Mini 1,384: Dirty Dealing (Game over!)

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VOTE: PMysterious
GreyICE, you town?

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I claim town. Also, I don't fully get the 2/3/4 of a kind mechanics. What is a follower ability? Also, as a guy who isn't TOO terrible at poker, I know that the odds of anyone making a pair are fairly small, also the odds of anyone making a 3 of a kind are basically that it isn't going to happen. So I would bet a lot that there is some role mechanic that manipulates cards.

Re your questions:
VOTE: Soul2277

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FoS Sal.

MoI and Jester make the P1 town list.

P-edit: sure is.

PP-edit: Walls and triple posts already?

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What question exactly? Why am I town? Because yes?

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Or why was my "GreyICE, you town?" question important?

Because I honestly feel I can read alignments based on the answer. Sue me.

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VOTE: Salamence

Silly sal, voting so early with implied justification is a scumtell.

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^ Haha.

"I'd like to get the input of someone I know is town" -drmyshotgun
"I'll vote whoever you do." -PMysterious

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Because salamence claimed Scum?

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I overexaggerate. But I do think hes scum.

LOL, that bastard mod spec.

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VOTE: drmyshotgun

Why is he scum?

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Because salamence claimed Scum?

P-edit: Whoa, where?

Actually Im moderately ok with my vote.

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No. I know why Im voting him. Im sheeping GI.

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So voided mafia is probably town.

112 does not make me regret my vote.

We aren't PLing Pmyst.

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Was that hammer?

Why am I town PM?

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>.>

Well I think PM is town FWIW

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By the by, Magna might be scum. This is about 1000% more likely if Shotgun flips scum.

I know I can read him well but even I have trouble with a naked hammer post. But as scum he'd almost certainly do that, day 1, on his buddy. Both of us bus a lot.

Agree with this.

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Well that was fast. I think Drmy is a good lynch, but I don't like that Magna just hammered like that before I even got to post.

GreyIce's comment about Magna bussing makes me think that he might be the one bussing and trying to set up Magna for tomorrow. But I don't like Magna hammering so maybe I'm just paranoid.

Soul2277 doesn't ever vote. He just talks about things and asks questions.

Literally tomorrow's lynch

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^What. but no seriously hes scum. His post was SO scummy.

1. Why you no let me post, Im so upset about that!
2. I want town cred for his scum flip!
3. But seriously guys, GreyICe was BUSSING on this one and totally not MoI.

Notice that she acknowledges that bussing happened. She knows Drmy's alignmnent. shes scum.

No, Shahrizai is dying Tomorrow. She is definitely scum.

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That what was to PM

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@Pmyst: You aren't on the wagon, why should VM hammer?

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Yes, I'm lurking. Deal with it. Im tired as hell and skimming as I play dominion.

My general thoughts so far: OS/the-fuck-his-name-is are probably town.

I think GI is town if drmyshotgun flips town OR scum. PM is probably town.

KillerJester I don't know what to think about.

I'm guessing Salamence was told in his PM that he is a dayvig. His insistence on continuously trying to get that point across is probably from town.

Parama? IDK

Shahrizai is defo-scum if shotgun is. If he flips town, then I don't know.

P-edit: I really do think Grey is town.

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Actually leaning slight town on KJ.

I AM unsure of what you'll flip. I find it unlikely scum posts so much after being hammered. Yes Sal's posts are mostly filler, but I think he keeps reposting that because no one commented on how his role PM must have said he was a dayvig. IDK, it seems town. I think. I don't see scum getting a role card that says they are a dayvig and it turns out fake.

P-edit: KJ. What? If she is town then she doesnt know what shotgun will flip so why would his flip matter?

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Double post: Oh I get your point. I don't agree with it necessarily though.

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Ugh, can I not look up your question and pretend I did? Just tell me what it was?

Parama has done nothing to make me think he is town is all.

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Ya, I figured it out. I don't necessarily agree though. I think she could easily be scum independent of GI/MoI.

P-edit: PMyst or Voided? I remember voided did something that made me think he was town but I forgot to make note of it. I'd have to ISO him. But I do agree that his interactions with PM are far from town-looking.

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Ya, I think I figured VM's willingness to hammer drmy was likely a towntell, but it really probably isn't.

@Parama: Ok, just saying >.>, but you are scummier for that post

VM is posting a ton of walls and that makes him more town than not. I'd give better opinions but Im seriously exhausted. Im going to sleep.

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So, Im at work and caught up while waiting for my stuff to start. I REALLY need to keep a dedicated mafia notebook...or just start keeping a google doc for every game I play. I like that idea more...

The weird circumstances of this Day make me hesitant to get gut reads on peeps like MoI, but I think MoI is town. PiggyGal I am unsure of.

VM is very probably town. I think Soul is as well. Shahrizai is the most probable scum right now.

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Of course the salamence ISO is fluffy, that pr is heavy.

Still think hes town.

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I see SC lurking.

@MoI, do you dislike gut reads or just the phrase "feels off" (that phrase implies a gut read).

I kind of understand the lack of reasoning thing. It seems to me that people voting without any other content in certain circumstances is a scumtell. (Sawyer in Switchboard, Tierce in P4)

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Addendum to my last post: Thats also why I voted salamence so early on. But I can see his PR contributing to his lack of explanation more than his alignment.

P-edit: But why does it matter if you or MoI get the hammer???? Doesn't that give you more info on MoI? ISn't that good?

As to the rest of that wall, I can't process that right now. This argument is mostly inane.

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Im going to take SC's lurking and the lack of a lock on the thread to assume that Drmyshotgun isnt hammered yet?

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Wow, Sal how did you make that connection so fast?

I'll be honest. My reads were hazy in the marathon day that was D1, and I put of rereading. So I should do that tonight.

IIRC, Parama was one of the few people I was willing to vote out the gates >.>

So, off the top of my head Soul was town. Probably GI as well. Oh, right I remember who is scum

VOTE: Shahrizai

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^ Come on, I suspect you have been around the block.

