Mini 1415: Fairly Oddparents Mafia Game Over

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vote: peregrineV

twerp.

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Klick, why is grine town?

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@Vifam: yep.

also Zephyr's town.

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aw hell, I'm bad at this

Mod: Please delete that post

Mod note: Post deleted.

Man, I didn't think anything of the whole tad/chad debacle, but ew ew ew ew that last Zepher post...

Zepher, is Vifam the only scum on your wagon? Who do you think are scum off your wagon? Is there anyone on your wagon you'd give a 'misguided town' pass to?

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Just as a note, I think Zepher is at L-2 right now, L-1 if for some reason the mod counts kiwi's unbolded vote (which he shouldn't, I don't think...)

I think it's too soon for day to end. This game is also likely going to be swingy and I'd rather get more info in the day phase than try to rely on the Lucid Dreamer-ish setup to win the game for us.

Balrog: Do you still think Vifam is scum? (Is he bussing his buddy?)

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I don't see the scum motivation from Vifam here.

this

- Timmy-claim does not dissuade me from a Peregrine lynch/wagon.
- Vifam and Zephyr* are still town.
- ISO'd kiwi and aside from being a little overdefensive I don't see anything of note.
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HumanDestroyer

, you really think Zephyr is scum? What about some other reads?
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Klick

: hey pookie. See above questions.

*other head's opinion pending upon answers to an earlier question

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anyone can post a player list and call people scum or town. I'd like more reasons, zepher.

also vifam is clearly labeled male learn to read please and thank you

Seanald: What do you think of zepher's last 4-6ish posts?

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meh, reads seem to make sense but I still don't like that I had to practically pry them out of him. working on convincing other head but he's stubborn and tbh a zepher lynch isn't likely to go anywhere at this point anyway so mehhhhhh, he's kinda on my backburner as long as there are scumreads other!head and I agree on.

Idk, Still find him town just not one of the stronger players.

Ok. What do you think about the fact that he's been focusing his posts toward survival, or do you disagree with that perception?

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Who wants to lynch -L- with me?

UNVOTE: Zepher, VOTE: -L-

perhaps.

what's your read on peregrine?

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PSA: If you are a towny person thing and you can't keep up with the game, it is more pro-town for you to replace out for someone who

can

keep up than for you to just get mislynched for not having the time/willpower to keep up.

(Vaguely related: I'll take a game with frequent but short posts over less frequent wallposts any ol' day.)

L, you say you don't really have any reads of your own, but then you say that if you were going to have a read it would be based on someone else's analysis/words. Whose analysis/words would you be willing to follow in this game and why? (For the sake of you not getting out of this question easy, let's say you're forced to pick at least one person; more is also fine.)

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...also ugh zepher's 328 looks a lot more townish to me now that I look at it again without my tunnelglasses on, ugh why

I had a buddy for him and everything

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Half of this hydra will be semi-V/LA for the weekend.

Seanald makes a good point in 411, but to counter that: I've been there as town AND scum, so it's really a nulltell.

For -L-, I'll give my typical opinion on lurkers: if it came down to either L vs No Lynch or L vs solid townread, I'd vote her today. Otherwise she's not a good D1 wagon. If she continues to active lurk/not provide content/whatever, that's a different story.

I'll talk to other!head when (s)he gets home to get more input on this situation.

@Klick

: hey again, pookie. Why's HD near-confirmed? I didn't notice that post till Bm quoted it.

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Who was that in response to? Sorry, I'm being slow today.

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welp if we weren't already voting PV I'd be moving my vote right about now

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no reason given on initial vote =! rvs vote

and yeah, we called vifam town because he

is

town. unlike you. suckkk itttttt

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I am a(n allegedly) pretty girl and I like vifam's personality, but I am very taken by my hydra partner :3 srsly though, vifam is one of the more consistently amusing posters on the site imo

I am going to stop spamposting the thread now, byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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sounds like a line for the no-context quotes thread <.<

um, I am kind of drunkposting all over the site right now but I just wanted to pop in and say that this whole vifam/kiwieagle conversation confuses the hell outta me

I want to re-read kiwieagle's case when I'm sober but right now, idk, I think attacking balrog takes more guts than I expect scum!kiwi to have from other games I've seen him in. I'll bug my hydra parntner tomorrow and see about getting a 2nd opinion

PV still scum anyway and almost certainly where our vote is staying through the rest of the day unless something really weird happens soooooooooooooooooo yeah, worry about finding buddies later

speaking of buddies, that reminds me, someone but I forget who was like "hey guise what do you think of seanald?" I forget if I mentioned this earlier or not but I'll reiterate in case I didn't... the way seanald defended vifam for lack of self-preservation but didn't find zepher scummy for pretty much the exact opposit behavior (to be fair he seems to have lessened it as the votes on him died down but still) I thought was really really odd and maybe indicative of zepher-seanald buddies but I also don't think it's worth pursuing too hard unless one of them flips scum as it's kind of a tenuous connection and it's also day 1

but I guess now's a good a time as any to say that if our slot dies at some point and one of zepher/seanald flips scum, give the other one a really close look cuz that seemed fishy to me

other than that, don't really have much of a read on the dude either way tbh. I seem to recall him saying somethign that gave me a weak townie vibe but I can't remember what it was right now and I'm too lazy/drunk to bother going and finding it so until I remember why I thought that I'm gonna call him null

hydra partner is sober but he's at a magic prerelease or something like that so you guys are SOL and stuck with the drunkie

