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Maybe I'm losing something in this loudness cast (the only one I don't know being Kuribo out of him, Fate, Spy, and Marble), but Marble's town to me.
MattP be hatin'.
So, yeah, hi. 'Specially you, vijay. Glad you get to play with the man instead of being watched by the man?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 312, SpyreX wrote:Ok. I demand being elected a selective vig that kills on the term "loudness" because woooooooosh.
Well, you guysare...What else do you want me to call you?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Obviously his standard of being loud is higher than my standard of being loud <_<.
In some seriousness, though, I said I don't know kuribo so I'm going to have to go on anecdotal stuff to ascertain if he's been really loud and raging. And Fate's usually a rager half the time, so I've come to expect that from him whenever I'm playing with him or watching a game he's in.
As for you, that might've been a mislabel as, now that I think about it, I don't have any meta on you being loud. (games I've watched, of course; fairly sure we've never been in a game together), and in retrospect I was probably overstating that in regards to you, so apologies.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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RPG II vaguely comes to mind (I was the town blacksmith in that one, and I'm still kinda ashamed I didn't post that long summary of that one guy's scumminess). Actually, I think you were in a hydra with someone else, so that's why I didn't remember at first.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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That's gonna have to wait now. There's a single-day LoL tourney tomorrow (today?) that I'm in that I need to get a little bit more training in for, so I'm going to devote most of today and tomorrow to that. Anything else I do over here will either be for the Open I'm in or for the Open I'm modding. I will get back to you as soon as the tourney ends, though. I have been watching from the beginning, though, so I'll give some simple thoughts from what I remember:
BBmolla isn't even here and needs to be. Not sure if it's null-lurking or scumlurking right now, so that'll require a reread.
Darox, IIRC, was okay. Slightly on the town side.
Don't really remember Elmo.
Lack of Faterage aside, I'm not really liking his attempt to discredit Marble's point of quoting his ISO. Not that I disagree that it's a bad thing, but I don't think it's THAT bad.
GreyICE is always scum.
Don't remember anything from Hendric. Like, at all. I have this vague town feeling from him, but that's about it.
Implosion is in the same boat as BB, I think, though not as bad. Still needs to do stuff.
Kayne is null.
Loudness (or lack thereof) aside, Kuribo is also null pending the reread.
MattP feels like scum.
You, Spyrex, lean town.
Vijay I'd only say town because I like him and all, but from what I recall he was really cheeky in a scummy way.
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Mission looks like it'll be BB, Spyrex, Implosion, Matt, Darox, and Fate. Not a bad lineup, cept for BB cuz he's not doing anything.
Went over Vijay's ISO. The early parts are bad (the don't/just typo, the 60-40 thing), and together are worth a vote, but I wouldn't push that to a lynch. However, considering that 247 attacks me and tries to get a chainlynch going on one of my sure townreads (Marble), I don't like it one bit.
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Post 348 - Keep in mind those were only simple impressions from what I vaguely remember, and from what I saw on that page. You are one of the more underdeveloped reads I have, so I'm not putting alot of faith in my probscum read on you at this point. Simply put, I may prefer someone else over you, but you're not THAT bad a choice.
Post 350 - The fact that you're not fuflling quantity isn't the point. The quality isn't there.
Untrust: Spyrex(You're already going to be in the mission)
Trust: Llamarble
Post 351 - That role should probably be X-shot, I think, though.
Post 356 - Gave my thoughts on vijay, though I still have yet to get to the other three.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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That was...underwhelming from Fate. Not so much "HOW DARE YOU GO AGAINST MY WHIM YOU BASTARDS! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW MY PLAN!" as "CMON, SPY! WHY DON'T YOU AGREE WITH ME?!?!"
If that doesn't make much sense, it feels like Fate is just yelling to try and curry favor with Spyrex rather than honestly raging.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 372, SpyreX wrote:Pffft its its own thing and I wouldn't weigh it either way.
The fact that Fate is being a lazy lazy mclazyface is different.
There is that, too.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Did people miss the part where that was simple impressions? I just remembered at the time that you and BB weren't even there at all (Spyrex, Marble, and Kuribo hogging the spotlight near the 10-page mark notwithstanding), which is why I said you were like BB.
Matt was from only looking at the pages around where I replaced in. I haven't been able to do the formal ISOs that I said I would (or at least on Matt), so that read was obviously tentative and not really well-grounded. I'm willing to trust Llamarble on that read for now as the deadline is almost upon us.