Scum talking about hypothetical flips that don't happen is not uncommon at all. In fact scum like to make a big deal about mispredicting or speculating about flips that end up going the other way.

P-edit: Oh god my ears

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Scum is more likely to be so blatantly sure of themselves. Read the post. Is she frustrated? No. Is she way too confident? Yes. Its scum, now lynch it.

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And Nobody is listed as a living player (which implies he has a role too)

Why wouldnt he?

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Well that was fast. I think Drmy is a good lynch, but I don't like that Magna just hammered like that before I even got to post.

GreyIce's comment about Magna bussing makes me think that he might be the one bussing and trying to set up Magna for tomorrow. But I don't like Magna hammering so maybe I'm just paranoid.

Soul2277 doesn't ever vote. He just talks about things and asks questions.

Read this goddamn post. The sentence about bussing is from fucking nowhere and comes from a mindset that is NOT town. Its a really easy statement to make that shows zero perspective on the game. The "I don't like the hammer" is yet another really generic statement to make that shows zero evidence of original thought. And the last sentence explains why soul doesn't want to vote her.

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Someone talk to me. soul, I just accused you of being buddies with Shah.

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@Soul, and the predictable fling back at me "But that isn't what you said Yesterday!" And?

Im saying that Shah's post is far too confident to come from town and she needs to die now. Your defending her is suspect and that last sentence in the post looks like someone commenting on a buddy.

And I said "I DONT KNOW" Well I now I do.

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Yup. Im not backing down on this one. I've learned recently that I need to stick to my guns more when I find these things. And this is a team. The "I know Im not a buddy" line comes from scum. Its saying "Well you're wrong because Im town!" I see scum do that. I haven't fully figured out why thats such a natural scum reaction to someone calling them on a team, but it is. But really, she needs to die today.

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Die.

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They are a team together. It really doesn't matter.

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The only player we suspect are AP and voided, with voided being our main scum read.

you've proven your last scum read was just off

Since 2 can play at the bullshitting game.

Why am I suddenly not being treated like some that is your 2nd biggest read (especially sine Im chainsaw defending your #1 read?)

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someone*. Since*

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Lol k.

Anyways, Shah is obvscum. You are prob-scum.

So? Point still stands that you were null-scum on me yesterday and today you are telling me my reads are shit (implying that Im town). The hell did that read come from? Oh, right. Derp!

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What? Are you saying Im dumb for arguing with you because you are scum? And what idea?

Shah's post is super obvscum.

You are now running through the classic progression of scum reactions that I've seen in response to me in other games.

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Salamence, less lurk, more sheeping me.

Who is listing who as null-scum and not discussing things with them?

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Derp. and derp.

No Im saying its pretty obvscum of you to list me as null scum and then say my reads are shit (because that implies Im town and just playing like shit).

ITT: Hydras can't use their account.

I need to reread Voided and MoI. Because her post is too confident to come from town. I mean really? She pops in, reads the entire goddamn thread and is sure enough of her drmy scum read to say "Oh ya hes scum and was probably bussed by GI actually!" Bullshit. Nope and more nope.

I'll dig up KJ's analysis in a bit..

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Except that is not wrong. And I've learned enough from other games recently to know that I need to stop backing down to pressure when I see shit that other people refuse to see / are scum buddies.

So Mehdi, was everyone on the Drmy wagon so wrong in their reads that you won't be taking them seriously the rest of the game? GI? MoI? Half the players in the game? And the small shit is what makes good reads. I bet you like meta cases...

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Holy fuck. Im about to go punch someone. Please go reread the last few pages and find the spot were you just accused me of doing this:

you just argued with me over I shouldn't be really discussing reads with you if I have you as null-scum.

Then find the part where I was confused.

Then find the part where I clarified your confusion.

P-edit: Votes for Shah are votes for justice.

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Ok, Mehdi. I definitely do NOT hold that opinion and would never say it as town/scum/FlyingCircusMonkeyFromTheBermudaTriangle for any reason. I just never would because I don't believe that.

I said you are scum because you called my reads shitty despite having me as null scum The way you phrased it implied that you know Im town. I read your argument that you can call peoples reads shit and still think they are scum. I don't think I responded to that particular part of it, but I don't really find it to be compelling so w/e.

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Is repeating arguments a tell? Hint: what does it say about my belief in them that I keep forcing them on you?

I will say that calling out drmy's speculation as a VT tell is a light town tell from you.

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It's more of she is town because I can't imagine scum playing like that. Because scum would know what he'd flip.

Like I said, I've seen scum dive into speculation about flips going one way when they

know

that it won't. Its really not that uncommon. Its a subtle way of

1. Providing analysis that you don't need to be accountable for in the future since its all void after the flip
2. Looking like you don't know what that person will flip

VOTE: Soul2277

Fine, I'll do this.

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I trust this is referring mor to MoI than me because I never once stated that I thought Grey was bussing Gunny. I implied YOU were, though (even if it was a rather poor bus), in my response to your post 67.

Actually, confirm with me here: Are the two quotes I have above talking about me or MoI?

Neither.

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Ok, Im incredibly confused.
You are saying PM/Voided are lovers? And that voided is town, PM is scum?

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@Soul: I'll read the Voided case when Im home.

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PM is scum and voided is town for wanting to lynch him?

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Not sure if serious claim.

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ITT We PL Soul and VM for that horrifyingly long wall case and defense.

But seriously, holy cow. Reading kind of.

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Do I have to act like I'm his enemy when I think I'm scum?

Scum check. First person to call VM scum for this is scum.

GO
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Really. Shahrizai is like off the charts scum. One of those rare scummies that is radiating scum vibes so hard that I put on my sunglasses, smile, and soak in all the delicious obvscum.

Soul's defense of Shah is pretty much that: SHE ONLY MADE ONE POST. SO WHY IS THAT DEFENSE WEIRD TO YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT NOONE SHOULD REALLY HAVE AN OPINION OFF OF ONE POST (AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT SOUL SAID)??

