Mini 1538: POWERFUL WIZARDS (SpyreX Lives!)

[MafiaSSK]

Vote Plum

For Kids Mafia never happening.

[MafiaSSK]

I only lurk to the extent that games allow. With BaM, I just don't usually.

[MafiaSSK]

I've voted. Got an issue with me not moving my vote every post?

VOTE: Tierce

[MafiaSSK]

Oh. I see. Yeah, I'm down for this plan.

VOTE: ActionDan

[MafiaSSK]

Why are you guys like that? It wasn't the most obvious thing ever.

[MafiaSSK]

I can't believe I have to explain this.

Tammy, if you can't understand why in a game with Katsuki/Fate putting Tierce at a 3 vote wagon is literally the most anti-town thing you could do in this game, then you should probably replace out of this one because you're going to be more of a hindrance than a help.

Except games aren't just limited to certain groups. So would you mind explaining?

[MafiaSSK]

Katsuki, you suck at lurking. Just thought you should know that.

[MafiaSSK]

Tierce+SSK+????

gg

So, could you explain this?

[MafiaSSK]

TIERCE CASE

Tierce's entire play this game has been playing to a scum agenda.

-The quicklynch. I'm with Kagami on this, and since Ive BEEN scum in a game with instant nights, I KNOW how tempting it is to push a quicklynch under the guise of "pro town play quick GOOGOGO" the fact that she DIDNT vote one of the lurkers and instead went along with Prokens RVS lynch CEMENTS the SSK/Tierce connection

-Not to mention the bullshit reasoning behind it. Low information is good for the scum? Scum need to co-ordinate night actions? I'm always for short days because my threshold of "information" is a lot lower than others but you literally cant speedlynch anything but toxic ass players (like RBT, Vezokipiraka) and expect it to be somehow it town's favor

-She then segues into a Katsuki vote, aka the easiest person to vote ever, further pushing her "speed lynch" as necessary and that all opposed to it are scum....

but HOW is Katsuki scum if he was around to submit a NK? is he scum WITH action dan? She doesn't mention this

. No its just arbitrary that people who don't agree with a speed lynch aer scum, yet she doesn't call out Kagami on this.

INTERNAL INCONSISTENCY

(buzzword taken from nuwen) is the key scumtell here from Tierce

-Then the Fate vote "for srs." For someone who proclaims to be well read on my meta and constantly refer to it every game, she know better than to call me out on shit like "avoiding a game" I

do not avoid games. ever.

you can read any of my games as any alignment, and if you think I have an avoidance/lurking scum meta you can seriously eat rope.

-Refers to Katsuki as a default lynch in #48, which is basically just how scum usually regard katsuki when he's town

-Wants to lynch me because I'm dangerous, and "pointedly avoiding the thread" (already exlpained why this is bullshit) , but then switches back to the Katsuki wagon?

-Notice the wording on katsuki vote. Because he's male? She went form super serious, speed lynch, lynch katsuki because hes avoiding the speed lynch, generate reads and content off her "speed lynch" theory thing, to LOLJOKE VOTES? Nah, this isn't consistent at all. She's just hopping around when its convenient

I actually really like this case. Fate's town.

[MafiaSSK]

Why would you kill someone on page 5, LLD?

[MafiaSSK]

Nope. Not good enough.

VOTE: LLD

[MafiaSSK]

Tierce, your wiki is hard to read, what are your most recent scum games?

[MafiaSSK]

How the heck is my wiki hard to read.

Games and Statistics. Games are listed chronologically.

Thank actually kind of hurts my soul, SSK. I don't know what in the words "Faction" and "Role" with Faction being even

color-coded

is hard to read.

Tabs are too fancy apparently, for my wiki-old mind.

[MafiaSSK]

(Hey Tammy I'm Towntelling a bunch get that vote elsewhere it looks kind of silly where it is.)

Why so worried about Tammy's vote? Also, if you know you are town telling then it could easily be faked as scum.

Huh-uh. I have that discussion in pretty much every game. If I could fake things decently my scumgame would be much better than it is.

I'd say you'll be able to tell when I'm actually worried about Tammy's vote, but apparently you're not--I was joking since she gave me such a good line. Yeah, I'm Towntelling quite a bit, but I know she takes her time to read me and I'm not concerned. If she's Town, she'll get there eventually or I'll mock her mercilessly in the postgame.

You have a 70% win rate as scum. That's hard to beat and really says a lot about how good you are. I think you could be cogniscent enough to be able to fake those things decently.

Granted, your scum and town games are really hard to tell apart. But I've only half heartedly isoed two of your games so far. More will come.

[MafiaSSK]

I feel like Plum has seriously been lurking. This is an issue.

[MafiaSSK]

I'm still a bit worried about tierce from yesterday but I'm going to ignore it *for now* >_< and accept paranoia might just be paranoia and wait and see.

I'm also just going to accept as town those who were on lld's town list *for now*

I also think kagami might be town based on trying to narrow down who the masons were, which was bad but she's new so probs doesn't know any better and probably would be a little more careful as scum?

So somewhere between ssk, longer, plum and porkens.

Why are you just going to accept LLD's town list as town?

[MafiaSSK]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MafiaSSK

Dude hasn't voted since the reset - when he was voting LLD and declared Fate Town. Fine? His focus since then is muttering about Tierce's scum selfmeta??? It's just poking. It's not directive or constructive.

No one's poking out as scum to me, except for maybe you. I don't always have to have my vote somewhere.

[MafiaSSK]

Heck yes. She's pretty unreadable to me at the moment, and that itself may be a bad sign - but I don't know. Having little meta background because I've barely played for a year and a half is a blessing and a curse.

If you honestly feel meta is that needed, why not look it up?

