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Post Post #33 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:13 am

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Post Post #41 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:01 am

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I disagree with you serra, instead of just hopping on the rvs wagon you had to make an attempt to justify your vote, even if your justification was something ridiculous. Having seen scum do something very similar recently I am more aware of that

this is good for now

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Post Post #72 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:37 pm

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In post 70, Malakittens wrote:Not really see how my post 28 brings up red flags. Explain for me? It's how I hunt in the beginning -


I call BS.

I just went through all of your completed games, I stopped at mini 1387 Mafia in Cortelona and in none of your games did you do anything remotely close to what you did in post 28. You never ask people their thoughts like that. The odd thing is you don't do it as scum either but either way, it's not true.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:41 pm

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In post 73, Malakittens wrote:Yeah, no. That's me poking at them to give thoughts.

Clearly trying to get some content and reads going is a scum tell - cute.

you realize scum has to do things to make them appear town right? yeah that's the epitome of your play this game. It's not natural, seems fake.

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Post Post #76 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:43 pm

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that's L-2 btw

also @ mod, I do not like vote counts added in like that either.

p.edit - was that at me?
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Post Post #78 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:48 pm

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gonna have to read him, brb
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Post Post #79 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:50 pm

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see in fuzzys post I don't see someone trying to be town, I see someone trying to be funny. emphasis on trying...
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Post Post #83 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:05 pm

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@ mala

post 12 - bitching about killing RVS when in reality he didn't even kill rvs. Some people don't participate in RVS at all. I almost never (actually I think I have only done it just once)

post 28 - asking people's opinions so early in the game is completely unnecessary.

post 30 - blatant overreaction to being run up. the "will cast a serious vote" comment is also scummy imo, "let's try to get the game to move forward comment" blatant attempt to seem town. Let the game develop naturally, we don't need any help from you or anyone else.

post 32 - over analysis of an blatant bandwagon hop, usually those are done for 1 thing. reactions. You don't want to call him scummy for it cause you seem afraid someone will accuse you of OMGUS. If you thought the vote was shit call him out on it. Don't analyze it.

post 36 - you make a valid point about serra kudos for that, your comment about beli was unneccessary, and your comment about me is completely idiotic. I always start the game the same way. I say SUP. I don't comment on shit with my first post and not commenting on anything isn't scummy.

I really could go on but do I need to?
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Post Post #86 (isolation #8) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:25 pm

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if you say so...
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Post Post #89 (isolation #9) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:30 pm

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In post 86, Jake from State Farm wrote:if you say so...
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Post Post #92 (isolation #10) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:38 pm

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In post 90, fuzzybutternut wrote:Defense against what I said. He could have at least said "i'm not pulling anything out of thin air," but chose to just completely ignore it.

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Post Post #94 (isolation #11) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:58 pm

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1. you were looking for a defense, you said so in post 87
2. I have nothing to defend myself from
3. I completely understand what is and isn't part of the game, thanks Dad
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Post Post #96 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:00 pm

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In post 86, Jake from State Farm wrote:if you say so...
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Post Post #97 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:08 pm

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Hey Dad,

how is someone supposed to defend themselves from a baseless accusation anyway?

you didn't even focus your accusation to a specific post or series of posts. You have to at least make an attempt to show what shit you think I pulled out of thin air and why you think that. Without that information you just look like an idiot making baseless accusations.

I am not even sure how you can prove my opinion is wrong, since everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

so I'll let you mull it over and you get back to me in the morning. If you can assemble a series of sentences together into something that resembles a legitimate accusation, I will consider responding to it and even possibly defending myself from it but if you can't even manage to do that, I really shouldn't be here wasting my time. I got to get up early tomorrow.

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Post Post #105 (isolation #14) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:28 am

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In post 99, serrapaladin wrote:Fuzzy, everything you're saying is shit. Please stop.

Couldn't agree more
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Post Post #106 (isolation #15) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:01 am

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In post 98, fuzzybutternut wrote:The fact that I said you were pulling shit out of thin air is grounds for a defense. I was basically calling everything you said shit, in case you missed that.

