Mini 1520: Neighborhood Mafia - Game over!

ThAdmiral · Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:48 pm

Welcome to...

SetupThis is an open setup

1 town treestump

9 vanilla townies

1 mafia godfather

2 mafia goons

Daystart

aliveBolded = confirmed

notscience

morph the cat

FuDuzn

Sajin

Alduskkel

1baldeagle1

goodnight

Landmind

PrivateI

Balrog

Jake from State Farm

dead

MafiaSSK

-

Vanilla Townie

- Lynched Day 1

Mac

-

Vanilla Townie

- Killed Night 1

DrDolittle

-

Vanilla Townie

- Killed Night 1

Espeonage

Sanhora

-

Vanilla Townie

- Lynched Day 2

DrippingGoofball

-

Vanilla Townie

- Killed Night 2

ThAdmiral · Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:00 pm

rules1. This is a game. Have fun. Don't let things get personal.

2. During Day, you may vote for the player you want to lynch. Votes should be in the form

Vote: Player

or they may not be counted. It is helpful to "

Unvote

" when switching your vote to a different player, though this is not required.

3. Whenever a player has a majority in votes, that player will be lynched, his or her role will be revealed, and Night will begin. Once a player has reached a majority, Twilight will begin. No votes or unvotes will be registered, although talking may continue until the thread is locked. You may also

Vote: No Lynch

; a majority will end Day without a death.

4. If discussion lags or Day goes on for too long, a deadline may be set. If no one has reached a majority at the deadline, the person with the most votes will be lynched given that half the remaining players are voting, otherwise it will be a no-lynch.

5. During Night, players with role abilities may send targets for those abilities. Choices are due by the posted deadline, but day may start earlier if the choices are sent in early.

6. Don't edit/delete posts. Use the "Preview" button to look over your post before you submit it.

7. Don't quote any PMs from the Moderator.

8.

Mafia, werewolves, masons, neighbors etc. are allowed to communicate by PM/QT at all times

(i.e. not just during the night phase). Otherwise, do not talk to anyone about this game outside the thread.

9. When you are killed you may make one final post (as long as it is simply an "oh well" type post that doesn't reveal any game information), but then you are dead. Do not talk until the game is over; this includes talking to living players outside the thread.

10. I will send out prods at my discretion/on request. Players may be replaced if a prod is not responded to.

11. If you have any question, complaint, or comment, PM the Moderator.

game specific rules

Treestumps are not considered "alive" and as such do not have a vote, they do not count towards the number of their faction for voting purposes or game ending conditions, and they cannot be blocked/killed/removed

- If there are 6 people in the game and one is a treestump it is as if there are 5 people in the game, and the majority required to lynch would be 3.
- If there are 5 people left in the game and they are 2 town, 2 scum and 1 treestump the scum wins because they comprise half of the living players.
- etc.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:30 pm

role pms

1 [color=#0000FF]Town Treestump[/color] wrote:You are the Town Neighbourmaster!

Each night you may choose one player to add to your neighbourhood. Your neighbourhood has a max capacity of two players (other than yourself). You may replace a member of your neighbourhood, but only if they die. You may talk to the people in your neighbourhood at any time of day or night here.

Each night you may also give out one power role to each neighbour. If you do, this role must be used that night. You only have a limited supply of roles, and once you give one out it is gone.

The roles are all 1-shot, and they are:
- Bulletproof vest (if the player is shot that night they survive)
- Vig (the player chooses someone to shoot)
- Jailkeep (the player chooses someone who is blocked and protected)
- Watch (the player chooses someone: anybody who visits them with a night action will be revealed)
- Track (the player chooses someone: if they visit someone with a night action they will be revealed)
- Doc (the player chooses someone to protect)
- Nexus (any actions that target the player that night are redirected randomly to another player)

You are a treestump, and as such you do not have a vote, you don't count towards town numbers, and you also cannot be blocked/killed/removed.

Your role is very important and much will depend on your ability to choose wisely; both the players you add to your neighbourhood and the powers you give them.

You win when no mafia are left alive.

This game will be held in Coney Island, and here is a link to the game.

9 [color=#00BF00]Vanilla Townies[/color] wrote:You are a Vanilla Townie and you've got no special powers at night, unless of course you get chosen by the Neighbourmaster to become part of their neighbourhood. Otherwise your only powers are the ability to post, vote, and think.

You win when no mafia are left alive (even if you are dead by that time), so try to lynch well!

