Mini 1427 - Slenderman Mafia - Game Over

[Lord Mhork]

VOTE: AJ the Epic

For the sake of the wagon.

[Lord Mhork]

So what're you thinking, Serra?

[Lord Mhork]

Hey, Mr_Ree, you're town, right? Not just faking?

Also RVS is silly. What do you make of Serra's vote on fuzzy?

[Lord Mhork]

Oh you so silly.
You should totally recruit me to your cult. It'll be fabulous.

It looks serious in response to fuzzy's silly comment. I'm not sure if that makes fuzzy all that scummy though. What do you think?

[Lord Mhork]

Tch. You've never played my early game, Mr_Ree.

But yeah... Waiting for Serra. *whistles*

[Lord Mhork]

It might be fun. Why did you switch votes?

[Lord Mhork]

AJ, you're not making me feel better about your towniness...

[Lord Mhork]

Yeah. You have wagon. What do you think about that? What do you think of fuzzy's little comment? What do you feel about Serra's new vote?

[Lord Mhork]

UNVOTE: AJ the Epic

VOTE: leviathon

Someone's on edge. Jumpy, leviathon?

[Lord Mhork]

Shit. Misread time stamps. Ah well.

Elaborate on why fuzzy and Serra are both town.

[Lord Mhork]

That's interesting.

Who looks scummy to you right now?

[Lord Mhork]

Actually, his whole use of "I'm town" in this situation makes sense.

-Wagon forms on AJ
-Counterwagon forms
-Since town-AJ would know he is town, he knows the counterwagon is not driven by scum trying to direct the lynch away from their partner.

That's silly. Why would you try to rationalize why someone would say "I'm town."?

*shrug* My vote on Carey is for reaction purposes and to get him to post more, which, so far, besides his OMGUS vote, has not happened, and therefore my vote will remain in place, until he convinces me he wants to help town.

It was reaction all along?

VOTE: CareyHammer
Will this help you post?

'Cause this looks suspiciously like vote parking on someone who was V/LA. Why not try and get a reaction from someone who was actually there?

Sure! Who are the top candidates?

Leviathon and fuzzy are sketch, but you should join the levy wagon with me.

[Lord Mhork]

-.-
Yes. You caught my scum slip. 'Cause I make those...

But seriously, you voted, at worst, a lurker rather than someone who was making posts. What are your reads on people?

[Lord Mhork]

...you wanna put some spine into that accusation or are you gonna leave it dangling there?

[Lord Mhork]

Better.

Back from V/LA.

So, what's happening?

[Lord Mhork]

Prolly 'cause he's yet to confirm.

[Lord Mhork]

but this... [quotes serrapaladin] is an understandable point.

Which is what makes it scummy and a misrep. Scum will twist words because they aren't 100% clear and present an opportunity. Does not fly.
He puts words in your mouth then says "woah dude I was just asking a question." Does not fly.
Now he's trying to engage me in an attempt at defining how he can get away with this nonsense later if he isn't lynched now. Does not fly.

I'm not a serrapaladin fan right now and feel better about my vote with each post.

I very much agree with this

UNVOTE:
VOTE: serrapaladin

I'm just gonna point out that this is bad and y'all should wagon levy with me instead of Serra.

Also I'm pretty sure that there is more than one mafia man, purely based on the idea that mafia's advantage is to be the informed minority, implying a teammate. A 1 on 10 situation just sounds silly.

[Lord Mhork]

^^^^^ and your reason for it being bad IS?

just because you say something is bad doesn't mean it is. i see no way how it can be bad. I agree with serrapaladin twisting my words.

to me, i switched my vote from someone i had nothing on to someone that did something that i deem as possibly scummy and since i don't have a scum read on anyone else at the moment. serra paladin works for me.

It was a jump on a wagon with nothing more than a +1 to the guy before you. Do you really have nothing more solid than 'he could possible have twisted my words.'

@Yates, in the Inbetweeners I was in one of two scum teams

Ah right. I forgot there were two scum teams in that game. I feel better about your benchmark.

Re: AJ - I've only been in one game with him that I can recall. Aj The Epic was confirmed VT when I replaced in and died that night so I don't have much in terms of meta knowledge on him. I think you may be slightly jaded towards AJ due to his RVS vote on you so keep that in mind as you assess his play. I think characterizing his "I know myself to be Town" statement when giving the logic behind his stance in post 45 as a "softclaim" is a farce. Honestly, the only "questionable" post he has made was his "sarcasm" post. I didn't read that as sarcastic in the slightest either, given that he voted with me in the same breath. That said, he is agreeing with me on a player I have been unimpressed with thus far so I'm not judging that too harshly and appreciate the wagon support.

I kind of think you guys are barking up the wrong tree with SP and/or Fuzzybuttern,uts so I won't be too offended if you think I'm doing the same.

I will admit that the biggest "hole in my swing" mafia wise would be derp play. I often find it incredibly difficult to distinguish between bad play and scum play when logic is all but nonexistant. I was most recently in 0 Percent Flavor with -L- and HD, as an example. I had a hard on to get Monkeyman lynched Day 1. People convinced me I was on a witch hunt and that he was just derp. As a result he lived until Day 4 and guess what? =4711737]He was scum. Conversely, -L- played like a complete tool. I ended up switching my vote to her Day 1 and helped =4665635]lynch our Gunsmith. Honestly, as bad as -L- was playing that probably ended up being part of the reason we won in retrospect but it didn't make me happy. I don't think I ever voted for scum HD that game, btw, which shows you that I can sometimes be equally fooled by competent play. *shrug*

So I guess what I'm saying is that I think serra is scummy/playing poorly enough that his lynch could be good for Town one way or the other in lieu of an obviously superior lynch candidate. So, I'm comfortable with his wagon unless you can convince me that you have a way better lynch candidate.

Isn't it a little early to be discussing which lynch, town or scum, can be informative?

I'm just gonna point out that this is bad and y'all should wagon levy with me instead of Serra.

While we're discussing meta: Levvy has an interesting complex of making moves that makes you want to slap him or yourself. I played against him in a bonsai (tree stump) game. It was incredibly weird, to say the least, since he sheeped the conftown so hard, when I replaced in, I was massively worried about him. With him, you basically have to go "Would average scum players do this?" and walk through what it would gain him for doing so. Yeah, sheeping Yates, but I've seen him do this before. I eventually lost the game by sitting him in L-1 thinking he was scum.

I don't understand what you're trying to tell me here. Can you use smaller words for my aching head? >.<

calling people town as a general acceptance is a good way to get that person killed.

Quoted for truth. Part of the reason I started posting with a more surly demeanor is because I was becoming obvtown too soon and getting killed N1 or N2. By not pulling punches I've found that I get better results even if people aren't super happy with my "no kids gloves" demeanor. Also, scum seem to think I'm mislynch bait as a result. Also, I'm sometimes wrong which makes scum even more sure they can get me mislynched or try to get me to focus on their Town mislynch du jour.

As an aside - That's that uncomfortable feeling that you can't explain, fuzzy, so stop being dumb and accept I could be scum. You don't know. Or do you?

>_>
Are you seriously saying that you want to play scummy to avoid taking the bullet for the town?

[Lord Mhork]

Too scummy to be scum isn't a very reliable tell. And if he's really that bad, he'll be a hindrance come LyLo and should die quickly.

[Lord Mhork]

Hi there, Mr. Defensive.

I was simply pointing out that 'he's really scummy as town' is NOT an acceptable reason to ignore scummy play.

[Lord Mhork]

Ensure*

You could start by looking really, really townie.

[Lord Mhork]

The fact you said 'my side' rather than 'the town' has been noted, signed, and documented in triplicate. Good job there, pal.

[Lord Mhork]

What do you mean question you for lying?

@Mod:
Can we get a prod/replacement on -L-?

[Lord Mhork]

What do you mean question you for lying?

@Mod:

Can we get a prod/replacement on -L-?

[Lord Mhork]

So you fear pressure. Is that what you're saying?

[Lord Mhork]

Can't detail post right now because I'm working on a paper, but I'm just chiming in to say that 'too scummy to be scum' is a bullshit reason to not be wagoning levy here.

[Lord Mhork]

Awesome. That's how you play this game, you know. Just scream how town you are and then laugh because no one listened to your lack of evidence. >_>

[Lord Mhork]

Yeah you're gonna die. Sorry, pal, but that ain't gonna fly. Analysis is kinda necessary.

Also lots of people are honest in this game. I don't like your little AtE there. :/

PEdit:
You know what else helps town lynch scum? It's radical and I'm not sure you're ready to hear it, but here I go: scum hunting. Thats the key. It's more that just proclaiming that you're town and telling town to look at your wagon afterward. You claim scum is on your wagon? Who's the scum then?

[Lord Mhork]

And you see the issue with playing badly is that there's always the chance that you've got all the town behind your lynch, screwing over your team.

[Lord Mhork]

...so it's the town being stupid if they lynch you for looking scummy as all hell? How is that even?! >.<

Who's the scum on your wagon?

[Lord Mhork]

Hah. Funny you mention slimer, 'cause it was after playing with him I resolved to never excuse people as too scummy to be scum.

[Lord Mhork]

Cheers to limited access. Sorry all.

[Lord Mhork]

V/LA for the next four days.

[Lord Mhork]

Totally limited access still. Sorry all.

Carey's replacing out? Swell. Maybe levy can too. >.<

A little voice in my head says that I should go for the L-1 to give the replacement incentive to make good thoughts. I'm not sure yet.

And has the town really consolidated a too scummy to be scum read on levy?

[Lord Mhork]

Working on it, pal. Unfortunately it's not a one man job.

