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I claim town. Also, I don't fully get the 2/3/4 of a kind mechanics. What is a follower ability? Also, as a guy who isn't TOO terrible at poker, I know that the odds of anyone making a pair are fairly small, also the odds of anyone making a 3 of a kind are basically that it isn't going to happen. So I would bet a lot that there is some role mechanic that manipulates cards.
Re your questions:
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In post 41, AngryPidgeon wrote:Because salamence claimed Scum?
In post 42, drmyshotgun wrote:P-edit: Whoa, where?
Actually Im moderately ok with my vote.-
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In post 153, GreyICE wrote:By the by, Magna might be scum. This is about 1000% more likely if Shotgun flips scum.
I know I can read him well but even I have trouble with a naked hammer post. But as scum he'd almost certainly do that, day 1, on his buddy. Both of us bus a lot.
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In post 162, Shahrizai wrote:Well that was fast. I think Drmy is a good lynch, but I don't like that Magna just hammered like that before I even got to post.
GreyIce's comment about Magna bussing makes me think that he might be the one bussing and trying to set up Magna for tomorrow. But I don't like Magna hammering so maybe I'm just paranoid.
Soul2277 doesn't ever vote. He just talks about things and asks questions.
Literally tomorrow's lynch-
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^What. but no seriously hes scum. His post was SO scummy.
1. Why you no let me post, Im so upset about that!
2. I want town cred for his scum flip!
3. But seriously guys, GreyICe was BUSSING on this one and totally not MoI.
Notice that she acknowledges that bussing happened. She knows Drmy's alignmnent. shes scum.
No, Shahrizai is dying Tomorrow. She is definitely scum.-
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Yes, I'm lurking. Deal with it. Im tired as hell and skimming as I play dominion.
My general thoughts so far: OS/the-fuck-his-name-is are probably town.
I think GI is town if drmyshotgun flips town OR scum. PM is probably town.
KillerJester I don't know what to think about.
I'm guessing Salamence was told in his PM that he is a dayvig. His insistence on continuously trying to get that point across is probably from town.
Parama? IDK
Shahrizai is defo-scum if shotgun is. If he flips town, then I don't know.
P-edit: I really do think Grey is town.-
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Actually leaning slight town on KJ.
I AM unsure of what you'll flip. I find it unlikely scum posts so much after being hammered. Yes Sal's posts are mostly filler, but I think he keeps reposting that because no one commented on how his role PM must have said he was a dayvig. IDK, it seems town. I think. I don't see scum getting a role card that says they are a dayvig and it turns out fake.
P-edit: KJ. What? If she is town then she doesnt know what shotgun will flip so why would his flip matter?-
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Ya, I figured it out. I don't necessarily agree though. I think she could easily be scum independent of GI/MoI.
P-edit: PMyst or Voided? I remember voided did something that made me think he was town but I forgot to make note of it. I'd have to ISO him. But I do agree that his interactions with PM are far from town-looking.-
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Ya, I think I figured VM's willingness to hammer drmy was likely a towntell, but it really probably isn't.
@Parama: Ok, just saying >.>, but you are scummier for that post
VM is posting a ton of walls and that makes him more town than not. I'd give better opinions but Im seriously exhausted. Im going to sleep.-
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So, Im at work and caught up while waiting for my stuff to start. I REALLY need to keep a dedicated mafia notebook...or just start keeping a google doc for every game I play. I like that idea more...
The weird circumstances of this Day make me hesitant to get gut reads on peeps like MoI, but I think MoI is town. PiggyGal I am unsure of.
VM is very probably town. I think Soul is as well. Shahrizai is the most probable scum right now.-
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I see SC lurking.
@MoI, do you dislike gut reads or just the phrase "feels off" (that phrase implies a gut read).
I kind of understand the lack of reasoning thing. It seems to me that people voting without any other content in certain circumstances is a scumtell. (Sawyer in Switchboard, Tierce in P4)-
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Addendum to my last post: Thats also why I voted salamence so early on. But I can see his PR contributing to his lack of explanation more than his alignment.
P-edit: But why does it matter if you or MoI get the hammer???? Doesn't that give you more info on MoI? ISn't that good?
As to the rest of that wall, I can't process that right now. This argument is mostly inane.-
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Wow, Sal how did you make that connection so fast?
I'll be honest. My reads were hazy in the marathon day that was D1, and I put of rereading. So I should do that tonight.
IIRC, Parama was one of the few people I was willing to vote out the gates >.>
So, off the top of my head Soul was town. Probably GI as well. Oh, right I remember who is scum
VOTE: Shahrizai-
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In post 329, Soul2277 wrote:And Nobody is listed as a living player (which implies he has a role too)
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In post 161, Shahrizai wrote:Well that was fast. I think Drmy is a good lynch, but I don't like that Magna just hammered like that before I even got to post.