I'm still a bit worried about tierce from yesterday but I'm going to ignore it *for now* >_< and accept paranoia might just be paranoia and wait and see.

I'm also just going to accept as town those who were on lld's town list *for now*

I also think kagami might be town based on trying to narrow down who the masons were, which was bad but she's new so probs doesn't know any better and probably would be a little more careful as scum?

So somewhere between ssk, longer, plum and porkens.

Why are you just going to accept LLD's town list as town?

Do I really need to explain that? LLD flipped mason meaning one of her partners is in those town reads. Besides me leaning town on kanye anyway, I don't really have a read on seanald or dan, though have a slight town read on seanald. I don't think it's productive to crack that box today.

Sorry, I just wasn't connecting the dots there. But thanks for explaining your own perception on her reads.

[MafiaSSK]

@Spyrex, I believe my vote should be on Kanye. If not,

VOTE: KanyeKnowsBest

@Porkens, not willing to lynch anyone right now, as I would like the Day to go a bit longer. I am not a fan of Kanye ignoring my questions obviously, and I think Katsuki has been a bit too defensive against your case.

Why is your vote on Kanye again?

[MafiaSSK]

What makes me a good lynch? My lack of opinions?

Fine, I'll give a couple.

I think ActionDan might be scum because of just how much he's been inactive all game.

I don't like Kanye because despite being given the ability to be a potential town leader by LLD, he hasn't used it and has instead made vague statements. I know that's Kanye's way, but I feel like he does more sometimes and that this should be one of those times.

Tierce as best as I can tell seems to be playing her town game.

And I think my vote will go to
VOTE: LnGnnr
As hypocritical as it is, Ln has only had one vote this entire game. Yet, in all 35 of his posts, he makes vague accusatory statements without ever backing them up. Even he does vote for Kanye, it seems to be a vote out of frustration not out of reading him as scum.

[MafiaSSK]

SSK had a bit of confusing waffleness on reading me and that bothered me; I'm not sure how he eventually ended up reading me as Town (though everyone should!), but the problem with SSK is that he's inscrutable and kind of useless now and will be inscrutable and kind of useless until the end of the game.

How can I help you out there, Tierce?

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: ssk

Because, lurker and you can't read me?

[MafiaSSK]

What do we think the odds are of the katsuki/tierce thing being town vs town?

I think if anyone is scum out of those two, it would be Katsuki.

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: Tierce
Sorry Tierce, but deadline.

[MafiaSSK]

Yeah, let's elliminate the other lurker!
VOTE: Katsuki

[MafiaSSK]

Yeah, and it's not like Tierce is still voting Katsuki or anything when that wagon has shown itself to be possible! Kagami, honestly, have you never heard of compromising? It makes the world go round and sitting on a wagon that was not moving was not helping. Apparently there were others interested--so I went back. What in this shows that I would not be interested in lynching Katsuki

or

that compromising at deadline is a move Town would not make?

I'm concerned with how you had these points about morality and me being Town and now you're sitting with a vote on me as deadline nears and don't actually seem to have reviewed the game.


SSK, I'd still like an explanation of why you're Townreading me.

I can't see you being scum. I know I was confused before, but I just can't see it here.

[MafiaSSK]

Magic Aura, townie is my claim.

[MafiaSSK]

Wtf.

[MafiaSSK]

well ok.

um.

SSK can you answer my question I posed you earlier: i.e, why'd you call me scum for being inactive while Plum/Seanald were as well?

You were the most inactive one at the time

[MafiaSSK]

VOTE: Katsuki

[MafiaSSK]

SpyreX, please give town another 24 hours.

[MafiaSSK]

we should nl, right?

[MafiaSSK]

erm sorry, bad calculations. ignore that.

[MafiaSSK]

ssk who's interesting in this game to you with like a sentence on why would be nice (doesn't have to include a read on them if you don't want)

Kanye's pretty interesting.

[MafiaSSK]

feel like i should point out that my posting isn't exactly STRONG OPINIONZ either but you're probably judging me less harshly because i just got in here and meh.

porkens do you have thoughts on ssk aside from the possible slip?

Gamma why do you like to question people so much?

Mod: I'm going to be VLA tomorrow through Saturday.

[MafiaSSK]

You've gotta be kidding me. Deadline's tomorrow and there's no leading wagon? Why is this?

[MafiaSSK]

MAFIASSK - why is it that tierce is the only person you really tried to show you were reading?

I've been gone for half the day and the other half I was lurking?

[MafiaSSK]

I also don't think I can see Kanye being scum.

[MafiaSSK]

MAFIASSK - why is it that tierce is the only person you really tried to show you were reading?

I've been gone for half the day and the other half I was lurking?

awsesome. who's scum?

Best guess would be Kagami. Care to convince me on Porkens?

[MafiaSSK]

Vote:Kanye

Now we're all tied plural and shit.

[MafiaSSK]

Vote:Kanye

Now we're all tied plural and shit.

why are you voting me instead of kagami if you think that im town and shes scum?

Because I don't want myself getting lynched and I don't think SpyreX would have two lynches, so I think we'll both be good.

And yeah, I've already claimed Magic Aura, VT.

[MafiaSSK]

Ok we have four or so hours until deadline. I don't like SSk's willingness to push kanye for the lynch when he thinks Kanye is town.

@SSK, if you are a vanilla, and you think Kanye is town, why aren't you pushing another case? Why are you ok with pushing Kanye to claim?

Because we are literally 3 hours to deadline and I don't want a swing lynch.

[MafiaSSK]

I guess I should post my final scumreads
Kagami and gama

Town:
Kanye, tammy, lngrr

Everyone else is null

[MafiaSSK]

except I never do shit with my posts. I just post.