StrangeMatter and RegRider are confirmed town.
Next statement:
With 1 scum left, 2 confirmed towns who cannot be killed means town auto-win.<Embrace The Void>
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No. Luke clarified there was some quirk to his role that made him hiding behind LLD indefinitely impossible.In post 1652, Yukari Yakumo wrote:Accepted Statement(s):
1. StrangeMatter and RegRider are confirmed town.
2. With 1 scum left, 2 confirmed towns who cannot be killed means town auto-win.
Next statement:
StrangeMatter cannot be killed while LLD is alive.<Embrace The Void>
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With this plan I think entropy might start to seep inIn post 1656, Sanae wrote:doesn't it make more sense for Luke to hide indefinitely behind Norwegian Boy while you protect Norwegian Boy?
But I’ll let others respond before passing a solid call on it<Embrace The Void>
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Hm. New idea regarding the mech plan. In the pool of me/LLD/Sanae, we elim one, have Norwegian delay another, and SM hides behind the remaining one. That should solve the game by tomorrow at the earliest.<Embrace The Void>
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I’m trying to think of how the interaction of SM targeting someone targeting an ascetic would work
The first question is “does unwnd count a roleblocked action as showing up to a tracker?”
The only unwnd modded game I can immediately recall is Yggdrasil, and idk if anyone else here was in that<Embrace The Void>
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See these moments used to be inexplicable but within the past couple weeks I’ve come to regard them as an outward sign of my dissociation (for more info, see my GTKAS probably, I’m working on a super in-depth dive into my mental health across my life as a whole but it will probably be some time before I get it in a state where I’m ready to post it)<Embrace The Void>
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