Mini 1538: POWERFUL WIZARDS (SpyreX Lives!)

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vote tbird

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but i wanna vote teirceo . . .

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but i wanna

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:<

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hello im home now why is this thread only a page and a half fucking long?

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who wants to post w. me before i go 2 bed in a minute

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is ]porkens scum,? canm someone tell me that

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tammy i believe u dont quite understand the conditions under which i do what youre thinking of.

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vote portkio

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re: fate does anyone have a n0 guilty on him? i think that would be pretty dope

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ActionDan Jan 05, 07:35am Jan 05, 07:40am 0 days 16 hours 2
LnGrrrR Jan 05, 06:13am Jan 05, 06:13am 0 days 17 hours 1
Katsuki Jan 05, 03:40am Jan 05, 03:41am 0 days 20 hours 2
Plum Jan 04, 11:09pm Jan 04, 11:09pm 1 day 0 hours 1
seanald 0
fate zero


what the fuck yall

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lambda are you scum this game :<

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wtf

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lol

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@Kanye: I'm trusting you to lead this town to the promisedland, ok? Trollkastel solidarity and all etc.

ill fuckin try but only because of the sick lou reed you posted

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i think lingerer might be scum, but it might also be his play style.

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ty i appreash thjat.

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those are actually good reads i like those reads.

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i think im pretty good @ reading katsuki so im not real concerned abt that 1

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did you know that to this day i have still never once seen tierce as scum despite playing like 10+ games w. her ?

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gamblers fallacy says she must be scum in this game.

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@Lady, what if Fate was a cop, doc or something along those lines? Would you still be satisfied?

what do you hope to get out of this question?

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?

that reads list is dope actually

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like sure some of its questionable but the parts that matter are good

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seanald and plum are ppl i wouldnt be able to place on a list yet and kagami felt town to me but i havent given too much thought to it. ssk i dont think ive ever town read so i wouldnt disagree w. that one. porkens lingerer tammy dan are all apropriately placed

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whihc parts do uhate

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thats where im leanin 2 tam :<

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vote linger

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thats where im leanin 2 tam :<

Now this is interesting. Tammy I can give a pass on but you? I'll be very sad if you're scum this game.

we both know that if i was scum id townread you and take you for a ride so it makes me real sad that youd say this

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yeah theres honestly no reason trying to puzzle out fates alignment at this point since either lambdas telling the truth or this is the most convincing fake dayvig ive ever seen.

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lol

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you were right lambda i think someones alignment just became real apparent

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vote tiercioe

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gamblers fallacy niot so fallacious 2day

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okay you were right lambda.

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how come you felt the need to justify a case on fate after he was dead then

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that was a really obvious real vig. i know youve seen enough fakevigs to be able to identify real ones.

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power bussing as a common scumfate strategy? yep
lack of further wifom after he was dead? he felt the tierce distancing was just the right amount
effort posts by tierce about wow fates scum lambdas so great after the a very easily recognized as genuine vig? yep

pretty sure youre scum tierce. might wanna check your role pm again 2 verify

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teirce do you really have exactly 69 games played thats so dope

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yeah thats exactly what i said youre right

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id diont think that links verry informative

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Wait, Fate's role was Dream, Tammy had a dream OMFG LYNCH!@!!!!!

(Kanye, am I doing it right?)

huh

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Tierce, I might come back to this later, but ultimately I don't think it is very productive.

I still want Kanye to answer why he thinks Lady's reads were good.

why do you only care about that part now and not also the other question you originally paired this with

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What is non-alignment indicative about asking a person their thoughts on a t/s list they agreed with, again?

Right now, leaning towards you and Kanye. I think Tammy and Porkens are town. Going to be looking more at Plum since Lady flipped town and said it was likely that either Porkens/Plum was a scum/town pairing in some fashion. (She was right about Fate being scum, so I'm willing to give her post/reads more credence.)

why am i scum? is it because i wont answer your question? if so whats the scum motivation there for me to avoid answering your question?

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plum do you still think theres a chance tierce is scum?

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lack of*

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can we lynch tierce

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What makes me a good lynch? My lack of opinions?