[Lord Mhork]

What the hell is going on? We're lynching safety? A dude who's actually being relatively useful? Over levy or carey? What is this even?

And the Carey now posting? I say we lynch him to save mod the trouble of finding two replacements. There's something sketch as all fuck about a guy who replaces out and then makes a vote. Looks like scum who got upset the game was going against then and wanted out before seeing an easy mislynch.

VOTE: Careyhammer

There is no way a safety lynch is better than this in any way, shape, or form.

[Lord Mhork]

That's nice Carey. 'cept you're scum. Guaranteed 100% here.

Hi, levy. Still more useful than you.

[Lord Mhork]

Look, levy. I'll be looking at safety tomorrow without a doubt. However while you claim he's been useless, both you and carey have been worst than useless. At best you've been a distraction and at worst you're manipulating the towns focus. Neither of which proves that a lurker lynch is the better.

Plus I'm convinced the more smilies you use, the closer we are to breaking through to your scummy inside.

More on topic, though, how 'bout y'all join me in lynching carey who committed the tell of trying to replace out before finding an awesome mislynch opportunity?

[Lord Mhork]

This is why you will die as soon as Carey flips scum. You guys are totally scum buddies together.

And shut the hell up Carey. Either play the game or GTFO.

Another note for all y'all out there--notice how Carey wants his replacement to have time to defend himself. Why would a townie think like that? He wouldn't. This is scum wanting to bail ship without completely screwing over his buddy. It's poor scum play, but it's still scum play.

[Lord Mhork]

Replacing out is antitown in this instance. Quit posting.

[Lord Mhork]

Yes. 'Cause scum is that transparent.

You're worse than scum if you're town, though, because there's a penalty for leaving you alive and no reward for killing you. Don't kid yourself; you'd make a great lynch. At the moment, though, Carey is much better due to the obv scum tells.

[Lord Mhork]

And it is really pissing me off that you're acting so aggressively anti town and then flipping it like this is all my fault. You are the worst form of VI. >.<

I'm done talking to you tonight.

[Lord Mhork]

Well this is awkward, Ms Margle, but you're getting lynched. Final thoughts?

[Lord Mhork]

Will respond to ms Margaret as soon as I hit computer but I got two words for all y'all playing at home:

AMISH TELL.

[Lord Mhork]

...huh, Human? I don't understand your point...

Margie, zip it. You, levy, and Carey make me feel like I'm playing in newbie land again.

PEdit:
It refers to some dude who originally committed it, I think.

[Lord Mhork]

I'm not the right target, and according to the vote count I still have three more votes to go before I'm lynched. I still have a fighting chance, so I have reason to believe that I may not even be the one who's lynched. Fresh into the game, and already I have Mhork as a suspect, though I'll have to read through the game first to get a feel for what's going on.

First off, bad opening post. 'Not the right target' is bad phrasology, as is 'fighting chance.' Those are not townie terms, but rather terms from scum trying to reason that their lynch is a bad one.

Also there is awesome OMGUS. 'You suspect me? How dare you! You're clearly scum pushing my lynch!'

.... are we sure Fuzzy is town? I mean, I'm on page 14 and I have yet to see town play from him... the same thing for Mhork, and Yates wouldn't be to bad a target either. HD, Levi, and Aj are OBV town though, and anyone who is trying to say otherwise is funny as fuck.

and I'm not getting the case against SafetyDance, someone care to bring me up to speed on that?

oh, and feel free to call me purple if you can't spell my user correctly :/

More 'hey how is Mhork town?' without explaining why I'm scummy.

Elaborate on the obv town reads.

Levi has a very care-free aura about the game. almost as if he doesn't give a shit about the game, and doesn't give a shit about being suspected. He's taken his stance on his targets, and isn't letting anyone else sway him from what he believes even if his POV doesn't exactly match up with the views of the majority. he's been consistent in his play so far, all these things point to him being town.

I should have done this earlier but UNVOTE:

if that's the case, the safety case is retarded as fuck, and I would have agreed with the Carey wagon... if I didn't replace in.

I skimmed through the game, and I have noticed two wagons being formed due to inactivity. Yours and Safety, those two wagons intrigue me greatly. I'm going to see if there are similarities between the two. scum pushing those wagons is likely, though if they were pushing it, they might have done so without actually voting.

@Mod, pushing the deadline back would be much appreciated. I would like to have more time to build my own cases in this game

Carefree =/= town. In fact he's more or less admitted that he's being antitown and is cool with it because it's our fault for pushing him. How is this town? At all? And stubbornness is also not a town tell. A lot of time scum keep contrary reads to the majority so they can take advantage of possible mislynches. If he doesn't give a shit about the game, he should replace out. Period.

Also the Amish Tell. Fabulously noting her predecessor's scumminess. Margie needs to die, and now.

Also, Carey continuing to lurk in this thread after replacing out is setting off alarm bells. There's a good chance I'll put my vote right back on Marangal barring some serious quality posting.

I'm gonna go ahead and give a +1 to this. Carey was being totally obvious about maintaining an interest in this, likely because he's scum that was having issues with trying not to be too obvscummy and now wants to see how his replacement is learning.

aaannnnddd.... I found a connection between the two inactive wagons. Love it, I knew there was a reason I was uneasy with Yates.

Serra was Yates choice for the vote, but... he really only spent one post on him, and avoided him while picking up details about every other person in the game to make them look as scummy as possible. Yates was also an advocate for the Safety wagon, though his vote on Carey so that he looked a bit more helpful in town eyes as it's better to get rid of a VI instead of a lurker who may have the possibility of being smart town.

more recently though, I feel as if he is trying to come up with an excuse to continue my wagon, he even took the time to screen-cap and do a paint job to prove that Carey was lurking after being replaced.

Margie's making things up without citing evidence and has forgotten to explain the scum read on me.

you are scumtastic

I was wrong about you only spending one post on Serra, but you were an advocate for the safety wagon. a very subtle one, but still one.

more on this soon though so stay tuned as I write out your Iso

This is stupid. What about the bigger advocates?

Wall 486 is a joke. I especially loved when it just devolved into buzzwords. Also when she said that he had a decent town post. No wait. My absolute favourite was when she NEVER EXPLAINED ANYTHING.

Holy shit that wall..O_O

Seriously. And it says nothing. This is what we like to call a "smoke screen." Might work in Road to Rome but doesn't cut mustard here.

It also doesn't hide the fact that your post 482 was complete garbage and I just blew it up in 485. So, pretending like your attempts at misrepping me didn't happen is really not sliding.

+1

Holy shit that wall..O_O

Seriously. And it says nothing. This is what we like to call a "smoke screen." Might work in Road to Rome but doesn't cut mustard here.

It also doesn't hide the fact that your post 482 was complete garbage and I just blew it up in 485. So, pretending like your attempts at misrepping me didn't happen is really not sliding.

uhhhh. false that huge wall DOES say somethings. just because it announces out in the open your mistakes in playing the game and could be a hint at alignment (scum if her read is correct which is a bold accusation to make) doesn't mean she is wrong in her analysis.

and saying she simply doesn't know what she is talking about is NOT an argument. you don't PUSH out evidence and analysis JUST BECAUSE you don't think a person doesn't know what they are talking about because to every bit of denial there is slight truth to the statement.

by claimining that she doesn't know what she is talking about you are trying to make her disposable and if she is town which I thought CARREYHAMMER was and that position still to be now, i would see you as being a good scum suspect. telling someone they are don't know what they are talking about is trying to make everything she says seem like nothing when there could be important information we are missing. not a pro town thing to do.

Carrey is town. Ms. Marangal is town. there i said it. listen to everyone's input and judge it all on equal footing. hear the evidence but you don't necessarily have to agree.

I've found that every time I read a post you write, it pisses me off to no extent. You might as well be hawkleader, 'cause you just dig into me.

The wall says jack shit. It's nothing more than buzzwords designed to look like Margie was playing the game and making reads out of substance where there was no substance. Her analysis is wrong because there's no analysis there.

Denial has traces of truth? That's silly. And it's completely fair to write people off as though they don't know what they're doing. For instance I've tuned out your votes, and the only reason I'm answering this is because it talks about Margarine.

She is disposable, as are you. If she's town, both she and Careyhammer deserve the rope, though Careyhammer more so for throwing this game hard. I'm getting a chainsaw defense type of feel here, but I can't believe that both of our scum would be the two most obviously scummy players on the board.

Why are they town? Don't you dare cite 'too scummy to bed scum' or I will reach through this screen and tear your throat out whilst simultaneously Dayvigging, autolynching, and modkilling you for good measure. -.-

You know, I'd personally rather lynch Fuzzy or Ree than bother with either of Yates or Ms Marangal right now. Personally, the walls need to end. There's too much quoted without spoilers. Marangal, misrep is a specific instance where a player puts words into another's mouth either by lying or twisting. What Yates does is he accuses.Yeah, that might involve twisting words, but as long as it remains a direct accusation, it isn't a misrep.

Explain this. Why not the obv scum? Also useless walls need to end. Walls of substance are fine...

TL;DR penguins are our glorious overlords and Ms Marglerargle is still scum.

[Lord Mhork]

Explain this. Why not the obv scum? Also useless walls need to end. Walls of substance are fine...

obvscum is never obv. The fact that carey was watching is some outside force we cannot account for. And personally, I still believe Ree to be far more likely scum than CH/Marangal.

Um...

Carey watching would be completely irrelevant to the slot's scumminess; he replaced out due to being anti-town, not for lurking.

I'm gonna answer both these by pointing out Carey's vote before he was replaced whilst waiting for replacement. That

bleeds

scum.

[Lord Mhork]

STOP IT FUZZY! LYNCH MARGIE WITH ME PLEASE AND THEN I WILL GIVE YATES A SECOND GLANCE. I PROMISE.