This game will be held in Coney Island, and here is a link to the game.

1 [color=#FF00FF]Mafia Godfather[/color] wrote:You are the Mafia Godfather!

You are a member of the mafia with XXXXXXXX and XXXXXXXX, who are your goons. You may talk with your partners at any time of day or night here.

Each night your faction may choose a player to shoot and, hopefully, kill. You must also specify which member of the mafia is making the kill.

Each night you may also give out a power role to each goon. If you do, this role must be used that night. You only have a limited supply of roles, and once you give one out it is gone.
Note: you cannot give a role to yourself, so if you are the last remaining scum you cannot give out roles at all. Also note: for the purposes of watch/track/block roles the gifting of roles is not considered a "night action" and therefore will not be detected/blocked.

The roles are all 1-shot and they are:
- Ninja (the player is unable to be detected by watch or track roles)
- Strongman (the player's kill is not able to be stopped by any form of protection such as a doc protect, the player can however still be blocked)
- Roleblock (the player chooses someone who is blocked)

If you are killed in any way you come back as the Zombie Mafia Godfather, and you become a treestump. Any roles you have given out will be refreshed, and thus will be able to be given out again.

If you are a treestump you will not have a vote, you will not count towards the mafia numbers, and you also will not be able to be blocked/killed/removed.

During the Day, try to blend in with the rest of the players, and get someone lynched, and also hopefully get selected in to the neighborhood where you can wreak havoc from the inside! (However you obviously cannot be selected in to the neighborhood if you are in Zombie mode)

You win when at least half of the living players are mafia, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game will be held in Coney Island, and here is a link to the game.

2 [color=#FF0000]Mafia Goons[/color] wrote:You are a Mafia Goon, and are a member of the mafia with XXXXXXXX, who is your Godfather, and XXXXXXXX, a fellow goon. You may talk with your partners at any time of day or night here.

Each night your faction may choose a player to shoot and, hopefully, kill. You must also specify which member of the mafia is making the kill.

Each night your Godfather may also choose to give you a 1-shot power role to use that night. He can do this even when he is in Zombie form, so if this happens try not to be too freaked out by it.

During the Day, try to blend in with the rest of the players, and get someone lynched, and also hopefully get selected in to the neighborhood where you can wreak havoc from the inside!

You win (even if you personally are dead) when at least half of the living players are mafia, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

This game will be held in Coney Island, and here is a link to the game.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:02 pm

Roles are all sent out!

Please feel free to confirm in the thread or by pm. Game will start when everyone is confirmed.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 10, 1baldeagle1 wrote:/confirm. This is gonna be awesome.

Hope so. Enjoying the vote of confidence though.

In post 13, goodnight wrote:/confirm n stuff

And let me just say I am delighted to mention that this head will be V/LA until Saturday evening in the EST.

Noted

In post 16, Landmind wrote:

1. Are roles issued on a per-night or per-neighbor-per-night basis? (Can the stump assign multiple roles per night if they're to different people?)
2. Do nexii redirect strongmen? What happens if one is targeted?
3. Can we refer to the treestump as a pumpkin?

1. Per-neighbour-per-night. Eg: it is night 2. Neighbourmaster selects a second player to add to his neighbourhood. He gives one of them a track ability, and the other one a watch ability.
2. Nexii do indeed redirect strongmen.
3. You'll have to ask the treestump.

Note: I didn't mention it anywhere, but once the game starts the treestump will be revealed.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:14 pm

In post 27, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Pretty sure that Sajin and Balrog siteflaked, since they haven't posted in about a week.

Yeah I noticed that, but I'm going to give them another day due to thanksgiving benefit of the doubt.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #31 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:45 pm

PrivateI replaces Balrog. Also looking for a replacement for Sajin. He hasn't site-flaked, but irl issues have come up which means he doesn't have the time to devote to mafia right now.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #32 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:48 pm

And FuDuzn replaces Sajin! I think we can start the game now.

The neighbourmaster is...

FuDuzn!

ThAdmiral · Post Post #34 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:05 pm

Welcome to Day 1. With 12 players alive it is 7 to lynch.

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Sanhora
PrivateI
Mac
Jake from State Farm

ThAdmiral · Post Post #36 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:15 pm

In post 35, FuDuzn wrote:This is the greatest role of all time, I can't be killed and I also can control people to do my dirty work.

