Mini 1430 - Pokémon uPick Mafia (Game Over!)

[fuzzybutternut]

Hey paladin. This is pregame right?
Confirming too.

[fuzzybutternut]

Alright!
VOTE: Ms. Marangal

there's my official RVS.

[fuzzybutternut]

That's not a truly random vote.

[fuzzybutternut]

<3

[fuzzybutternut]

Normally, I'd be concerned, but, honestly, I'm not.

[fuzzybutternut]

l-3! Woohoo!

[fuzzybutternut]

You know, Upicks aren't the best places to quick lynch people. You never know what kind of odd roles will be out there.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hardly, though, i can say that lynching me will help lower the pool drastically, if not kill of scum simultaneously.

[fuzzybutternut]

that being said, let's get some information out of people before we start.

[fuzzybutternut]

[fuzzybutternut]

Seriously, though. If you're town and want to win this game, I don't care if you lynch me, just let me get some information out of some people first.

[fuzzybutternut]

I haven't claimed anything, actually, and I definitely wasn't saying "don't lynch me." In fact, why don't you take a look at post 33.

[fuzzybutternut]

It's just what I do, Mhork.

[fuzzybutternut]

I feel I'm going to be lynched or NKed regardless, so it's best to let you all know that whatever happens, as long as I have ample amount of information as to who scum is, I will not go down without a fight.

[fuzzybutternut]

I feel the love.

[fuzzybutternut]

Lol wtf is a jester bomb?

[fuzzybutternut]

If you would like, I can list the pokemon I sent, since that gives no real information at all. Would that help fix what you think my role is? Because I can assure you that I'm no "jester bomb"

[fuzzybutternut]

I planned on asking the mod first, but, trust me. I'm saying that I want to get an idea of who scum is, so if I am killed in some way, we can win this game easily.

[fuzzybutternut]

AH I do love being a VI sometimes.
Mhork <3

Also, I'm not gambiting town being set up. I realize i'm bound to be lynched or NKed eventually. I'm asking that we either narrow down the scum pool before that happens, so I don't end up killing a needed PR, or get the scums team down to at least 1, (i'm assuming there are only two), so that if I do get lucky enough to kill scum, we will win. :3

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm not claiming anything.

[fuzzybutternut]

He's rolefishing pretty hard. :/
Mad-Hatter, what gives?

[fuzzybutternut]

I told you I wasn't claiming anything.

[fuzzybutternut]

What soft claim.

[fuzzybutternut]

I've adopted a VI kind of style. I like it. Get over it.

[fuzzybutternut]

Tell you what Glork, let's lynch Serra, and if he turns up town, I'll shoot Seanald. Kay? Kay
VOTE: Serrapaladin

[fuzzybutternut]

Playing to my wincon, Mhork.

[fuzzybutternut]

And why HM, Mhork?
(This Mhork, Glork thing is confusing as hell, btw.)

[fuzzybutternut]

Does it matter what I'm softclaiming? Find scum, lynch them, and I'll take my best shot at who I think is next scum. Sound good? Good.

[fuzzybutternut]

The whole "I DARE YOU TO LYNCH ME, I JUST WANT TO KILL SOME SCUM FIRST" tells me it's likely an SK thing. That's some srs self-preservation. The supersaint fake softclaim didn't fool anyone, so now he's magically a Vig and "doesn't care if he's lynched" he just wants to kill someone first.

He could be, like, a Mafia Strongman or something. But nothing about fuzzy's play is remotely protown.

It's funny, because I don't care whether I get lynched or not. I'm still playing for town, regardless.
If you're going to lynch me, give me a list of your reads before you do, and trust in the name of the Fuzz.

[fuzzybutternut]

or get the scums team down to at least 1, (i'm assuming there are only two)

Why are you assuming that? It's most likely wrong.

Because I don't know how many scum there are? In every game i've played, there have been 2 scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

In almost every 13p, the default is 3 scum.

Wouldn't know. Never been scum in one.

[fuzzybutternut]

ninjad by fuzzy, post goes to oversoul obviously.

I have the power!

[fuzzybutternut]

Hold on. Need to look at something.

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, killed N1 in the only other 13p game I've played in. Ongoing game.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hardly, but it's funny you think so. Who's my partner then?

[fuzzybutternut]

If you're going to lynch me, you'd best make up your mind and come to a town consensus, so we can get one scum down.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hasn't helped much. Could be potential scum. His whole "I can lie down because I'm wagoned" thing throws me off a bit. I'll

FoS

him.

