Mini 2284: The Thing Anonymous [The End?]

[Garry~]

1) MacReady is the platonic ideal of a husband.

2) I dislike 28 because I don’t think it says much of anything for calling tbh “interesting”. I don’t get the sense Clark cared much for the question he asked.

VOTE: Clark

[Garry~]

Assuming that that took some time Lars and I probably came to the same conclusion at the same time. Town for the day.

[Garry~]

FMPOV that feels like an arbitrary choice. Please explain?

[Garry~]

what do you want me to explain?

The link between Clark town -> Garry mafia? I thought that would be apparent, sorry.
Is it just that everyone else engaging with that wagon is town or is there something else?

[Garry~]

1) MacReady is the platonic ideal of a husband.

2) I dislike 28 because I don’t think it says much of anything for calling tbh “interesting”. I don’t get the sense Clark cared much for the question he asked.

VOTE: Clark

I very explicitly did not "call tbh interesting" in that post, not sure how that was your takeaway when I talked about Palmer's case having a basis in the site meta.

Ah, we're getting serious?

I like Lars' and MacReady's intros, probably for bad reasons. And I think Copper's is slightly more likely to come from a Thing.

I have a confession to make, I have never seen the thing movie. I just wanted to play an anon game.

Me too TBH.
VOTE: Bennings

This? What sticks out to you as Thing-like?

Yeah, that. It's a vibe. The TBH seems self-conscious, the post itself is short and seems to be made for the sake of making it and fitting in, and the vote on a person that hasn't posted yet vibes like he doesn't want to start ruffling feathers yet.

I see. Something I've noticed recently is that people seem to find "tbh" as scummy, with one reason being that it comes off as soft and half-hearted agreement in order to avoid conflict. At least, that's one reason that's stuck out to me.

It's interesting that you see Copper's post as a whole that way, rather than just the "tbh" part.

VOTE: Copper

I'll vote here with you for now.

PE:

Abbreviations are something of a mild verbal (textual?) tic for me.

Understandable, I suppose, I have tics of my own. What do you think of Palmer's vote and reason for voting you? Thoughts on mine are welcome as well.

This is what I am referring to.

[Garry~]

I don't think I've said anything about Clark town -> Garry Mafia

I said if Clark is Mafia then Garry is probably Town

And this is the part where I sigh. So you did and I have an inability to read things in the proper order.

[Garry~]

MacReady can be town today.

[Garry~]

I’m going to be frank, the issue is more specific to you calling something interesting than it is the subject itself and I made that apparent, I believe, in my post. What’s interesting about it and more importantly does it have any bearing on alignment? Without including the latter the post rings hollow and disinterested, like you’re going through the motions.

[Garry~]

Is this a serious wagon or are y'all trying to get an early claim here?

Why wouldn’t it be serious.

[Garry~]

Do I really need to say that I think complex reads are townie...?

PE: An E-2 wagon on page 3 is usually a meme. I'm baffled that people could misinterpret my post that badly.

You didn’t communicate any of the first sentence in your post. I also don’t think it was a complex read either, but that’s more subjective. So yes, you do need to make your thoughts apparent.

And again, you’re baffled. But what do you actually think of the people engaging with it. You feel... cautious, I suppose, of saying much about it.

[Garry~]

Is this a serious wagon or are y'all trying to get an early claim here?

Translation: "why me dude?"

Typically I'd prefer if people just ask me to clarify my thoughts, some stuff is just going to seem obvious to me.

I'll have thoughts on players when they have content. Sorry but I'm not going to have five reads just like that.

Can you clarify your thoughts on anyone voting you right now?

[Garry~]

Doubtful I am that my vote will move in the meantime.

[Garry~]

2) I dislike 28 because I don’t think it says much of anything for calling tbh “interesting”. I don’t get the sense Clark cared much for the question he asked.

disagree, i very much like Clark as of right now. The questions theyre asking seem very newbish by nature, more like they care about seeing thought processes more than anything.
I don't expect them to really go anywhere with it, if they do ill be surprised.
Maybe im just a softie but i tr the newbie playstyle.

May I interest you in a windows vote instead?

I think his reaction after being wagoned was poor. It felt like the sort of reply you make promising stuff later while you’re secretly hoping the wagon disperses. And in the context of it being early game I believe that that’s a slightly better play than it is down the line.

As such, I don’t really want to move my vote until Clark provides... anything that I townread. Rather than promises.

And as it is Windows’ one post made no impression either way on me.

[Garry~]

I did not like Clark's 53 and 58

More so then anything else that has happened in this game, but not really ready to move any wagon to E-1.

So, he is in my scum pile but not actually going to vote there atm.

... this feels scummy-townish behavior.

[Garry~]

I did not like Clark's 53 and 58

More so then anything else that has happened in this game, but not really ready to move any wagon to E-1.

So, he is in my scum pile but not actually going to vote there atm.

... this feels scummy-townish behavior.

Agreed.

VOTE: Fuchs

You’re disagreeing with me.

[Garry~]

I think it is fundamentally scummy to do but I have to question the intents of posting something that... hollow as scum. Unless they were unaware that it would come across as such. It’s one of those too scummy to be scum deals.

[Garry~]

Actually, yeah, it kind of sucks without anything else following it.

[Garry~]

I did not like Clark's 53 and 58

More so then anything else that has happened in this game, but not really ready to move any wagon to E-1.

So, he is in my scum pile but not actually going to vote there atm.