Well technically they are free to choose what to do with the role you give them...but other than that it's pretty much as you describe it.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #111 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:54 pm

Vote Count

notscience - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
MafiaSSK - 3 (DrDoolittle, Alduskkel, 1baldeagle1)
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel - 2 (MafiaSSK, Landmind)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind
Sanhora - 2 (DrippingGoofball, Mac)
PrivateI
Mac - 1 (goodnight)
Jake from State Farm - 1 (PrivateI)

ThAdmiral · Post Post #197 (isolation #11) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:47 pm

Vote Count

notscience - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
MafiaSSK - 2 (DrDoolittle, Alduskkel)
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel - 2 (MafiaSSK, Landmind)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Sanhora - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
PrivateI
Mac - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Jake from State Farm - 2 (PrivateI, Mac)

Not Voting: notscience, Sanhora

ThAdmiral · Post Post #198 (isolation #12) » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:48 pm

In post 113, Jake from State Farm wrote:
Mod can we get a prod on sanhora please?

Thank you

Already done, and Sanhora hasn't picked it up so they're getting replaced.

In post 182, notscience wrote:
mod pls fix my bold tags ty

Done.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #220 (isolation #13) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:52 am

Espeonage replaces Sanhora.

Carry on!

ThAdmiral · Post Post #221 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:00 am

Vote Count

notscience - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
MafiaSSK - 2 (DrDoolittle, Alduskkel)
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel - 2 (MafiaSSK, Landmind)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Espeonage - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
PrivateI
Mac - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Jake from State Farm - 2 (PrivateI, Mac)

Not Voting: notscience, Espeonage

ThAdmiral · Post Post #291 (isolation #15) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:38 pm

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK - 3 (DrDoolittle, Alduskkel, PrivateI)
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel - 2 (MafiaSSK, Landmind)
1baldeagle1 - 1 (Espeonage)
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Espeonage - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: notscience, Jake from State Farm, Mac

ThAdmiral · Post Post #373 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:16 pm

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK - 3 (DrDoolittle, PrivateI)
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1 - 1 (Espeonage)
goodnight
DrDolittle - 2 (Jake from State Farm, Alduskkel)
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Espeonage - 1 (DrippingGoofball, Landmind)
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: notscience, Mac

ThAdmiral · Post Post #413 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:08 pm

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK - 2 (DrDoolittle, PrivateI)
DrippingGoofball
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1 - 1 (Espeonage)
goodnight
DrDolittle - 4 (Jake from State Farm, Alduskkel, Mac, DrippingGoofball)
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Espeonage - 1 (Landmind)
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: notscience

ThAdmiral · Post Post #431 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:00 am

In post 429, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
@mod, I think you missed FuzDun's replacement request at the top of page 17

So I did. Looking for a replacement now.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #436 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:04 pm

FuDuzn is replaced my Morph the Cat

ThAdmiral · Post Post #438 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:06 pm

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK - 1 (PrivateI)
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Espeonage)
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle - 4 (Jake from State Farm, Alduskkel, Mac, DrippingGoofball)
Landmind - 1 (goodnight)
Espeonage - 1 (Landmind)
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac - 1 (DrDoolittle)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: notscience

ThAdmiral · Post Post #540 (isolation #21) » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Vote Count

notscience - 2 (Jake from State Farm, DrippingGoofball)
MafiaSSK - 3 (PrivateI, Landmind, Mac)
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Espeonage, goodnight)
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle - 1 (Alduskkel)
Landmind
Espeonage - 1 (notscience)
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac - 1 (DrDoolittle)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting:

ThAdmiral · Post Post #541 (isolation #22) » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:12 pm

In post 483, Jake from State Farm wrote:
Mod, starting December 22nd through December 26th I will be V/LA

Noted

In post 485, PrivateI wrote:
@ Mod: Just had surgery and am kind of out of it. For all practical purposes, I may have limited access for the next three days or so.

Noted

In post 532, Alduskkel wrote:
V/LA until Thursday.

Noted

ThAdmiral · Post Post #578 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:33 am

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK - 3 (PrivateI, Landmind, Mac)
DrippingGoofball - 4 (Espeonage, goodnight, Jake from State Farm, DrippingGoofball)
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle - 1 (Alduskkel)
Landmind
Espeonage - 1 (notscience)
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac - 1 (DrDoolittle)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting:

ThAdmiral · Post Post #588 (isolation #24) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:53 am

In post 587, PrivateI wrote:
Mod, request prod on SSK.
On a semi-related note, I will be V/LA between December 25th and 28th for a conference.

