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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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In post 84, Espressojet wrote:I'm aborting the mutiny. Anatole has no profile picture, and wishes to remain anonymous.
VOTE: Anatole
I swear I'm trying my best
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rampage can be town (though idk why he felt like justifying his policy wagon on aronis by calling aronis scummy, seems unnecessary), belisarius and espresso are both pretty scummy/cringy, hito and reck, idk, they seem town so far so they can be town so far. paschendale seems somewhat town i guess. everyone else i don't particularly care about.
(i might have skipped/skimmed pages 8-10, but thats okay)I swear I'm trying my best
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I think what makes Venrobs self-meta wall scummy is the fact it was so unprovoked and out of the ordinary. If he did it the right context I would likely just roll my eyes but in this case, no.
ABR's "Venrob should not be lynched Day 1" shtick is lame.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 386, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I forced a quicklynch of Venrob for three reasons:
1) To save myself
Reck, this sounds like Fantasy Camp doesn't it?I swear I'm trying my best
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Thematically and in terms of flavor, Third party shouldn't exist since the game is between two factions (Federation and Rebels). Theoretically though, a third party could exist in a Mercenary, or Pirates. They don't make sense in the context of being camouflaged aboard our ship, but the only possible Third Party would be somekind of a Mercenary among us, idk. I wouldn't spec about it any further than this though.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 441, Paschendale wrote:@Venmar: Why exactly Espresso? Please elaborate.
Huge gut read, and I recall a lot of his Day 1 posts came across as very scummy. #84 for example was basically trying to stay in RVS in a way, and disguising a sheep vote onto a wagon with humour. He tells me later that it was a joke, but I mean I don't buy it, it seemed too much with the flow to be a joke I guess? #286, #287 are a really weird reason to vote Albert, especially since later in #287, where he agrees to Pasches "lets no lynch either of them (aronis, abr)", he kind of makes his vote on abr obsolete and pointless. #380 was also a really bad way to start this day, by making a comment on the nightkill like that.
But I mean the above is just pointing out a couple posts that caught my attention, the read itself is largely gut orientated to begin with.I swear I'm trying my best
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Fitz kind of mirrored my scumreads almost perfectly, those are my scumreads, same with the townreads for the most part, so I don't think he was nightkilled for his scumreads, and it's really unhealthy to spec why he died atm so pls stop.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 459, xRECKONERx wrote:Which active/threatening players had Espresso & Beli in their lynch pool?
I checked and it seems like its just me actually. I thought Hito was scumreading Belisarius as well but it seems like he isn't, at least not in thread.
Speaking of Belisarius, while ISOing Hito I noticed this post by Beli:
In post 123, Belisarius wrote:Venrob is lynchbait and I will rot in hell before I'll grant scum a free mislynch because a player has an unpopular playstyle. If you want my vote on someone, show me scum motivated actions, not "scummy" (read: varied from current sitemeta) playstyle.
Which is extra interesting considering is the ONLY time that Belisarius has spoken of Venrob, EVER, throughout the whole game.I swear I'm trying my best
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But I am? What is your vote based off of exactly? Me wanting to know what Belisarius has on a SK? All I see is that Anatole was burned to a crisp (maybe the doings of a rockman), only reason i'd suspect an Arsonist, and weak one at that.I swear I'm trying my best
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You didn't bring up points, you just said Beli had info, my go to reasoning was "He should give it to us then", not "Is he somekind of a role that finds them?" or something stupid like that. If he claims his info he will still die to the SK next night, or gets shot by the possible vig, so....? I mean, if you think i am scum, and I am trying to prevent the vig/sk from shooting a possible townie in the night and instead just wasting a lynch on them, then... like idk what you are thinking lol.
I mean, you're reaching here, you have disgustingly misread me like this before.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 540, Juls wrote:Really? I don't think I misread you in event. I thought your role as claimed was OP and I was right. But regardless, why lynch him today? Give him a night. If he thinks the info he had is useful and will be lost with his death he can claim it. If not, let's talk about him tomorrow. But pulling the "you misread me" card doesn't make you look more town.
I was a Town Doctor that fakeclaimed so I wouldn't get instakilled during the night.
Whatever, I mean now that it's clear what the fuck is going on i'll unvote, but I fail to see the scum motivation behind it so lol.
Unvote
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In post 579, xRECKONERx wrote:And tunneling is scummy because it allows you to votepark/focus on one thing and ignore all other things and therefore never be held accountable.
