It was a gorilla, IIRC.RobCapone wrote:Idk but I heard someone saw a tigerDarox wrote:So hey.
Who took the cookie from the cookie jar?
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VOTE: RobCapone
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark:Stigmata wrote:vote Elleran
I don't think sarcasm is the word you are looking for. Why did you vote him?dictionary.com wrote: sarcasm
noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
On a scale of 1-10 (10 being really strongly): how strongly do you believe this actually happened?Llamarble wrote:The two of them may have planned having a silly argument and claiming getoutofrvs towncred during scum pregame talk.
Maybe I'm dumb, but what does this mean?PoisonIvy wrote:- WRONG!!! Shotsick was ACTUALLY the first person voted under the exact same statement.Elleran wrote:VOTE: drmyshottyizsik for trying to start a "wagon".
Again, what do you mean by taking the bait? Also, explain what you define as a VI. (Let alone whatever a "serial VI" is.)PoisonIvy wrote:We either have mafia or a serial VI who cant read to see that shotsick was voted first and voted him for trying to start a "wagon". Even under the use of sarcasm, a "wagon" is what i would use if someone was attempting to start a wagon, but no one was taking the bait.
Ok cool. My mind utterly rejected it as wild speculation and if you'd gone above a 3 I'd really worry about you.Llamarble (53) wrote:Uh, maybe 2?
I wouldn't have mentioned it if I found it inconceivable, but certainly less than 15% likely.
Early in the game, when there's practically nothing to go off of, cases are necessarily reachy.
Then as more content appears I am able to get better developed reads.
Overstating early cases tends to make them more effective at getting us to somewhere useful.
Have you made a serious game-related comment yet?Darox (57) wrote:It's done by sniping the first post of the new page and doing a regular vote count. Nothing fancy to it.
So let me get your story straight. You random voted drmyshottyizsik and gave a joking reason that made no sense in order to provoke a reaction. drmyshottyizsik reacted. You declared it an overreaction and serious voted. You vow to keep your vote on him until you see a reason to move it. drmyshottyizsik says that the argument moved the game out of rvs. You respond by saying you're convinced of his innocence, yet you didn't unvote him.Elleran wrote:Why? For two reasons.Kublai Khan wrote:@Elleran: Re: post 22 -- Why did you sarcastically accuse drmyshottyizsik of starting a wagon? He was the first and only to vote for andrew94 so far. Plus Darox had 2 votes at the time...
First reason: As an random vote.
Second reason: To get any reaction from the random player that I have chosen to randomly vote by providing an intentionally random reason.
Most games I've played end their RVS ice breaking stuff with someone making a more serious vote based on someone else's "random" vote. Plus no vote is ever truly 100% random. If you choose not to vote, then you are shielding information about yourself to the rest of the players.Darox wrote:Why do I have to put down a meaningless vote that I will remove as soon as I see something genuinely voteworthy?
Huh. If only you had a way to coax people into doing something interesting. Like some game mechanic that pushes them closer to being knocked out of the game.Darox wrote:I prefer doing something interesting like fakeclaiming PGO as doctor instead of random voting.
Sadly, I am not always a doctor.
Plus none of you have anything interesting about you to make you stand out.
Alright. I get what you're saying. I disagree and think you're cutting him too much slack, but I understand your position better.lewarcher82 wrote:Not very scummy, actually, so I am not committing myself this early in game. But I am pretty convinced that Elleran is a VI and not scum.
How the hell is a summary of Elleran's play an attack on him?andrew94 wrote:let me get this straight. you seem to be attacking elleran , yet you sheep the person before you and vote for darox
WTF? Darox isn't giving you any scummy vibes at all?lewarcher82 wrote:I guess I have used the label VI too soon in this game, or I was wrong assuming there was just one.
So you're going ahead with a two person lynch plan because of an impression?Furcolow wrote:vote: robcapone
my role pm gives me the impression that either rob or poisonivy is mafia
If my points are not in favor of Elleran, then that reflects on Elleran not me.andrew94 wrote:@kublai i said you seemed to be attacking elleran. your points are not in favour of elleran.
Yeah. I'm going to keep mum on it until RobCapone and PoisonIvy have a chance to weigh in. The WIFOM is going to be brutal on this one.lewarcher82 wrote:I am afraid I have the same theory Kublai has... seems sadly evident, actually.
