Mini 1150 - There Goes the Neighborhood - Game Over

[Powerrox93]

VOTE: Nachomamma8 for old times.

[Powerrox93]

Nacho's claiming this early on? Since this games hasn't truly started yet, I'll believe the claim. But if he starts playing scummy, then the claim is not an pass for him being scummy.

@Everyone:

I'm V/LA April 8-9

[Powerrox93]

I wanna see kryptinen's answers to the questions before I comment his case

[Powerrox93]

Just got home from my V/LA so this will be a short post.

Oh yeah. I don't want to start the unraveling of a perfectly decent wagon.

Everyone have a good long look at this. How much more obvscum can you get rather than just admitting it? I don't see ANY pro-town reason for wagoning just for the sake of wagoning outside of the RVS, especially since you stated that you didn't think Krypt was scum.

Unvote, Vote: Jedo

When I think of it... WTF Jedo? Voting outside the RVS for someone you don't think is scum only for the sake of wagoning? As Doombunny9 said, that couldn't be any scummier.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jedo

[Powerrox93]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nobody Special

The reason for you voting for DoomBunny is bad bad bad.

[Powerrox93]

To people with him as a QT partner. Did he realise the game was in progress?

With the little posts fuzzy and I made, I would say yes. However, IDK where he's gone now, we haven't heard anything V/LA related.

[Powerrox93]

Since when is a survivor claim a pass?

Since never, and if I made it sound as it was once a free pass, that's not wasn't the intention.

In other news, I need time to analyze everything that's going on in the game ATM

[Powerrox93]

I don't want you to analyze everything, because you'll overwhelm yourself and end up doing nothing. I want you to analyze what you feel needs analyzing, and I want you to push someone as scum. That's all.

*Self face-fish-slap*

Why am I always formulating my post somewhat wrongly?!

What I meant is that I wanted to take an extra look at things I might have overlooked in the game.

And RL has kept and will keep me busy for the rest of this day. More content tomorrow.

[Powerrox93]

@Nacho: You're calling me lurker? Yes you announced V/LA until the 9th of April but when did your next post come after that? Four days later! And your calling me a lurker? Nice contradiction there

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nacho

[Powerrox93]

@krypt:

Nobody Special

In ISO 3 and 4, he's doing a pretty huge overreaction deal about that he didn't announce that his vote in ISO 2 put Krypt a L-1

Twistedspoon

His behavior seems a bit to... how should I say it... random in order to be town behavior.

[Powerrox93]

Why do you consider that more likely from scum than from town?

Because I think that scum, with more on the line then town, would easier react to stuff that's bad for'em.

@Twistedspoon: Any reason you complaining about me missing arguments but you holding back one yourself?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Twistedspoon

[Powerrox93]

@Me voting nacho earlier: That vote was done in anger... That'd all I can give you on that.

I don't have have any more arguments on NS

But for TS, in ISO 19 he asks me for more reasons but in his next post he holds back an argument for something similar himself

[Powerrox93]

Claim watcher that couldn't do anything N0

[Powerrox93]

1.

No-one

could do anything N0, so I don't know why he mentioned it.

Ehh...

E5) Because this game is based heavily on quicktopics, there will be a 48 hour N0. The purpose for this time will be to use the quicktopics. No other powers/kills will be allowed on N0

(unless the role specifically says otherwise)

.

The italicized part of the rule shows that there

might

be a role in this game that could do things N0. However I couldn't

[Powerrox93]

Can people please move their votes to the Quaroath bandwagon? Just a reminder:

• He made a big post in an attempt to appear helpful without actually contributing hardly anything new.
  
• He has coasted through the game just like Powerrox has.
  
• His vote for Powerrox...
  • -Was piggybacking off of Nachomamma's vote.
    -Was because he hadn't contributed much when he hadn't either (he even admitted this).
    -Was inconsistent, because he had previously stated he didn't want to switch his vote off of Jedo the Jedi solely because he didn't want to remove the pressure on him. (So why was he able to switch it in this case?)
    -Was opportunistic. In addition, he had expressed concern about the kryptinen bandwagon building up so quickly, but had no problem putting Powerrox at L-1 despite that bandwagon building up almost just as rapidly.

I thought about Powerrox's claim and have decided that I don't think it is the best idea for him to claim his results. I think he should wait until two days before LyLo to claim his results. This way we don't have to risk outing power roles when we don't need to. If he's town, then that's all revealing his results is going to do: out powerrroles. If he's scum he

could

be a scum watcher (Seacore said he has had one in one of his games and I have also modded a game with a scum watcher), in which case, posting his results won't benefit us, and if he's not a scum watcher, but still scum, then he could easily pick somebody to "watch" that he isn't expecting to be visited and claim that they weren't. This is a scum strategy which could last him another few days and even if he posts an incorrect result, it would require a power role claim to out him as scum.

I don't want him to wait to reveal his results until LyLo, because then if he's town, a scum player could claim that they are a power role and that his results are wrong, get him lynched, and win. I don't want him to wait until the day before LyLo, because that would be the day we lynch Nachomamma8. So, I think he should wait until two days before LyLo and claim all of his results at once.

@quar: I agree with you
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Quaroath

But can you write what you're saying about me claiming results with fewer words, I've got a hard time reading that wall <_<

[Powerrox93]

@Powerrox - Forget about that post. kryptinen changed my mind and I had forgotten about the scum's night kill.

I was going to say ignore the last part of 322 >_<

[Powerrox93]

With deadline in two days , I could switch my vote to Jedo to avoid NL but I would rather lynch Quar

[Powerrox93]

Where is Power anyway? Has he said anything after the claim?