Yep and got it.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #637 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:06 pm

Vote Count

notscience
MafiaSSK - 5 (PrivateI, Landmind, Mac, notscience, Alduskkel)
DrippingGoofball - 4 (Espeonage, goodnight, Jake from State Farm, DrippingGoofball)
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind
Espeonage
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Mac - 1 (DrDoolittle)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting:

MafiaSSK is -2

ThAdmiral · Post Post #646 (isolation #26) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:11 pm

In post 638, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
@mod, as I stated earlier, my vote is on SSK, not PrivateI

Which means he's at L-1.

My bad

ThAdmiral · Post Post #647 (isolation #27) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:15 pm

LYNCH!

notscience

MafiaSSK - 7 (PrivateI, Landmind, Mac, notscience, Alduskkel, 1baldeagle1, DrippingGoofball)

DrippingGoofball - 4 (Espeonage, goodnight, Jake from State Farm)
Alduskkel - 1 (MafiaSSK)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
DrDolittle
Landmind
Espeonage
PrivateI
Mac - 1 (DrDoolittle)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting:

MafiaSSK was a

Vanilla Townie

It is now night 1. Please get in all night actions asap.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #648 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Just letting people know that this first night is probably going to be a long one, particularly as it is holiday season.
I'll make sure to send everyone a message when we go back to day.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #649 (isolation #29) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:40 am

A new dawn breaks!

Sadly with the rising sun you also discover not one but two bodies.

DrDoolitle has been shot. He was a

Vanilla Townie

Mac has been shot. He was a

Vanilla Townie

With 9 Alive it is 5 to lynch.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #651 (isolation #30) » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:54 am

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Espeonage)
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind
Espeonage
PrivateI
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone else

ThAdmiral · Post Post #706 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 2 (DrippingGoofball, 1baldeagle1)
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind
Espeonage
PrivateI - 1 (Espeonage)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone else

ThAdmiral · Post Post #730 (isolation #32) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:55 am

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 2 (DrippingGoofball, 1baldeagle1)
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind
Espeonage
PrivateI
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone else

ThAdmiral · Post Post #731 (isolation #33) » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:55 am

In post 729, goodnight wrote:
This head is V/LA until Tuesday

-Good

Got it

ThAdmiral · Post Post #792 (isolation #34) » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:24 am

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 2 (DrippingGoofball, Jake from State Farm)
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind - 1 (Espeonage)
Espeonage
PrivateI - 1 (1baldeagle1)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone else

ThAdmiral · Post Post #811 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:40 pm

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind - 2 (Espeonage, goodnight)
Espeonage - 1 (Landmind)
PrivateI - 2 (1baldeagle1, DrippingGoofball)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: notscience, Alduskkel, PrivateI

ThAdmiral · Post Post #861 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:02 pm

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind - 2 (Espeonage, goodnight)
Espeonage - 3 (Landmind, Alduskkel, notscience)
PrivateI - 2 (1baldeagle1, DrippingGoofball)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: PrivateI

Espeonage is lynch -2

ThAdmiral · Post Post #862 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:03 pm

In post 848, Jake from State Farm wrote:
mod can you prod Private?

Done

In post 849, goodnight wrote:
@Mod: This head is going to be V/LA until the 18th. I'm getting my upper wisdom teeth removed and will be recovering.

Got it

In post 855, Espeonage wrote:The only reason I'm not replacing out instantly is because you're not a fucking real slot.

Cool it. Leave shit from outside this game outside this game.

Also don't egg him on morph.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #907 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:18 pm

Vote Count

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
Alduskkel - 1 (goodnight)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind
Espeonage - 4 (Landmind, Alduskkel, PrivateI, DrippingGoofball)
PrivateI - 2 (1baldeagle1, Espeonage)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: notscience

Espeonage is lynch -1

ThAdmiral · Post Post #908 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:18 pm

Sorry for absence, had shitty internet connection all week

ThAdmiral · Post Post #930 (isolation #40) » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:57 pm

In post 925, Espeonage wrote:
In post 1, ThAdmiral wrote:
9. When you are killed you may make one final post (as long as it is simply an "oh well" type post that doesn't reveal any game information), but then you are dead. Do not talk until the game is over; this includes talking to living players outside the thread.

In post 927, morph the cat wrote:Wow. That's a fucking shitty rule, Thad.

In post 928, Alduskkel wrote:Is Espeonage considered alive right now or not?