[fuzzybutternut]

No, Serra was a gut read. Hadmatter hasn't done much of shit.

[fuzzybutternut]

Limo is pretty scummy too, with his only wanting votes and not actually wanting to contribute.

[fuzzybutternut]

npiau-scummy
not for his vote on me, but for his reasoning behind it.

P-edit: I'm not too sure. Why don't you ask him?

[fuzzybutternut]

Because he accuses me of not doing something, when he has one post and has done literally nothing.

[fuzzybutternut]

seanald is pretty much town.
GNR-needs more posts but has a valid reason.

[fuzzybutternut]

Yes, but Iso him and look where his post is. Either he's active lurking, or just ignoring the game in total, which isn't pro town at all

[fuzzybutternut]

Then his first post shouldn't have been a vote with nothing behind it. It should have held content.

[fuzzybutternut]

TBG-That was clearly my way of kindly telling HM to back off.

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy has "not" claimed all sorts of crap so I suggest we give him one night to be a vig/be vigged.

Lol, i'm not a vig, and if you expect a kill from me over a night phase, I'm sorry to say that you will be disappointed.

[fuzzybutternut]

78 and 83 I believe. The posts you questioned me about.

[fuzzybutternut]

What exactly would you like to know about it?

[fuzzybutternut]

AH I do love being a VI sometimes.
Mhork <3

Also, I'm not gambiting town being set up. I realize i'm bound to be lynched or NKed eventually. I'm asking that we either narrow down the scum pool before that happens, so I don't end up killing a needed PR, or get the scums team down to at least 1, (i'm assuming there are only two), so that if I do get lucky enough to kill scum, we will win. :3

the tl;dr version is that I understand it's written in stone that I'm going to die. Scum would be in best interest not to kill me, because that may be bad for them. If I'm not NKed, unless we can find scum without it, I will eventually asked to be lynched. That's what I mean by this.

[fuzzybutternut]

PGO? Wtf is that?

[fuzzybutternut]

No, I do not.

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh, okay. Yeah, no. Not a PGO. Definitely.

[fuzzybutternut]

Like I said Glork, i'd really rather we lynch someone else today. We have a good chance of finding and lynching scum, which would make my job much easier. Lynch who you truly think is scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

point, acting, whatever you wish to be called, my wincon is the exact same as other towns, naturally. I am town.

[fuzzybutternut]

does anyone want to come in to defend Mad Hatter's dissapearance, there is no way that is fuckin town at all.

OH, I DON'T KONW. Maybe becauase it's St Patty's Day weekend. He hasn't posted on site since 2:30pm EDT on Friday.

For fuck's sake. People will invent ALL SORTS OF REASONS to pile bullshit onto someone when they can't defend themselves.




FUZZY, IF HM GETS LYNCHED AS TOWN, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO "VIG" (WINK WINK) SEANALD TONIGHT.

I'll see what I can do, Glork.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about, Seanald.

[fuzzybutternut]

Gah. WHY CAN'T POKEMON BE LIKE THAT ANYMORE!?!!?!?!?!?!

[fuzzybutternut]

Tbh, I'm a pretty easy target, because I suck at defending myself.

[fuzzybutternut]

^ wifom, ive been fooled by that before son!

that's not WIFOM. That's the truth. Ask Paladin.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hey AJ!

[fuzzybutternut]

Seanald, that literally sounds like "Your slot was scum, but I don't want to lynch you so you'd better act like town."

[fuzzybutternut]

No, but there are different ways to approach it. For all we know, something came up in Hatter's life. Or he just got uninterested in the game. Who knows.

[fuzzybutternut]

It's not a scum tell, Seanald. It's a null tell, at most.

[fuzzybutternut]

I was that way for the longest time, but it's not a town way to look at things.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hey guys, I'm back. Sorry. Had prom this weekend. >.< Will catch up soon, I promise!

[fuzzybutternut]

and serra, why the hell voltorb, most annoying asshole ever in the power plant, can't walk 2 feet without hitting one.

Not to mention it's constant need for self destruction.

Btw, and this is the whole reason i'm posting, wtf is Ascetic?

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm afraid I won't be back within 21 hours.
VOTE: TBG[/unvote]

I'll sheep wisdom on this one.

[fuzzybutternut]

le sigh.

VOTE: TBG

That's partly why I believe him. It's just that off kind of thing that happens in UPicks. First UPick i was in, we sent in quotes. Mine was from Mewtwo. I was vanilla townie. *shrug*

[fuzzybutternut]

So was that a hammer or not? I'm so confused..

[fuzzybutternut]

It was. Had to be.