I didn't pull a single thing out of thin air aka NUH UH
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Post Post #123 (isolation #16) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:46 am

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Idk what confirmation bias means
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Post Post #127 (isolation #17) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:27 am

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actually I didn't know what it means so it's not "playing dumb"

Confirmation bias is the tendency for people to only seek out information that conforms to their pre-existing view point


I also disagree with you about confirmation bias. Confirmation bias implies that I had a scum read on her first and I am using evidence to support my argument which isn't true. When I started reading the game it was those posts that made me think she was scum, thus it's evidence NOT confirmation bias

Mala is scum, my vote probably won't change so FOS me all you want, doesn't phase me 1 bit
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Post Post #129 (isolation #18) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:38 am

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Post Post #156 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:56 am

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I'd stil rather mala but fuzzy is scum also

vote: fuzzy
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Post Post #158 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:21 am

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If you say so
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Post Post #162 (isolation #21) » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:35 am

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Because there's a chance I'm wrong about mala, I've been wrong before. She's at least trying.

Fuzzy isn't trying, he's making accusations and won't even support them with evidence. That's scum play
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Post Post #167 (isolation #22) » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:53 pm

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Huh? I don't think you are reading the same game I am.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:26 am

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In post 177, pirate mollie wrote:ahahaha

I think I like spicegirl

are you actually going to comment on sho's case on mala or what tho

In post 178, Baby Spice wrote:I thought it was reasonable. I liked it. It might be confirmational with me thinking that Beli's and Mala's quote fest being a bit too much.

Obviously neither of you have read post 155
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Post Post #188 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:02 am

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In post 183, serrapaladin wrote:Can't link to ongoing games, but fuzzy does get himself wagoned quite frequently.

from what I can tell he has 3 completed games. All 3 were town. The first 2 games there is an obvious difference in play than he is playing here. The 3rd game is nothing like his first 2 but it's not really similar to his play this game either. Since we can't use ongoing games per-se, I did notice the game you are referring to and I don't think his play that game is similar to his play this game.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:07 pm

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yes I'm 12 and that typo made me laugh
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Post Post #207 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:09 pm

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In post 197, Malakittens wrote:Well; only problem is about claiming rooms. Is that scum need to get an item to night kill. If (town) tells what room they are in and if they drop an item it's more beneficial to scum. At this point I rather not claim where we are until after the scum do their first kill.

actually, knowing what rooms everyone is in can help narrow down the killers.

I don't think day 1 is the time to do it, but at some point we claiming rooms is a good idea
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Post Post #219 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:00 am

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In post 216, Belisarius wrote:-unvotes it when it becomes clear the wagon is about to fall apart


that's a horrible reason to unvote someone btw.


Also going back to what you said earlier about your FOS of me

I'm not FoSsing you for being on Mala, I'm FoSsing you because I find your play independently scummy.


this isn't actually true. You FOS'd me because I didn't know what confirmation bias was. You said "playing dumb" is a scumtell. Other than that you really haven't said anything about my playstyle or what you found suspicious about it.

You suspect mollie because she fos'd someone after she voted them which is a horrible reason to vote someone and you fos'd me because you think I am lying about not knowing what confirmation bias is, which is also another dumb reason to be suspicious of someone.

I find it odd that you say you like the case on mala but you don't fos that slot either. I have been proven time and time again that the speed of a wagon doesn't mean anything.

Check out that link, Mafia got to L-2 on page 1. Sure it was an RVS wagon, but the mala wagon was also an rvs wagon. If you agree with the case, the speed of the wagon shouldn't matter.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:04 am

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Having thought about it some more, I have no problem claiming what rooms we are in.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:30 am

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She isn't playing similar to how I've played with her recently, but I'd need to re-read her posts to see if anything stands out.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:47 am

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I just sent a pm asking if I'm alone but I wasn't told anything originally.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:09 am

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Guile has a sense of humor lol
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Post Post #237 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:25 am

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In post 233, Baby Spice wrote:Serra, before we claim rooms we need to know something.

Was anyone told there was someone else in a room with them?

I asked the mod if I was alone and he have me a philosophical answer and told me to be specific.

I replied back asking if anyone was in the room with me and he essentially told me that what I got was what I got. So idk if I'm alone or not but I'm scurred. I need a hug
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Post Post #253 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:32 pm

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What was I supposed to address about my case?
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Post Post #256 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:28 pm

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my case had almost no resemblance to Shos's case.

Shos's case on mala revolves around her being defensive/overreacting.

My case is about her trying too hard to appear town.
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Post Post #318 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:47 pm

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Gonna try and reread with a fresh set of eyes this weekend.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:11 pm

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So having read baby 's iso, other than her attenpts to Game the system her play isn't very good. She unvotes mala while calling her scummy and has basically ignored Bella, who she also called scummy. She seems to be suspicious of Serra also but no vote. Her attenpts to game the system could easily be made from either alignment because mafia can easily lie about what room they are in.