I think I, like, legitimately hate you. If you are somehow town and lose this game for us, I will forever blacklist you from everything forever amen.

There are no lame reasons for voting Margie. They're all legitimate reasons that are being brushed off by you two fucking idiots. Too scummy to be scum is not a fucking town tell. You are a complete and utter asinine moron troll for playing like this. You give no reason for Marg-town other than 'lol scum wuld nvr do this lol =)' and it is pissing me off. You are not a good player. You are the worst I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with because you recognize what you're doing is unhelpful and you're still doing it.

WE WILL GET USE OUT OF PRESSURE. SHE IS SCUM. THERE IS NO FUCKING DEAD END. IT'S ONLY DEAD ENDED BECAUSE OF GIGANTIC EVASION AND A DEAD PLAYER BASE. THERE IS NO SUBCONCIOUS ABOUT IT.

AND FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU.
DO YOU THINK MAYBE YOU GET LYNCHED BECAUSE YOU'RE AN INSUFFERABLE TOOL WHO PLAYS ANTITOWN HARD FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES? I TOLD YOU SO DOESN'T HELP WHEN EVERYONE, TOWN AND SCUM, AGREES THAT YOU WERE THE SHITTIEST EXCUSE FOR AN ANTITOWN VILLAGE IDIOT THEY HAD EVER SEEN.

Leave. Leave now. Your reasons are bad and you should feel bad. I'm seriously weighing how much it would hurt the town if I just stopped reading anything you posted. Just shut up until you have something intelligent to post.

PEdit:
Fuzzy, vote scum with me. It'll be fun. I promise.

[Lord Mhork]

Thanks Yates.

You're voting Margie, right?

@Everyone not voting margret:

Why?

[Lord Mhork]

Oh yeah. The rant was to levy, in case people were confused.

[Lord Mhork]

Oh yeah. The rant was to levy, in case people were confused.

[Lord Mhork]

Why was my greeting bad?

[Lord Mhork]

This isn't a matter of play style. This is you trolling and being diliberately anti town.

I have decided that I'm gonna just explain how you're being anti town whenever you post. There's a fair compromise.

Again you're not a bad player 'cause you disagree. It's how you're playing.

[Lord Mhork]

Sympathy? How in the hell was 'you're getting lynched' sympathetic?

Levy you're being purposely dense. If you can't see how you're being anti town, I recommend you return to newbie games for awhile.

No. Margie.

[Lord Mhork]

IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU DISAGREEING WITH ME. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE FOR TWENTY MINUTES AND LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE PLAYING.

You aren't being a team player. You've admitted on multiple occasions that you're favourite part of the game is the 'I told you so.' Your cases consist of 'he is town. Too scummy to be scum. Town deserves to lose if they can't see this. How does this help town win. Actually build cases and work to better the unit. If this is too much for you, then yes. You deserve to die. This is not a game of how right you can be. It's a game of lynching scum. Figure that out and then you'll stop getting policy lynched. You are currently anti town and a liability.

PEdit:
Town to scum rankings are incredibly anti town. Quit being anti town and lyncg margie. We don't have time to duck around and find someone new.

[Lord Mhork]

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
You're not listening. This is why you're bad. You are a selfish child. That is the only way I can describe your play style. You are a stupid, whiny, arrogant child who thinks that he's right and everyone is out to get him when in reality you stubbornly can't see your shit play. You can't play this all by ear. You're not that good. You get lynched because you an insufferable tool. Insufferable, as in you cause suffering to those around you who just want to play. I repeat, you're not that good. If you were, we wouldn't be discussing this.

Fuck you. Screw you. STFU. GTFO. I can't phrase it in enough different ways. Cogete.

Scum to town lists give scum information on who to kill. It informs then who is never gonna get lynched and makes their job easier. It doesn't give town close to enough information to make up for the amount it gives scum. That's why it's antitown.

Fuck you for thinking I'm that spiteful to hurt the town just to disagree with you.

[Lord Mhork]

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
You're not listening. This is why you're bad. You are a selfish child. That is the only way I can describe your play style. You are a stupid, whiny, arrogant child who thinks that he's right and everyone is out to get him when in reality you stubbornly can't see your shit play. You can't play this all by ear. You're not that good. You get lynched because you an insufferable tool. Insufferable, as in you cause suffering to those around you who just want to play. I repeat, you're not that good. If you were, we wouldn't be discussing this.

Fuck you. Screw you. STFU. GTFO. I can't phrase it in enough different ways. Cogete.

Scum to town lists give scum information on who to kill. It informs then who is never gonna get lynched and makes their job easier. It doesn't give town close to enough information to make up for the amount it gives scum. That's why it's antitown.

Fuck you for thinking I'm that spiteful to hurt the town just to disagree with you.

[Lord Mhork]

Oh, Margie... Your words touch me... I still want you dead, but slightly less now. :/

[Lord Mhork]

I kinda want to lynch levy too for so easily acquiescing. Ah well. On step at a time.

[Lord Mhork]

No, AJ. I don't think fuzzy is scum. Not yet.

Levy, whatever.

PEdit:
Scum reads and why, marge.

[Lord Mhork]

@Mod:

Please remove Carey. Also if repercussions are available, that's be nice.

Serra, it's me not even thinking about anyone other than levy or Margie right now. It's deadline and we need a lynch. Yates will stall out to a no lynch or force another claim, neither of which is helpful.

Marge also committed the Amish tell and whatnot. You can read that one post where I broke down why I found her scummy in spite of Carey.

Again, we don't have time to sidetrack. We need a lynch soon.

Also off topic, I hope to see you in some other game, Ms Marangal. You see chill and fairly smart. I like you.

[Lord Mhork]

If it makes you feel better, sure.

Honestly I hope you're scum. No town should be saddled with this kind of newb town.

[Lord Mhork]

Have you ever given thought to why? >.<

[Lord Mhork]

Amished tell is bullshit because a) female and b) extenuating circumstances of Carey sucking A LOT.

Mhork, what do you mean by "Yates forcing another claim"?

Deadline isn't THAT close. It's not a particularly large game, so I don't see too much of a No Lynch problem.

Hey levi, if you're never NKed but often mislynched you might want to reflect upon that...also good job anticipating Ms M's town flip! Fairly common noobscum twilight behavior, but you seem to be jumping the gun a bit.

I'd be willing to compromise on either fuzzy or levi for semi-policy reasons.

I don't much care for the case on Ms Marangal, and as I see her separate from Carey, I probably won't vote her.

Explain the female thing.

Margie already claimed VT.

You can't see a replacement as a completely separate entity.

Sorry guys, had a competition today. (Placed 2nd!)

No, AJ. I don't think fuzzy is scum. Not yet.

Levy, whatever.

PEdit:
Scum reads and why, marge.

Not liking this too much. Seems like you're setting up a lynch for later.

Ms. M isn't looking too good to me either, and i'm also bothered at why AJ wants to lynch me so much. He knows my play style.

It's called deadline tunneling. I'd need to check you further, but you seem townish.

Then I totally dozed off and stopped reading closely. I like newearth, though. He feels townish.

Amished tell is when you criticize your predecessor, you're probably scum.

Tell doesn't work on girls though for some reason :/

I don't understand this.

I've GIVEN my legitimate reads~~~

AJ TOWN
HUMAN TOWN
YATES SCUM
Marangal TOWN
Safetydance SCUM
Serrapaladin TOWN
MR. RHEE Null
Thenewearth--probably TOWN
Fuzzybuttnuts---NULL
Lord mhork. NULL

My reads! all gut! not good at the whole analysis thing. i've said that!

GIVE REASONS. GUT DOESN'T COUNT.

More tuning out...

Day kill is bad. 'Specially since there was still a real wagon happening. >_>
It really should have been used on levy...

[Lord Mhork]

It really should have been used on levy...

I PRAISE THE LORD MHORK FOR THY GREATNESS

I am the Lord thy mod. Thou shalt have no other mods before me.

[Lord Mhork]

Well the "amished" tell won't work on the opposite gender.

The nature of men ain't at all the same as the nature of women.

Oh you sillies. Don't you know that all people on the Internet are actually males? Do not cite gender as a reason to ignore a tell.

[Lord Mhork]

Exactly.

But yeah. I wanna see some tried and true reasoning before I just toss the amish tell.

[Lord Mhork]

Why am I scum, fuzzy?

[Lord Mhork]

UNVOTE: Ms Marangal

I believe the town reactions even in spite of Corey. For now.

Also I accidentally was durdling around and found another of levy's games where he was town. This is literally the first time I've ever meta'd someone.

Anyway here it is. Look at posts 82 and 86 where he is actually trying to play abs rationalize reads. He's making no such effort this game while trying to coast.

VOTE: leviathan93

[Lord Mhork]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=25538

That was the thread.

[Lord Mhork]

You were actually saying things instead of just pissing around like this came.

[Lord Mhork]

How are we too late. Levy is an easy switch and, regardless, he's hurting the town.

Plus there's no way in hell I'm losing to this type of scum game.

[Lord Mhork]

totally, newearth! We can do it!

And, levy, why do you think that I'm some arrogant asshole that doesn't like you? That's not what's happening. You're just upset I found some meta suggesting that you're not always as useless as you're being now.

[Lord Mhork]

You should read that game I posted, Marangal. Levy only has, like, 3 posts in it, but it looks like he's actually trying there.

[Lord Mhork]

i don't fucking destroy town! especially if no one listens to me. =P

Bullshit. You do destroy the town 'cause you say nothing useful and expect everyone to believe in you like you are an Innocent Child. All the problems today have been caused by

you.

