162 Kill Bill Mafia GAME OVER

[halo freak]

only one death. i would expect two, possibly a lucky doc?

[halo freak]

Random Vote rajrhcpfreak

for copying part of my name, and the other part not making sense

[halo freak]

does that protection you have cover lynchs as well as night kills

[halo freak]

and then what are the scum meant to do night kill him?

[halo freak]

and ok it doesn't matter just nobody try and lynch him

[halo freak]

Unvote rajrhcpfreak

random voting is over

[halo freak]

man i really should have watched to movie before signing up, i have searched for it and got some info that way but i think watching the movie would help alot more than reading a review. So i can't really say much about all the possible roles.

[halo freak]

I'm automatically suspicious of people who claim to be unkillable, as it's sometimes an attempt to just ward the killing groups off of them.

we know all about that and your 'i am a doc that can self protect' claim

[halo freak]

as brian know people claiming to have self protection are far from clear in my book.
But i would like to point out the bit were i ask if he is lynch proof as well and leonidas votes me because he doesn't think that info should be known to the mafia. And then freak (your new name since i can't spell or pronounce the first bit (you can call me halo)) answers my question without question. Somehting about that doesn't sit right with me. I don't know wether to fos leonidas or freak but i just think that leons attack was a bit rash because the really important info that the mafia want is that he can't be nights killed because then they know not to target him. Wether he is lynch proof is not that big a deal because the mafia would still have to convince the town to vote for him just like they have to convice (or try to) the town to vote for anyone else.

Vote Leonidas

That reaction was kind of scummy.
But i will still be an eye on freak because i plain don't trust self protects (or similar)

[halo freak]

Leonidas that was very scummy were you just told everyone to follow you on this bandwagon. You have to show your points (which you have) just telling everyone to vote with you is not much help at all. my vote stays.

Why should bill even be good? if freak is lying then he would any need to change what his role does not who he is. In a game like this he can keep the name because he knows no one else has it and modify the powers a bit.

What kind of spin would bill being evil put on the game?

i will not be voting freak because i think the risk of losing such a powerful player is too great to lynch him, at least not day 1.

[halo freak]

Can we have a vote count please.

[halo freak]

can we have a

vote count please

[halo freak]

i don't know that lynching brian would be such a good thing, most of the reasoning behind it is the vote for raj and you are saying raj is town. But i am not completly conviced that he is town.

raj you say that you are nightkill proof as long as they are alive but what happens when they are dead? is there a second killing group, and for your claim to be true there would have to be so why was there only one kill last night. Doc got lucky perhaps or maybe as a killing group targeted you?

i think either:
1.you are lying about everything,
2.you have more to reveal about your role
3.or there is a second killing group and you are telling the truth.

But i would sway towards one of the first two.

I don't want to seem all defensive of brian but things don't sit right and i think raj has some explaining to do.

Unvote Leonidas

for now and it will stay as a fos leonidas for a while.

[halo freak]

Vote Brian

I am couter claiming. I am budd - good male. I am the cop not you.

Would you like me to reveal who i investigated?

[halo freak]

i don't really want to quote the mod but it mentions me being the bouncer. I don't how a bouncer could be a cop (more likely a vig) but i guess the bouncer fights people who cause trouble and gets to know the faces who regularly cause it and the people who come for a good time and not a fight. Kind of like a cop finds those who want to start some fights.

[halo freak]

olio i got innocent but i will wait a bit before revealing who.
I hope i don't have sanity issuses, but if i do i would have to be either insane (which is really just as useful if the town is willing to believe me) or naive.

[halo freak]

Astro:
the mafia don't want the town to have any confirmed innocents because it makes things harder for them and by killing the innocent they make the investigation unless.

[halo freak]

also about brians suggestion that we both investigste the same person and then give our results. Firstly for this to happen we would both have to say who we are going to investigate and then the mafia will just kill that person (provided that neither of us is mafia)
or i guess brian could be mafia and this could be an attempt to get me to waste an investigation.
Secondly how are you meant to reveal our investigations at the same time? if brian is lying he could just copy my result. But overall i think that it would be a bad strategy for the town.

[halo freak]

electra yes that is another problem with it and i don't think it would work anyway.

[halo freak]

shall i reveal my two results

[halo freak]

one guilty

[halo freak]

so that means if i am insane and getting opposite results then i still have a confirmed scum. Provided you will belive me tomorrow. But i think we should at least lynch the person i found guilty and see what the result is, after all if i am insane i am just as useful to the town as a normal cop.

[halo freak]

Innocent = Fuldu
Guilty = Leonidas

Claim

[halo freak]

fine fuldu claim

[halo freak]

Vote Fuldu

Do you really think the game is so broken. You are working on your own so how do you know if you have no info.
However if fuldu is who he says he is would it be worth it to follow his advice and have a mass claim. I really hope the game isn't as broken as he suggests because that would really suck. I think warpdragon might have a trick up his sleve but time will tell for now we should lynch him and talk this over more in the morning.
He says that i am insane so it least now with him dead i will not have the very difficult task of convincing everyone that i am.
I feel sad now so finish off this day and discuss more in the morning

[halo freak]

that is a lynch can the doc protect me please unless they think someone else requires it more than me. I will reveal my result in the morning and go from there

[halo freak]

ok i investigated roland of the white last night i got he is bad. Which means roland is in the clear.
Shame leonidas died he would have been clear as well, i suppose that is why he died.

So where do we go from here? we have me and roland who are cleared, 6 other we don't know about. I have kind of lost the feel of this game, i have forgotten who i thought was more scummy.