So let me get this straight. soul is scummy for saying there is no case on you because you have no content. But me tunneling you is not scummy at all? Hrrrrnnnnnnngggg.

VOTE: Shahrizai

Choo choo

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Im going to be disappointed if we somehow don't lynch Shah today.

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Urgh. I haven't read the wall, but lets not lynch Soul. Lets lynch Shah.

P-edit: Soul, what would you say if I said the team is possibly MoI/Piggy/Shah?

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I still need to read a wall from the you/VM debate, but I'm having trouble seeing any of those walls coming from scum.

I don't think I just found the scum team necessarily, (except Shah is scum). Im slightly wary of MoI for ignoring my Shah case (and ignoring me in general) to pile support on the you wagon.

GreyICE I don't want lynched Today. I really would like to hear more from him.

NS is really a big fat null for me right now.

I always subconsciously try and outguess the mod although I shouldn't. My instinct tells me one of the PRs is probably scum.

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before I could claim

something

.

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God. Damn. It. On phone, but wow. Well played, shah : /.

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I have a suspicion about the setup after seeing the Shah flip and my role. Debating claiming. GI is likely scum

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Soul, who would you have expected to die over MoI

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Semirelated note, read on me?

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Well, I need to read this carefully tonight. I suspect vm and soul are town. Scum is likely somewhere around KJ, GI, NS

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Discussion topic: does my Shah push make me obvtown? Is it weird I wasnt NKd?

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Well, MoI is a weird nk because if nothing else, he was a very possible mislynch.

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It makes me think scum is lurking. Ie, not you or voided

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What would your initial response have been if PM died last night?

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I legitimately want everyone to answer my ?s

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No, we need more than that GI.

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Piggy you accidentally your PR.

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VOTE: GreyICE

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What would your initial response have been if PM died last night?

Are we assuming he'd flip town?

Yes, I mean assume he flipped VT. Basically Im saying imagine someone not as active died instead of MoI/VM/Me/Soul

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Ok, so NS and Soul are probably town.

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I rather think Salamence is very anti-town, too. So anti-town, in fact, that he jumps the shark into Scumland.

Vote: Salamence

Does this post honestly come from scum? I think its too awkward for that.

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Ok, Im going to run some ISOs. And then

cry in the corner about Shah flipping Jester, seriously write a guide for me

figure out which of these is the best lynch: {PM, Killer, Piggy Sally}

GreyICE, you are ignoring me on purpose. I want you to answer me. Am I town? Was my push on Shah townie? Is it weird that I didn't die last night?

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Fair warning Grey, you are more of an empath than most people on the site and see shit from not-you perspectives quite well. Im ready for any bullshit WIFOM you may say.

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Grey is so Null. So very very null.

So we've seen 3 VTs and a Jester. Pretty anti-town so far, no? We must have some decent PRs out there somewhere. OR possibly a 2 man scum team.

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Person who soft claimed, you might as well you've already given yourself away.

Salamence?

And yes Im aware my stance on GI is lolz.

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So, I think Piggy is town.

I think KJ is scum.

I think PM is scum.

I think salamence has a post restriction.

VOTE: jester

I think NS isn't scum?

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I do not advocate lynching Grey today.

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Actually somewhat certain in my jester scumread. And as you all know Im an expert at

scumhunting

jesterhunting.

But Im all angry'd out and pidgeon'd out after Yesterday (and other factors) right now so I may end up sheeping someone else today if no one likes this.

Im feeling sexy so heres a case:

Let's lynch Nobody Special tomorrow.

Think about it...

Really, we should lynch NS tomorrow for reasons? Looks like going for "Im so carefree with my posts I'll do what I want because Im so obvtown #YOLO" but it doesn't look genuine.

The Sharizai townread? There's no way she made that comment about GreyICE bussing if shotty was going to flip town.

Really? No way? Just because scum never go for fake predictions for WIFOM's sake? Hmmmmm k. And you are very certain that this is a town tell and that Shah is town? Not remotely uncertain?

Plays very responsive, only focuses on NS wifom and Shah = town for a bit.

I also think scum-Void could have acted overeager for the hammer on shotty.

This sentence just sounds awkward. Sue me for being a gut read nazi.

More NS herpaderp. Really KJ? No one cares that you thought he had a pr and now you don't.

GreyICE felt town D1 although I couldn't put my finger on why

This also looks fake in the "Im so obvtown I don't need to justify my bullshit" department. Are you an UberNinja alt? Naw, you aren't actively trying to be a douchebag. (Joking about the alt spec)

Not to mention he really hasn't shown evidence of scum hunting. And I have...oh god Im actually going to say it.. a tiny bit of meta to suggest hes not town. I need to go wash my hands. And burn my keyboard. And setfire to the clothes I am presently wearing.

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His feelings that you are a good ML and that killing from the MoI/VM/Soul pool just makes us want to lynch the others for PoE reasons.

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I assume KJ's silence means hes scum.

But lets be honest. Yesterday (and D1 to an extent) featured a lot of VM/Soul/MoI noise (with me providing a Shah side show before it was cool, but it finally went mainstream). Parama and I contributed to the VM/Soul/MoI noise, although notably less than those 3. The Parama lynch. And now the MoI lynch presents us with an awesome dichotomy:

Spoiler: wall posts oh god, why did it have to be wall posts.

*quote wall from Salamence*

Really? Dolls? That post restriction is REALLY doing some problems with your typing skills. Sorry bud, I really love to help you, but I can't because you bypassed me in experience. Besides, I've been getting hated a LOT by many people over the 4 months I was on this site.

See, Soul? This is why I've maintained a PL status on him.

This post doesn't comment about how Sala reads us (which is what he does in the quotes). He doesn't try to ask Sala why he has those reads or what they mean. He doesn't even try to argue his towniness, my scumminess, or my towniness. Instead, he goes after the fact that Sala

used dolls to try and explain his point

.

I had hoped what came D1 was a sign of something better. It seems that I may be mistaken.

Not sure if serious claim.

