Mini 1576 - Timeshift Mafia II - Endgame

[BBmolla]

VOTE: No Lynch

[BBmolla]

#first

lets get the game rolling

are mafia kills delayed 1 night too?

Need to figure if this is lazy or fake-questions-to-the-mod tell

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=25018

Yeah I looked at that post for like 30 seconds deciding what to think about it

2mchwifom4me

[BBmolla]

Vote Jeesh5

Let's get this out of the way.

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Mollie has a tendency to be paranoid about me, so I figured that we should get it out of the way early.

Why are people voting no lynch?

I like everyone too much so I didn't want to vote any of them.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Metal Sonic

I get why he's saying there is an SK but that's quite a leap. I'd assume One-shot vig is in play (especially with the fun of "I shot X, don't lynch them" possible.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Metal Sonic

I get why he's saying there is an SK but that's quite a leap. I'd assume One-shot vig is in play (especially with the fun of "I shot X, don't lynch them" possible.

Why did you change your mind so quickly?

Cause no lynching is dumb

[BBmolla]

PV LINKED A PREVIOUS TIMESHIFT GAME WHICHH WAS ALSO HOSTED BY DEFENDER AND IT CONTAINED AN SK


HENCE SINCE THIA GAME IA ANOTHER REHOSTING IT CAN ALSO CONTAIN SK

FFS

Why are you so mad

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

He's probably important so eh

VOTE: Bulba

Goodvote

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Metal Sonic

[BBmolla]

God damn I hate hydras

Victor seems fake as fuck but it might just be him

[BBmolla]

I have a townread on PV should I be worried

[BBmolla]

2nd post was my thoughts exactly, and the vote on Bulba is townish

[BBmolla]

This whole interaction screams wrong to me. BBmolla, what the fuck is this shit? "i like everyone! Unicorns and rainbows for all! Free ponies!" "hey could you pwetty please vote this person I am leading on please? Just because I asked? -bats eyelashes at you prettily-" "sure because I love everyone so I'll follow you anywhere and your pretty eyelash batting!" BBmolla, you aren't this bad. I've played with you before. What's going on here?

Your play by play is cool but I don't see what's wrong with it

[BBmolla]

Trickster I believe you're a cop

[BBmolla]

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ

[BBmolla]

Trickster I believe you're a cop

why do yo usay things like this?

Hey BBmolla, I'm scum. I didn't have a cop read on trickster before. Now I have a copread on trickster. I'm killing trickster tonight, thanks for your help BBmolla

(this situation is obviously hypothetical and no I'm not insinuating anything, proving a stupid point)

~Maru

np bro, glad I could help.

[BBmolla]

lol @ Bane claiming scum

More Bulba or MS votes would be good.

[BBmolla]

I don't know how to take people thinking that molla wanted all hearts and rainbows with that post cos he is from em.

I mean I've been here longer than I was at EM

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This comment was forced, and directly made so in future you could refer back to it saying we claimed scum. Why didn't you make this comment in your first post directly after my stupidly obvious not-a-real-claim claim? If you really cared that I claimed that for the purpose of making a point, you would have brought up your hesitations to dismiss the claim as face value immediately and not ignored it until a second post shortly after.

Ok

[BBmolla]

This isn't Maru is it? I don't remember Maru being such a buzzkill.

[BBmolla]

Bulba is scum.

[BBmolla]

molla r u town?

Yes, I'm just toying with the people trying to make something out of nothing.

[BBmolla]

molla r u town?

Yes, I'm just toying with the people trying to make something out of nothing.

good.

trying to make sure you're not trying to bus or distract, cuz you gotta point about bulba being scummy.

Lack of acknowledging my read on me, lack of emotion, lack of impact. He's scum.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bulba

[BBmolla]

Your vote is dumb Kazekirimara

[BBmolla]

KCDA is probably down for what it's worth.

[BBmolla]

town*

[BBmolla]

bulba placed a naked vote on kazemara at a time when there were active victor/metal pushes.

I didn't like either of those pushes. Why do you think I would?

Also I disagree with your Molla read. This is way more fluffier than typical town Molla.

Unvote

Vote BBMolla

@Dr Pants: Why did you run away from your Jeesh vote when Jeesh/Kaze became front and center? I understand not wanting to get in the fight, but I can't understand avoiding the spotlight altogether.

Not really dude, my play is pretty on par with interactionless town Molla.

[BBmolla]

Voting you?

[BBmolla]

If you think I am you're not focused Bulba

[BBmolla]

Bulba why do you think I'm scum, shoot

[BBmolla]

Also I'm lynching Kazekirimara way before I even consider Jeesh

[BBmolla]

Bane is scum.