Another thing I found interesting was fuzzy earlier accused me of posting useless fluff, which was AFTER I posted my reasonings for mala, it's funny cause its really the pot calling the kettle black. Fuzzy isn't attempting to scumhunt and he's not willing to support his accusations with examples/reasoning.

The only thing keeping me from voting baby is mala is voting baby.

@baby - why do you seem to be playing different to the other game we played together? You were much more vocal and pressured people more. I see none of that here.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:36 pm

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Post Post #332 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:20 pm

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In post 328, Jennifer wrote:^Ooh, nice table. I want to learn how to do that.

Fuzzy is killing the momentum a bit, but I don't want to stop the popcorn style claiming.

@Baby Ready to place a vote yet? If not, what makes you uncomfortable about placing one?

@Beli Why is your vote still on Mollie?



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Post Post #335 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:00 pm

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Gazebo

Baby go
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Post Post #337 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:14 pm

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In post 336, Belisarius wrote:
In post 328, Jennifer wrote:@Beli Why is your vote still on Mollie?


Simple. She's still my top scum read, right beside Jake.

I see you chose to ignore my post where I call you out for your reads.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #41) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:18 am

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Unrelated to the room claim I beleive I found out killers.

Bella, baby, butter. The 3 Bs

Lynch any for victory

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Post Post #344 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:43 am

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Just that I don't see anything from her that indicates her trying to find scum. My last game she was more able to find people scummy and vote. The fact that she doesn't really have any scumreads is suspicious. It's harder for scum to scumhunt and I suspect she's having trouble fabricating reasons.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:25 pm

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bella, baby, fuzzy doesn't have the same ring to it duh

my last post certainly wasn't stupid and it certainly was real, because it's the truth. Your play this game is nothing like monopoly. Your inability to find someone scummy until I call you out for it is also suspicious. You wait until now to vote someone and you don't even vote Serra, you vote Fuzzy? If Serra is scum you should be voting Serra.

let's hammer this girl already
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Post Post #356 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:28 pm

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In post 329, Baby Spice wrote:No one has struck me as hugely scummy.

That being said, I have high hopes that the room discussions will result in some good clues.

In post 352, Baby Spice wrote:Just remember one thing.
Serra is scum.


please explain how you make this transition. What did Serra do between these 2 posts that made you change your reads
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Post Post #358 (isolation #45) » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:19 pm

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so what about his posts re: the room discussion make him scum?
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Post Post #367 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:51 am

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In post 359, Baby Spice wrote:Please don't use straw man tactics. It's really annoying.

I'm not using straw man tactics lol

I asked a simple question that you keep avoiding. Why do you think he's scum?
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Post Post #371 (isolation #47) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:35 am

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I take that as an admission of being scum tbh. That wasn't a town reaction at all
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Post Post #376 (isolation #48) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:51 am

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She didnt claim
She didnt try to save herself
She did nothing a townie would do
She's scum
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Post Post #381 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:14 am

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Well nobody died so either scum didnt have a weapon or the person they tried to kill wasn't in range.

Will analyze things later when I get to a PC.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #50) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:03 am

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Doubt scum would hammer like that tbh, it draws unnecessary attention
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Post Post #396 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:16 am

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Micros usually have 2.

I was in the courtyard.

Once everyone claims locations I may have an interesting discussion topic but I need to know where everyone is.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #52) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:43 am

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MalaLibrary
JenCarriage RoomTrophy Room
BabyTrophy Room
BeliStudio
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Mala, Beli, and penguin whenever you get here claim, doesn't matter who and in what order.

Also it looks like we don't know if we are in the room with others cause I had no idea I was in the room with fuzzy.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #53) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:10 am

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BabyTrophy Room:dead:
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Post Post #400 (isolation #54) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:11 am

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damn the preview showed the dead smiley :evil:
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Post Post #402 (isolation #55) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:20 am

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and the plot thickens...
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Post Post #410 (isolation #56) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:07 am

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my gut cringed with 409

@ mala - nobody is pinning anything on mollie, we are noting that it's impossible for her to be in the kitchen based on where she was N0 and that is what we find odd.

The part about baby in the kitchen implies that is what room she was in on D1 which makes sense given where she was on Night 0

I don't even know why you brought up the other game on another site. it has no bearing on this one and I won't even mention what it looks like to me.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:09 am

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In post 407, shos wrote:I asked did you HAVE not did you USE an item.

did you have an item?