I could ALMOST believe, considering who it's coming from. Almost.

Voided: Are you town? Don't lie.

Yes. Though your usage of your mod colors is getting annoying.

Voided we didn't give one reason you were scum. We gave a wall. Countering one even if we still say you showing lack of reading at times and wanting to kill pm for mistakes is still hypocritical (and the lack of reading is bad on its own) doesn't counter at all the other reasons why you are scum.

~Mehdi

...*facepalm*

(pssst, NS lurking heavily is a scum-meta-tell. Lynch it soon.)

*Looks at Voided*
*Points at calendar*
*Points at next day*

Yes, yes, I know. Point is it's one reason to point toward lynching NS, though it's not standalone.

Spoiler: response to Soul

Why does no one agree that Voided is scum? Why does no one even comment on that?

Upon hearing this actually stated, this does bother me somewhat. Only AP gave any sort of definitive read on me post-hammer (town because of the walls), while MoI does comment about some things regarding him but doesn't seem to actually give a read either way. Neither them nor anyone else in the 4-5 pages after the hammer ever mention problems with the hammer itself, reads on me, or comment on what you're saying to me. That's...unnatural, to say the least.

First I will give you recent meta on Voided. Words with Scum is a recently finished town game of his. Look at his iso. Notice the effort that he is putting in. He is inspecting players. He is looking for scum. Is this the Voided that you see here in this game? No. The Voided that you see here is being passive, defensive, and generally not helpful at all to the town. He is doing nothing but sitting on his hand and watch town lynch itself.

One notable difference I'd like you to be aware of is that with WWS I was there at the beginning (more or less) and was able to immerse myself into the game almost ASAP. Here I had 5 or so pages worth of RVS-like posts that I had to wade through. It's not hard and fast regarding me, but I do have some problems getting into the swing of things when I'm not there right at the start of the game.

Also, sitting on my hands? That is an outright lie.

Voided's first actual post is a hallmark of his play this game. He claims he is catching up, but he isn't actually contributing anything with the post. What content is even there? Where is the scumhunting? There isn't any scumhunting. He is posting about shit that is irrelevant to the thread in an effort to make it look like he is active. This is a trend that you will see in his future posts.

Asking you about post restrictions is one point of content.

Asking you about what you weren't going to let MoI do this game is another.

Post 116 is eerily similar to the post above. Why? Because Voided really doesn't give a fuck about finding scum in this game. What does he do in this post? Engages in a policy lynch on an easily readable albeit bad player,

Because prior to this game PM had made pretty much zero attempts to even

try

and be a good player by any stretch of the definition. It's not so bad that I'll never /in to the same game as him ever, but unless it was a do-or-die situation or otherwise not worth it I would advocate a PL on PM D1 every single time. Some of his posts D1 have given me pause on this view of him. There is the rest of the game to figure out whether or not he should still be called "useless," but if his play keeps the same quality as yesterday I'll at least not consider him PL material.

makes filler comments to my slot twice (dafuq and calling us town)

Calling you town is a filler comment?

calls Salamence the second "lynch" after PM is gone for whatever reasons.

nope, that was telling Sala to go after PM first.

It isn't even apparent whether that is a policy because it is Salamence who is another perceived bad player (although less so after the recent Disney game) or because he thinks Salamence is scummy.

To be frank, Sala is not necessarily PL material to me (though he's not a good player). I don't see him as scum, either (though what exactly his post restriction implies I haven't figured out yet, nor have i tried yet).

He then reaffirms his vote on PM by quoting a post of PM and being generally dismissive

Post of Gunny, not PM. Considering that the first time I actually quote a post of PM's is in 142 I find it weird that you'd mistake a post from Gunny as a post from PM.

He then asks a very lazy question that he could have easily found himself, especially since he has a memory of the game I referred unlike this slot who only read parts of the game.

Not really. All I really remember from that game is that I couldn't read MoI, some bare bones about our attempted strategy that game, and maybe one or two reads I had. That's about it.

Post 120 is very interesting. Specifically I am talking about how Voided continues to push the policy lynch on PM while also opening up the option of hammering DrMyShotgun. The funny thing? He talks to Shotgun in a nice, friendly way. A friendly way that does not come from someone who is suspicious of another player. At this point in the game he hasn't even made mention of finding DrMy scummy but he is already willing to hammer him?

Alright, I'll give you that I didn't articulate why I thought Gunny was scum, that much is true, but what does my tone of posting with Gunny have to do with how I read him? Do I have to act like I'm his enemy when I think I'm scum?

If you want to know why I thought Gunny was scum, post 58 was not a good post by Gunny for a couple things:
1. I don't know why Sala was stuck to that kind of style, but it doesn't feel like a fake restriction.
2. Trying to assert that he was making himself conftown just did not sit right with me. I know that there are players who do stuff like that, and i know Gunny can be one of them, but the way he said it felt too tongue-in-cheek to be from town.

Also, when I commented about Gunny "giving up" I was referring to the string of posts starting around 92 where he was flipping people off. I thought that was scum-Gunny effectively giving up on the game.

ALso, if you want to talk about "being friendly while wanting X lynched," what about your 233? In the same post you want me vigged AND talk conversationally about KJ's confusion over whether or not NS is actually in this game. You certainly weren't acting like I'm an enemy when you made that P-EDIT.

Post 130 is more of the same from Voided. Each "response" to the quotes does not add anything to the discussion and useless. He can guarantee that Richard is not Parama. So what? How is that important or relevant to the game at all other than saying "I know this"?

So? People were wondering about that. I gave a definitive answer. What's the problem?

and in fact defends DrMyshotgun not only once but twic by saying "he doesn't think there are more than 3 scum" and "you vote gunny then ask why he is scum".

To the first: And since when can you not defend actions of people, even if you think they're scummy? That was a bad angle to attack Gunny from, and I was making my stance on that known. Why is this bad?

To the second: I wasn't defending Gunny there. I was attacking AP for voting and defending Gunny in the same post (and before you try to grill me for "assuming things" again, there is little context around that post to show that AP meant to ask anyone else about someone other than Gunny being scum. If there was, no explanation from AP was given.)