[Lord Mhork]

uhhh. that was a misrep. =P i was referring to the game that mhork brought about my meta and my play where i got lynched when i was the cop because no one would believe me.

Bullshit. You were hammered by opportunistic scum before you could claim. You're lying now trying to draw similarities. Lynch all liars.

unfortunately yes. which is why id prefer not to get lynched. not the cop though. i'm pro-town though.

Bullshit. Crumbs or GTFO. This claim is trash.

[Lord Mhork]

He's lying. He's not a power role. He scum trying to weasel out of getting counterclaimed.

[Lord Mhork]

I have absolutely nothing to answer for. Levy deserved to die because he was and is anti town and 100% scum. His claim is fake, his 'towniness' is fake, and he is going to be the reason that we lose this game.

Calling it now. AJ/levy scum team ftl!

Sorry about you dying, fuzzy. I thought you were townie, at least.

[Lord Mhork]

Calling it now. AJ/levy scum team ftl!

Says the one who was trying to force a claim out of another player when the main wagon was at l-1... Nice misdirection.

Fuck you. You're making things up. I didn't want a claim from levy, 'cause he has nothing to claim. I wanted him to die. You're confusing me with other people who wanted him to claim.

[Lord Mhork]

If there's a Vig, please kill levy. I will bake you cookies and donuts if you do.

Go be anti town elsewhere, levy.

[Lord Mhork]

Hey, new earth. Wanna be the founding member of the cult of Mhork?

[Lord Mhork]

to be fair Aj, Mhork wasn't the only one to attempt to derail the main wagon. Serra tried to keep mine from going through, and you tried to keep yates from going through.

Different circumstances bring different motives. I can show exchanges in this thread that show Levi to be town as day.

I also believe Yates to be scum and am unwilling to lynch you off based on Carey's VI-ness. Therefore, I pushed a 100x better lynch, taking care of one possible VI, one we don't know the alignment of, and keeping the town one who says he's a power role.

And I'm also not the one toting to have a PR shot. Mhork, what the hell are you even doing? You don't ask to vig a crumbing power role.

Don't worry, AJ. I'm not trying to shoot a PR. I'm telling them to shoot levy.

[Lord Mhork]

Oh! Oh! I'm a day recruiting cult leader!

I've read every bit of the trash he's posted, AJ. The fact remains that his play is garbage and he's a hindrance better shot than left alive. He's been BSing this whole game. And I never said he was a scum mastermind. Quite the opposite; he's a scum idiot.

[Lord Mhork]

I was trying. As soon as she accepts it, I get to deliver her to the Slender Man and I will be free, turning into a miller treestump with a lyncher win condition on Leviathan.

[Lord Mhork]

AJ, levy is lying scum. He's bullshitting the town and deserves to die. Now.
VOTE: leviathan93

[Lord Mhork]

He's playing like shit and deliberately throwing the town for loops. I've seen a game where he played better. Slightly better, yes, and he was still speedlynched for his anti towniness, but better nonetheless. He actually tried whereas now I'm seeing an über bad, trolling scum laughing at how he's got the town so amazingly fooled.

[Lord Mhork]

Let him claim, and he better have awesome night results. None of this 'I was roleblocked' or 'I copped newearth' shenanigans.

[Lord Mhork]

Let him claim, and he better have awesome night results. None of this 'I was roleblocked' or 'I copped newearth' shenanigans.

I wasn't role blocked because i didnt DO anything during the night. i'm not a doctor, cop, or really anything of that sort.

Why?

also, as I said before. I have no idea why i'm alive, but i'm guessing its because scum wants to make me look bad and have town think that I lied and therefore make me claim and or lynch me.

I also don't even understand why people want to out PR's in the first place. Its never a good idea. it only benefits scum.

You're not a Power Role. Why do you care?

lol. i totally don't do that. =P its not even bull shit. everyone else just thinks it is which is isn't.

i disagree with if town asks you to claim you claim. If i am vanilla I don't care. but if I am a PR then I don't claim unless i'm going to be lynched. I'm very rarely a PR and have never been a scum PR.

I come out and claim town early all the time in my games unless I am scum. and I always get lynched as town. NEVER as scum. guess my scum play is better then my town play and I honestly don't understand that because I don't differ my strategies or my play at all.

I do have a vote and I KNOW who scum is. Its Safetydance! i know this BECAUSE of my PR role. I knew it that as flavor before the game even started and have been trying to convince everyone other wise. I seriously swear. lynch or kill safety dance and he WILL turn up scum. if I am wrong LYNCH ME THEN AND I WILL GO QUIETLY!

I say we throw him to L-1 and then demand a claim. Failing that, scum quickhammers. It's a win-win.

Also what about your role, Mr. No-Cop.

tell us why dammit

uhh. fuck no. either trust me or lynch me, and find out at the end of the game, but if I go before HE does i won't go quietly.

You're a moron.

VOTE: safetydance

This is bad. Normal PRs with confirmed scum throw their vote immediately.

Okie dokie. I'm not sure where to start. No claim from Levi unless he hits L-1. Would be nice to know but no need to reveal anything needlessly.

Would like to hear from safety before proceeding. In the meantime, I'm going to start looking at yesterday's wagons.

@SP: why Yates?
@Mhork: how would the claim benefit you?

It benefits town because it reveals his lie and lets us lynch scum.

Also he can't just say 'this guy is scum because my PR said so' and then not give said PR. That's not the way this works.

Ree, situation differs here. I don't want to vote for him and hang him at L-1 especially if he is claiming cop like he's crumbing. Too easy for then a confirmed scum SD to hammer him off and force us to lynch him tomorrow when he's expended the cop. I'd rather simply have a majority say they'd like the claim and that act as a vote instead of literal votes.

He said he wasn't a cop though. He flat out said that. Why would town lie?

That being said, I am heavily in favour a claim.

wait... did I just read that Levi doesn't want to help town in 1072 or am I hallucinating?

He's never wanted to help town. He flat out said. Repeatedly. 'Cause he's a horrible player.

You're also of no help now, because no one believes you, and you will be of absolutely no help if you die before full claiming.

no one ever believes me. =P thats not my fault. =) and wrong. I have given you all the necessary tools to lynch scum. no one wants to use them because they just don't believe they will actually work.

i'm trying to help town here. as i said. lynch me AFTER safety dance. thats all I ask.

YOU PIECE OF SHIT STOP TRYING TO THROW THIS ON THE TOWN. NO ONE BELIEVES YOU BECAUSE FROM THE MOMENT YOU SET FOOT IN THIS GAME YOU WERE AN ANTITOWN HINDRANCE WITH NO WISH TO HELP TOWN. ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS LAUGH AT TOWN FAILING TO WIN WHETHER YOU'RE TOWN OR NOT BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY SHOULD ALL SEE THE OBVTOWN THAT BLEEDS FROM YOU. BUT THERE IS NO OBVTOWN. IT'S ONLY OBVANTITOWN. YOU'VE GIVEN NO TOOLS TO LYNCH SCUM. ALL YOU'VE SAID IS THAT YOU'VE GOT SOME MAGIC ROLE THAT GAVE YOU CONFIRMED SCUM IN A GAME WHERE THERE IS, AT MOST, LIKELY TWO SCUM AND THEN DECIDED NOT PURSUE THE CONFIRMED SCUM. BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT. BULLLLLLLLLLLLSHIT.

Yeah. So there is my $0.02.

By the way, quit complaining that you will be rendered useless. Useless is a step up for you.

VOTE: SafetyDance

I recall Ree being ridiculously white-knighty with fuzzy yesterday. He needs to eat rope too.

levi is so painfully town I don't even understand why you aren't believing him at this point.

Levi/HumanDestroyer 2013!

I keep hearing more and more bullshit every time. What mod gives a guilty to a pr before an investigation on a day 1?

THIS mod apparently. =P but fine if you don't believe me, then just ignore me and go about the game as usual. and you will find out how wrong all y'all are at the end. =) or just simply when safety dance never dies during the night and you wonder why OR he gets vigged if there are any and turns up scum. =)

You are horrible. Absolutely 100% the worst player I have ever had the displeasure of playing with. I forget if I've said this, but you are going on my blacklist for modded games and my 'absolutely no way in hell am I playing with guy. Sorry, pal, I need to replace out' list. Congrats on being the first on both.

But seriously, why do you hate us so much. What did we do that made you decide that you wanted town to lose so badly?

tl;dr
levy should claim, even though he's scum. I wanna know what role he supposedly has.

[Lord Mhork]

Hugs for you, serra.

[Lord Mhork]

I know, but I can dream. I'm almost feeling Mr_Ree scum. Is that weird?

[Lord Mhork]

My head is gonna explode.

@Mod:
Can levy be replaced for playing against his win condition and flat out admitting that he like laughing at the town as they lose?

Failing that, can we have him replaced because more than half the list doesn't wanna play with him?

[Lord Mhork]

Maybe not. I'm not sure, but I think Margie is town...

[Lord Mhork]

I got no dick to suck though.

You're either scum or really bad town. And I'm leaning towards scum, because I feel town would at least try to change his terribad play.

PEdit:
You should consider taking it up.

[Lord Mhork]

Margie is right. I don't hate anyone.

PEdit:
Claiming would confirm you as town and confirm someone else as scum. That seems like a pretty cool trade to me.

[Lord Mhork]

Hey, Safety, quit lurking and start posting.

PEdit:
Don't hate you. Hate your play. Difference.

[Lord Mhork]

Wait, claim scum? Hang on...

[Lord Mhork]

now THAT would be playing against my win condition. =P

its not MY fault you hate my play. =P i don't hate any of YOUR guys' play. =P I could care less how you play the game as long as you play it.