Fine, I'll give a couple.

I think ActionDan might be scum because of just how much he's been inactive all game.

I don't like Kanye because despite being given the ability to be a potential town leader by LLD, he hasn't used it and has instead made vague statements. I know that's Kanye's way, but I feel like he does more sometimes and that this should be one of those times.

Tierce as best as I can tell seems to be playing her town game.

And I think my vote will go to
VOTE: LnGnnr
As hypocritical as it is, Ln has only had one vote this entire game. Yet, in all 35 of his posts, he makes vague accusatory statements without ever backing them up. Even he does vote for Kanye, it seems to be a vote out of frustration not out of reading him as scum.

how do you propose i go about lynching tierce ? would you like to vote tierce w. me instead of reaching for the low hanging fruit?

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I don't like Kanye because *snip*

vague statements

. I know that's Kanye's way, but I feel like he does more sometimes and that this should be one of those times.
Even he does vote for Kanye, it seems to be a vote out of frustration not out of reading him as scum.

You're saying Kanye is making vague statements, but that isn't scummy.

But me voting him for not explaining his reads, that IS scummy.

Uhm... sure.

You know frustration and scumhunting aren't mutually exclusive, right?

question: are you a skimmer or do you fully read posts? do you check isos of people you suspect?

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its depressing trying to lynch you.

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i wish you werent scum

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dont believe you are a genie.

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perhaps a cursed monkey paw at best. and we know hopw those fuckers turn out.

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I treat Dayvigs as an action that doesn't resolve until the mod comes around (gasp!). So kind of poking at things while I could felt pretty natural and I don't think believing one way or the other is really alignment-indicative for anyone--since it was something that the scumteam obviously didn't know about and thus shared in the low-information status of the rest of the game.

you dont see any benefit someone who is scum might believe they could garner from going into bus mode on a buddy that is very likely about to be dayvigged?

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Where did I pretend the dayvig was fake?

did you believe the dayvig was real or fake while it was going down?

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tammy i dont believe i really understand your town read on linger would u miond explaining it 2 me ?

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i got scum vibes from that. it reminds me almost beat for beat of zdeneks d1 towards me in farapick.

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i still very much want tierce lynched btw.

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i got scum vibes from that. it reminds me almost beat for beat of zdeneks d1 towards me in farapick.

Yeah but zdenek is experienced and probably trying to mimic his town play. He also does stuff like that as town. Lngrrr is a newer player who comes from mtgs where from what I've experienced have different expectations for play and behavior. I can see a newer player getting frustrated like that. His frustration feels real and not overdone the way some people try to mimic it as scum.

It's not the strongest read in the world, but it feels townish.

what do you think about the posturing he was doing while the daykill was up in the air? thats the other thing that i had goin that made me think scum.

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i still very much want tierce lynched btw.

You don't think she's come across townish?

not really. is there anything in particular thats jumping out at you that i should really reassess?

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you dont think shed be frustrated here as scum?

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7 hours til deadline i believe.

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btw, I

am

switching to katsuki if he doesn't make an appearance before I go to sleep tonight.

any particular reason why?

This should be obvious. You're input is necessary, and saying this caused you to appear.

what input were you hoping to get out of katsuki here?

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Honestly, Katsuki's attack on me makes no sense. She has thought Tierce is scum from the beginning, and Tierce and I get into a huge fight, and all of a sudden she throws suspicion on me now? Not a fan.

Okay, maybe he is just bad.

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id rather deadline ssk over katsuki atm

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but id rather rather just lynch tierce imo

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What's your read on katsuki kanye?

early d1 i was leaning scum but thats been mollified a bit lately due to his general behavior (also the scumfate flip) and that im p positive he and tierce are not scum together.

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Tierce except I'm on my strongest scum read.

Why does the scum fate flip point to town katsuki? Do you think that any of the posts I've pointed out as fake actually are fake or just katsuki?

Also tierce what do you think of Kanyes scum read on you?