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skimmed the last 5 pages but haven't managed to absorb much, also still pretty tired and probably won't seriously look at the thread till Monday

kiwi is town. bad, but town. I said earlier I didn't really find him scummy, but like my hydra-partner said I can't see the motivation for attacking Vifam

read hasn't changed on PV, HD -could- be scum but I glazed over most of his posts since they were towards the end of the 5 pages I had to catch up on so I'll look later.

glad to see L is offering content now, she's wrong about scum-Balrog though

hate walls. dammit sanjay.

think that's all I have to add for now.

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can we lynch pv yet and end the day so we can make our damn wishes already

please please pretty please with a cherry on top

this day is going to be hell to re-read as it is, we reallllllly don't need it to have 20 more fucking pages before we end it

I don't want to read day one anymore ;_;

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ok cool, people agree with me about ending the day.

now that we're close and something I say might actually stick in people's heads during the night phase, I just want to make a general PSA that nobody should use their wishes to make vig shots imo.

a.) if you get backfired by the scum you might end up shooting yourself in the face
b.) even if you successfully shoot and

even if you're right

, you're depriving us of information that could be gained via votecount analysis.

I will probably hate myself for this announcement later if we're still alive in a 200-page d4 or something crazy, but eh, it needs to be said.

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nothing wrong with our vote history; we're voting scum.

see you in the afterlife

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also you picked a hilariously bad scumteam, sanjay is pretty much the towniest town that I've ever seen town in the history of towny townspeople.

PEDIT: yet again, not overtly stating reasons =! RVS votes, but k, keep slinging mud every which way waiting for something to stick

I mean really? sanjay? that was the best you could do?

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wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee day two (b' ')b

ok so I was having a thought during the night phase and wanted some other opinions: what do you guys think about the idea of claiming whether (and what) we wished? I see some definite pros and some definite cons (which I'm not going to spell out for the lazy/scum just yet), but I wanted to see if the rest of you thought it was a good idea or not.

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@HD: breadcrumbing doesn't mean anything in a game like this. Not when you're the one who decides what you're going to get (or fake getting)...

if you really have a dayvig that should make you confirmable enough, though, so I guess it doesn't matter. If you can't prove you have a dayvig, we LAL, pretty simple \o/

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We attempted to turn Zephyr into a Cult Recruiter.

I'm going to wait for all of you to yell at us now.

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Cult.

The hell is a Town Cult Recruiter?

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If it's like a neighborizer/masonizer, that's just plain boring.

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Attempt as in... as far as I know, the mod accepted our action? We haven't been given any indication that we failed...

@Sanjay: for the lulz.

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@Sanjay: *shrug* I found the idea hilarious.

@HD: I'm confused. English?

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ICanExplain

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can you at least let Zephyr recruit us tonight or something

[edit] WE'RE HERMAPHRODITIC GODDAMMIT

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I suppose I could ask why we, as scum, would claim Cult Recruiter given the situation... I mean there's a million other things we could fakeclaim if we were lying but nope you're saying we basically claimed scum

But I'm guessing you'll all just yell LOL WIFOM so I won't bother

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Is it possible Zephyr and us were backfired OR if there's anyone that wished or something that would muck up the actions?

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*wished for

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nope

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Kill: adorkable

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You will when you're dead

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k cool, get us out of this horrible travesty of an imbalanced game

seriously, the only game I've ever been in that was worse than this was Fringe S3 mafia, and that game had a

fucking scum traitor

in it.

As in, someone who just outed the entire scumteam day one and was considered "playing to his win condition" for it.

Yeahhhhhhhh.

I'm rooting for the cult cuz this game is dumb whooooooooooooooooooo \o/

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I am using my next wish to turn me into this picture.

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female half of adorkable here (the other head is male, so it was kind of annoying to have everyone constantly calling us a she, but I guess at least you guys were half right?) -- I was really, really disappointed to pull scum in this game, and even more disappointed to discover that the balancing was nonexistent.

I'd totally play in an actually balanced version, though.

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One question for the mod: did you ever get the setup reviewed by someone who's been on the site for a while and typically does setup reviews? There's a thread for review requests or you can usually just PM someone like Empking or Hoopla and ask nicely and they'll look it over for you.

Because I have a hard time believing this setup got past an experienced reviewer and if you didn't actually send it to someone, that's something you should prooooooooooooobably make sure you do in the future.

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welp, there you go.

rule number one of modding: get your setup reviewed, even if you don't think it needs it.

lesson hopefully learned for next time, at least?

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hah, I want that role in an actual game.o

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(how did that o get there?)