As for Fate, I still don't like him.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Well, Fate did have a chance to change his mind, but his little tantrum with Spyrex ruined that, so he's not someone I want on this mission. Yes, I know that it's effectively 3/6 now, but it was going to be 4/6.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 384, MattP wrote:In post 378, Voidedmafia wrote:Did people miss the part where that was simple impressions?
Scum ping, trying to keep his hands clean from the backlash of his reads by stating they were just impressions.
No, trying to get it into your heads what they were, and how little I was putting into most of those. Repitition for effect, etc.
Scum ping, bullshit reason to have a townread on someone, seems like a lie to cover up his slip of change of read on me.In post 378, Voidedmafia wrote:I'm willing to trust Llamarble on that read for now as the deadline is almost upon us.
Well, my read on you was "feels like scum", so that's not very concrete a read is it?
Also, why is that a bad reason? We're dangerously close to the deadline, and I don't see why I can't trust one of my townreads for the time being.
Post 385 - Oh, yay, let's make it a habit whenever I'm in one of GI's games D1 <_<.
Post 391 - Okay, so...
Post 393 - Elmo, dude, I know this feels like you, but cmon. Put some meat on there.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Since when did I vote myself, GI? Last i checked, I was voting vijay.
Matt, why are you trying to insist that deferring to a sure townread near deadline is scummy?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Don't worry, Fate, I'm not repeating RPG II this time, but my reads were woefully underdeveloped, nor did I have the time this weekend to develop them. Just would prefer to live past D1 in a GI game, thanks.
However, I haven't been able to really understand how we came from vijay/Implosion to me at all, and I don't like it one bit. Call it desperation or w/e, but this wagon definitely is too fast to have come from town. Even for the deadline, it's not good.
Elmo should die soon, or be pressured hard.
Llamarble should never die, period.
Spyrex disappoints me.
Fate MIGHT be town (not definitely, as I still don't like that bit in the last couple pages), but his rage now feels genuine.
MattP has yet to answer my question, and I've honestly felt that his reasonings haven't been worth this wagon. A crazy thought just occured that Matt made a wagon to save his buddy in Implo or vijay (or possibly) both, and if that's true, then congratz, you saved 'em!
Darox, Fate, Llamarble, Spyrex, kuribo, and I suppose BB should be the mission people unless associative tells or flips say otherwise.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 435, kanyeknowsbest wrote:plurality lynch blah blah blah delayed hammer with unvoting allowed blah blah lynch fate lynch fate lynch fate more words zzz
is anyone actually paying attention in this game?
Considering how little you're doing beyond jumping in, whining about wanting a fate lynch (which now seems unlikely, and then leaving, I'd say you certainly aren't.
Besdies, regardless of the rules, this wagon is pretty fast even for a deadline lynch, and you should be alarmed at that. Unfortunately for me, I can't tell if it's town determined to get me mislynched with scum piling on later to get it going or if it's scum getting what appears to be an easy alternative and town just lazily joining it because "eh, deadline, meh, w/e" or something. In either case, Elmo is highly suspect and should be the next point of discussion tomorrow/rest of today.
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Yay, Fate's back!
Vijay: If you want a reason, look here:
In post 438, Voidedmafia wrote:Besdies, regardless of the rules, this wagon is pretty fast even for a deadline lynch, and you should be alarmed at that. Unfortunately for me, I can't tell if it's town determined to get me mislynched with scum piling on later to get it going or if it's scum getting what appears to be an easy alternative and town just lazily joining it because "eh, deadline, meh, w/e" or something. In either case, Elmo is highly suspect and should be the next point of discussion tomorrow/rest of today.
What I didn't add on at the time is that both things indict Elmo. In the former, as he wasn't the first to vote, he votes me to bring attention to getting a wagon (and to incite people to vote me since a couple were already inclined to do so); in the latter, he helps create a wagon (potentially with a his buddy/ies) that the rest of the town jump on just to get a lynch through. Either way, his vote is scummy as hell, and just as oppurtunistic.
