Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[Hiraki]

I'll start reading tomorrow or late tonight.

Unvote

[Hiraki]

+1 deadline ext. 1 week should do.

sorry for being alittle inactive, weekend does that, i need to read ninja's new spoilers yet.

[Hiraki]

The new deadline is set to Thursday May the 10th.
Countdown: 5 days, 8 hours, 21 minutes

Thanks again.

I'll start reading tomorrow and will make a determined effort to get through the entire game tomorrow. No guarantees though.

[Hiraki]

guys

gimme time mofos

ill knock ya socks off

[Hiraki]

EWBOP:

The entire point of the time extension was for me, no?

don't waste it

[Hiraki]

24 hours from now kthx

coming from the laziest ass

on earth

[Hiraki]

@Nuwen - Hiraki is under no pressure and is not even close to a lynch, what are you talking about?

will soon get active back again, so I will reread the last few pages and comment now.

For some reason I thought I was Zar, but thanks for letting me check.

I'll be done by 6ish EST today, I believe. Maybe a bit longer, but probably not.

[Hiraki]

Guess I should do this now, then.

Chiarosicada Pïrate Chemist Hiraki

K.

Just saying right now. I don't like either of these players.

Parama is town.
Vote Kanye

Prob scum, no joke. This is scum RVS play.

But seriously--
Unvote: Yosarian2
Vote: kanyeknowsbest (L-5)

Explain this, Vi. I don't think you're scum for it, just Charter.

I just wanna know why. For my own pleasure.

Seriously guys. 27 confirms charterscum.

unvote;
vote: shos

flailing

vote: shos

that was easy.

This is beautiful.

Am I going to see more of this shit later on? This is stupid.

In any case, that does confirm Diddin and Furcolow to be prob town, unfortunately.

And Parama is serious about this. That's not good.

At all.

I don't see a problem here; do you?~

Guys really?

Really?

What the fuck is going on here.

Shos was obviously joking.

Just look at his fucking join date. Easiest way to do it.

If you're all joking, you can go fuck yourselves now.

It's funny that you think these are RVS votes.

Very funny.

What the fuck is going on here.

This is borderline stupid trolling.

I like this.

Vote: Parama

Prob scum as well.

Appeal to Emotion level: Expert.

Definitely scum. You could've just said "I'm scum" there, because that'd basically be another way to say it.

note: Uber is not fine with a shos lynch at that moment, but apparently Parama is the exception

right

stalling

that's the word you're looking for

So, a self vote, a "I hope this town is going to lose" post, followed by unvote and going back to the wagon. Riiiiggght.

This is town Parama though. Sure on that.

so yos is scum guys
just sayin'

He had realistic points on your play.

God what the hell happened to you. This is the epitome of horribleness in the last few games we've played together. You used to be fun. This is annoying.

So you wouldn't be opposed to a Parama lynch, but don't want it NOW

If there is nothing said about this, Nuwen is prob. scum. Uber did the SAME exact thing, and I haven't even seen a note about it so far.

short days are even worse. a handful of people have barely posted, the less you hear from people the less you can hold them accountable for wht they've said.

Why are you guys acting like we're going to get a lynch in like two seconds. We're not. That's the whole reason that this situation doesn't arise in most games.

Usually only when the person is L-1 or L-2.

I don't think anyone but shos is, and that was fair. Parama? No.

Nuwen isn't making much sense in 138. Bit just stupid really.

Unvote; Vote: Yosarian2

Yo Parama. Prove yourself.

KEY AND POINT FELLAS.

I think Vi is scum. She has done nothing but push easy lynches on Shos and Parama, who, despite her claims, is not obvscum.

Unvote, Vote Vi

die die die

This sounds really opportunistic to me. Die.

Oh no! He can go for two wagons because both are scummy!

Opportunity is a dying scumtell. It wasn't even a valuable one in the first place anyway.

this post is terrible
unvote;
vote: shos

He's right you know.

shos's reaction to my pressure is one I would expect from scum.

This is diddin town, trust me.

And Shos is the guy FoSing anyone "bandwagoning." I'll turbolynch that crap off the site too.