Again, he is willing to hammer that? HIs attitude and his actions are completely divergent. Only now does he imply that he thinks Shotgun is scum by saying AP could go after Shotgun (and subsequently no longer wishes to policy lynch PM which I highly believe was a stall vote until something better came along, like DrMyShotgun).

Where do you see ANY indication of me not wanting to PL PM? No such thoughts ever ocurred until I was shown that his play this game was substantially better than any game I've seen of him or played with him.

His question to piggy, who he was interested in knowing? Please don't talk because he doesn't want to read her post restriction. Where is his train of thought? Why was he interested in hearing from her, but now doesn't add anything to say about her. ANother filler comment designed to look like he is contributing.

...There was none? I just didn't want to have to deal with reading the post restriction?

SURE WE ARE! (okay, maybe not. We'll just lynch you or Gunny, then.)

This deserves to be quoted because it is so bad. He is already setting up possible lynches to see where the town is most willing to go.

...uh-huh. I'd already stated I wanted Gunny lynched (lack of reasoning notwithstanding), I had recently stated a scumread on AP, thus I had no problems with either of them being lynched. What, exactly, is scummy about that?

There is enough content from PM and other players in the game that he can move his vote to voice his suspicions. He was waiting to hammer because he thought he could get away with it.

PL-ing PM was still on the table at the time. Also, I believe there were some other loose ends to tie up at the time that I was waiting for.

Post142 This post is bad for two reasons. 1) he makes yet another filler comment that implies he is not even completely serious about this game even though there was perceived hammer on Shotgun. Are you fucking kidding me?

Huh? We're in srs bzn now?

Look, I understand that you see me as scummy (or want to), but this is reaching. So I reacted (admittedly rather poorly) to MoI "hammering" instead of me. How does this indicate that I'm "not even completely serious about this game"?

LIke I said before, bastard moniker does not excuse bad play.

Neither does it excuse painting everything I do as being scummy when it's better explained as being misguided or something else.

2) He says that PM is policy lynch material, he says that PM is bad at reading comprehension, his vote is still on PM for a policy lynch and then he asks PMs opinion about AP? He doesn't ask anyone else who he thinks is a competent player.

PM stated he had a townread on AP. Regardless of my opinion of his play, that is something I think requires asking about considering I had AP as a scumread, no?

He asks the person he wants to fucking policy lynch about another person that he says "deserves to go".

He deserves to go, that much is true. But that doesn't mean I automatically am not allowed to ask him questions or to probe his comments. Why are you so indignant about this point?

This post is the creme de la creme of Voided's scum posts. He publicly acknowledges that he read our post, or posts about the fact that Dr was not lynched through two statements. The first statement is his use of pedit. The time between his last post and the hammer was 6 minutes. If he had begun to make ANY post between that time line and then try to post it, he would have seen a list of all the posts already sent, he would have seen our plea/call to *not* hammer.

Again, I must've read the part about Gunny not hammering and ignored your plea.

Trust me, I wouldn't have hammered if I saw that.

The second part is the fact that he says, Oh I guess I counted wrong. Really? That is interesting because the only posts with numbers are Parama's, PM's, and ours. Parama's and PM's were posted before ours. If he saw those posts in a pedit it would be physically impossible for him to *not* see our post.

Because that was NOT referring to the P-EDIT posts at all?

Think about it. Why would me saying "I guess I counted wrong" have ANYTHING to do with the posts in the P-EDIT when none of those posts had anything to actually COUNT? Isn't it better to think that I was referring to the fact that I may have actually

miscounted the amount of votes on Gunny

?

Serious reaching, here.

His reaction to me calling him out on that is classic scum. It isn't, I am sorry, but I really didn't read it. I am sorry but I was just skimming or I am an idiot. It was

you can't prove that I did or did not read it

. Its a fucking slap in the face and shows no remorse about his action. He is being snarky and disrespectful.

I apologized for not reading it properly already. Doing so again would've been redundant.

And that was a pure statement of fact. You simply can't. Nor can I adequately prove that I didn't read that since that requires believing and trust what I say, which you aren't likely to do.

(also, I wasn't being snarky at all, and I'm offended that you think I would be with something like that.)

this post is hilarious. The tone is completely forced and more "go the fuck away you annoying gnat" then "why is he having such a hard time understanding what I mean"

It was a bit of both, to be honest.

When I am town and people do not understand me I make damn well sure there is no confusion. I tell them what I am thinking. I tell them the reasons behind my actions. Voided doesn't do that. Instead he is annoyed that we have a problem with his play. Are you honestly serious?

When I had said essentially

the same thing

in Post 220? I was essentially repeating myself, which was annoying in and of itself.

You're trying to say that I didn't tell you what I was thinking? If you had read post 220 and didn't focus solely on the P-EDIT part you'd see that I explained this particular point already.

I'll get to this later but one of the best things I love about Voided's play thus far is that he was willing to lead a policy lynch on PM for being useless, a bad player, and having horrible reading comprehension, yet when I am pressuring him and grilling his ass about his horrible comments and reading comprehension he is all defensive. So it is okay if he does it, just not if PM does it. Gotcha. Hypocrisy is *so* cool.

Just as cool as it is when you lambaste me for comprehension fail (which I'll admit I did a lot of Sunday night) and then turn around to do the same here in this wall.

Furthermore, PM IS a bad player who IMO had only shown better colors just this game. In the past (as in prior to this game and excluding anything ongoing), has essentially made nothing but useless comments that give no contribution to the game or gamestate, and has given maybe one or two posts at most that are actually contentful. In contrast, as you've so thankfully provided, I have a much better ratio of filler-to-content, and I assert that I do try to give one or two gems of content in some of my longer "filler walls."

Okay, so because I misread the gamestate itself and thus drew an false conclusion about a post (that I just admitted to and apologized for upon realizing this), suddenly I'm vigbait?

Really?