To clarify people are only considered "killed" after the lynch post. People can speak as much as they want in twilight.

Anywhoo...

ThAdmiral · Post Post #931 (isolation #41) » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:58 pm

THAT'S A LYNCH!!!

Final Vote Count:

notscience
DrippingGoofball - 1 (Jake from State Farm)
Alduskkel - 1 (goodnight)
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind

Espeonage - 5 (Landmind, Alduskkel, PrivateI, DrippingGoofball, notscience)

PrivateI - 2 (1baldeagle1, Espeonage)
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: no one

Espeonage was a

Vanilla Townie

It is now night 2

ThAdmiral · Post Post #932 (isolation #42) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:39 pm

Just to let you know I haven't disappeared, the game will start in 24-48 hours

ThAdmiral · Post Post #933 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:29 pm

Another day another dead body...

DrippingGoofball has been shot. He was a

Vanilla Townie

With 7 Alive it is 4 to lynch.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #960 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:22 am

Vote Count

notscience
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind
PrivateI
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone

ThAdmiral · Post Post #997 (isolation #45) » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:33 am

In post 968, Alduskkel wrote:
@Mod: Please prod morph, baldeagle, and notscience.

In post 972, Alduskkel wrote:
@Mod: Please, no prod dodging.

They are posting and that's good enough for me. I'm not going to start putting limits on what constitutes "content".

ThAdmiral · Post Post #1042 (isolation #46) » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:35 pm

Vote Count

notscience
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight
Landmind - 1 (notscience)
PrivateI
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone else

ThAdmiral · Post Post #1073 (isolation #47) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:47 am

Vote Count

notscience
Alduskkel
1baldeagle1
goodnight

Landmind - 4 (notscience, Alduskkel, goodnight, Jake from State Farm)

PrivateI
Jake from State Farm

Not Voting: everyone else

Landmind was a

Vanilla Townie

gg town, scum wins!

ThAdmiral · Post Post #1074 (isolation #48) » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:50 am

I'll discuss what I think went wrong in this game, and what I'd change if I were running it again, but that will have to wait till tomorrow/the weekend.

Town was incredibly unlucky in this game, but at the same time you make your own luck. Scum completely deserved the win.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #1096 (isolation #49) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:33 am

To start with when we discussed the set up pregame we were well off. Originally we had the game quite town-sided, and I think we made 2 or 3 changes too many (including the zombie-mafia ability, which was in hindsight definitely op). We still thought it might be slightly town-sided in its final form, but I think we underestimated just how pretty much game ending it would be if mafia get on the team.

That being said if the neighbourhood had got two actual town up and running from the start it would have been a completely different game. I guess the main problem becomes: two town in the neighbourhood = too strong for town. 1 scum in the neighbourhood = too strong for scum (don't even get me started on what would happen if 2 scum were in the neighbourhood!). This is problematic as it means it can swing too hard either one way or the other. If I was to run this again I would have to put some sort of checks and balances in to make the neighbour selection not completely decide the game.

Some of the one shot abilities I rejected (eg 1 shot cop) could probably be thrown back in. As someone correctly said in the neighbourhood thread (notsci I think) too many roles require you to guess the scumkill.

I don't necessarily agree that deadlines would have been the magic bullet to solve the lack of activity problem. I've been in many games where deadlines just meant the scum can lurk till the end of the day and then come on to join whatever bandwagon is most appealing to them.

I admit this game was somewhat of an experiment for me, and I apologise that you were essentially test subjects in what turned out to be somewhat of a failure. I think it could have worked better with a few different choices or perhaps a more active town, but this did highlight some fairly clear flaws in the setup itself.

In any case thanks for sticking with it to the end.

ThAdmiral · Post Post #1099 (isolation #50) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:18 pm

Yeah I would have loved more time to refine it. I actually went looking for help in the "setup review" and "open setup discussion" threads but got barely any replies. I only got people to help me review the set up when I asked them directly - bulbazak, Vi and Llamafluff (thanks so much for the help you did give btw) - and we only got to speak about it for a week or two before it went in to signups.

It was ambitious to try to put a mechanic that was clearly better suited for a larger game in to a mini, as it turns out overly-ambitious, but I'm not going to completely give up on the idea of having power-giving stumps in a mini just yet. I will definitely implement deadlines in any future games though.

Anyway here are the other qt's as well:
Neighbour - http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/iqrpFg9saCTK
Dead thread - http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/eAHSHjfQprTi