That's the WIFOM of the neighbor role. It's possible to have an all-town neighbor group.Llamarble wrote:On the other hand, 50% is a lot better than our normal 25% chance of hitting scum,
Particularly since a miss today would guarantee a hit tomorrow if what fur says is true.
FakeGod said there would be no VI roles. You owe me 5 bucks.drmyshottyizsik wrote:darox is a jester, 5 bucks
Would his being at L-3 be ok? His wagon was just to pressure him to post more game relevent stuff. It worked (sorta).Zed wrote:The Darox wagon was ridiculous, in my opinion. There was no reason for him to go to to L-2,
You realize that it's entirely possible to have an all-town neighbor group, right?Furcolow wrote:i disagree that it is stupid play. i feel like the mod has given me a 50/50 lynch from my perspective based upon my role pm.
*facepalm*Furcolow wrote:I know my alignment, and by my behavior you all should have it indicated that I am pro-town at this point, even if my concept is above a lot of your heads and appears anti-town. If you knew my meta, you would realize I don't put in nearly this much effort when I am scum, and I am a blathering idiot. I don't know why this is, and even if you consider me an asshole as town, I am way worse as scum and this is not my scum meta.
What?dymyshottyizsik wrote:i'm about to eat my cookie
lewarcher82 wrote:mod: I wait for you to rule. Did furco break any rule? I do not see anything in the ruleset about quoting neighbour-talk
Okay.. So to clarify... The Girl's Club group is a trio of players (furcolow, PoisonIvy, & RobCapone) who are investigation immune. Plus all three have to agree on a target that they then get to investigate (role name) and roleblock them? Plus you possibly jailkeep them as well?Furcolow wrote:I'm starting to see how what I have tried to get going could be misinterpreted as something "scummy", but we could gain much-needed potential mislynches by quicklynching the other "girl's club" with me. I would be hit in the night by the last one, though, if we didn't hit scum today. You see, the girl's club gets a nametrack/roleblock we vote to get 1 person to use. It keeps people in a room, and we get their name (or at least one of us does). Possibly we all do, but from my reading it feels like we pick 1 person, and they get all the information. If we lynch scum in one of them, since I'd bet my fucking life poisonivy is the GodFather, it would keep them from getting this information in case all of us get the information from the one we pick (through the mod), and picking 1 is only just to see if they die (paranoid gun owner, anyone?).
Because when you brilliantly figure out who is who on Day 3 and announce it, nobody is going to believe you because you were scummy for active lurking the whole game.Darox wrote:Why do I need to comment on things in order to have thought them? Sometimes, it's better to watch without spouting your immediate conclusions.
A "long" post is nothing but filler. I am going to make my posts as long as I want, and I tend to be concise.
@PoisonIvy - Is this accurate?RobCapone wrote:Since I missed what was quoted from the QT and not sure what all I can say, furc was the one who suggested we should work together and ivy and I were talking before game started, furc happened to not want to share any information or really discuss options. he was just concered with making sure allignments were not known
Yes, I do. Your case on PoisonIvy is crap. And you switched your vote away from RobCapone (though you claimed to be more suspicious of him at the time you claimed) before RobCapone ever posted.Furcolow wrote:read my posts, word for word, then tell me if you still need to ask thatKublai Khan wrote:@furcolow:
First of all, please quit making personal attacks
Second, since you're basing a lot of your case on stuff PoisonIvy said in the QT (i.e. "godfather", "won't stick neck out") before the game started, why did you first vote for RobCapone when you started playing in game?
Too narrow thinking. There's all sorts of informative-type roles and corresponding ways to mislead them.lewarcher82 (244) wrote:1) There are two kind of cops. Role cops and alignment cops. Immunity to role cops and immunity to alignment cops are two different things.
So.. Are the scum's role names really scummy sounding? Did you guys learn each other's role names?RobCapone (246) wrote:All the neighbors get is the person's name and that person is essentially roleblocked
Is in a post that inclues an unvote for Elleran. I'm sorry, but it really, really doesn't sound like she's serious about lynching VIs. I realize that she hasn't been backing down from this, so it's a minor point in your favor. But then again her vote is currently on you and you're a "genius".PoisonIvy (iso4) wrote:Andrew94. You look like you're fishing asking lewarcher specifically for his view on me from my "nulltelling situation". Without giving any stance on it yourself! What pray tell was my nulltelling situation. And what i deduced, was obvious, Elleran is a VI or scum. Either one im content with ridding. Or was that not clear?