[fuzzybutternut]

Wherefor?

[fuzzybutternut]

Wherefor?

[fuzzybutternut]

For the most part, yes, Wisdom.

[fuzzybutternut]

Why isn't he?

[fuzzybutternut]

*shrug* I'll sheep you there. You make a valid point that I missed.

[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: Seanald

[fuzzybutternut]

It was a gut read anyway. I was having difficulty reading him, and, like I said, the point you made was very valid.

P-Edit: Lol..fuffy.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hmm. Another difficult read.

[fuzzybutternut]

That, my friend Wisdom, is a good question.

I don't have many reads. Activity is low, and no me gusta.

I will, however, say that my beginning of the game gut-scum read is still alive.

[fuzzybutternut]

I assure you, i'm doing more than you think I am.

[fuzzybutternut]

Glork, I'm not a vig. I told you that.

[fuzzybutternut]

Tell you what Glork, let's lynch Serra, and if he turns up town,

I'll shoot Seanald.

Kay? Kay

You can shoot though, yes?

Yes and no.

[fuzzybutternut]

let's not worry about my role, guys.

[fuzzybutternut]

Not sure if tracker or scum trying to protect his buddy....

VOTE: Hyperion

[fuzzybutternut]

IN the universe that "Oh I'm scum, but i'll claim tracker and say my buddy didn't go anywhere last night, which would clear him of any night actions whatsoever."

Why does it matter? If I think they are both scum, then my vote on either one should count.

[fuzzybutternut]

Exactly.

[fuzzybutternut]

Wisdom, I'm not one to let little things like that slip by. What is normal for most, stands out as odd for me.

[fuzzybutternut]

Who said I didn't get anything? I get exactly what you're saying. Here's the question: Why did Hyperion claim?

[fuzzybutternut]

Saving his partner, that everyone thinks is scum?

[fuzzybutternut]

*shrug* alright, fine.

VOTE: Seanald

[fuzzybutternut]

DDD?

[fuzzybutternut]

DDD?

[fuzzybutternut]

>.>
I think he's hardcore trying to save himself from being lynched.

[fuzzybutternut]

RQ: Seanald, if you were scum, looking at the players in this game, who would you try to kill first?

[fuzzybutternut]

NK, that is.

[fuzzybutternut]

Actually, make that to everyone, please.

[fuzzybutternut]

Everyone. I'd prefer you answer though.

[fuzzybutternut]

Who is that to, Wisdom?

[fuzzybutternut]

Sorry, thought that was your answer to the question.

Can you answer the question then?

[fuzzybutternut]

why not, if I may ask.

[fuzzybutternut]

baby, care to answer my question?

[fuzzybutternut]

If it says Glork, it's prolly to Glork.

if you're worried about being outted as scum, then don't. There's a specific answer i'm looking for, and I don't think it's the answer you're going to provide.

[fuzzybutternut]

If it says Glork, it's prolly to Glork.

if you're worried about being outted as scum, then don't. There's a specific answer i'm looking for, and I don't think it's the answer you're going to provide.

[fuzzybutternut]

*shrug* suit yourself. You all wanted content from me, i'm trying to provide it.

[fuzzybutternut]

It

is

content, actually. Considering the fact that you have no idea of my motivations behind this, you cannot possibly say that it isn't content. That's just stupid.

[fuzzybutternut]

Maybe so, but I believe it will help us even more.

[fuzzybutternut]

Whats the premise there?

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm not entirely sure I agree with the whole "rule of three" thing, but I'm not entirely sure I disagree with it either.

[fuzzybutternut]

The way the setup worked, Mac, was that you were to send in three of your favorite pokemon and the mod would decide which pokemon you were and give you a role, I assume, based off that pokemon.

[fuzzybutternut]

Unless Mac is playing against his meta, he's town here.

[fuzzybutternut]

LOL @ vid

[fuzzybutternut]

...Splash.

[fuzzybutternut]

Huh? Oh yeah. Sorry.

Trying to figure out if that was hyperion claiming or not, and if it was, why?

also, are we just claiming pokemon now?

[fuzzybutternut]

Okay, I thought so.

Eh. I kind of agree with Serra. That's not how it looked when I read my role PM.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hold on, let me go re-read my role PM then.

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh. I do have a move. :S

Take that back then. Seanald's claim seems legit.

[fuzzybutternut]

When I find a better place for my vote, maybe.

[fuzzybutternut]

Have been.

P-Edit: Why mac?

[fuzzybutternut]

Okay, yeah. I can get on that.
He seems pretty opportunistic, too.