[halo freak]

just had a quick look over and i know that this is not strictly factual but who rekons that LML has a night choice because of the timing of rajhrpcfreaks replacement?
rajhrpcfreak didn't mention having one just that he can't be night killed until 4 people are dead.
Note he mentioned that one of the possible 4 that had to die was budd (me) and he said that the 4 might be mafia, which could mean that he is lying about that, but i cant understand how that might work.

Just a thought.

[halo freak]

why him?

[halo freak]

why him?

[halo freak]

maybe each mafia member has their own individual method and they chose someone different to kill, but i do agree that an explosion is strange. What would have causes such a small explosion, one of those over the shoulder rocket lunchers would blow someone to the moon not just a hole in them. A shot gun at point-blank range might be able to do something like that but there was no mention of bullets. Know anyone who used or might use a shot gun?
If we determin the weapon then we might be able to guess at the killer more acuaratly.

[halo freak]

why vote HimIn?

[halo freak]

but you had no reason to vote for him in the first place, and i still want a good reason or an unvote from the rest of the people voting him.

[halo freak]

i am happy with the mass claim doesn't really effect me as i am already out. Fuldu seemed pretty sure the neongrey was scummy so i think i will

Vote Neongrey

Lets wait for more claims before we lynch anyone though.

[halo freak]

Er, why don't we just leave both of them alive and let halofreak check tonight?

Because one will die so i would be wasting an investigation but leaving is not such a bad idea, if someone dies then we lynch the other.

But now we have another problem. What if the mafia chose not to kill the doc because it means they lose someone the next day.

But here a another layer of complexity, what if there are two mafia families. One of them is bound to kill the doc because
1. it helps thems with further night kills
2. It means that the rival mafia group loses a member
3. It keeps the lynch away from them for a day

This needs thought but i don't want to give away who i will be investigating.

[halo freak]

Er, why don't we just leave both of them alive and let halofreak check tonight?

Because one will die so i would be wasting an investigation but leaving is not such a bad idea, if someone dies then we lynch the other.

But now we have another problem. What if the mafia chose not to kill the doc because it means they lose someone the next day.

But here a another layer of complexity, what if there are two mafia families. One of them is bound to kill the doc because
1. it helps thems with further night kills
2. It means that the rival mafia group loses a member
3. It keeps the lynch away from them for a day

This needs thought but i don't want to give away who i will be investigating.

[halo freak]

Er, why don't we just leave both of them alive and let halofreak check tonight?

Because one will die so i would be wasting an investigation but leaving is not such a bad idea, if someone dies then we lynch the other.

But now we have another problem. What if the mafia chose not to kill the doc because it means they lose someone the next day.

But here a another layer of complexity, what if there are two mafia families. One of them is bound to kill the doc because
1. it helps thems with further night kills
2. It means that the rival mafia group loses a member
3. It keeps the lynch away from them for a day

This needs thought but i don't want to give away who i will be investigating.

[halo freak]

i guess i am just over working things. So ok lets hear himIn claim and see if ti is really as simple as you say it is

[halo freak]

ok electra go
olio you can claim after electra.

[halo freak]

o opps sorry disregard.

Who after electra? astronaut.

[halo freak]

man i am confused. So either olio or electra is scum how many other evil do you think there is?

Alot of fingers have been pointed at inhim so i think i will investigate him tonight.
And who are we going to lynch today or would it benifit the town to no lynch?

[halo freak]

ok

Vote Olio

i really am confused

[halo freak]

ok

Unvote Olio

Good point leting him live will not harm us, but the reason for the lynch is it is better to kill a non-town than trying to kill an anti-town and getting a pro-town instead. He can remain a back up lynch if we can't find scum.
Roland claim.

[halo freak]

oh just to let everyone know i am going to a camp at 6.00pm tonight and wouldn't be back till 5.00pm Sunday.
And also my email has stopped working so i am no longer receiving notifications.

[halo freak]

my investigation may be random but i hope they are insane. But they seem to have been acturate so far.
As for roland, one of the possible ways of blowing a hole in someone that i mentioned was a shotgun at point blank range, roland mentioned that he has a shotgun.
But karen wong could be good because she spared bill but does that mean that bill is bad or are they both innocent. I would think that if they are against each other in the movie them they would be here too but the show of mercy puts a certain spin on things.

[halo freak]

As to my investigation results i get whoever is good/bad.
I certainly think a shotgun would be easily up to the task of blowing a hole in someone. And some of the points raised about karen wong would seem to say that she is a good candidate for mafia in a game like this.

p.s the camp was class and i had a lot of fun.

[halo freak]

if i hadn't investigated you i would vote for you in a heartbeat. What do you mean you forgot? Sounds very scummy. But if he is lying then what is my sanity?
So i am at a cross roads, if i vote the most scummy player then it might be contradicting my result (might because i did get bad but i think i am insane so i changed it to good)
So i think i will let everyone else make the decision on who to lynch.

[halo freak]

how do we know that when you fulfil your win condition you don't get an extra power like a kill or night imunity?

How about we kill you because you did that thing to get you win condition and tonight roland kills either electra or astronaut (i would prefer astronaut)
Then if astronaut is scum we lynch electra
or there is no kill with a shotgun or hole in the side of someone then we lynch roland.
Also in the morning i will have more results for us to have a look over and decide my sanity.

[halo freak]

Vote Olio

[halo freak]

is that a lynch?
Roland we want you to kill astronaut tonight using the same blowing a hole in someone method, if there is no kill you are dead meat.
Neongrey might be a good lynch candidate for tomorrow but i will have more info when i get results.

[halo freak]

mm sorry i need to take more care my fault.

[halo freak]

wait warpdragon you sent my roland is bad that is why i cleared him.

Good game everyone that was god fun.

[halo freak]

i think the thing that saved us the way even one believed that i was in sane i could very easily have gotten lynch for providing false info. What made everyone believe me?