Who else is in your scum pile/what is the anything else that you disliked?

[Garry~]

Copper is a soft scumlean.

[Garry~]

I only have one vote to punish wolfy play, I wish I had more.

[Garry~]

MacReady, Windows, Fuchs
Blair, Bennings, Palmer
Copper, Nauls, Childs, Norris
Clark, Lars

Somewhere around here. I’m having issues processing this game because of the familiar profile pictures and my inability to distinguish men.
I feel weird about Lars the last few pages (not condemning for a bottom tier read I know, can’t write paragraphs currently, Clark is MIA after yesterday’s exit and I still think he could be trying to wait out the pressure. Nauls I think I need more from to get to a townread, a lot seemed catchupy. Childs was... not great on a quick read but this one is prone to change depending on deeper looks into. Norris shouldn’t be rewarded for their play, defiance and anger can be easy to fake. (Side note though it’s also easy to look good from condemning it, Lars r.e Norris was meh. Childs arguably worse iirc.) Considered having a null Copper tier because I think they’re likelyish to be town but still dwelling.

Edit: Timing!

[Garry~]

I’ll allow you space to catch up Clark, but when you have the time please give us more depth?

[Garry~]

Finish reading first, and then circle back to trying to explain your townreads?

[Garry~]

Spoiler:

I actually misread the tbh part and misinterpreted what Clark said regarding it, but I’m too proud to admit that in the moment usually. I was focused on the core of it though being lack of actual solving in lieu of “interesting”.

[Garry~]

Hello Garry 2.0

hi!

Clark is more likely town.

Elaborate

+1

[Garry~]

I still think it's Norris and that Clark is more likely town.

Explain the Norris Sr also.

[Garry~]

Garry, will you be catching up?

At this point Clarke is by far my favorite wagon. The first incarnation if the slot was very scummy, and the second is not trying to solve the game at all

I will.
I might iso a few people but my current SRs from my skimthrough is Clark and Cooper.

[Garry~]

I don't think Clark is scum. Off-the-hip gut read.

Looking back at your iso, the last time you said anything about clark's alignment was this back on page 4

Clark is kinda null for me, that's why, Norris is just scummier.

what about norris do you think is scummy?

[Garry~]

I don't think Clark is scum. Off-the-hip gut read.

Looking back at your iso, the last time you said anything about clark's alignment was this back on page 4

Clark is kinda null for me, that's why, Norris is just scummier.

what about norris do you think is scummy?

I explained it already, the trolling is just ridiculously scummy and not like town having fun. Also he's barely solving if at all, if he actually tried then I'd have looked past the trolling.

I see
rereading their iso, I don't like how they were interested in a windows vote when it feels like windows isn't that scummy; more jokey imo

[Garry~]

Copper seems better now so moving to null.

[Garry~]

I don't really like the plan of childs.
As said by Mac, novice vig doesn't imply town!Clark.

[Garry~]

I don't really like the plan of childs.
As said by Mac, novice vig doesn't imply town!Clark.

Yes it does, because Jailkeeper and Vigilante are meant to be paired together.

And, let me drop this bombshell:

WHAT MAKES CLARK LOOK LIKE SCUM TO YOU?

Serious question.

Would it be a lack of content?
Would it be the content being posted being scummy?
Both?
The claim into the above? The above into claim?
All valid, but follow along with me, here, that is important.

Personally, I feel like Clark hasn't contributed much and for similar reasons to my predecessor.
I also feel like jk is a claim that can be faked easily.

[Garry~]

I think that you might be right.
I'm starting to feel like Copper is improving in my reads.

[Garry~]

I'm slightly tring palmer for latest posts.
It feels genuine and they seem to be trying to solve.

[Garry~]

I'm a 1-shot Cop, and I have a guilty.

VOTE: Windows

For anyone wondering, that is partly why I was playing kind of quietly on Day 1. I didn't wanna risk being widely townread and getting assimilated.

Sure.
VOTE: Windows
I'm trusting you.

[Garry~]

Not gonna hero vig when we have only one scum left in the game.

this is based of palmer's guilty, right?
because there's still two rn out there.
assimilation doesn't decrease number of scum

[Garry~]

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This is actually killing me.

Day 1, Childs use this emoji 6 times in the entirety of the day. Which was definitely enough for it to be noticeable as something that Childs does use

But then today, Childs has used it 12 times in the last 30 mins. Which, given the discrepancy in frequency, feels more like a purposeful imitation of someone who felt like "Childs uses " was a fundamental aspect of pretending to be them

you could be right on childs but i don't think that it leads to palmer/childs being things.
maybe i'm misreading or i'm pocketed by palmer, but i'm more towards believing palmer.

[Garry~]

And then immediately trusting the Palmer result,

I reread during n1 and my palmer read strengthened.
And I wasn't implying a Windows/childs team. I was saying that if

and

only if I was wrong on palmer, then maybe your idea of childs being scum could be true.
Anyways, I was sick yesterday.

[Garry~]

I do want to hear Bennings' take on all of this

me too!
they haven't said much memorable things imo.

[Garry~]

I'm more interested in a claim from him, personally. My only worry, I guess, is that this feels too easy...

Garry, did you have any other conclusions after your N1 reread?

I think that mcready can be Town.
I didn't tr Norris then but since you say Windows is scum, I feel like Fuchs can be right.

[Garry~]

So bennings was not a thing then?
I'm leaning towards thinking that Norris was the nk.