Every game is a step closer to a brighter, better MS meta.

Right...

I need more diddin.

tell me then

at exactly which post did RVS end?

Parama stop this stupid shit.

Or you could, you know, actually act in a pro-town way and respond to people's legitimate concerns about your play in a rational way, instead of going through every single type of emotionally manipulative BS you can think of to get people to not lynch you. "You'll feel bad when you lynch me and I flip town" isn't going to work, and neither is the "Oh, poor me, Yos is bullying me, just look at our join dates".

Pro-tip: the "You're bullying the newbie" defense may have worked for you in the past, but it gets really old when your join is 5 months ago.

If I called you scum, you're null now. I'm pretty sure I haven't said much, so I'm going to say you're town.

charter, am I acting how I acted in Mini 1318?

HOLY SHIT.

IS THIS A FUCKING META DEFENSE?

WHY ISN'T HE DEAD?

Parama is right on Chairo. Can't say much in his defense.

Quilford isn't scum.

shos - Reversing my read on him to townie. Call me crazy but I think he's town now.

Interesting! Reasoning was grand!

Ugh. Getting very sleepy at 4:30ish. Not a good sign. Hoping to see some damning of Zar near.

Alright, I'll bite. If Quilford flips scum, lynch me next.

But who's scum if Quilford flips town?

What if the sky is red?

See these questions aren't relevant to anyone.

This isn't a funny joke. He better claim something that can be confirmed by mod

Because I'm fucking murdering him.

Imagine that, Chiaro's suspects are those that are voting them?

So then what does that make him?

I initially wanted to make a smart remark but this is actually not a bad question.

no it is

don't be like that

I'm leaning towards both Uber and Yos being town. Uber for a myriad of terrible reasons, the latest is how he's trying to paint Yos's lack of careful reading as scummy when there's no way Yos can purposefully being pushing this to gain an advantage as scum. And leaning Yos town for the same reason and the "case" on him is quite terrible.

Good buddying

not good enough

I'm down for it
VOTE: Nuwen
I'm still happier with Kayne

die die die

I take back everything I said with Quilford

I was wrong.

Here are my thoughts on Kanye.

Brevity is the soul of wit

You're saying "the enemy of my enemy is my enemy"

You're acting like this isn't possible.

Horrible scumplay.

But forcing players who MIGHT be scum to join the alliance if they wish to appear pro town (even if only for the moment) would effectively force them to vote the way the other five or so townies want to vote, instead of trying to subversively dissent and be disruptive to good pro-town wagons so that they never come to fruition. Do you see my side of it too?

This is a horrible idea. No townie would join such a force that would limit their ability to vote other players, just because someone has different ideas on them.

You're messing up on how an alliance works.

Ok. On Page 30.

Pizza is here.

Will finish later.

[Hiraki]

oh no you fucking didn't

do even need to read the rest of the thread for this shit

Vote: UberNinja

compadres

join me

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, u scum? U be lookin liek scum.

[Hiraki]

...

Shos isn't lying.

By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.

Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.

In addition, why the fuck would I say that I got a random message from someone when that someone could be scum? Your whole case is based off the basis that I knew the person's alignment. I didn't.

In addition,

Vote: Charter

[Hiraki]

why wouldnt you claim that? a message entreating you as a possible scum candidate trying to confirm you as scum and pushing a pro scum agenda? thats good information for town to have. the first thing it would make me think of is there is some sort of third party that can win with scum or a traitor. yknow, kind of the stuff a townie would want the rest of the town to know.

Because I actually thought, from the typing and convenient "buddies" that it was you and ignorable.

[Hiraki]

Then why did shos wait when he could have sprung this weeks ago?

And for that matter, why did shos challenge the wagon three times on the last page before posting this?

I don't know his reasoning, but I am aware that I received a message that was identical to what he explained.

[Hiraki]

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

I got a vision. Three visions.

Apparently one of the scum's flavor name, so I can deduce this vision, is named Martin.

I'll paraphrase the entire PM for investigation though, for later days.

So, I decided to go check out Elmo's crimescene some more.