You are? But you keep saying you're not sure, that you don't trust any of us, and you're justifying your vote with "I'm on the largest wagon" (which I've just disproved). That isn't really the beahvior of someone who has any sort of confidence in her scum read.

kanye's justification for scumreading me sucks, especially the part about thinking Katsuki is Town while kanye is conveniently voting me. But guess what, it's two and a half hours to deadline and that wagon isn't happening, so!


ActionDan--can you

please

stop being useless now and vote a wagon that has a chance to go through? Thanks.

why are you putting words in my mouth

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Tierce except I'm on my strongest scum read.

Why does the scum fate flip point to town katsuki? Do you think that any of the posts I've pointed out as fake actually are fake or just katsuki?

Also tierce what do you think of Kanyes scum read on you?

believe that katsuki cheerleading scumfate in that situation is less likely to come from partner katsuki. its possible but along w. everything else im not ready to lynch katsuki @ this junction

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like 3

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please tell me how my voting you has anything whatsoever to do w. my read on katsuki

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@tierce also believe youre trying to say that the only reason id vote ssk over katsuki is because i think youre scum? which is p much incredibly wrong and i have no idea how you came to that conclusion

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vote ssk

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Feeling a bit better about tierce being town. Feeling worse about the cotton my brain has become. I need sleep.

Katsuki is Post 554 is more of his fake sounding posts.

who and what are you again? replaced seanald right?

that was a tammy slip iirc

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seanald owns

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im so glad hes in this game instead of like greyice or paschendale

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you better

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looks real to me

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ActionDan,

Erase, Mason Suicide Bomber

has cast herself D1.

actiondanielle

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rip kats

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at least we learned that porkens is town from that

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vote kagamin

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ill hammer ssk if we get another vote before i go to bed

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actually no i wont. believe the quicklynch to lock scum out has a bit of a hole in it:

kanyeknowsbest Jan 05, 07:32am Jan 13, 09:56pm 0 days 0 hours 85
Porkens Jan 05, 12:02am Jan 13, 09:56pm 0 days 0 hours 40
Tammy Jan 05, 10:54pm Jan 13, 09:55pm 0 days 0 hours 81
SpyreX Jan 03, 09:51pm Jan 13, 09:49pm 0 days 0 hours 17
Katsuki Jan 05, 03:40am Jan 13, 09:48pm 0 days 0 hours 65
LnGrrrR Jan 05, 06:13am Jan 13, 09:43pm 0 days 0 hours 49
Gammagooey Jan 13, 09:42pm Jan 13, 09:42pm 0 days 0 hours 1
Tierce Jan 05, 12:30am Jan 13, 09:37pm 0 days 0 hours 119
MafiaSSK Jan 05, 12:09am Jan 13, 09:26pm 0 days 0 hours 31
Plum Jan 04, 11:09pm Jan 13, 09:14pm 0 days 0 hours 29
ActionDan Jan 05, 07:35am Jan 13, 09:13pm 0 days 0 hours 45

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tammy what did you think of porkens reaction to the ad shot? i actually thought it was really fuckin towny

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also i want to say kagami is town cuz gut

i wont because hearing possibly differing opinions before i go pushing it would be pretty cool and interesting but like

i want to.

her bit about what scum were thinking in their qt and putting up appearances of hunting off of that, the way she was fishing for any excuse to move her vote to the katsuki wagon before the 2nd dayvig, her generally weird stance on tierce

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also i want to say kagami is town cuz gut

i wont because hearing possibly differing opinions before i go pushing it would be pretty cool and interesting but like

i want to.

her bit about what scum were thinking in their qt and putting up appearances of hunting off of that, the way she was fishing for any excuse to move her vote to the katsuki wagon before the 2nd dayvig, her generally weird stance on tierce

^ reasons why my opinion differs than yours

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cus i would have rather had ssk eat the rope instead?

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moreover katsuki is a player im generally very good at reading, so unless i have a very good scumread on him id rather keep him around to continue developing a read on

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ssk? not so much.

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ganbare gammachan

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what about her

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nope. im just gut towning off of that i havent had a chance to go back and read his other shit from this perspective and see if it meshes up yet. id like 2 hear your reasons for kagami town when youre up 2 it tho

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There's only one reason you would do that.

unvote

Vote: Gammagooey

whys gamma scum?