[BBmolla]

My role aside, if we lynch me all that will happen is I flip town and Bane/Bulba get lynched

So I'm semi okay with that

[BBmolla]

But most of these kids have their heads pretty far up their ass myself included so I doubt my lynch actually equals both of those two getting lynched

[BBmolla]

Like look at this gladiator bullshit what a waste of time, just lynch Bulba

[BBmolla]

@Bulba: k

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Victor

Scumteam is Bane/Victor/Bulba game solved. If Victor is town Bane is still scum. Bane's opinion on Victor is fake.

This should be L-1

[BBmolla]

[Because all of you are posting is just "HEY GUYS I IGNORED THE LAST THREE PAGES, VOTE VICTOR NOW PLEASE KAITHNX BAI" without giving any reasons, and neither of us see the case on victor. If you want Victor lynched, so us the case.

And I want a wall.

Not something like "He did this, then this, and that too, therefore hes scum" with only 20 words. Like most of you typically do.

too effing bad your are not getting one.

not in a game as fucking cluttered with walls as this.

My sole reason for voting him and continuing to vote him and press his lynch is his damned reaction to the wagon on him.

as soon as he said "OH LOOK A WAGON ON ME LETS DO THIS" this day should have been over.

thats the reason. black and white. clear as crystal. dont fucking sask for any more walls ever again.

you and jeesh are to busy cockfighting too much to actually READ.

just fucking vote victor.

So we're lynching a guy because he sarcastically said essentially "great I'm being lynched. Awesome" therefore he is scum?

Goo back to Sandbox. Foolwin2014 =/= bestwin2014 here.

^

[BBmolla]

You're defending him and your denial of it is really shitty lol

[BBmolla]

Why are you so upset?

[BBmolla]

I mean you're declaring that you literally have zero read on Victor while defending him so I find it pretty funny that you're calling me awful

[BBmolla]

You should probably self vote

[BBmolla]

Eh I guess you're not really defending him more than calling everyone's logic shit

You literally have no read on him though?

[BBmolla]

;-;

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I think I'm just annoyed cause there is no one in this game to shoot the shit with

[BBmolla]

I think InflatablePie is scum

[BBmolla]

Just a feeling

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I keep seeing the same exact people posting and I think most of them are town

[BBmolla]

Jeesh what the hell is tater

[BBmolla]

Targaraern almost comically amished, like textbook amish.

I was gonna come in and yell at people for misusing it, but no that's legit terrible.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Targaren

[BBmolla]

where did you think peeps were misusing it?

Everywhere on site. Namely a newbie game I just watched.

[BBmolla]

Messiah is so underwhelming for the players it includes

PV is town

[BBmolla]

Pro town thoughts

[BBmolla]

My read on him is pretty generic yeah

[BBmolla]

Bbmolla - Your one-liners and ambiguous posting is not going to get you through this game, and shrugging off attention is really scummy. Scum

Why not?

[BBmolla]

Targaryen is probably scum for reals

"He was so obviously town guys, so dumb"

lol

[BBmolla]

Molla's been kinda snarky (this may be the wrong word) and not useful, so I'd want to vote him before Pants.

AKA not scum, cool

I think I've been pretty useful

[BBmolla]

Who'd you track then?

[BBmolla]

fwiw, I think the slot is still scum

[BBmolla]

I'm gonna try to do more thorough read today, inc in a couple hours

[BBmolla]

I lied. Hopefully tomorrow

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Can we lynch Messiah?

[BBmolla]

You're being really pro-town

[BBmolla]

Also you are aware we lynched Victor

I don't even

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Anatole Kuragin

[BBmolla]

I don't know how I overlooked Anatole's scummy iso

[BBmolla]

molla, you wanna go into more detail on your reasons for switching to Anatole here? especially considering you think the Targ slot is still scum ([post801[/post])?

See post 877

[BBmolla]

For my reasons

[BBmolla]

It's right before the post where you complain about me not having reasons

[BBmolla]

"What is scummy about his ISO BB?"

[BBmolla]

"What is scummy about his ISO BB?"

Well sir that's a stupid question, but I guess I'll answer.

Metal's comments about a potential SK feel weird to me.

The wording on this is scummy. It seems noncommital. Basically to allow him to back out of it if at any time which...

Exactly my point. I like you now

Yeah fuck it.

UNVOTE: metal

VOTE: VictorDeAngelo

...he does

What's AtE?

this kills all credibility of posts you make, js.