Well, I'm sure it wouldn't have made a difference. If their role namesRobCapone wrote:no we did not discuss names in the QT
QFTRobCapone wrote:this isn't going to fly much longer, get unbusy or replace outZed wrote:Just in to pick up my prod. My apologies, I had some unexpected things to take care of that doesn't leave me time to post tonight. I'll be here tomorrow, heopfully with plenty to say.
You've giving this lesson? Hilarious.Furcolow wrote:just because you say B is A, doesn't make it A
What better way to remove an investigative ability from the game? Out yourself, get one lynched, then night-kill the other one. You'll probably get lynched next, but the removal of a 2 pro-town half cops was swiftly accomplished.Furcolow wrote:WHY do you disagree with the last one? give EVIDENCE that is the caseRobCapone wrote:that last one I disagree withFurcolow wrote:a scum in the girl's club would want all the girl's club to remain alive so that they could hide
a scum in the girl's club would want to use the girl's club as a cover for their scum team
a scum in the girl's club would not have outted the girl's club, therefore
Looks absolutely solid. Good job. As loathe as I am to admit it, it looks like Furcolow was right (although for all the wrong reasons).lewarcher82 wrote:@everyone: comments? anyone cannot see the case I presented?
I thought about it and I think I know how it works flavor-wise, but I don't want to influence andrew94's answer.Darox wrote:Why would there be a blank cookie?
The premise of the game is that each person has a named cookie, which is why people have to leave if their specific cookie gets eaten. If there are blank cookies floating around it why would anyone get removed?
What's your progress so far? When can we expect you to be up to date?gzapsa wrote:UNVOTE
Still processing the posts and taking it all in...
But poison speaks sketchily, almost like a gesture
Good job. Deadline is Monday. By posting today you can totally stall until the lynch is decided on.Zed wrote:Checking in to say I'm reading catching up on the thread. I'll post tonight when I can get my thoughts together.
Yeah, that's my style. I don't tolerate slackers. Over half of your 8 posts mention that you'll read the game later. It's the very definition of active lurking.Zed wrote:Congrats, I find you annoying. I also said I was posting later on. I was on the bus going to school. How am I supposed to have three or more windows open, quote things, and give proper responses to things on a phone?
You are scum because this:drmyshottyizsik wrote:ya I've made three posts!! I'm obv scum! GO YOU!! No but REally KK, why am I scum exactly? Because I have reads on people you want to deffend? I just want to point out that a KK, Andrew, Lew scum team would make perfect senceKublai Khan wrote:Okay. drmyshottyizsik is scum. This game is getting too easy.
Makes absolutely no sense. If the scum got a example vanilla townie PM, then PoisonIvy would have known that "Cookie Scout" is in blue. She didn't know that, but the other neighbors confirmed that their PMs had blue.drmyshottyizsik wrote:lew in mini's the mod almost always sends the scum a pm with the name of the VT role, and sometimes the other. Also if you just deduced the colour thing, and you dont know 100% then why are you so eager to lynch someone because of it?
Llamarble wrote:Fascinating, and it looks like we got lucky that Kublai wasn't hiding in the woods N1.
Yeah, I was getting super townie vibes from lewarcher and I figured that scum were as well. Since I couldn't disappear two night sin a row, I figured i'd save it for the next night. In retrospect that was a bad strategy (not just because I died).Llamarble from scum QT wrote:But I think we should NK Kublai.
I saw no particular "I'm not a PR" tells from him and he seems pretty reasonable.
"Too narrow thinking. There's all sorts of informative-type roles and corresponding ways to mislead them."
Also sounds like a player who might have thought a bit extra about PRs because he is one.
I think you're a good mod FakeGod, but I feel this was the wrong move to make. Especially since a town player already saw the information and commented on it. It's unfortunate that furcolow broke a rule (though it wasn't listed as a rule at the time), but I feel that the appropriate action is to acknowledge the damage done and punish the player (modkill or forcereplace). As it was, you created a pocket "informed minority" of GC + lewarcher82 which really screwed with my readings in this game.Furcolow wrote:Edited out... -mod