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porkens is the post that grabbed my interest here.

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kagamis still my prime scumspect. i have my doubts about linger still as well.

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not sure why youd wanna vote me thosry

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do you think gamma is scum tammy? cus he looks pretty town to me

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what do you think about kagamin

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like throw out that mason hunt thing cus thats a garbage tell. what do you think about the rest of her play

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I thought you thought that lnnggrr was bad?

thats what i said?

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what do you think about her fishing for a reason to switch from her tierce vote to a katsuki vote near the end of d1? cus thats the real fuckin meat of my scumread on her

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I thought you thought that lnnggrr was bad?

thats what i said?

bad town, sorry it's late.

yah i threw that out as a possibility.

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hes done very little since then to further engender that feeling tho :\

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its that she felt she needed one

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instead of just voting katsuki (which she clearly wanted to do) she needed to save face somehow to back down from her tierce vote

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you always feel that way

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kagami what was your problem w. lambdas reads list and why did you not comment on it at the time if thats apparently a big deal to you?

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Just realized he also didn't post between ADs kamikaze and the katsuki lynch, but was clearly watching the events unfold.

also would like to know how you are aware of my personal activity to such a degree that you can state what i was or was not doing so confidently

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lets put aside your terribly flawed and presumptuous reasoning; for what reason do you think i was avoiding the thread ?

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lets put aside your terribly flawed and presumptuous reasoning;

for what reason do you think i was avoiding the thread ?

dont dodge the question dear

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yah actually i do think theres zero benefit to not posting in that period as scum. and i think you are trying to point out old as fuck textbook scumtells without any thought about their application. also beautifully ignorant application of meta, can only assume its intentional.

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uh oh, look i didnt post for an hour. i must have been f5ing the thread this entire time avoiding giving comment until now

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im pretty happy w. my kagami read @ this point. dont believe my votes goin newhere else for the remainder of the day

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Okay I'm just going to go with kagami town then. I think that the way she's been going about things looks town. Some of her questions or points seem a bit odd, but they look like they come from actually trying to figure out the game, so town.

i really disagree w. you. i see a lot of looking for "scumtells" and not so much looking for motivation or intentions. i see a new player looking for things that are listed in the wiki as "scumtells" which are more likely to just catch town than actual scum since any scum with any experience knows them, which is at odds with what i expected from someone nomd for rising star and lauded as a up and coming strong town player. i see bad meta application and bad nk analysis. these are all things id expect from either scum or a new town player who just read the wiki and was struggling to figure out how to play.

thats how it looks to me.

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dear porkens, do tell me which things ms kagami is saying that resonate w. you

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is it the terrible nk analysis that doesnt make any sense? is it her awful meta analysis? or is it her knowledge that i do infact just sit at my computer for hours on end f5ing mafias cum.net especially while waiting for the mod to get around to doing flips?

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so you read and agreed w. all of those points and checked the relevant bits in my iso and said, yes, i agree w. these conclusions that kagami has drawn?

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lol no

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Kanye, why are you so reluctant to put up a T/S list?

what makes you believe this? im pretty positive ive been fairly vocal about my reads and stances

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the fuck?

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you have 5 posts today and have not voted at all.

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Kanye, why are you so reluctant to put up a T/S list?

what makes you believe this? im pretty positive ive been fairly vocal about my reads and stances

You dodged my "which of lady's reads do you like/dislike" question numerous times, and haven't put up a simple T/S list. Have you put one up somewhere that I have missed?

you do realize that i explicitly gave my likes and dislikes abt her list while she was alive, right?

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tammy i dont really see how im being passive here and not trying to strongarm lynches. i pushed pretty hard for tierce d1 and im pushing pretty hard for kagami today. its hard to make a lynch happen when literally the only person who will engage with you cant make her mind up about a single thing

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also yeah, check scummies d1 for how i would treat tierce as scum (hint its a lot of buddying.) i put her in the same class as fate town: not someone i want to argue with but am 100% okay with her pushing other people to make life easy for me. though she usually needs to be nightkilled sooner than fate.