Theory 3:
Levy is the Slender Man. This is a setup with 1 SK, 2 Mafia, and 8 Town. Slender Man knows a mafia, but the incentive is not to out them 'cause then he'll get shot and killed. It's for endgame shenanigans.

This also means awesome flavour where Slendy isn't the baddie, but rather two of our own group who wants us dead. That would be an awesome flavour.

PEdit:
Take all my hearts. <3
You're one of my favourites now. Up there with Om Nom and Shadoweh, wherever she went.

[Lord Mhork]

Slendy is directing them, but after they're done delivering us to him, he turns on them.

It's funny 'cause he'd be like the Godfather or whatever, but is secretly third party.

PEdit:
That almost a reasonable claim. So we lynch Safety, and then lynch levy tomorrow?

[Lord Mhork]

Yay!

However I wait for Safety's rebuttal, 'cause I'm a nice dude and feel like making him answer for his lack of activity.

[Lord Mhork]

Why lynch you first? That doesn't help. Scum have to waste their kill recruiting you, or ignore you altogether and kill someone else and we keep an Innocent Child. What's wrong here?

[Lord Mhork]

There needs to be a third, or Slendy is still out there. I don't think 2-9 is very balanced...

[Lord Mhork]

Interesting. Why were you told his name? What's the flavour?

[Lord Mhork]

No no. Not the rules. What's your name? Why are you a traitor? What's your favourite color?

[Lord Mhork]

Racism? Interesting. I don't wanna kill levy any more right now.

UNVOTE: leviathan93

VOTE: SafetyDance

You got a lot to answer for, pal.

[Lord Mhork]

Can we have Masky and Hoody? Or did the flavor say none of those shenanigans?

PEdit:
That's a normal catch all.

[Lord Mhork]

He said he commutes, though, Ree... >_>

[Lord Mhork]

If safety dies.

[Lord Mhork]

I do find it odd, though, that there would be a setup where a player can confirm a scum and then be immune to the night kill the following night. Does traitor really balance that out?

[Lord Mhork]

I don't really doubt levy is lying at this point. It's just weird and worth thinking about.

Maybe scum has a governor to even it out? That'd be kinda harsh...

[Lord Mhork]

No, Yates. Read the post and quit making me rethink my town ish read. If safety dies, levy commutes.

[Lord Mhork]

Checking in from phone. I'm confused at the princess flip.

@Mod:
Do we get to learn dead players' alignments?

Hah! At you guys thinking I'm scum. Double hah at the me/levy team.

Yates, what do you mean you were investigated?

[Lord Mhork]

When was that?

[Lord Mhork]

VOTE: Yates

That was weak, Yates. Real weak.

[Lord Mhork]

Yates, that's bullshit defense and you know it. We don't even know if we have a cop, and your super obvious role fishing is terrible.

[Lord Mhork]

You're a moron. Town finds scum by scum hunting, reading reactions, and drawing associative tells. This isn't epic mafia.

I find it absolutely astounded at how convicted you are that there is an investigative role and, moreover, that you believe said role would

listen

to you.

I'm not voting levy because his claim seems legit. Since there was no night, there was no NK and no conversion. You, on the other hand, are playing scummily. That's why I'm voting you.

[Lord Mhork]

Wow. Fuck you, Yates. I believe that other part of his claim too. That one where he explained his town alignment.

Many games don't have cops. Cops aren't necessary to a game. It's possible to have none, 'cause mafia is first and foremost a game of trying to find scum by reading the players. You are unbelievably dense if you think you can be cleared on the POSSIBILITY a cop MIGHT exist and MIGHT have investigated you.

Mr_Ree, you're being very scummy right now. Do you really want me to bring up all the possible setups without cops? There are a TON of them.

PEDIT:
FUCK YOU YATES. WHY IN THE FUCK IS THIS TOWN FULL OF GIGANTIC MORONS WHO THINK THEY'RE ALL THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS GAME? LOOK AT MY CREATION DATE. I'VE BEEN PLAYING AWHILE. THE SHEER ASININE ARROGANCE THAT YOU, YATES, ESPECIALLY WOULD THINK THAT I COULD BE WRONG ON THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE ARE NO COPS. WHY WOULD I LIE? HOW WOULD I LIE? WHY CAN THERE BE NO COPS? WHY? TELL ME.

This is stupid. Ridiculous. Moronic. Wrong. No town should be saddled with so many pseudointellectual VIs who all have this new obv town way of working the system. There is no guaranteed cop. None. Ever. Even if there is, there are modifiers. They can be 1 shot, naive, paranoid, or insane. They can be role blocked, bus driven, or redirected. Quit being asinine.

And I just finished a 21p game that had no cop. So fuck you.

And your attempt to discredit me and confirm me as scum based on my delayed response is shitty, crappy, scummy, disgustingly foul play. I'm sorry. I just finished a rehearsal. I'm tired. I'm doing homework. I just ate. Suck it up and realize that some people have outside lives. And before you bitch about me being online, realize this: my phone is logged on to mafia 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can't 'catch' me. Quit being a pussy and actually fight me with real logic, or roll over and die. Your choice.

Ree, you can't be this stupid. You can't. We don't even know the princess' alignment. We don't know how many scum are left. We don't know if slendy is with the mafia. We don't even know if he's in this game or if flavour is just based on kids being afraid and killing each other. Your LyLo setup thing is bullshit and I have a hard thine believing you actually think this. How are the points against Yates weak? How? Give me something of substance other than the fuckhead 'lol there is always cop guaranteed' argument.

Oh my fucking god why can't you all be scum. Town can't be this bad. It's grossly unfair for those of us trying to enjoy a simple game of mafia. Tell me oh wise, omnipotent, and fucking omnipresent AJ, where did I say that levy wasn't traitor? Look at the fucking half dozen posts or so where I flat out explain why I don't want to lynch his despite his claiming traitor. Why would I defend an easy bus so hard? Do you actually think about the game or do you just vomit on the keyboard and bash your head until there's a sizable just of text to submit?

You have to be scum, Yates. You have to be. Margie and I are the best obv towns you've got. We're being anti town? How? By not speed lynching levy? That's anti town? What happened to discussion and explanation? Can you pull your head out of your ass for more than 20 minutes and actually try and play mafia?

AJ, shut up. Lynching levy is awful. Vote Yates instead.

PPedit:
I love how playing this game makes my blood pressure shoot up. I'm getting on the computer now.

Sorry for spelling mistakes. On phone.

[Lord Mhork]

Not a hard decision at this point but I'm not ready to end the day yet. There is still some missing pieces that I need to work out. Levi should go. I've had my suspicions regarding the other two as well.

I need to do that VCA I've been meaning to get around to. I was hoping someone would do the work for me after I brought it up.

Vote count analysis is stupid without confirmed scum. Personally I'm not even convinced Safety was town. He was a princess who caused the night phase to be skipped. Sounds like scum penalty to me.

@Mod - please consider mod-killing any Town that isn't voting for claimed scum - thereby not playing to their win condition. OR never mod another game again. Either option is cool with me. Thanks for your consideration.

You stupid, asinine, crap spewing, shit eating excuse for a psuedointellectual village idiot. That was the most arrogant, condescending, passive aggressive, unsportsmanlike jab at the playerbase and at the moderator. It's not piggy's fault that you're a cocky, scummy little fucker who makes it hard for anyone to take you seriously. Wonder why people are ok lynching you? You aren't cleared. You aren't. You aren't. You aren't. You aren't. And levy isn't confirmed scum. Moreover, one doesn't have to vote claimed scum--or even confirmed scum. There are strategies and situations that shift the situation. Take your one size fit all approach back to Road to Rome where it belongs.

I'm not ready to end the day yet.

I'm at L-2.
Confessed scum Levi is at L-3 [and voting for me - which should say SOMETHING].
It takes 5 to lynch.

Bullshit. BUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSHHHHHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT. Fuck off and go somewhere else. You're at L-2 to for a reason. LEVY ISN'T CONFESSED SCUM. LEVY IS CONFESSED TOWN WITH A CONDITIONAL RECRUITMENT. GUESS WHAT? I'VE SEEN THIS TOO. I JUST PLAYED AND IT WON MY SCUM TEAM THE GAME. YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT, YATES.

There's 8 alive, meaning three scum. That scum is either Levi/Mhork/(HD/Marangal) in my mind. Two easy lynches.

We CAN'T sit Yates this close.

Easy lynches? Really? Could you at least try not to scum slip? We can totally sit Yates this close. He's scum. Like you, I'll wager. I'd totally love a Ree/Yates/AJ block. That would be sooooooooo awesome.

There's 8 alive, meaning three scum.

Why are there only three people making any sense? <3

Since Levi is already voting me, I'm either inexplicably a scum Godfather in a game with no Cops [as Mhork and Margie would have you believe] OR at least one of the two voting for me are also scum [with Levi] as evidenced by the fact I haven't been hammered yet. So this game just got a whole lot easier.

You're good at this game. Except not. Not even close. I miss levy's antitownieness. I could see where he was kinda coming from there. You're just bad. Horrible. Awful. Grossly detestable. First of all. FUCK YOU SCREW YOU I WANT TO TEAR YOUR HEAD OF AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR SCUMMY LITTLE ASS YOU PATHETIC SPINELESS WRETCH.

Second, that is gross misrepresentation of what has been said. Where have Margie and I ever said that you were a godfather in a copless game? Where'd you get that?

Third, and take notes here, 2 and 3 vote quickhammers don't happen. Even in games with daychat where scum can communicate, they don't happen. YOU CAN'T CONFIRM YOURSELF AS TOWN DUE TO NOT HAVING DIED. WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF SCUM. WE DON'T KNOW THIRD PARTIES. It's entirely possible, too, that scum would want to let town hammer a mislynch. This is irrelevant speculation, though, because you're still scum.