I had an item, i will go into detail once we clear up mollie's room blunder
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Post Post #417 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:07 am

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ok I am in the drawing room today and I just need to know if anyone else is in there with me? I am pretty sure I can prove 1 of 2 people lying.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:21 am

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Well shit, there goes my theory
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Post Post #426 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:25 am

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In post 423, serrapaladin wrote:Wait why are we claiming today's location?
Jake, what was your theory?

Read my post about fuzzy/shos and read the post quotes from page 1 about the random placement of items.

That was my theory going down the drain
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Post Post #440 (isolation #61) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:44 am

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exactly, why would she lie?
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Post Post #443 (isolation #62) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:01 am

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the fact you have a town read on beli is odd as hell, there is nothing in beli's iso that would suggest he's town
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Post Post #445 (isolation #63) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:16 am

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I said yesterday i thought beli was scum and have seen nothing to change my mind.

I do want to reread some things and hope to do that over the weekend.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #64) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:17 am

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vote: fuzzy


It's him or beli, my gut screams fuzzy scum
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Post Post #458 (isolation #65) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:25 am

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vote: shos


it just dawned on me that the fact that shos is trying to pain the mistake as legitimately scummy is a huge red flag imo. the mistake looked genuine enough to me and most of shos's play has been smoke and mirrors
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Post Post #460 (isolation #66) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:28 pm

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I removed my vote off of fuzzy to go to shos, tbh I am fine lynching either one of them
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Post Post #462 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:31 pm

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yes, I find 2 people scummy for 2 different sets of reasons, imagine that...
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Post Post #464 (isolation #68) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:34 pm

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I have found you scummy since day 1 and it hasn't changed so everything you do continues to add to your scumminess,
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Post Post #466 (isolation #69) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:39 pm

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no i'm not avoiding anything. your entire iso is useless, I don't see any legitimate attempt to scumhunt. you not believing mollie doesn't phase me at all because I am pretty sure you are scum, shos on the other hand was a town read day 1 but his push on mollie for something stupid doesn't make sense from a town perspective. Mistakes happen and I believe her, to say she is scum because of it is sketchy.

2 totally different reasons...
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In post 466, Jake from State Farm wrote:I don't see any legitimate attempt to scumhunt.
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I follow the flowchart for the win
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Post Post #472 (isolation #72) » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:50 pm

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EVERYONE VOTE SHOS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #476 (isolation #73) » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:03 am