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Vote:Kanye

Now we're all tied plural and shit.

why are you voting me instead of kagami if you think that im town and shes scum?

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thats not how plurality works.

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also you just put me at 2 votes when you could have also put kagami at 2 votes isntead? it doesnt makes ense to me

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Kanye, you asserted that there is no scum motivation to avoid posting during the period between AD's flip and the lynch.

Why did you not consider the possibility of there being a no lynch for lack of votes a very real and obvious scum motivation?

you dont think that me showing up half an hour before the stated deadline might have had something to do w. the fact that it was half an hour before the stated deadline? dunno thats the 1 i would have assumed before going into weird conspiracy thread avoiding shenanigans when dealing w. a player who as scum is skilled enough to fake post flip interactions really genuinely.

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still super eager to make kagami dead but i diont see support comin thru for that here. im getting flashbacks to every time i watnted lynch titus scummy piece of fuck ass and didnt get the support there neither. will feel pretty vindicating postgame i bet.

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I'm trying to read 935 and it's not easy.

esl?

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Ok, it avoids the main point: If it were not plurality lynch, then it would be very obviously desirable to scum for there to be a no lynch, and it would be very hard for scum-kanye to show that he's present, but is allowing a no lynch to occur.

this argument makes sense if i vanished until after the stated deadline. this isnt what happened.

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you are arguing that i was trying to create a no lynch, instead of simply walking away to do other shit while waiting for spyrex to resolve the daykill. you are using the fact that i showed up before the deadline as evidence that this is what i was doing. its presumptuous as fuck and reeks of trying to turn something that was town motivated into PROOF OF SCUM

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every single one of your arguments that i am scum are either based in fabricated made up fantasy land or are contrived as fuck. and i think its because youre fucking scum as hell

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I don't care that you showed up before the deadline... I care that you were clearly present for the events, but didn't post until after the lynch.

guess what it matters because youre trying to assign a different cause to my showing up in the thread than what is the more logical and easily believable cause

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It's possible that you walked away for exactly that period, sure, but I now have another problem: it's very, very obvious that there's a scum motivation to avoiding the thread. Why did you say there wasn't?

because if i was scum here i would rage like fuck and avert the katsuki lynch and push it elsewhere. i fucking love katsuki town as kanye scum and its a powerful asset i would not let be easily discarded. then also consider that theres no scum demerit for me acquiescing and making a lynch go through and i get free as fuck townpoints from Looking Really Town in the post hammer period. you are underrating the fuck out of my scum game and its goddamn insulting.

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hey ssk, where did you disappear to. its 4 hours til lynch and youre L-1 and not attempting to push any other wagon, just meekly putting your vote on a town read and hoping kagami will push it through. whats the deal buddy?

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my only concern is i dont see ssk and kagami being a scumpair.

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i dunno where i want to lynch nemore. im gonna try and reread some shit

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tammy if you turn out to be scum this game im gonna be pissed. between that and skype mafia the other night i would never gonna trust your waffling oh im so lost and now im paranoid and ohhhh again

dont thin you are though still. i can think of a lot of reasons scum kill kagami over you

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i think it has to be porkens/gamma here . . .

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fine w. massclaim, would like porkens to go sooner as opposed to later.

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simulacrum vanilla

porkens next

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where did holy aura come from

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yes i understand the town mindset that could have generated it (hence the gut reaction i expressed @ the time,) but i mean specifically where did the words come from

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id probably be pretty bummed.

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some list of Dungeons and Dragons spells online. google searched.

were you concerned abt it possibly being someone elses role?