Matt: Ummm...I did say that I'm not sticking to those reads (except those that I've developed enough that I will stick by them, like my Marble townread). As for what you don't understand, what's not to understand? I have a rather weak read on you, it's near deadline, I didn't have the time I wanted to delve into your ISO and confirm what I originally thought, so I'm trusting the read of the towniest read I have. You're not suddenly a townread to me because marble says you are, I'm just willing to trust him for tonight until I can get my thoughts on you straight. What's wrong with that?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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You have a point, but I do think that we should keep at least 3 of the people on the mission the same, provided that all three are not responsible for sabotage. And believe Spyrex, you, and Llamarble should be those three.
Though, since I think Spyrex, at least, will be garaunteed back on the mission,
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499 sounds weird, in a "why would you post that as town?" sort of way. Maybe I'm thinking too much along the lines of normal Mafia games and I'm thinking that's a scumclaim or something, but I just don't like it.
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In post 502, implosion wrote:You can all vote for voided now.
If you want to vote for someone finding something weird, then go ahead. I won't stop you. But you'd do better to help explain where I'm wrong (if I'm wrong, anyways) rather than "herpderp vote him derpderp".
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You mean in 376?
Well, when I said you were like BB I meant you both were lurking to varying degrees, but you weren't lurking as bad as BB (admittedly I thought I already explained this point, but going over both of us in ISO shows that I actually didn't, so eh...). I've already tried to explain my part on MattP, and Fate became better by the end of D1, so you've only got 1 of those three things going for you now. Unless I missed something.
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Like, realy, what makes it a townslip? Forgetting about what's in the rules for the specific game? I do that, too, sometimes. Why is that a townslip?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Not on you, though. My stance on BB was that he was lurky, and that was the same stance I had with you. I would've wanted someone better, but you weren't bad.
I accept the point on Fate, but not on Matt. I already explained that part to Matt himself. Besides, 4/6 isn't that bad.
P-EDIT: Would say I've done that, but I don't remember and I don't want to scour through my games to find it. 499 is still weird.
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Again, I never said your lurking was scumlurking, or that you or BB were scum. You two weren't the BEST, but you weren't bad (the "you two" is obviously plural and "but you" is singular). And at least 4/6 isn't that bad at all.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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I guess we'll have to disagree on how bad 4/6 is. Sure, going by what math you're using that's better than what I was going on, but I didn't think it's horribad or very bad. Or overly bad in general.
Okay, fine, I screwed up with what I was thinking. I admit it. Now are you gonna charge a lynch on me or you gonna think this is some sort of townie frustration?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 538, kuribo wrote:who the fuck is haschel cedricson
The unknown nord who disappeared to Scandinavia.
Translation: I don't fucking know.
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Depends on the action and what specifically your ability was supposed to attack, though from what you said I suppose it's implied that Implo should be somewhat akin to a tree stump?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Untrust all
Trust Kuribo
Trust BBmolla
Still dislike BB for not doing much, but Post 563 makes sense.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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untrust Fate
Trust kuribo
BB - 3
Darox - 5
kuribo - 4
Llamarbe - 4
SpyreX - 4
MattP - 4
Should be accurate for who's going on the mission.
I would still prefer to get HC's claim and last thoughts.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 688, MattP wrote:Scum would not gain anything from a town successful mission
Regardless of whether or not scum is on the mission?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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In post 692, vijay2vasandani wrote:In post 682, kuribo wrote:In post 679, SpyreX wrote:I mean does it follow the "got N1" "use D2" hulalababloo
I got it at the start of the day and I can use it any time day or night. just that there may be unpleasantness if I don't use it in a timely fashion
(i reckon this means it expires)
my item said this as well.
so are we lynching HC or not? if not, let's lynch VM please.
Ignoring the new scumminess in fate just to push your mislynch?
Just found us a potential connection here, folks. But Fate dies first.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Yo, Implo, I know you want me dead, but let's lynch Fate first. You see that blatant ignorance in 703? That's probably a better indictment than what you got for me.
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In post 706, implosion wrote:dammit voided.
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Post 616 - HC reaches lynch threshold
Post 625 - Marble unvotes HC bringing him below the threshold.
Post 655 - Fate votes Marble
Post 669 - Kayne votes Marble
Post 684 - I vote Fate
So Fate only has one and Marble's got two now, or something like that.
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In post 765, MattP wrote:In post 764, Darox wrote:You didn't think wrong, you just did it so well that it worked.
I'm shocked too.
Shocked that it worked on whom?
Good question.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
coming back to Mafia...slowly. Keep an eye for me as a mod.
Also keep an eye for setup review requests.-
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