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In post 473, shos wrote:fuzzy, until you give me that promised post with...CONTENT, then you are, indeed, and by far, the most useless player I have seen in a looooong while.

~~~

@Jake: so You had a townread on me, and then I build a case against mollie, and you pick something that I did not say(mollie picked that) and use it as a reason to vote me? just getting it straight~

No, I'm using something you did as a reason to vote you. What you did was scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #74) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:31 am

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In post 480, shos wrote:Tell me jake, where have i said that was scummy. Quote me. Ive never said that.

you used it as one of your reasons for voting her, you said something along the lines of "in addition to the "mistake" which means you are using that against her. Your case against her is pretty much crap also especially when you try to use AtE as if that is a scumtell. You are too experienced to be relying on n00b scumtells that aren't really scumtells.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #75) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:46 am

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are you retarded shos? the post you voted her was post 441 not 448.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #76) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:50 am

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I don't have to breakdown your case and prove why it's bad or wrong, that is mollie's job to do that,
idk what you are talking about aTa cause all I did was give my opinions
I had a gut town read on you day 1 and your play day 2 takes that away so yes I am going to disregard my day 1 read which was based off nothing and listen to my day 2 read which is based off something.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #77) » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:24 pm

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In post 493, Belisarius wrote:1) What's your stance on Serra or I revealing the results of Serra's night action
2) What is your preferred alignment?
3) What is the refractive index of perovskite?

1. I don't know how you know serra's result but if the result is somehow useful I have no issues with them being released
2. town
3. i'm 12 and what is this?
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Post Post #504 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:30 am

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you call it aTA, i call it my opinion. :shrug:
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Post Post #506 (isolation #79) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:20 am

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you were gone? :P
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Post Post #511 (isolation #80) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:59 am

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@shos, I'll break down your case when I get some time on a PC.
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Post Post #515 (isolation #81) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:01 am

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Only a moron would think they could get away with an obvious lie like that...
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Post Post #518 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:48 am

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But mafia can be lying to us the entire time. I would expect mafia to be more careful actually. I'd expect mafia to jump all over a mistake. It's what I would do tbh. Is that wifom? Sure but it's what I honestly beleive. It's lunch time so I'll get to going over your case and other things in a bit.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:04 am

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Here is your case broken down

I went through her ISOs. there's plenty of stuff to be wary about there, and nothing that givestown vibes.
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Such as?
AtE(for example, 430),

1. I don't really feel this is AtE 2. even if it is AtE is null

fencesitting(stuff like 385 - not stating opinion and yet asking for others' opinion.

deciding about claiming items is a group discussion item, it's not something 1 person can decide on their own. Plus if you are town and she is scum, she would be better off going with your suggestion if she were scum. her cautiousness reads town imo

also happened with my Mala case)

no this didn't happen. She said she doesn't have an opinion of you and she votes fuzzy. That is clearly not fencesitting

. there's also that wierd 'reaction test' with the both-fos-and-vote on the same person,

:facepalm:


so imo your case is weak and doesn't really have any valid scumtells or scummy behavior.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:01 am

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Well yeah which is why I thought it was pointless in me breaking it down in the first place but that's what you asked me to do. I said your case was weak aka I disagreed with you. Thanks for making me waste my time there shos.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:14 am

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Did you ask mollie why she was against outing the info?

Personally I'd rather people scumhunt and not worry about rooms/items.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:02 pm

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In post 528, shos wrote:I seem to be the only one attempting to scumhunt.

Ive done like five full isos this game. Passover is over today, i wont have as much time ti keep the game alive alone

you aren't the only one scum hunting don't kid yourself.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:46 pm

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Just saying it doesn't make it true. You have done NOTHING town motivated.

Fuck it

vote: fuzzy


That's my final answer
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Post Post #587 (isolation #88) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:01 am

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sorry guys, family emergency came up yesterday and gonna keep me busy today also. I will try and read up tonight/tomorrow.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #89) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:17 am

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unvote


serra's last post reads scum to me. that reaction is forced and not townish at all
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Post Post #598 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:29 am

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In post 597, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm not saying that the activity drop is a scum tell. ISO her. She was on the town wagon, soon as the flip comes she says one thing, and then votes me for no reason. looks too much like scum trying to divert town away from their lynch.

So why wait til now to say/do anything?

Btw, intent to hammer so claim after you answer.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #91) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:59 am

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In post 599, serrapaladin wrote:591 is Beli acting stupid when he's not.

Which part Jake? I was telling fuzzy to back up his vote and I was welcoming input from someone who hadn't been active. Also why the unvote without voting someone else?

Pedit: what the hell? Did you just unvote so you could hold the hammer? Also what do you expect from a claim? o.o

I unvoted cause I found your post odd but I also knew shos wouldn't hammer, I'm not afraid to.

RE: hammer - I forgot this is a weird mechanic so claiming is pointless.

It also doesn't matter how many days we have left, if we found scum and he's not really being helpful why stall?
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Post Post #607 (isolation #92) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:22 am

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In post 604, fuzzybutternut wrote:1.) I'm not scum.
2.) I'm doing the best I can with what I have.
3.) What exactly are YOU doing to help find scum, other than ranting about claiming you've already found one?

I've been able to say who I think is scum, say why I think they are, support it with evidence if asked to, speak up when sonething bothers me, and ask questions when I feel like I need more info.

I can honestly say you haven't done the same.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #93) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:24 am

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Someone who delays providing content is also more likely to be scum. There's no town motivation to deny town info. That's exactly what you have been doing fuzzy.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:50 am

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In post 610, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm not delaying anything. I don't have reads. I'm trying to gain them. I can't do that when I'm being hounded.

Coming from a person who said they were typing a huge post, I don't beleive you.

Scraping the "post" is a cop out IMO.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:31 pm