PEdit:

And I just finished a 21p game that had no cop. So fuck you

Oh. You mean this game that had 2 masons, a compulsive BG, and a vig? The game where the BG would be a defacto "cop" by virtue of dying if he protects scum? That game? Wow. I was just put in my place.

Hang on, what? Bodyguard dies when he protects scum? Since when? You're getting that mixed up with a Weak Doc. Did you wanna try using an actual defense now?

We're being anti town? How? By not speed lynching levy? That's anti town? What happened to discussion and explanation?

Yup.

Let's start with this:

Spoiler:

Also, how the fuck is it that I'm somehow defending myself from shit-tastic "logic" when THIS fucking shit exists??!!

I am the TRAITOR!

This role is necessarily Mafia-aligned.

Please tell me what part of this quoted post requires further "discussion" and "explanation."

Also...

LOUD NOISES!!! RAAAAARRRR!!!!

How about this. I'll use small words so you can understand:
He (he is levy) told us that he was a different kind of traitor. He said that he becomes scum if he is the target of the night kill. I believe him there. If you actually read the wiki, you would see that the princess here didn't act the right way, and that a body guard is not the same as a weak doctor.

Sorry, I used some multisyllabic words, but I think you got the point.

Also good job writing off everything I wrote. (b")b
You're town game is impeccable. I can't believe you're this close to a lynch as obv town as you are.

[Lord Mhork]

Hey, Yates. Hey. You're not confirmed town. Just throwing it out there.

[Lord Mhork]

tl;dr Yates is totally scum. Let's kill him. Ignore AJ and Ree. They're competing with levy for worst village idiot.

[Lord Mhork]

First, it wasn't a bullshit wagon. Levy was scummy, and his power role claiming was bad and bleeding fakeness. He was a much better lynch than fuzzy. MUCH better.

I'm not being stupid. Screw you. Try thinking. I reaaaaaally want you to be town here.

I'll tell ya what, I'll consider a levy lynch. Precisely for those reasons. How badly do you see Yates town?

PEdit:
Are you kidding? My town meta is to be abrasive and cuss everyone out until I get what I want. I've got an issue as scum of being really reasonable. Right now I'm just pissed that all these VIs can't be scum. I didn't come here for a newbie game. I came here for the awesome theme and a great game.

[Lord Mhork]

Those reasons meant the lynch the princess thing.

[Lord Mhork]

Sorry, Margie. I'm in a weird, manic, pissed off kick after levy, fuzzy, Yates and Ree. I'll be chill tomorrow.

PEdit:
@Margie:
Sorry. I'm buddying 'cause you're the only one making sense. I miss newearth

@AJ:
I'd wager a cookie that it'd be Ree. His sheeping is bad and illogical. He plays better than this. Maybe levy is there too? Not sure... Maybe a lurker with a low post count? I don't wanna believe Serra. Maybe HumanDestroyer? He was playing badly.

[Lord Mhork]

How do you guarantee he is town?

[Lord Mhork]

>_> You're bad at reading. I gave you a scale. Of four. And you're the one spouting that there are three scums left.

And you'd tell the town if you had any real evidence.

Or you could keep it to yourself. 'Cause we're actually playing epicmafia. yay.

[Lord Mhork]

>_> You're bad at reading. I gave you a scale. Of four. And you're the one spouting that there are three scums left.

You have Yates as scum. Then listed four more. 5. Unless, of course, you think he's town in which case your vote reeks like sewage.

Yates, Ree, Levy, HumanDestroyer. Four. Nice shot to force a slip up.

[Lord Mhork]

Okay, this is likely falling on deaf ears but I'm going to put this out there. These are the last 5 completed games in Coney Island:

Timeshift - 13 players - Tracker, Jailkeep, Role Cop
First Time - 13 players - hider, JOAT, gunsmith
Simpsons - 13 players - vig, doctor, cop
Vanger Family - 13 players - tracker and cop
Storm of Songs - 13 players - cop, vig, jailkeep

[Full disclosure - if someone wants to figure this game out, be my guest]

I'm not going to keep linking, but you get the point. In each and every completed game I clicked on, there was SOME type of role designed to find scum.

Granted - this doesn't GUARANTEE that we have an investigator role. It does, however, STRONGLY imply that we likely have one.

I'll let that percolate for a bit because I shouldn't need to defend myself today even if you are 99% sure I'm scum.

Why? Because we know with

100%

certainty that Levi is a Traitor. A Traitor is - by definition - anti Town. Keeping him alive is like arguing to keep an SK alive. It's just dumb and is going to lose you the game.

You're stupid.

[Lord Mhork]

He doesn't care, Margie. He doesn't actually read the wiki. He ignored my argument already, 'cause he's ignorant scum.

[Lord Mhork]

And you'd tell the town if you had any real evidence.

Wow. You accuse me of "rolefishing" for telling any investigative role to keep their trap shut if I came up innocent - because, you know, that's how you play the game - but say that an innocent investigation SHOULD be made public, thus outing the investigator for scum prior to actually finding scum?

You're right. You are better at this game than me and playing at a different level. In the games I'm in, that's considered dumb play. Obviously everyone I play with knows less than you do. Also, you are clearly smarter than the prevailing mafia theory surrounding innocent results. Amazing.

Oh my fucking god just shut up, Yates. You're a horrible player. Deal with it.

I think I understand how MattP felt. No wonder he quit playing the game. >.<

I'd wager a cookie that it'd be

Ree

. His sheeping is bad and illogical. He plays better than this. Maybe

levy

is there too? Not sure... Maybe a lurker with a low post count? I don't wanna believe

Serra

. Maybe

HumanDestroyer

? He was playing badly.

4+Yates. L2post.

If you read really, really close, you'll see that Serra is an 'I don't want to believe this person could be scum.' Good investigative work, though.

[Lord Mhork]

Yay! Serra makes sense!

I'm going to go lay down now. That was a weird fit. Nighty night, all!

[Lord Mhork]

Safety's faction color is yellow, indicating not town, therefore a third party or scum. Scum is NORMALLY red, which makes me think third party. First flavor post hints at a 3 person scum party, so town, three scum and 1 third party (safety). Levi indicated he can become scum. Since I doubt there would be 4 scum in an 11 player, he must be included in the three scum (from first flavor post). Next, since Slender man is generally a loner, one would think he is also third party, so town, 2 3rd parties, and 3 scum.

Put all that together and you'll understand why we should lynch Levi. Brings us to 2 scum and one 3rd party.

Since Levi obviously lied about the true nature of his role (no night, therefore, no commute), we can't trust anything else he said.

This is bad. Do you honestly believe that there would be 4 anti town factions?

[Lord Mhork]

Levy is bleeding truth on his claim, guys. Yates isn't. Why can't we lynch Yates?

[Lord Mhork]

Not at CPU right now. Sreyoi

[Lord Mhork]

Ree, you ain't got shit for logic. I liked your play better when you were scum.

Also I don't actually remember that last post, nor do I know what I was trying to spell.

[Lord Mhork]

How do you get 4 factions out of that? One scum team and a few 3rds.

@SP did Yates claim? I must have missed that... I remember he said he would kill Mhork but I didn't take it at face value.

I was thinking about the slendy situation as well. From the flavor, it doesn't sound like a player. One would think he would be though, it is Slender man mafia afterall. Maybe SP is more on the right track than I am. Could also just be two scum and one recruitable with a third party princess. The yellow faction color is throwing me off. Definitely not town. No clue if it's scum or a third party color.

How come nobody asked why Ms. M hammered before Safety even posted? Are we just supposed to ignore that?

I meant 4 antitown players.

Her hammer was weird, but whatev's. She's still one of my top town reads.

Levy is bleeding truth on his claim, guys. Yates isn't. Why can't we lynch Yates?

Because I'm not the one lying and you are his likely scum buddy?

Because I'm the kind to buddy my buddy hard, right? I get the feeling that you think I'm an idiot or something. Why is that? And why are all your scum reads so opportunistic?

Why can't we lynch Yates?

Oh yeah... and then there's the fact I will be mod confirmed Town tomorrow. *shrug* It is what it is.

First you were already confirmed, and now you will be confirmed? Make up your mind. Or not. It just goes to show how obvscum you are to the rest of the town.

So, let me point this out: If we LEAVE levi alive, we lose for sure.

Elaborate.

... and if your win condition changed, you wouldn't tell us. It may have changed already, how are we supposed to know? Do we waste an investigation every night just to see if you've turned? Do we spend resources protecting you so you don't turn? You've become a liability, not an asset. Even if your claim is 100% truthful, which it CAN'T be, there are still missing pieces that throw it all out of whack, we can't spend the resources monitoring which side you're on. We can't be worrying about you either. You may be town now but that can change on any given day.

You gotta go BEFORE you become a problem. That's all there is to it. Thanks for doing your part, if you are still town and you die as town, you still win as town. Give your reads before you go, as detailed as you possibly can.

This isn't logic, Ree. I can counter this question with pointing out there's no reason for him to, as scum, claim to be traitor. We don't waste an investigation every night. We ignore him while we find scum, and then if, at the end, he's still around and we're a scum short, he can get lynched then. Or vig can waste a shot dealing with him.

Why can't his claim be truthful?

Your final sentence is weak and acquiescing and bleeds of scum trying to seem protown and reasonable. You're supposed to be better than that, Ree.

Actually, Yates, why did bait the N1 investigation if you can be mod-confirmed town?

Finally, if ANYONE is getting investigated tonight, it's me. So why not let that result speak for itself?

My role *will* be mod confirmed tomorrow one way or another.

Oh yeah... and then there's the fact I will be mod confirmed Town tomorrow. *shrug* It is what it is.