I inspect the glass and find a medallion. Suddenly, because I picked up the medallion, I receive three visions.

The murderer had this medallion before, as he dropped it after he committed the murder. A vision of a tricolor flag(white isn't a color bitches) And finally, a man cutting his cape and muttering the word Martin.

These visions then end, oddly. I am left to ponder on them.

[Hiraki]

Actually, wait.

Why isn't Hiraki voting shos again?

He is.

I can also point out that in France's tricolor flag, which fits the flavor I gave, white IS a color.

booooooo

But since you're saying Hiraki is lying about the content of his private message, and Hiraki is saying there's an embellishment you're denying in said message, this sounds like 1v1 material to me.~

This is a different message. I actually fucked up this part, upon review. The first message was labeled a message. This is a clear vision.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: By message, I mean private message.

[Hiraki]

(4) Hiraki :

charter, kanyeknowsbest, Parama, shos

shos

right there

[Hiraki]

...

Shos isn't lying.

By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.

Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.

and did it indeed say you were going to be lynched? *goes to sent messages* no it didn't. first lie detected? O_o

Also, this.

Nope. He twisted my words. I said "probably going to be lynched" that's not "going to be lynched" you're missing the subjunctive part of that statement.

Besides, this is besides the point. What would be scummy about getting a message wrong that shos confirmed he sent to me? Wouldn't that just make him worse?

The other way around, you etc.

Ah. I'm being stupid.

Because I don't really think he's scum?

[Hiraki]

If Hiraki described a tricolor flag without knowing what it was AND specifically mentioned that white is not a color

I thought mod was going for German scum--that's the only reason I said that.

also, for now

unvote

Er why?

I'm pretty sure that's a minor technicality that certainly doesn't warrant shos calling you a liar.

I'm so confused right now.

Let me clarify this. Shos was right that the message says nothing about me being probably lynched or anything close to that. I don't know how I saw that or even saw the "probably"--it's been a long day. I honestly don't know how I got that fucked up in my reading abilities though.

My flavor claim is Jacqueline Champollion. Blonde and daughter of the director.

[Hiraki]

Why?

This is something that's held in France

after/during the 1800's

containing culture

why shouldn't it be german scum

[Hiraki]

Well, Marguerite thought, she'd be lucky to be back in time for the afternoon sitcoms.

"After/during the 1800s".

Which applies for after

radio tech

Then again. I'm not 100% sure.

How about this:

Mod: If a flag is tricolored, does white count as a color for the purposes of this game?

In addition, I feel this whole argument is distracting.

Why won't you vote Charter Vi?

[Hiraki]

radio tech

I'll admit I didn't see the part about sitcoms, but that doesn't mean it's after WW2, let the mod clarify this first though.

These discussions are growing to be pointless.

[Hiraki]

Shos. Why would I listen to a message that told me what to do?

Don't the words "trap" come to your mind?

Shit-list =/=Scum btw.

[Hiraki]

But the message had no note of who it was from.

[Hiraki]

That's basically admitting Scum don't have a QT, something you would not know.

Unless you were scum

That's going to the point that my buddy was stupid enough to have a message but not put his name in it just because he wanted to be secret

In addition, the message even went to the point of saying "if you are town"

[Hiraki]

first of all, scum *always* have a QT.

Yeah. To contact at night.

second, I did not say I was scum in the message - I said 'pretend that I have scum motives' or something like that.

You blatantly say that I should pretend that you are scum.

third, even if I *were* scum and what you're saying is true, how does that 'admit' that scum don't have a QT? the message was delivered to you AT DAY. if I were indeed scum, it only 'admits' that scum don't have daytalk.

It doesn't. This is correct. I rushed that part. Still devoid of the reasoning why I didn't post this.

[Hiraki]

no I am not saying pretend that I am scum, I am saying that MY MESSAGE told you to pretend that the sender wants scum to win.

which would make the sender scum or traitor with messaging abilities

right

because this seems like a really good role to put in a game that looks decent(not trying to make fun of mod, I just don't know what the setup is obv.)

[Hiraki]

Not that Hiraki has any idea why I should be voting charter

I'm getting bumrushed sheesh.