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yioure drunk tammy go to bed

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PLease Take Your StraightEdge Vows

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midday 1

LnGrrrR

- 1 -

MafiaSSK

- (L-5)

MafiaSSK

- 3 -

Plum

, Porkens, Tammy,

tierce

, linger - (L-1)

Plum

- 1 -

ActionDan

- (L-5)

Tierce

- 2 -

Katsuki

, kanyeknowsbest,

kagami

- (L-3)

Players not voting: gamma

prior to the plum dayvig

Katsuki

- 1 -

tierce

,

ssk

, linger,

kagami

, porkens - (L-1)

MafiaSSK

- 3 -

Plum

, Tammy, kanye,

katsuki

- (L-2)

Plum

- 1 -

ActionDan

- (L-5)

Players not voting: gamma

day 1 lynch

Katsuki

- 5 -

Tierce

, Tammy,

MafiaSSK

, Porkens, LnGrrrR - (L-0)

MafiaSSK

- 1 -

Katsuki

- (L-4)

Players not voting:

Kagami

, kanyeknowsbest, gamma

day 2 lynch

Kagami

- 1 - kanyeknowsbest - (L-3)

kanyeknowsbest

- 1 -

MafiaSSK

- (L-3)

MafiaSSK

- 4 - Tammy, Porkens,

Kagami

, LnGrrrR - (L-0)

Players not voting: Gammagooey

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this is probably not that useful given the lack of scumflips or scumwagons

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porkens please tell me how im avoiding wagons when i pushed two wagons pretty strongly this game?

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porkens please tell me how im avoiding wagons when i pushed two wagons pretty strongly this game?

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i continue to be weirded out by gamma/porkens interaction today. it feels like theyre trying to show logic for moving a wagon in a direction and trying to feel out from the rest of us which person they are more likely to get a town vote onto. then you have light distancing like 1083 that just looks, weird, given their other interactions and add in porkens fear of commitment into a vote and im very :\ abt them

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tierce was a viable wagon and i switched to ssk as a compromise near d1 deadline. consider the activity of d2 and youre grasping straws trying to characterize me like that w. that day in mind.

can you give us a concrete read on gamma?

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well thats ez. this is probably where my vote was gonna end up anyways but i was really hoping hed make it easier for me

viote porkens

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porkens/kanye do you have any opinions on the nightkills I guess? its not much of a question but i dont really have much to say here right now

do you expect any answer from this that wouldnt be dripping in wifom? certainly i have my opinions but theyre not going to mean a whole lot

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also i'm worrying that kanye doesn't sound like he's trying to figure the game out. I worry that he's bringing up the weird gamma/porkens interaction to fuel that.

i dont understand what you mean by this

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imo the game would have to be really fucked up for me as scum to want to leave you alive tammy. i prefer having more predictable less waffly players in my lylos.

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tammy for me to be scum trying to manipulate you, with kagami finally decided that i was town this means that i deliberately killed a person who both a) had broken a tunnel on me and was starting to solidly town read me and b) i had a free tunnel on. hell thats the 2nd tunnel i would have nked for myself which is just fucking silly to do as scum.

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porkens/kanye do you have any opinions on the nightkills I guess? its not much of a question but i dont really have much to say here right now

do you expect any answer from this that wouldnt be dripping in wifom? certainly i have my opinions but theyre not going to mean a whole lot

it'd be nice to see a thought process or two on what's been going on recently instead of just having the old tierce stuff and the not-voting-katsuki stuff to go on and nightkill junk is something that would show it, even if it's not something I can really take at face value if that makes sense

like i understand that it's probably not going to be something super solid to go on here

i think tierce was a policy nk. kagami i think was a defensive nk from you and porkens - she had opted to stop pursuing me and its p clear she was probably going to come after one of the two of you today

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thats certainly the conclusion ive come to. i dont see any reason to vote anywhere other than me or porkens today.

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Man two people sayimg im their scum read when theyre crossvoting feels weird.

Like do you guys have reasons for thinking im scum individually or is it just connections and poe?

a lot of your posting today felt like scum testing the waters and laying groundwork to justify a vote and having an iso you could point at to show an attempt to reason things out. it felt more like it was for show than actual purpose. the fact that it syncs up so well w. porkens doesnt help, but im not gonna lean on the associative stuff before porkens flips red.

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2 scum doesnt really make a lot of sense to me. consider that mountainous is 11-2 with zero town power and is considered pretty balanced. suggesting only 2 scum means that spyrex took a balanced setup and added 2 masons that could also be used as dayvigs into the mix. that seems...... unlikely to me.