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In post 613, fuzzybutternut wrote:scraping the post was me realizing there was nothing in the post worth posting. Get over yourself.

I won't get over myself thanks.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #96) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:32 am

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In post 618, penguin_alien wrote:Jake from State Farm, Belisarius looks like he's scum hunting to me. Do you still have a scum read on him, and if so, can you point me toward what you find scummy from him?

in my opinion I don't feel he has been scum hunting. The reasons he suspected mollie and myself earlier were lulzy and he never really made a serious push to try and lynch either of us. All of day 1 he voted mollie but did nothing to convince others to vote with him.

post 449 he drops his scum read on mollie and myself saying the reason for suspecting both of us were the same, which just isn't true. His vote on jennifer makes no sense either. he hasn't followed it up with any sort of reasoning. The only reason why I am holding off voting him is he has hinted to being connected with Serra and I doubt he would do that if he was mafia.
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Post Post #632 (isolation #97) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:30 am

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In post 631, Jennifer wrote:@Jake Could you expand on your point that Beli has hinted to being connected with Serra? I didn't pick up on that.

the fact that beli knew serra used the rope on him (serra never said that in thread). beli asks me my thoughts on him or serra revealing what the rope did.

typically people in mafia games aren't told they are targeted or by whom so for beli to know this to me I feel like they share a QT together. Could be mafia. masons, or possibly neighbors. :shrug:
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Post Post #636 (isolation #98) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:10 am

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In post 635, serrapaladin wrote:Then you're insinuating pretty bad play on our part. I claimed having used the rope, and Beli knew what room I used it from. It would have been pretty obvious to him that he was my target, and I did indeed target the Conservatory. It'll be obvious when we claim what it does tomorrow.

but you were in the trophy room last night, you could have targeted 3 possible locations (carriage house, trophy room, or kitchen)

there is no way beli would know for sure he was the one targeted because you can choose to target a person OR a room. There is no way to gurantee that Beli would even be in the conservatory because from his D0 room he could have been in the conservatory or the billiard room.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #99) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:40 am

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No other game would a player know they were targeted. If the mod is doing that here ill be disappointed.
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Post Post #643 (isolation #100) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:19 am

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In post 640, fuzzybutternut wrote:Tbh, I don't think Beli is scum. He's not playing like he would if he was scum.

Less saying who you don't think are scum and more saying who you think is scum.

Since things are slow for me right now I'm going to reay try to look over some iso's and what not.
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Post Post #645 (isolation #101) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:48 am

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U played with beli scum? Can I have a link?

See if anything beli is more likely to be scum cause scum have to blend in and that's what he's doing IMO.
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Post Post #648 (isolation #102) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:51 pm

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Have you been scum on site in a completed game?
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Post Post #653 (isolation #103) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:48 pm

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what's a wiki? ;)
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Post Post #656 (isolation #104) » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:33 pm

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@ penguin

you never mentioned Baby's name until you put her at L-1, you claim her ISO was scummy. I want you to show me what exactly you had issues with considering you never pointed out a specific example


Also, you claim beli has been scum hunting and I claim he hasn't. Show me some examples that support your idea.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #105) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:26 am

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@ penguin, my mind must have transposed names. I like your responses to my question.

I'm also changing my mind on mollie, when reading up last night I got a scummy vibe.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #106) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:39 am

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some of what you said makes sense, plus if I am thinking about the fact that mafia would want to lie about their location, that slip really could have been a slip. Her play is much different imo to the game we just played together

so basically it's a collection of things.

I still want to lynch Fuzzy, he reminds me of another player that I essentially let slide all game and he turned out to be scum and I gave him the win. Useless players good or bad need to put up or gtfo
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Post Post #664 (isolation #107) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:53 am

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if fuzzy doesn't post something of value in his next post I am putting my vote back on him
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Post Post #668 (isolation #108) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:36 am

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vote: fuzzy


Hammer this bum.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #109) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:44 am

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I did? Cool I like hammering scum
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Post Post #672 (isolation #110) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:44 am

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My 180 on you? I read the thread
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Post Post #680 (isolation #111) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:40 am

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lol I'm like super obv town
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Post Post #687 (isolation #112) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:44 pm

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In post 684, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 672, Jake from State Farm wrote:My 180 on you? I read the thread


okay were you not reading it before? I mean what the hell I haven't even been that active the last few days cos I was preparing for my trip and I am not at home right now. what was "oh so scummy" about what I have posted? that I am on v/la on a trip that has been in the works for nearly a year now?

Reading as you go along and re-reading from beginning to end gives you a completely different perspective. I usually re-read games at least 10 times which is why my later play is usually better then my early play
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Post Post #688 (isolation #113) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:45 pm

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In post 682, fuzzybutternut wrote:Yeah yeah, what of it. I told you, I lost interest in this game.

If you lose interest, replace out. I hope you are just trolling and are really scum.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #114) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:56 pm

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If you honestly aren't into a game you hurt everyone else. I try not to replace out too but if I'm really disinterested I will do the mature thing.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #115) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:28 pm

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a player who can give reads and scum hunt is more helpful than you know
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Post Post #694 (isolation #116) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:30 pm

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says the guy who just got lynched...
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Post Post #696 (isolation #117) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:34 pm

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Having reads from a player scumhunting is > narrowing the lynch pool
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #118) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:41 am

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Thanks for killing me

GG town
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