He was my second main FoS in my catch-up post.

Look for further details.

[Hiraki]

Parama.

We're good buddies.

Remember the old Scorehero days?

Those were fun.

Let's go back to them!

I command you to get off me right this moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hiraki]

I haven't read much of what you've posted mostly because due to the Chiaro/Pirate combo I've pretty much written you off as scum already.

But you know both of them were bad.

How could you not smell that foul stench?

Sure, I've fucked up, but I've admitted it. Them? They've just shit in this game and then left.

I clean that shit up Parama. It smells nice in here now.

ah fuck it.

this is useless

you're going to tunnel me for the rest of the game regardless of anything

good ole' parama

[Hiraki]

@hiraki: when you said 'So, I decided to go check out Elmo's crimescene' - what did you mean? is that some role of yours that has the power to visit crimescenes and find hints? why did you add the 'white' part if that was just your opinion?

My way of paraphrasing the Vision PM.

But yes, the PM does say that I went to the crime scene.

[Hiraki]

about the fact that 'le tricolor' is the name of the flag? I had no idea about it.

But you didn't send that message--it was a vision.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: I'm posting way to quickly in this game. Ignore the above--carry on.

[Hiraki]

The only murder in the Louvre I know is in the Da Vinci Code.

Does anyone have any better information?

[Hiraki]

*has bothered to put his vote on people who have no votes a LOT in this game, which doesn't make a lot of sense for scum to do as often as he has.

Kind of WIFOMy

[Hiraki]

Two votes in a row?

get the fuck out

[Hiraki]

Uberninja's wagon is less valuable BECAUSE he was so inherently scummy with every action and every word. I don't care that you claim to have a magical town read on him early and consistently; imo a town read on Uberninja in response to his D1 play is either inside information. Or maybe you're just better at mafia than everyone else in this game, Vi. All hail!~~

He's obv. newb town that thinks he's godly

like I used to play with him

just not so crappily

[Hiraki]

love you too parama

[Hiraki]

Hey guys.

Sorry about that, should've probably announced V/LA from yesterday to today, but I was really busy.

[Hiraki]

dunno about kats but diddin was scum and stayed scum so ehh

still want hiraki dead

Diddin has been playing horribly as of late though

[Hiraki]

zzz

charterdie

make that virus soon

[Hiraki]

this means that mod never used the word 'tricolor'. HIRAKI IS LYING.

I'd be dumbtelling to the

max

here.

Possible? Yes.

Would I stoop down there?

no

You are answering this. I will not relent on this matter.

No, and who did you replace again?

[Hiraki]

are you saying that the mod DID include the word 'triicolor' in your so called 'vision' despite what he said in that edit?

The mod isn't a vision

His edit gives me more proof

stop being stupid

[Hiraki]

It came from the mod

but you're thinking about this incorrectly

the mod's vocabulary is not my vision's vocabulary

[Hiraki]

-_-;;;;

do you think it is someone else who has written the vision then?

No, I think the mod is keeping split persoanlities

as in "the mod's character" as in the Mod itself as he/she is conducting the game has an extremely limited amount of flavor resources

mechanics-wise, it know's everything. Yknow what, we'll label this 'side' of the mod as "The Host"

Because Hosts conduct everything and the mod is doing just that

Then, the Mod has a different--completely different side

this the flavour side

We'll just call this the ghost of whoever died N1(too lazy to look)

this side has intense flavor vocab, but nothing mechanical and only exists in PMs about flavor

do you understand what I'm trying to get across?

[Hiraki]

Okay. Oh well.

That's basically it.

[Hiraki]

"if"

I believe it was

so no

[Hiraki]

Anyway, Hiraki, by your role, do you get some kind of flavor information from the mod every night? Can we expect some more info from you tommorow if we don't lynch you today?

Unknown. The vision had nothing to do with my role, as far as I know.

Perhaps I have a vision thing-a-ma-bob that only triggered today.

I'm not really 100% sure though. Sorry.

[Hiraki]

I wonder

is a game supposed to be fun

if you didn't even read more than your role pm?