Ummm? How about... No?I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 604, Juls wrote:Oh...look who pops in when his name is mentioned.
I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 610, xRECKONERx wrote:Keep this level of stupidity up and I'll help them mislynch you.
Ok, how about you keep your opinion on tunneling, and I keep mine?I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 705, xRECKONERx wrote:Yes, take your privileged white male rhetoric elsewhere, Venmar.
It was just a saying, I didn't mean it literally, geeze.I swear I'm trying my best
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An ABR lynch feels like BS, I don't feel confident that he'll flip scum at all for some reason. He's dome some townie looking things, or things I relate to as town.
Not much happened since my V/LA, Espresso still feels like the best lynch.I swear I'm trying my best
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Obligatory "Please lynch Espresso" post. The guys contributions continue to be bad, and you guys keep focusing on probably town people like ABR instead of Espresso and Belis.
@xRECKONERx, weren't you all hot and bothered about the idea that one of Beli and Espresso are scum due to Fitz dying? Why the focus on Myko and ABR then?I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 990, xRECKONERx wrote:I don't think that "hot and bothered" fits my mood, but I specifically remember you being anti-NK analysis back then. So why are you trying to use that as a way to get me to wagon Espresso?
I was hoping you'd answer without flipping it back a question at me. The fact I am mostly anti-NK analysis doesn't mean you are too, if you are pro-NK analysis and specifically used it as a reason to cast doubt on Espresso and Beli, I think i'll use that angle to see whyyou'rescumreading them rather than ignoring you. I hope that makes sense to a degree that you can withstand not shooting a question back to me as an answer.
Your ABR reasons is just paranoia and fence sitting, you should probably get off him.I swear I'm trying my best
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Flavour wise, the difference between a random researcher or crewmember and a guy with a heavy vest would be noticeable I think to the point of having your own role name.
Notice how Belisarius also had a protective and passive modifier like Espresso, and he was a Fireproof Federation Ensign, not Ferederation EnsignI swear I'm trying my best
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I fucking told you ABR was town, why the fuck would you shoot him, even if he got shot by scum too? (I read what you said, i'm just upset about it)
Espresso flipping town means someone I thought was town is actually scum. I'm looking at Reck, Hito and Juls. I'll be back tomorrow.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 1176, Paschendale wrote:Well, it's very nice the kills overlapped. I plan on not killing without a consensus from here on, though. Albert was too divisive to let live, though it was apparently unnecessary and it seems like a strange choice for scum to kill him. Otherwise, I have no suspects that I'm willing to kill unilaterally. I'm very relieved that no one else died last night.
Are you sure you're a vig? This post makes me think you're a SK.I swear I'm trying my best
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2 people died of oxygen deprivation
2 people died from being burned alive
1 person died from both, which means that was a layered kill.
We had a fireproof townie, and a bulletproof townie that said he was immune to "physical" attacks.
Paschendale claims that he killed havingfitz and Belisarius, then that he overlapped his kill with the mafia on ABR.
I am going to ask this question to however town players are left alive, which is either 2 or 3, not including myself. Why did the town get2bulletproofs, to2 differentkill flavors? Does anyone actually believe the idea that the town would get a bulletproof that is immune to aTownvig? Because that sounds like bullshit.
Also, I think we should massclaim, I mean there's like only 5 of us left now and i'll be next logical town kill so I don't care. I am a Federation Ensign. My name is Oni and I am a Zoltan Researcher that specializes in the religious activities of the various races of the galaxy. The reality that I am actually an outpost librarian with rusty skills make me just a Federation Ensign.I swear I'm trying my best
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This game fucks over my brain. Especially because "Oxygen Deprivation" doesn't fit Espresso's "Immune to Physical Attacks" immunity all that well. Was he a red herring bp or something?
Actually nvm, a crystal man doesn't breathe. Yeah he was immune to Pasch, since I just read their FTL wiki page and it says one of their ingame bonuses was "Resistant to suffocation". BUT WHY, WHY THE FUCK DOES THE TOWN HAVE A BP IMMUNE TO A TOWN VIG? THAT MAKES NO SENSE.I swear I'm trying my best
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In post 1202, Juls wrote:Pretty sure town is me,ven, and Pasch. If we want to lynch hito today I would be cool with that.
Oh,NOWi'm town?I swear I'm trying my best
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Also, Reck claiming to have neighborized people that aren't dead solidifies his claim imo, since if he was lying scum he would be more likely to claim to have neighborized mainly people that are already dead.I swear I'm trying my best
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