GreyIce's comment about Magna bussing makes me think that he might be the one bussing and trying to set up Magna for tomorrow. But I don't like Magna hammering so maybe I'm just paranoid.
Soul2277 doesn't ever vote. He just talks about things and asks questions.
Read this goddamn post. The sentence about bussing is from fucking nowhere and comes from a mindset that is NOT town. Its a really easy statement to make that shows zero perspective on the game. The "I don't like the hammer" is yet another really generic statement to make that shows zero evidence of original thought. And the last sentence explains why soul doesn't want to vote her.-
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@Soul, and the predictable fling back at me "But that isn't what you said Yesterday!" And?
Im saying that Shah's post is far too confident to come from town and she needs to die now. Your defending her is suspect and that last sentence in the post looks like someone commenting on a buddy.
And I said "I DONT KNOW" Well I now I do.-
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Yup. Im not backing down on this one. I've learned recently that I need to stick to my guns more when I find these things. And this is a team. The "I know Im not a buddy" line comes from scum. Its saying "Well you're wrong because Im town!" I see scum do that. I haven't fully figured out why thats such a natural scum reaction to someone calling them on a team, but it is. But really, she needs to die today.-
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In post 267, Soul2277 wrote:The only player we suspect are AP and voided, with voided being our main scum read.
In post 344, Soul2277 wrote:you've proven your last scum read was just off
Since 2 can play at the bullshitting game.
Why am I suddenly not being treated like some that is your 2nd biggest read (especially sine Im chainsaw defending your #1 read?)-
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Derp. and derp.
No Im saying its pretty obvscum of you to list me as null scum and then say my reads are shit (because that implies Im town and just playing like shit).
ITT: Hydras can't use their account.
I need to reread Voided and MoI. Because her post is too confident to come from town. I mean really? She pops in, reads the entire goddamn thread and is sure enough of her drmy scum read to say "Oh ya hes scum and was probably bussed by GI actually!" Bullshit. Nope and more nope.
I'll dig up KJ's analysis in a bit..-
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Except that is not wrong. And I've learned enough from other games recently to know that I need to stop backing down to pressure when I see shit that other people refuse to see / are scum buddies.
So Mehdi, was everyone on the Drmy wagon so wrong in their reads that you won't be taking them seriously the rest of the game? GI? MoI? Half the players in the game? And the small shit is what makes good reads. I bet you like meta cases...-
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Holy fuck. Im about to go punch someone. Please go reread the last few pages and find the spot were you just accused me of doing this:
you just argued with me over I shouldn't be really discussing reads with you if I have you as null-scum.
Then find the part where I was confused.
Then find the part where I clarified your confusion.
P-edit: Votes for Shah are votes for justice.-
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Ok, Mehdi. I definitely do NOT hold that opinion and would never say it as town/scum/FlyingCircusMonkeyFromTheBermudaTriangle for any reason. I just never would because I don't believe that.
I said you are scum because you called my reads shitty despite having me as null scum The way you phrased it implied that you know Im town. I read your argument that you can call peoples reads shit and still think they are scum. I don't think I responded to that particular part of it, but I don't really find it to be compelling so w/e.-
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In post 275, killerjester wrote:It's more of she is town because I can't imagine scum playing like that. Because scum would know what he'd flip.
Like I said, I've seen scum dive into speculation about flips going one way when theyknowthat it won't. Its really not that uncommon. Its a subtle way of
1. Providing analysis that you don't need to be accountable for in the future since its all void after the flip
2. Looking like you don't know what that person will flip
VOTE: Soul2277
Fine, I'll do this.-
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In post 391, Voidedmafia wrote:I trust this is referring mor to MoI than me because I never once stated that I thought Grey was bussing Gunny. I implied YOU were, though (even if it was a rather poor bus), in my response to your post 67.
Actually, confirm with me here: Are the two quotes I have above talking about me or MoI?
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In post 427, Voidedmafia wrote:Do I have to act like I'm his enemy when I think I'm scum?
Scum check. First person to call VM scum for this is scum.
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Really. Shahrizai is like off the charts scum. One of those rare scummies that is radiating scum vibes so hard that I put on my sunglasses, smile, and soak in all the delicious obvscum.
Soul's defense of Shah is pretty much that: SHE ONLY MADE ONE POST. SO WHY IS THAT DEFENSE WEIRD TO YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT NOONE SHOULD REALLY HAVE AN OPINION OFF OF ONE POST (AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT SOUL SAID)??
So let me get this straight. soul is scummy for saying there is no case on you because you have no content. But me tunneling you is not scummy at all? Hrrrrnnnnnnngggg.
VOTE: Shahrizai
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