This.

I might be paranoid, but I feel that might mean we're in MyLo.

You're being paranoid. We have only mislynched once in an 11 player game. It CAN'T be mylo.

How do you know we've only mislynched once? Scumslip, mayhaps?

Except if Safety is town and yellow is the label for PR's. So tell me, why did you bait the N1 investigation?

Yates, why are you ignoring this?

You'd better be right about this.

Intent to Hammer: Levi

Marangal & Mhork: Any comments?
Levi: Please post you final reads.

Serra, stop. Don't hammer levy. Help me lynch Yates. He was flat out ignoring your questions and trying to waste town resources even if he'll aparently be all confirmed town anyway. Where's the town motivation? Where's the logic? Lynching levy is a stupid move.

... it's on this page...

So explain, logically, how you came to believe that we should keep Levi around and lynch off Yates.

I was talking about this:

Not at CPU right now. Sreyoi

And remember when I said this?

Levy is bleeding truth on his claim, guys. Yates isn't. Why can't we lynch Yates?

That's why.

[Lord Mhork]

It's not rolefishing. It's calling you out for a bullshit claim that's trying to screw the town over for one extra lynch before you get caught. We need that knowledge today, 'cause information is really helpful in the town making an informed decision.

[Lord Mhork]

You all just had to go quote him, didn't you? This was never here. You saw nothing. Zombies are (thankfully) not coming to attack us all. No worries. ❤Piggy

I do. He is.

Nah. You're wrong. Certain information is about timing.

No. Answer the question. Why were you trying to get the supposed cop to investigate you when you could be mod confirmed as innocent. Explain this.

Well, I don't know what's going on with mhork and Yates. Didn't you have yates as scum once, Mhork?

He did.

He does.

And why are dead people talking?

Wait... Yeah. Why is fuzzy talking?

[Lord Mhork]

Levy, since it looks like I can't do much to stop this,

*pointed glare*

who would you wager are the scum? Just spill your thoughts in one massive wall of text, ok?

[Lord Mhork]

You were wasting town resources for confirming town and finding scum. Why? There is absolutely no protown motivation for this.

[Lord Mhork]

You're a prick. You have no excuse for wasting town resources.

[Lord Mhork]

Ree, no. I'm on my phone now, but Yates was exactly wasting town resources. HE SAID HIS ROLE WAS MOD CONFIRMABLE AS INNOCENT. Why, if that were true, would he try to pull an investigation? And townies don't want to be investigated. Guiltiest are much more useful than innocents. Townies should push investigators away with their towniness, no pull them because their secret desire is to be an IC.

Your little 'I don't wanna vote you' thing is bad, however it is so not scum Ree that, unless your meta took a 180, you are very probably town.

And it's not just scum who would defend him. As you said, he's low hanging fruit. Easy lynch fodder. If you all are seriously going to lynch me based on defending a widely perceived as scummy player, then I should die right here. He's a town read and I stick by that.

And did you just fucking claim cop? Really? Ugh...

GG, scum. What a town you picked up.

[Lord Mhork]

Awesome. Levy was town and safety was scum. Surprise, surprise.

VOTE: Yates

[Lord Mhork]

...'cause he's really scummy and was jamming that levy lynch through really hard. Also he was wasting investigative resources when he could, supposedly, be mod confirmed innocent.

[Lord Mhork]

Margie, hush. Think 4th dimensionally here.

Ree, I didn't think you were a cop. >_>
I have no idea what you're talking about. All I see is a lack of mod confirmation on the Yates front, so he is my lynch for today.

I have no proof save logic. But that's all I should need.

[Lord Mhork]

I don't get what you're asking. I though I believed safety was scum because I believed levy and his claim.

Interesting claim. What about N2?

[Lord Mhork]

Oh yeah. I'm a moron. >.<

Hmm... I would guess that the quotations show how it's possible for him to become scum, but he was town then. I'm not sure though.

[Lord Mhork]

Hah! And how am I obvscum, Human Destroyer, pray tell?

[Lord Mhork]

When he claimed TOWN ALIGNED TRAITOR that could be TURNED TO SCUM. Gee. I wonder why I stopped pushing his lynch.

Clearly I'm 100% transparent and should just surrender and vote myself now. Your superior scumhunting has me completely revealed.

I'm gonna look at this later.

PEdit:
Yup. Gonna check HD, AJ, and Ree. See what comes of it.

[Lord Mhork]

When he claimed TOWN ALIGNED TRAITOR that could be TURNED TO SCUM. Gee. I wonder why I stopped pushing his lynch.

Clearly I'm 100% transparent and should just surrender and vote myself now. Your superior scumhunting has me completely revealed.

I'm gonna look at this later.

PEdit:
Yup. Gonna check HD, AJ, and Ree. See what comes of it.

[Lord Mhork]

When he claimed TOWN ALIGNED TRAITOR that could be TURNED TO SCUM. Gee. I wonder why I stopped pushing his lynch.

Clearly I'm 100% transparent and should just surrender and vote myself now. Your superior scumhunting has me completely revealed.

I'm gonna look at this later.

PEdit:
Yup. Gonna check HD, AJ, and Ree. See what comes of it.

[Lord Mhork]

Wow. I have no idea how that triple post happened. Sorry.

[Lord Mhork]

>_>
Yeah. Whatever. I'm a vanilla townie. Really, I guess I'm better dead if you guys can't look past my defense of levy...

Scum is HumanDestroyer, Ree, then AJ, in that order of liklihood.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: HumanDestroyer

[Lord Mhork]

Yates, shouldn't your results be at the forefront of your mind?

[Lord Mhork]

Also, as I say in every fucking game ever, not getting hammered is NOT a scum tell.

[Lord Mhork]

Except if Yates is actually scum and they kill tonight and he gets a 'guilty.'

[Lord Mhork]

Safety flipped as 'SlenderMan's princess meaning he was on the SlenderMan's team, no? Unless you think that SlenderMan and his team are separate?

I'm keeping my vote on Yates because of that terrible Margie FoS and trying to back it up with being unsure of sanity/forgetful.

[Lord Mhork]

Hi, HumanDestroyer. Why am I the most obvious scum ever scummed. See I don't see it, and apparently neither do the guys that haven't hammered me. Who else do you think is scum? Are you just gonna prod dodge and whine about me not getting lynched or are you gonna help?

[Lord Mhork]

I was pushing levy 'cause he was a shit player. I stopped because he had a believable claim. I pushed safety 'cause he was scum. I pushed Yates 'cause he was an asshole who was wasting town investigation, lied about being confirmable, and was generally hiding information and being antitown.

Now he has FoSed an 'innocent' and still hadn't been mod confirmed as town. He's still being antitown and still being an asshole.

But feel free to yell how obviously scum I am. This is helpful.

[Lord Mhork]

Why claim it otherwise, Human. It was

BELIEVABLE

. And guess what--IT WAS TRUE. He was a town aligned Traitor. You seem to be trying to conveniently forget that fact. Also, in his posts YATES WAS TRYING TO PULL INVESTIGATIONS AND THEN BACKING UP WHILE SAYING HE WAS MOD CONFIRMABLE AS TOWN. This is an inconsistency colloquially known as 'lying.' Sometimes scum does it in an attempt to fool town. I know, it's shocking, but sometimes players do that.

I didn't want him to claim cop with no results. You're putting words in my mouth. I wanted him to answer for the fact that he was trying to pull investigations while being mod confirmable. That is an INCONSISTENCY. Inconsistencies usually need to be answered, except in towns like this that look like they were shipped straight from EpicMafia. You're gonna ignore me, but whatever. It's prolly you and Yates as the last two. That would be hilarious.

And, Yates, you are being antitown. You are picky and choosing parts of peoples' questions that you feel like answering. You are pushing a lynch with no strong evidence. You're being an ass about it.

And those are bullshit threads I'm not actually going to read. You're being an asshole. I'm calling you on it. That's not a scum tell.

Why am I scum? Levy? That's why? Spell it out like I'm five. Maybe you can try phrasing it differently. Or maybe you can try looking for scum. Whichever you prefer.

[Lord Mhork]

How about HumanDestroyer, Ree? I'd vote for him.

[Lord Mhork]

Well I guess I'd be fine with a no lynch if we had to, but I'd personally like a HumanDestroyer lynch. My favourite is revisting his ISO, seeing the town reads on me, the scum reads on all the guys who have flipped town, and the levy obv town. Then there was the massive 180 with levy being auto lynch and me being obvscum.

Also he's been sitting, twiddling his thumbs and waiting for me to get lynched. Does anyone actually have a town read on him?

[Lord Mhork]

I have good town feels for him. He's been making sense and hasn't been an ass about it. I don't see much scum motivation in his posting, but I do see a lot of town irritation and scumhunting. What do you think, Yates?

[Lord Mhork]

This no lymch idea is really, really bad, you guys. I

highly

doubt this game can be broken by a simple follow the cop strategy and we shouldn't throw out a lynch in a mad hope it will be. We should lynch one of AJ or human destroyer (both common 'meh' reads in the town) and tonight Yates should investigate from a pool or the remaining dude, Serra, and me. Extra information if we somehow manage to stop the kill, and, failing that, we go into tomorrow with lots of information!

PEdit:
That too. No lynch is just a bad idea in general.

[Lord Mhork]

On my phone, but chiming in that the 'there's nothing actually scummy' type posts usually come from pissed scum.

...not that I have frequent experience with this particular tell or anything.

[Lord Mhork]

Human Destroyer, the case on me is essentially that I'm obv scum for defending levy. Apart from that, there's nothing. Why haven't you actually tried convincing people of my scumminess instead of throwing your vote down and proclaiming me scum? You're not doing anything while at the same time bitching that nothing is getting done. The PoE really does make sense, and I agree with Serra that is reeks of pissed off scum.