VOTE: Mac

[fuzzybutternut]

Just went back and ISO'd him. Comparing that to his other scum game, I realize I was wrong about that statement.

[fuzzybutternut]

My other scum game was nightless.

DIFFERENCE. Stop sheeping Wisdom.

I'm not referring to that one, Mac.
This one is ongoing, so I will say no more about it.

OMGUS Noted

[fuzzybutternut]

If you didn't catch my claim a LONG time ago, you can ISO me and find it.

[fuzzybutternut]

I love the difference in time between australia and the US.

[fuzzybutternut]

lol no.

What makes you think it was a trap?

[fuzzybutternut]

Kay, why aren't we voting Mac now?

[fuzzybutternut]

Restatement of my words?

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh, okay. I see now.

[fuzzybutternut]

What are your results, Mac?

[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: Baby Spice

That OMGUS was terrible.

[fuzzybutternut]

When you decide not to vote him until he votes you?

[fuzzybutternut]

*shrug* looked pretty OMGUS'y to me.

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, limo is very likely scum.

Aj, I can't kill anyone. My claim isn't bullshit. Infer for yourself what my role is.

[fuzzybutternut]

Wisdom, what do you make of 930?

[fuzzybutternut]

So you don't believe it then?

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, limo is very likely scum.

Aj, I can't kill anyone. My claim isn't bullshit. Infer for yourself what my role is.

Wisdom accidentally told me in the QT late last night.

He meant to type joat and typed your role instead.

Infer from that what you will.

Yeah, that is bullshit.
My role and JOAT are nowhere near each other, nor is there anyway you could confuse the two.

[fuzzybutternut]

So, Wisdom, what's my role?

[fuzzybutternut]

Well, I'm not sure if I believe wisdom or not. I'm not PGO though.

[fuzzybutternut]

Believe if you really do that or if it's a cover. I'm leaning more towards the fact that you really do that.

[fuzzybutternut]

Quite honestly, I think that an Odd and Even night JOAT on the

same

alignment is a big load of crap. In the event that I'm wrong, I'm leaving my vote where it is.

[fuzzybutternut]

I don't like Aj's call for fuzzy to claim. Looks a bit like nervous scum that want to know if they can target him or not.

We're on day 3. No 'kill' happened. Even as scum, I wouldn't be afraid of it. I already knew it was bullshit, but wanted to see what I was missing.

again, it's not bullshit. I would appreciate it if you would stop calling it bullshit just because you don't know what it is.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hyperion, Seanald, Aj, why no vote?

[fuzzybutternut]

Wisdom, why aren't you defending yourself?

P-edit: one moment, Glork

[fuzzybutternut]

Tbh, wisdom pushed that lynch pretty damn hard.

[fuzzybutternut]

Pretty sure I didn't stutter.

[fuzzybutternut]

fuzzy do you realize I am not defending here? We have a tunneled Glork who refuses to scumhunt and all I'm trying to do is get him out of his tunnel because we won't achieve anything this way. I've done nothing wrong and I have no reason to defend. So why are you asking me to "defend"?

Where did I ask you to defend. I simply asked why you aren't.

[fuzzybutternut]

Wisdom, there were two lynches you could have pushed. Why didn't you push AJ's?

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, Serra's. Why did I say AJ?

[fuzzybutternut]

do you still find it believable?

[fuzzybutternut]

So, Serra is Ascetic, right?

[fuzzybutternut]

Glork, calm the fuck down.

[fuzzybutternut]

God. I hate how wisdom plays sometimes.
He's too hard to read sometimes.

Sure, go ahead and claim.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'd rather not.

[fuzzybutternut]

Honestly, guys, if you can't figure out what my role is by now, then there's no hope.

[fuzzybutternut]

Think about.

Just think about it

.

[fuzzybutternut]

Because, in the slim chance that scum might not be able to figure it out, I may be able to stay alive long enough to

better my chances

at killing scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

I can't right now.

[fuzzybutternut]

Baby, what's your stance on finishing the mass claiming?

Do you think the mass claim will help or just give scum more ammo? Also given fuzzes attitude he won't be tellin the truth if he does claim anyway. I think it'd be better to keep some cards hidden and not give scum even more info.

Unless you can explain how it will weed out remaining scum?

Yeah, you're probably right.

[fuzzybutternut]

There's a shocker.

[fuzzybutternut]

Oddly enough, Alakazam wasn't in my 3, but he's my favorite psychic-type. :S

[fuzzybutternut]

Lol if Glork got neighborizer, he probably chose Mr. Mime or something. xD

[fuzzybutternut]

Can't think of any move that neighborizes

substitute maybe? Closest I can come.