[Hiraki]

i'm more awesome than you

there

i said it

bish

[Hiraki]

Yos isn't scum Parama.

how about you just assume i'm town for a moment

and listen to me

fgt

[Hiraki]

Hiraki: You say you "decided" to look at the crime scene. Was this an actual decision you had, or was that line part of the vision?

Part of the vision.

I don't think Parama is scum

just playing bad town this game

[Hiraki]

I think he's saying that if I'm scum, it has to be from in-game material and that I would get the visions.

however, how could I get these visions as scum?

[Hiraki]

ok

I can do this now

my entire read just got demolished by that vote

Unvote, Vote: Furcolow

(L-2)

[Hiraki]

Wait a moment.

Detective, Tracker and Vig?

hold the fuck up

[Hiraki]

unvote

[Hiraki]

Can I have the name claim list again? I think we can get rid of some town being scum.

[Hiraki]

Can I have the name claim list again? I think we can get rid of some town being scum.

I'll get that for you in a minute, can you respond to the last 3 pages in any better way meanwhile?

I will later, but I'm in a brainstorming moment that might show obvscum.

[Hiraki]

Hmm.

As much as I'd like to comment on the last three pages

my mind is stuck on trying to find relations with names and their roles

trying to see if there's any relation between PRs and names, or anything of that sort

I don't want a massclaim, to note, but I'm going to keep thinking about this and will comment further later, hopefully with more game-content.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, why did you unvote on D2?

I was able to relate with other ongoing games. Not going to say much more than that because that's just about as much as I can say.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, why did you unvote on D2?

I was able to relate with other ongoing games. Not going to say much more than that because that's just about as much as I can say.

I could've sworn you said UberNinja after this for some reason--this was a mistake. I got my games confused.

[Hiraki]

Nice job waiting for the claim.

I'm doc. Sorry.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Nice job noticing that I posted in GD btw.

Did you notice me posting in any mafiascum games?

Didn't think so. I'm a bit busy and those posts were

very

short and just a quick read-through stuff. I'm disappointed. I understand that this had to do a bit with me, but I don't believe I deserve all of the blame for this.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP2: In addition, this is also the reason I did not claim Shos' letter at first. I thought it was a messenger type role that was messaging "the doc" and not "Hiraki"

To add the message, in the beginning, said it was delivered through unknown means, which means to me that it could've been delivered by name or by role. That was the exact reason why I had said nothing about it at first until pressured about it.

[Hiraki]

Vi N1
you N2

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Nice job noticing that I posted in GD btw.

Did you notice me posting in any mafiascum games?

Actually, YES.

Provided it's real, that Doctor claim would have been useful DAYS AGO. Just saying.

You wanted me to out

when there were three PR claims anyway

and just about everyone in the game was suspecting me?

ha

Doc is a very, very lazy scum claim and you should feel ashamed.

Oh yes Nuwen. I feel very ashamed.

[Hiraki]

ha

[Hiraki]

There is absolutely no motivation for me to give two fucks about me dying as scum.

Look at my games as scum. I either claim a nice VT before dying or just say "welp" or something to that accord.

[Hiraki]

You replace Pirate Chemist.

Role PM

You are

Jacqueline Champollion

, you work for the in house art restoration team of the Louvre. Being the Directeur's daughter, rumours of privilege have made relation with your colleagues difficult in the beginning, especially with the female co-workers who had categorized you as an empty headed daddy's daugther because of the appeal men tend to find in you. But despite being blonde, you actually have a brain, and do love your job. You liked repairing broken things as a child, and it is the same sentiment of satisfaction that graces you when you succeed in re-giving a painting or an artefact its original beauty. The murder of your father has deeply saddened and frightened you, but you are now determined that no further harm will be done if you can prevent it.

Wincon

You dearly love the Louvre and will do anything to save it. You win when all threats to the Museum have been eliminated from the game or if nothing can prevent the same.

Abilities

• Vote:
  during the day, you may cast a vote which will count toward a lynch.
  
• Restoration:
  Each night you may a player to protect from harm.

The game thread can be found here.