I'm here, and I don't have much more to say. I wanna lynch Quar but could switch to Jedo to avoid NL

[Powerrox93]

Voting for people you don't want to get hammered and especially putting them on L-1 seems like rolefishing, there's no reason to force a PR claim out of people you don't honestly want lynched. Unless, of course, you're scum who wants to catch the cop.

^This is why we lynch Quaroath today

[Powerrox93]

also, what was PowerOx's watcher result?

Setael, nothing

[Powerrox93]

And in the future, please don't call me PowerOx

[Powerrox93]

Want to hear who these people find scummy and why: AV, Pack, Power, Sea

TS: [quoting myself] His behavior seems a bit to... how should I say it... random in order to be town behavior.[/quoting myself]. And complaining about one thing and does it for himself in just a few posts later

Power, please explain why you watched Set. Did you believe Set to be the most obv town and therefore the most likely to be NK'd? Or did you believe Set had the best reads and therefore was most likely to be NK'd or what?

Due to all the pressure on me yesterday, I forgot to add to my claim that I could only watch my neighbors

[Powerrox93]

Yes, I forgot to tell my "restriction" in the first place, I didn't do it intentionally

[Powerrox93]

@PR - What is your role called, exactly?

Neighbor-Watcher

I had no reason to post in the QTs. If I had some reason to, I might have.

Don't you think you could generate anything at all from talking in the QT's

[Powerrox93]

@Power- When did you "remember" your restriction?¹ Why didn't you tell us about it in [post 405] when you said you watched Set? ²

1: During the night
2: I wasn't sure how the players would react

@Mod:

Going to remind you of this, I'm V/LA May 12-15

[Powerrox93]

So you just decided not to say anything and keep information from the town? Even if you're not scum, you're playing very anti-town right now. However, since Llama (And Sea somewhat) confirmed that you are probably telling the truth about only being able to target neighbors, I wouldn't mind letting you live another day or two.

@Power: How is it better to wait so that people have to not only react to your forgetting a part of your role and keeping it a secret from everyone?

I had a long thought-process, and I'm not even gonna aptemt to explain it.

also, I think Oxy boy should be given the benefit of the doubt today (again D: )

Don't call me that.

I'm fine with being called Powerrox93, Powerrox, Power,

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Will probably have more to say later, currently having problems with the game I'm moding

[Powerrox93]

Oh, please do. I'm interested and keeping information from the rest of the town isn't really all that good.

This is the most understandable version I can give you:
Since a question like "Why did you watch XXX" would most likely come up anyway, my gut told me to not do it directly

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GreyIce is neutral leaning town for me since he replaced in.

Pack and Seacore is starting to look worse. Personally I feel that Seacore is the more scummier of them now becasuse he uses meta as a to huge reason to not completely respond to GI

[Powerrox93]

@Mod: You should update the OP with Wicked's death

You're subtly confirming yourself here by proxy if Seacore is a mislynch since 'why would I defend him' (it's called a White Knight, they can do wonders).

What does "by proxy" means? If I've heard it before I've forgotten it now.

It makes him confirmed town because of how he interacts with Wicked's role.
Both are fairly useless without the other.

But I could get some information from watching my righboors, couldn't I?

Could people (Seacore and ICE) please keep the meta down? That kind of play restricts people.

Not quite sure what you're getting at here.

What I think she means is that they're using meta as a to large reason for their actions.

[Powerrox93]

@Mod: OP update please!

OP should now be up to date. Players should also note that the votecounts contain all living players and their neighborhood positions, and appear once per page

@Nacho and GreyIce:

Please read post 571

[Powerrox93]

EBWODP: I meant post 570

[Powerrox93]

@GreyICE: Thank you, it helped me understanding what you meant

does the speed of a wagon indicate alignment in any way?

Is it only me that think that this is something a townie wouldn't say?

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Since I'm gonna be V/LA soon, I'm considering who my vote should be at while I'm away. I'll vote later tonight

[Powerrox93]

Last post prior to my V/LA

I'm gonna VOTE: Seacore now since I think that he's the scummies person around ATM. He's behavior overall seems scummy to me. TS's latest post on the other hand is something that won't place him in my town-read pile.

[Powerrox93]

I'm home from my absence now, will be caught up with what I've missed tomorrow

[Powerrox93]

UNVOTE:
Because I want to have some anwsers first

So a full doctor is neighbors with a FUCKING WATCHER?

Can someone mail me a hammer?

Don't you think that game has any "global" PR at all?

@Those saying Set and I cannot be on the same side:

Care explaining please?

[Powerrox93]

WHY CLAIM SURVIVOR NACHO WHY!

[Powerrox93]

DON'T IGNORE ME EVEN WHEN THE GAME IS OVER NACHO!

And mod, where's the QT links?

[Powerrox93]

DON'T WAIT, DO IT NOW!

[Powerrox93]

I can edit my posts now. How did you do that LMP

*Shrug* I have no idea. Did you recently get mod powers?

I have mod powers for mini normals, not mini themes. I got those quite some time ago. Strange thing is strange...

- Power

[Powerrox93]

ANYONE

Can you edit your post in this thread?

[Powerrox93]

Powerrox93 understand 0% of what's happening right now, and he has sent a PM to Mr. Flay.

Powerrox93 is so confused now that he's started talking about himself in third person.

[Powerrox93]

Heh, relax!

The mini normal/mini theme queues are linked parts of the same system, and thus there is only one modding group that applies to both.

...but should you be able to edit your post even in games you aren't modding?