Lol seanald.

brb, reading the list of claims

[fuzzybutternut]

The existence of a tracker and a watcher in one game seems kind of broken to me, as does the existence of an Odd and Even night JOAT.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm inclined to believe Serra's claim.
Hyperion, why didn't you tell us your ability?
Limo, I believe it's your turn to claim.

[fuzzybutternut]

Eh, yeah, but still. Something seems off about it.

[fuzzybutternut]

Good idea.

[fuzzybutternut]

Compromise: When everyone claims, ability and all, I will claim too.

[fuzzybutternut]

Reminder of what we have so far:
serrapaladin - Voltorb - Explosion (Ascetic Townie)
Hyperion - Arcanine -

???

(Tracker)
Seanald - Alakazam - 1x Future Sight (Watcher) / 1x Psybeam (Redirect) / 1 x Disable (Roleblock) [Even Night JOAT]
Baby Spice - Charmander - x Smokescreen (Commuter)
Glork -

???

- 1x

???

(Neighborizer)
Aj the Epic - Hypno - Psychic (Messenger)
Limo - Gengar -

Mean Look

(Non consecutive Watcher)
fuzzybutternut - Moltres - Vengeful Townie (???)
Wisdom - Eevee - Ability Cop (???)

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh yeah. One sec, I forgot what it was.

[fuzzybutternut]

Endure.

[fuzzybutternut]

Magnitude-Neighborizer?

what does Ability Cop do?

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy and Hyp, don't claim your Pokemon abilities until Wisdom clarifies his role as claims his results.

I already did.

[fuzzybutternut]

My thoughts? Hmm.
I agree with you on the commuter. I'd like to hear Wisdom's results, though.

I'm inclined to believe your claim, because, in my first Upick (which was a quote Upick) I chose a quote from MewTwo, which should've been a badass role, and I got VT. I guess it's just something mods do.

[fuzzybutternut]

*Sigh* I hate not knowing shit.

VOTE: Wisdom

[fuzzybutternut]

I just don't like the whole "waiting for everyone to claim, so I can claim a role that tells me other's abilities." thing.

[fuzzybutternut]

fuzzy, Glork, Hyperion, your abilities please.

actually, yes.

[fuzzybutternut]

No, you're fucking tunneling on me even when it makes no sense for me to be scum. You are not town and I am positive, and I wonder why I doubted that after I found you're 1-shot neighborizer, a scum role.

What makes 1-shot neighborizer a scum role? I've been neighborizer as town before.

[fuzzybutternut]

What search told you this?

[fuzzybutternut]

The wiki? Because i just scanned it, and you can't find anything about 1-shot neighborizer. The only thing on neighborizer that you can find is that it can be

any

alignment.

[fuzzybutternut]

Where did he change his claim, Glork?

[fuzzybutternut]

Umm...show me?

[fuzzybutternut]

Umm...show me?

[fuzzybutternut]

I have no questions, Glork. I'd say there is scum in one of you two.

[fuzzybutternut]

Yeah, I've never heard scum say that.

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* Fine, but I'll have you know that if we lynch town, and I die, I'm shooting you.

[fuzzybutternut]

I may change my mind, but I don't know.

[fuzzybutternut]

but you did ask my to claim my ability, after Limo had claimed.

[fuzzybutternut]

but you're claiming that you didn't do something, when you did.

[fuzzybutternut]

.....

like talking to a brick wall....

*sigh*

UNVOTE:

[fuzzybutternut]

Meh, I really still think Wisdom is just a townie who fucked up his claiming/crumbing.

Yeah, I'm starting to think the same.

[fuzzybutternut]

...you already said you thought it was obvious.

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* You know, I thought my role was obvious too, but I was wrong. Did you ever think, maybe, I dunno, you were wrong too?

[fuzzybutternut]

Charmander-commuter.

[fuzzybutternut]

^good point.
VOTE: seanald

[fuzzybutternut]

I've never claimed Bomb or vig.......

[fuzzybutternut]

Yes, I did.

[fuzzybutternut]

Baby, I made it hard to find on purpose.

[fuzzybutternut]

What is Limo again?

[fuzzybutternut]

Hmm. So, either scum didn't submit a kill, or they were blocked?

[fuzzybutternut]

Dunno.

No, Marangal. I gave you my claim, and it's nothing that can do any of that.

[fuzzybutternut]

*facepalm* why?
I can't do

anything

at night.