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maaybe if the masons would hav ebeen randomed onto a town player at the end of d1 if they hadnt fired?

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i dont even understand porkens reasoning

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fuckin lol

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hey gamma, can you tell me why you are assuming that ill be alive tomorrow?

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We all need to be as together on this as possible. If scum doesn't vote next, it's game over for sure. So you guys need to figure out between the three of you who will vote next.

please do tell how this works.

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i dont think theres any point wasting time talking about ruling out pairs taht dont include me or porkens.

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its guaranteed that one of us are scum and suppose that were both scum and scum are playing slow ball and delaying things needlessly: were still entirely fucked because im not moving my vote and porkens, despite all the retarded shit hes saying about moving his vote isnt going to move his vote either.

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anyw ays im pretty 100% confident that tammy is not porkens partner. i think it would be way too easy for her to play up her paranoia of me here and force the lynch onto me. im still leaning gamma over linger for partner but i still need 2 check linger interactions w. him

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no like i dont see at all how that works. it doesnt matter what order it happens in. theres 2 town votes and 1 scum vote in play. if either town vote goes onto a town player (me) then the scum can just move their vote to it. the order hardly matters at all

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I do think the gamma/porkens conversation today looked like them floating the possibility of voting me/seeing if one other person would be interested in it, which looks partnerish.

to me it looked like they were trying to get a bite out of me or linger on it. then when linger explicitly said no way porkens locked his vote onto me.

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btw im around but im gonna be busyish for another hour

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im busy and cant content for another 25 minutes

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hi im available now. gonna catchup

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btw im sorry gamma i was wrong. it is porkens/linger

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Might as well vote Kanye, Tammy. I think Porkens has done enough to deserve the win if he's scum. All things considered, I'd rather scum!Porkens win than scum!Kanye, who refused to answer my reads and has done less "towny" things in this game, I feel.

A ton of people have said "Kanye is town as fuck!" to some degree, but those reads aren't my reads. I still don't like some of Porkens posts, but eh, I'm not getting obvtown vibes from any of those three.

are you serious lol

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do i need to actually defend myself here or can we admit that linger is pretty transparent right now

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I'm also taken a little aback with LnGrrrR's sudden support of me. I'm forced to wonder if he is the partner using reverse psychology.

That uvote/vote in the same minute is astonishing.

Gamma, please don't revote unless you come to an agreement with Tammy first.

I was more involved in Zelda and I got fucking lynched day 2 (still grumpy about it).

this is awful. kid had more than enough time to hammer you he should be confirmed town and gamma confirmed scum from your perspective if you were town

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should have bussed instead of trying to get greedy and end it today linger. i think you could have won 3man lylo tomorrow either leveraging tammys paranoia of me or the mud that gamma was entrenched in

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he had a sizable post typed up with a vote on me at the same minute that gamma unvoted . . . ?

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im sure.

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the last two deadlines the latest linger posted was 9:50 and 10:06, even after the lynch was wrapped up. i do not believe that he could drop back in at this point to hammer town porkens if he were so inclined.

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porkens position is just completely unviable as town.

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what would voting linger accomplish ?

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like i can picture the scenarios why you would push this but i dont see any reason why i dont just make you dead today. linger can be dealt w. tomorrow

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lol. linger you should have kept not posting to make your buddies position more realistic ahaha

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because hes not.

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followup question: if hes scum why hasnt he hammered you

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believe if you were town the most obvious conclusion here is me/gamma. but youve already painted yourself out of that safetynet i guess ?

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be back in at most 15 minutes

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iom back,

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looks like i didnt miss anything.

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Think about it this way: Risk Versus reward:

If you lynch Kanye, and he is scum (50%), you HAVE his partner; Gamma.

If you lynch me, and I'm scum (50%), you don't have my partner.

So you either take a 50% chance of loss / 50% chance of catching both scum…
or you take a 50% chance of loss / 50% chance of catching one scum.

your partner is linger. huh how about that

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if i was scum i left kagami alive and she hammered porkens 2 hours ago. hth