Ya. When you call PM lynch bait for exactly the same reason.

PM doesn't misread the gamestate. He flat-out ignores it 90% of the time. Two completely different things.

Post 250 is one of the only times after Shotgun has been lynched (and still actively posting mind you) that Voided feels compelled to talk to him. Its a dismissive, off the shoulder comment made to discredit Shotty furhter before he dies. It is bullshit.

Even though what I said is true? Gunny hadn't flipped town yet. As far as I was concerned, it was equally possible that Gunny-scum was posting to throw us off-track as Gunny-town trying to get in some last-minute (or rather, last-hour) posts and reads prior to SC locking the thread.

Post 271 Are you fucking serious? You just hammered the kid, then said what he was doing was diversionary tactics and you talk to him like this? IS ANYONE FUCKING READING VOIDED'S POSTS BECAUSE FROM THE VOTES ON US, YOU PEOPLE ARE CLEARLY NOT.

...What? What are you talking about (or rather, what part of the post are you taling about)?

If you've read my posts, you'd find this to be a nonzero number and that YOU are trying to discredit me.

Um, no. I did. The only original opinions you've given are that you want PM to be lynched, you somehow found Shotgun scummy enough to hammer him without remorse, and you want AP to be lynched but aren't too concerned with telling people why. Is that it? I think it is.

Uh, no it's not (at least regarding AP, anyways). Though I suppose you think that since you took a post where I was attacking AP and took it as me defending Gunny, so...

In this post he says that saying something is "goodposting" is him somehow contributing when he didn't even link to the right post. He isn't reading the thread. He is just saying shit.

I thought he was talking about PM, not Sala. What posts I was referring to make perfect sense then.

THis is the post that I was talking about earlier where he is defensive snarky and instead of feeling remorseful or getting emotionally annoyed/angry over what he did and how I am perceiving it he states "well yo ucan't prove it so you can shove it". No. That isn't townplay. Town would want me to think he is town despite the bad player. Voided if he was town would explain and go into more explanation. Instead he tells me to deal with it? Like that is going to fucking change my mind in anyway.

You got meta on this, then? Because that totally sounds like a meta challenge.

288 THat isn't the impression that I got from that post at all. Nice of you to immediately jump to conclusions and shoot it down, though.

Okay, what DID he mean, then? enlighten me and everyone else who thought along the same lines as me when they saw that post.

Do you think you should be policy lynched a la PM? Serious question and since you already committed to reading this I am expecting a response.

...To be honest, not really. I played shit-terrible yesterday with all the reading fails. I know it, you know it, everyone else should know it. However, you know full well that I can be a good player (or at least decent). I'm not going to outright beg you to reconsider or anything like that, but if you do seriously considering doing that this game or any other game, you should ask yourself, "can he (Voidedmafia) honestly play better than what I saw that makes me consider policy lynching him?". If the answer is yes, then I don't think you should be asking that question.

If you want to talk about, PM, then let's turn that question back on me. "Can I (Voidedmafia) believe that he (PMysterious) can honestly play better than what I saw that makes me consider policy lynching him?" Prior to this game, and up to posts 168 and 192 in this game, that answer would've definitively been no. I've played two games with him, and in neither game did he show any indication of understanding the game, showing meaningful interaction with the players, or giving any sort of good contribution to the thread. But look at this game! There are a couple instances of the above D1, but what posts he has made have actually been somewhat contentful (they aren't necessarily GOOD, re. his attempt to meta MoI, but it's meaningful content). This has made me start to consider that maybe PM can play this game, and reconsider my PL views on him.

It's a question of whether or not I parsed all the information correctly, which is unfortunately proof that neither of us can actually provide. That P-EDIT line can go either way.

No it really can't, but nice try. I really thought I was wrong yesterday but after rereading your iso there is simply no other explanation other than yo ubeing scum, Voided.

There isn't?

A lack of clear reasons for a vote isn't a "me" issue. Insisting on having said clear reads (even if they're bullshit) is my peeve. The former is more useful as a potential scumtell (or whatever), the latter is not.

And what was your reason for voting Shotgun? You gave none and only in passing comments said you would lynch Shotgun? You dug yourself a mighty fine grave buddy.

Partially stated when I said "Gunny's given up? I can hammer dat". I gave a reason, even if I didn't articulate my scumread on Gunny.

Who is now pushing this case after the NK set us up for it? KILLER JESTER. dun dun dun.

[AngryPidgeon]

What was forced about his hammer reaction?

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And obviously by Parama/MoI lynch I meant kill.

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Hi, lurk-scum. f5...f5...f5, hm nothing.

Anyways Im getting bored of waiting for you to ask me in a silly manner about what meta I can possibly have on you, so here it is.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=18910

Why were you so much more proactive that game as opposed to here where you are reactive. Also more genuine there.

[AngryPidgeon]

Playing League of Legends. You can join me if you want.

Oh, We should!

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As far as your "lolol lurk scum" posts, please stop adopting the sword in a field complex.

Lurking is not a scumtell; I just enjoy being a pest.

I phrased my point poorly I guess. You are not using NK logic to push the point per se. But the NK has left us with a VERY likely VM or Soul lynch today, and you being the first person onboard makes me edgy.

So being upset is a scumtell? Strongly disagree.

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He already claimed it was Ferp from P+F mafia essentially.

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Ferb*

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NS is probably my 2nd favorite lynch as of right now?

I don't want GI lynched for at least a couple days despite the fact that he is tunneling Sally's PR and derping excessively. PM needs a replacement or a prod or something.

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Thoughts on having Piggy/Sally flavor claim?

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I mean there must be some reason for their PRs? Does their pm really say "blahty blah you are le 9 of diamonds and you must post a newline after every single word because fuck you?"

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Ok, I'm more or less ok with voting salamence.

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Weird, I have 4 cards. But like I said Id be surprised if there was no role in the game that manipulated them somehow. Maybe scum have a card blocker? Lol? Fine, no sally lynch. Fine no piggy lynch. I'd rather hold off to Tomorrow for mass claim. NS is not a bad lynch.

