Mini 1538: POWERFUL WIZARDS (SpyreX Lives!)

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VOTE: Porkens

Been a while, eh?

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I'm starting to freak out just a little. Plum, can you throw me a lifeline here?

If by throwing you one I can find one for myself, I will gladly take up the challenge. However. Unfortunately. This playerlist does seem hellbent on being underreadable, and it looks to be one of those vicious cycle things, too. As in, I'm trying here, but the content is obtuse and sparse - really sparse. Any proto-wagons have fallen apart before even being worthy of the word. There's no sustained pressure or argument here from anyone about anything.

It sounds utterly stupid, but at this point I have a stupid mild Townread on Tammy because of the dream business. I wish I were kidding.

At this point the gamestate is a thorough wreck. Voting Katsuki is tenuously my best vote on scum - but it's hard when that's basically to say that she's

perhaps

the most deliberately underreadable player to show up in the thread. More than that, I have no way of guessing if it's my best vote-to-improve-gamestate. Which sucks.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Katsuki

But we'll try. Two is better than one to change the flow here, right?

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Whoops, sorry about that, Katsuki, my bad.

Hrrrrrrm.

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The hmmm was at Tierce, if that's what you're asking.

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If Fate said what he did deliberately, it might be a violation of site rules regardless of alignment.

Tierce, I think you may well be scum here.

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... meh?

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I'm ashamed of the state of my own scum game. Regardless. I'm skittish partly because you leapt so readily to my 'screw this, change gamestate' thing with Porkens. You didn't have any real frustrations with the gamestate itself and were willing to get together the slightest bit of friction with Porkens about it - but you very quickly jumped to the aid of what I presented as a general problem in response to Porkens - who noted one of your posts as a problem (and of those he noted, I only rejected Tammy as a real perpetrator).

This might clear up, sure - the gamestate is still rough.

[Plum]

Eh. I'll keep stuff in mind as things progress.

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I don't think Plum ever responded to my question regarding her statements of my play

You asked if I thought you scum, and if not, who is scum - which answer being maybe and I had no better leads. As I said - you were tentatively my best vote in terms of scumminess of target. My lack of grounding in the game meant that I wasn't sure this was saying much. Frankly, it still isn't, because I still feel I have no grounding in the game.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MafiaSSK

Dude hasn't voted since the reset - when he was voting LLD and declared Fate Town. Fine? His focus since then is muttering about Tierce's scum selfmeta??? It's just poking. It's not directive or constructive.

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Heck yes. She's pretty unreadable to me at the moment, and that itself may be a bad sign - but I don't know. Having little meta background because I've barely played for a year and a half is a blessing and a curse.

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Heck yes. She's pretty unreadable to me at the moment, and that itself may be a bad sign - but I don't know. Having little meta background because I've barely played for a year and a half is a blessing and a curse.

If you honestly feel meta is that needed, why not look it up?

I have no way of knowing if

me finding Tierce unreadable

is an inherent signal that she's likely scum or not. She may well, but I can't rely on it because I have next to no personal experience with her, and it's not something I can look up.

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Actually? Pretty freaking low.

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I might have targeted her tonight.

I'm not likely to claim anything that would give anyone any pause if they are, say, Vigging me, if that was what you were asking. If you're demanding an outright claim, I can do that, too.

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VT. Shadow Walk. I replied to Spy something like 'good old reliable Vanilla Town' when I got my PM.

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Unofficial vorecount because.

Katsuki

- 1 - Tierce, MafiaSSK, LnGrrrR, Kagami (L-2)

MafiaSSK

- 3 - Plum, Porkens, Tammy, - (L-3)

Plum

- 1 - ActionDan - (L-5)

Tierce

- 2 - Katsuki, kanyeknowsbest - (L-4)

Players not voting: Seanald

Any reason not to put Katsuki at L-1 here? Any reason to worry about selfhammer or whatever?

[Plum]

wrong tab, dammit, I answered your questions in it AD, hold on

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Plum can you explain why you haven't voted either one of tierce/katsuki even though you said the chances of one of them being scum was low?

Lack of confidence overall - as in, the reads around everything to do with Tierce/Katsuki feel super opaque to me outside of that feeling. Usually sure I'd leap onto a 1-v-1. I felt more ennui because I don't have a grasp on the situation beyond the fact that I don't think they share an alignment, to the degree that I'm not even sure where I'd start if we did lynch one and the one we lynched did flip scum. And I had no idea where votes were stacked on them or who was on the wagons. Just did a psudeo votecount:

Unofficial vorecount because.

Katsuki

- 1 - Tierce, MafiaSSK, LnGrrrR, Kagami (L-2)

MafiaSSK

- 3 - Plum, Porkens, Tammy, - (L-3)

Plum

- 1 - ActionDan - (L-5)

Tierce

- 2 - Katsuki, kanyeknowsbest - (L-4)

Players not voting: Seanald

Any reason not to put Katsuki at L-1 here? Any reason to worry about selfhammer or whatever?

[Plum]

to the degree that I'm not even sure where I'd start if we did lynch one and the one we lynched did flip scum.

hmm? why not just go back to voting SSK in that case?

Yeah, sure, it would be that or some similar approach, I expect. I'd feel just as lost, though, which is not usually how I feel after lynching scum? Kinda a weird thing to describe here.

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Reading AD Town here, actually.

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I'm around to hammer.

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Hammer tiem? Speak now or forever hold your peace &c. &c.

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Sorry everyone for sucking so much here.

VOTE: Katsuki just in case I'm not dead or whatever?

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double wat

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Porkens, once and always my knight in shining armor?

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headdesk from here to infinity

hope we haven't wasted actual SORCERY on me here

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MAJYYKS

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I sure hope this is the sign that we have herped all the way through the derp and come out the other side.

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A little less than an hour and a half from now.

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post hammer hammertiem?