Apart from me, who do you want lynched? What are your other reads? What are your other thoughts? Why are you semi tunneling me so hard?

[Lord Mhork]

Well ya see the issue is that I'm not scum, Human Destroyer, so your tunneling isn't making sense to me. If you are actually town, I'd like to know who else I should be looking at.

Also you keep saying my 180 doesn't make sense, but it

did

. Levy's claim bled truth and honesty and it made sense to me. I thought he was telling the truth about safety, and he was, and I believed him about his towniness, which he also was. You say it's straw manning, but that is literally all I can see about your 'case' and it sucks.

[Lord Mhork]

Well Mhork-town did. Mhork-scum is much smarter and less abrasive, but whatev's.

Also my giant 'scum' read was just hatred toward levy for being anti town as fuck. He claimed town aligned traitor and said that safety was scum, and he was right. This honesty made me feel as though he was being totally honest about his claim. Why should I doubt? I'm not you, Human Destroyer. I have the capacity to look at roles more than just what I've seen before, so I wasn't about to dig further from levy.

[Lord Mhork]

What's there to comment on? There was apparently a hammer, I'm still a vanilla townie, HD is apparently town, and last scum is Ree or AJ, or Yates did a fabulous job. Yates should die tonight, otherwise it's game for scum. If there's a doc, they should obviously protect him. I'm suspicious of Ree's super cool role, and almost suspicious of AJ'a BP townie claim.

But yeah... It's just waiting for the flip now.

[Lord Mhork]

Yates, what is your cop result?

[Lord Mhork]

Yates, explain what you mean by 'play out.' Pretty much everyone has said 'let's wait to do anything until Yates says who he targeted.'

[Lord Mhork]

Is cool. I can wait for claims to happen.

What reactions are you trying to see, Yates?

[Lord Mhork]

I'm so confused here. What are you all about Ree? I'm very lost...

[Lord Mhork]

V/LA until Sunday.

I will be *dramatic hand swoop* acting!

[Lord Mhork]

Hi. I'm back. I'll look over this later.

[Lord Mhork]

I'm not even gonna pretend like I've been playing along at this point. Tech week opened for the crucible and I was competing in stuff and blah, blah, blah

At this point I'm not sure who is scum because I don't see who would have reason to be lying. Ree has his weird thing with being inconclusive, nasty gut says that Yates is prolly lying, and I feel like AJ and serra have to be scummy via PoE. I dunno, though, and I'm very tired.

[Lord Mhork]

I'm not replacing out. I'm just confused and tired.

You look scummy, though. And I really don't like that mod question. Forced town slip is forced.

[Lord Mhork]

SerraPaladin. Investigations on me don't help 'cause I already know my alignment. Really there should be a better investigation on you, though. Also Yates should get killed so that Marangle can get confirmed as town.

I don't like your words here, though, but that might be good for you. You sound nothing like scum you, so I get good vibes here.

But that means that Serra would be scum, and I have had good town vibes there too. Really I'm looking at AJ here, 'cause I don't think claiming BP townie necessarily proves his towniness.

[Lord Mhork]

I'd guess AJ/serra or Ree, I think.

[Lord Mhork]

Anyway if we're facing a 2 man scum team left, best bet would be NL, right?

[Lord Mhork]

Why are you 'uncomfortable' with a no lynch, Yates?

[Lord Mhork]

Ugh... Awesome. I don't know what to tell you people. I'm not scum.

Ree's 'gut' scum read on me is bad, but that's Ree. I reeeeeaaaally don't like AJ explaining how he wanted to 'trap' me as scum, but that could easily just be him thinking he can force scum slips. But worst of all is Serra. Especially his last post with the 'LyLo isn't worse than MyLo, and I could totally lynch Mhork.' It's bad.

A no lynch is our best bet information-wise, by the by. By forcing scum to shoot, we can confirm our cop and his innocent, or make the scum let him have another investigation for bonus information points. Can anyone think of a real reason not to no-lynch beyond 'yeah... I'm feeling Mhork scum...' Y'all sound like my western literature professor.

[Lord Mhork]

AJ is my favourite for scum, and I'm really edgy on Yates' claim. Ree, I feel, is giving too townie a vibe.

And, dude... Your reasons are getting weaker. 'We should lynch you now because you'll be confirmed tomorrow.' 'If we're both town, town has already lost.' What are you doing?

[Lord Mhork]

Serra, you're looking awfully desperate here. Why not wait for this supposed clear on you?

[Lord Mhork]

VOTE: No Lynch

If Yates gets shot and flips cop, scum is prolly Serra and AJ or Ree, leaning AJ, I think.

If he doesn't, I'm still skeptical of his claim after that posh mafia thing. That was soooo bad. >.<

[Lord Mhork]

Yeah... I'm not scum guys. AJ/Ree or Yates FTL!

But seriously, what's the case on me? I'm not buying PoE. What's the real deal?

[Lord Mhork]

I have explained the levy thing to death. I'm not going to do it again. It makes perfect sense if you actually read the game, but all y'all are reading this as if I've already flipped scum. That 'case' is weak and stupid.

Thank you for thinking, Ree. Who do you think would be scum with AJ then, if there had to be one?

[Lord Mhork]

No. Lynching me is the worst option. It's a bad idea. >.<***

Why would I shoot SP, Ree? Explain that? How would I know you could hide behind him? How would I know you were a hider at all? There's still no case except 'well we all kinda have gut scum vibes.' I'm not having this stupid lynch thing happen again.

[Lord Mhork]

Yesterday?

[Lord Mhork]

Prod dodges are dumb. I'll just say it.

V/LA through Sunday

Thought I could multitask with the theatre. I cannot.

[Lord Mhork]

Well I can look at this after school better, but based on the one page of posting, it looks like you are dumb and have decided to lynch me whilst grasping at straws. Whatev's.

VOTE: AJ

Best bet is scum here. If Yates absolutely is convinced I'm scum, he should investigate me. There is abso-fucking-lutely no real lynchworthy case on me except bad PoE. My favourite part is that AJ is somehow cleared on claiming bulletproof. >_>
That's stupid and doesn't make sense. I'll be on tonight if I don't get quickhammered or something.

[Lord Mhork]

And why, praytell, do I have to be the one to die? What if this is LyLo? Then this plan is shit, no?

[Lord Mhork]

I'm not gonna give 'final' reads. I'm not scum. Lynching me is a very bad move for the town.

[Lord Mhork]

No shit, Sherlock. >_>

[Lord Mhork]

Ree, you're a moron. You know that if there are two scums, my death means instaloss, right? You'll confirm me as town only because the mod will announce which scums won.

You're plan is bad. And it doesn't make sense. You're gonna kill the town, Ree.

[Lord Mhork]

...he's not the cop or the clear, and his claim is kinda stupid?

[Lord Mhork]

Actually no I wouldn't. Let's say that we are currently at a 3/2 LyLo. Lynching me brings us to a 2/2 situation which is normally an auto win for scum. We have no killing role to give saving grace. Even if scum shoots and hits a BP,

town still loses

. Having half the town means scum is safety to perpetually no lynch into the night phase and shoot townies off. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT HAVING HALF THE TOWN IS A SCUM WIN.

I don't understand how your plan saves us from the 2/2 scum win. Explain to me, Ree.

It'd prolly be a you/AJ team, I'd bet, Yates. I buy a hider a little more than a cop here, and I doubt that marangle is godfather. I dunno for sure yet, though. I'm busy trying to get to the point when finding AJ's partner matters.

[Lord Mhork]

I CHOSE not to be investigated? Fuck you, Ree.

AND WILL YOU ALL FUCKING SHUT UP ABOUT ME DEFENDING LEVY? I HAVE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER EXPLAINED WHY I DID WHAT I DID. YOU ALL ARE JUST NOT READING IT.

Rages aside, I'm taking the worst case scenario in which there are two scums left. If there are two scums left, we should be very careful about who we lynch. Plus you say that AJ fits your profile better. Why lynch me first? Why not him? Why do *I* need to die first if, as you say, it doesn't really matter as long as we get all the people investigated and all that?

I'm not trying to investigate all the unconfirmed townies. I'm trying to stop scum from getting a majority. That is what we have to do to win, not try and game the system to get the max output of confirmed innocents.

My unwillingness to 'martyr' has been addressed. The rest of your 'gems' are pure, unadulterated shit. I mean because you're getting shot at, I must be scum? Do you think I'm that stupid? If I were scum, this game would have been won a long time ago at this point with this town.

Your plan is stupid. Really stupid. If it weren't for the awesome likliness of your claim, I'd lynch you dead on the spot for trying to shove through a pisspoor excuse for a terrible case. Instead you're being a moron with a nice superiority complex because 'lol I ttlly got dis guiz!!!one1!'

I'm going to keep kicking and screaming until we lynch AJ. I'm not going to die because of this stupid plan. It's just not going to happen.

[Lord Mhork]

Yates claimed cop and you don't really lynch a claimed cop. Ree claimed hider and this was backed by Yates. Unless they're both scum, I find their claims fairly reasonable. Then there's Marangal. Barring godfather, she's pretty much confirmed town, though I'm not liking the sketch activity... >.<

This leaves you, ergo scum

[Lord Mhork]

Please. Who actually asks to be investigated? Cops should do their own thing regardless. I don't see how this is a scum tell in the slightest.

Marangal, please post.

[Lord Mhork]

Vote AJ with me for fun and profit?

[Lord Mhork]

No, Yates. Fuck that tell. Speedlynches at LyLo very rarely happen. Even if scum has say chat, it doesn't happen.