[AngryPidgeon]

If anyone managed to make some sort of card combo and use it that would probably be worth claiming?

Piggy looks town.

Sally? I mean has he?

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Actually I guess not ^ unless we have a confirmed guilty or something.

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The disadvantage is that it could let scum know who is unlikely to make a combo. Like if I claim that I spent all 4 cards on a JK that didnt go anywhere, Im not at risk of making another combo anytime soon.

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I would like a full claim from NS and KJ

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KJ, explain your "we should vote NS" post from Yesterday?

ToastySoul9001, I looked up KJ meta mainly for you to enjoy and no comment?

NS needs to claim next post. Intent to l - 1 it

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(for example AP's never been scum on this site and I'd expect him to be more quiet as his first time scum here).

Once a windbag, always a windbag.

FWIW, PM basically site flaked. I would not say he is coasting by any stretch of the word. Also lurking will never ever be a scumtell for PM.

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Ap never responded to my question, I don't think. I'll accept some fault for not pressing the question, though.

What ?

Anyways, my new fear is that VM and Soul are scum together. I mean seriously, those wall posts..

But for that to be the case you two would earn a medal in Bullshitery.

Amazingly enough, I think AP's the only other person outside of you/Moi/myself who has actually directly commented on these walls

I do not see a lot of relevance in these horrifyingly point by point rebuttals. Its way too easy to get lost in context It would help if the quote walls at least had links to the original post.

But honestly I can't really say I have much useful to say about the wall except that it kind of looks town/town.

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Also, an early post had you vote Gunny and then ask "why is he scum?" With no other context that I recall, I asked why you voted him and then asked if he's (Gunny's) scum in the same post.

Was mostly derping. Decided to sheep GreyICE and see where it went. I like RVSy wagons. Although I guess that was distinctly not RVS.

Post 42 felt fake. I see your point about the VTness in hindsight.

KillerJester needs to die for post 54 >.>

69 for that matter too but little less.

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Post 73 DOES look like a really forced way to hop on ye olde Gunny wagon though.

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Urg, I want muh KJ lynch

He is so disengaged from the D1 backandforth. Does not at all seem like him town. But I will still vote NS.

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He was just hoping that part of the bastard mod part of the game was that we can just ask to have people force replaced

Gratz on making an actually townie post Grey.

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You hurt me Grey.

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But seriously is Sally's only crime a questionable PR?

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Weird that you gained them and THEN lost them. What was the time frame of that exactly?

Claim Q of spades I think.

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Did you get get a card on D3 then lose it or you just lost all 3 cards, gained a 4th (1st?)

What connection are you talking about? Id apply critical thinking but can't bring myself to do that ATM.

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My interest it is peaked.

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Oh, right that. KJ, duh.

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NS next I suppose, my scumread on Voided has weakened significantly.

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Are you even allowed to reveal what the PR is?

~Mehdi

*Shakes head up and down*

On a scale of one to what. What the fuck are you talking about GI? Salamence did say "shakes" head but that has to do with him being a dumbass. The up and down addendum makes it pretty clear that he CAN reveal his PR (and in fact tried to later)

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Piggy gal will now claim if the moderator will kill her if she

violates

OOPS GI PROBABLY MEANT TO ASK REVEALS

her post restriction.

Absolutely no argument.

ITT GreyICE trolls everyone

[AngryPidgeon]

*looks at sals last post*
*asks salamence why on earth hes confused*
*loosens deathgrip on kj*

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VOTE: Nobody

L - 1

Claim.

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UNVOTE: Nobody
VOTE: KJ

Hrrnnnng, ok and Apparently Mehditoast got your card right.

[AngryPidgeon]

Card claiming time voided.

Spoiler:

P-edit: no.

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So, Soul what card do you think VM has?

[AngryPidgeon]

Well that PoE's down Grey's card. Share collective data plz?

[AngryPidgeon]

Greys card is obvious. Think about it.

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yICE, you town?

So glad you're town.

Why the fuck is this so tough then, AP?

Don't think it hasn't occurred to me that the only way there's three scum is if you're one.

Spoiler: GI's Card

No don't be an idiot. Its not rocket science

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I'm an idiot then. I don't see how that shows whether he has King of spades or whether he has King of clubs.

Wow. Im the queen of spades. GI and I are hurr/durring all game? Conclusion? Hes not clubs.

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You can take the ? off the spread sheet

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I would bet that one King, one Queen, one Jack is more likely than 3 kings.

There is defo some pattern.

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If I had to plunge into setup spec I would throw darts at GI, Piggy, KJ. As my top picks.

P-edit
VOTE: Piggy

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Alternatively Voided/KJ/NS

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Why not Grey Piggy? They've been mostly avoiding each other excpet a couple notable locations:
1. Piggy votes on a "lets get GI to talk" wagon
2. GI talks about how the PRs are scummy but really only pushes Sally.

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Killer/Soul. Neither of you has any sort of connection / anything in common to each other or PM?

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>.>

I never said Piggy was scum. But she is scummy for suggesting that PEOPLE WHO WERE NIGHT KILLED may not be town.

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I know, I was hoping she would respond to my vote but apparently nope. speaking of people cruising with their PRs though >.>

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Excuse me GI? I see Porky's point about this being a bastard mod game, but it didn't occur to her that the people NK'd are probably not scum? What?

[AngryPidgeon]

Goodposting ^

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Well, I propose we at least let the day go on long enough for PM to

contribute

,

Get replaced

, prod-dodge

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Im saying we should do that. If we end the day, he gets another email refreshes his lurking spree. IDK how SC mods. You like NS's Soul vote? But you are putting lots of faith in the spec?

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Im saying we should do that. If we end the day, he gets another email refreshes his lurking spree. IDK how SC mods. You like NS's Soul vote? But you are putting lots of faith in the spec?

...No.

I said there's plenty of reason to vote NS outside of the spec. But the spec also reinforces why we should vote him. Not the other way around. If spec was the only reason to vote NS (like I think it'd be for Piggygal) I'd have no part in such a wagon.

Why the hell did you say you like NS's vote.

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Give me a chance to reread everything sometime this weekend for serious. I pretty much want to lynch everyone right now for some reason or another.

GreyICE for who the hell knows what hes going on about
Everyone else for lurking
Voided is certainly not a townread.

FWIW: Id rather lynch NS than GI.

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Basically I'm quickly entering my Mini 1347 state of having null reads on everyone, being jumpy as hell, laden with pet theories about the game, and not wanting to commit. Hence I need to reread and want to kill all the lurkers with righteous fire (but mainly just Sally for having a retarded PR, piggy for being so obvscm with GI, KJ for being so obvscum, PM for posting nothing past day 1, GI for not being reasonable at all, VM because the you/VM scum team is to lolz to drop from my brain, and NS for lurking like a champ and his claim seemed a little forced).

P-edit: Yep, I need to reread

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NS, what are your reads?

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Why is Mehdi scum other than OMGUS?

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Because I totally see the point about you/piggy/sally.

There was definitely a little "PRs must die in righteous fire!" followed by "Only Sally must die in righteous fire!"

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If I ever die, you must all power lynch GI FWIW.

[AngryPidgeon]

and by power lynch I mean it.

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Hi Salamence, what are your reads?

[AngryPidgeon]

Whoever is messing with Soul's cards needs to claim it right now if they are town.

[AngryPidgeon]

But then again I have to believe that scum GI knows his Salamence case is quite transparently scum motivated and is possibly just him distancing, lewl. But Im done with



theories until my reread.

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PIGGY IM VOTING YOU, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, HI, QUESTIONS?

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Kind of, but look at how many people want to lynch Sally that aren't GI. Its not like it had risk of going through.

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<roflcopter>GreyICE is scumming up the Salamence wagon </roflcopter>

P-edit: Thoughts on Sa-lol-mence?

Does your pm talk about him or NS at all?

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VOTE: Salamence

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You don't honestly think its fake, do you? The connection between him/Piggy is too strong to make it likely they are faking since ...dafuq?

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Was soul going to get lynched day 2 over the jester who was literally TRYING to get himself lynched?

Subtle buddying noted?

Ok, I understand that a PR doesnt clear someone. Im trying to understand if your case on him is still revolving around his PR.

I actually recently read some salamence content (namely his most infamous game) and learned that he is way more likely than any other player to do the fake-fake-dayvig gambit.

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Grey I hope you are town just because I'm sure the scum team is WTFing all over the place in that event.

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Are you voting Sally? If not, choo choo?

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Guess who the least town person is in this dialogue

Spoiler:

voided

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Well ^ THAT was an unexpected response. Here I was expecting "Hurr durr co-mod joke"

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FWIW Im still uncomfortable with the PRs claiming that there is absolutely 0 flavor in their pm

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Piggy is probably town for that post.

Soul is probably town for the spreadsheet analysis (WIFOM and all that good bullshit)

Nobody-special admitting to trying to fake a PR instead of saying he was being a silly, is probably a town tell? Less sure of that.

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Shut up, crime. /drmy. <3

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We were doing so well too.

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Sooooooooooo. The team is SharkGuy/Salamence9001/{BlackIce/VoidWalker}

But then again PM's slot is a wildcard.

Spoiler:

Im so funny

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Hey guys.

I have this awesome pro-town plan.

Its called.

Lynch the ever-loving shit out of Salamence.

Vote him for more details.

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Am I the only that reads KJ's posts and wonders how they deserve even an iota of towncred.

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You do realize that suggesting scum VM doesn't kill MoI is actually WIFOM and not the other way around. Because..the most obvious basic level of benefit would be to kill the person likely to case on you.

Did I just use case as a verb?

Spoiler:

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Oh derp. Im dumb.

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You and Voided are both in that "Wall posty and toasty" grouping in my mind. I get you confused.

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So what you are saying is that the MoI kill makes you obvscum >.>

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Yes. My last point. It pleases me.

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Now this is the story all about how
My Mehdi read got flipped, turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Dirty Cards.

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@Salamence: What the actual fuck. Thumbs up and thumbs down does not even remotely tell me what you are trying to say. You've proven that you aren't super restricted on how you can stretch that, so be more clear.

Mehdi: You talked yourself into being scum via MoI kill spec and your response to me pointing it out was to force some WIFOM on me and ATE my vote due to the people on the Sally wagon? Uhhhhhhhhhh

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Sally, you were aware that Im the only obvtown here (besides maybe piggy).

Anyone with a scum read on me is blowing steam.

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VOTE: soul2277

Choo choo

Pmyst.....

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Actually

vote pmysterious

This is 2 days over due

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Assertiom that pm isnt scum: false.

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And VM did you read mehdis horrible shit?? Moi kill spec makes him scum + bs moi case wifom + ate

[AngryPidgeon]

Pm buddy detected

Pedit: buddies*

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Im on phone and almost out of batteries. Mehdi is so full of it though.

*looks at PM*
*choo choo*

[AngryPidgeon]

Mehdi all kings are scum right? Right. Please to be bussing pm

Pedit: vote pm

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Ah, but PM is scum. Case: his last post

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Dear ScuMehdi,

You flailed (like a baus) earlier today.

Don't you have your damn NS hammer? Or did Sally take that from you (lol)

Pmysterious is probably scum. And via your own logic, the fact that people are willing to lynch him BUT WON'T ACTUALLY DO SO makes him scum. I love you. Hugs and Coffee cakes.

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And that is how the scum team saved PM from a lynch.

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Congratulations, you are now even scummier when he flips town.

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Just kill me tonight, Mehdi. Just do it. You don't need me for the PM lynch anyways.

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Hi Voided. You scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

I'll take that as a no.

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Ns, you're hammered.

[AngryPidgeon]

I think Parama summed this game up the best when he called it a game.

My performance was subpar.

This game seems kind of town-sided. But I'm not really sure I guess.