You know some people who play this game don't scour every mafia scum wiki article, aren't philosophy major wannabes, and generally aren't exposed to academic rhetoric?

Useless posting

Also, he had no credibility to begin with.

Victor said a whole lot of nothing in this post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5894672

Parrotting

Well, to clarify, I voted for him because of post #100, which I pointed out what completely pointless in the post before the one where I voted.

I wasn't saying "fuck it idgaf lynch anyone yolo." It was more, in response to metal's post, me saying "fuck it, I would rather vote for victor all things considered."

but whatev idgaf yolo

Overexplaining while feigning lax

Sorry, been pre-occupied and this has been a particularly hard game for me to crack into on day one because it's my first mafia game in years.

I think Peregrine, House Targaryen, and Pants are town after looking at their ISO. Pants and Peregrine give what I see the most sincere, consistent scumhunting vibe and Metal probably wouldn't have replaced out if he was scum, especially since with the delayed timeshift stuff, there's not really a reason for scum to just give up and quit. I like Bane because he more or less agrees with my analysis on the players I've really dug into.

I'm going to VOTE: Kaze. This post in particular gave me a scummy vibe because it's just "if I were x, I would do z" sidestepping. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5912691 Her and jeesh's back and forth over 20 pages also made me want to just cut my fingers off rather than read through it all.

This one isn't too damning, but if the metal sonic slot is scum it definitely solidies Anatole as scum. If MS is town than it's a bit wierd for him to remove a mislynch just like that.

Has this fit over Bane being obvious scum than unvotes him over nothing, k

Oh and votes Kaze for saying Victor is scum when he's dead, k


You're a dumbass for asking, just read the fucking ISO

[BBmolla]

"Oh thanks BB, I can't read so I appreciate you doing it for me"

[BBmolla]

Np

[BBmolla]

The Bane votes was probably a bus and if I'm right about Kuragin I'll be looking that way

[BBmolla]

Metal Sonic was probably a bus too in that case, scumteam is MS/Kuragin/Bane game solved?

[BBmolla]

Kaze's wierd shit is them being dumbass town. Unless they're pulling some serious "not paying attention" fakery.

[BBmolla]

"BB please stop spamming the thread, it's really annoying"

[BBmolla]

"BB please stop spamming the thread, it's really annoying"

Fuck off

[BBmolla]

If I messed up one of those, Messiah is possible replacement scumbuddy/serial killer.

[BBmolla]

Desp where the hell is your "WHAT THE FUCK TOWN" attitude dude

[BBmolla]

brb crying

[BBmolla]

Bane if you read my post, he voted you and called you obv scum

Who is the idiot now doge

[BBmolla]

Why am I an idiot

[BBmolla]

If you're not scum you should probably self vote

[BBmolla]

Do you know I'm town yet

[BBmolla]

I have layers, man. Anything Goes and House Party are not representative of my town game and I'm pretty sure you already mislynched me once for not having ~The Town Fury~ so why are you going back to that well again?

I forgot

[BBmolla]

We get either Kaze or PeregrineV.

HAHAHAHA

no

[BBmolla]

Do you think I believe he's scum or not?

[BBmolla]

yeah sure

[BBmolla]

I've been disagreeing with literally everything you've said all game so considered me unsuprised

[BBmolla]

I dooooooooooooooooooon't rememebrr

[BBmolla]

Pie dude are you scum

[BBmolla]

Please be town like all I want is to be right

[BBmolla]

I'm never right

[BBmolla]

@Molla: Why should I vote for Anatole?

Cause he's _ _ _ _

Hint: Four letter word for something you find in a pond. Rhymes with thumb.

[BBmolla]

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I think Anatole is more likely scum

[BBmolla]

Why House T over Anatole?

[BBmolla]

tammy I literally was saying "Oh who did Tammy replace- oh damn she replaced scum." and then I noticed your post saying I was town

My reads are all kind of wierd. I just wanna lynch Anatole.

[BBmolla]

BB is still town. BB why would me thinking you're town change your stance on my slot?

Cause I want you to be town

[BBmolla]

I know that's retarded but that's basically what it comes down to

[BBmolla]

Like if you had come in and been like "BB is scum" my scumread probably would have remained

I really suck at this game

[BBmolla]

Let's lynch Anatole

[BBmolla]

Oh cool we have same opinion about Peregrine

Bane was getting butthurt over me not taking game 100% serious and I found that more likely to be scum trying to seem town than genuine

[BBmolla]

But your logic makes sense to so meh

[BBmolla]

too*

[BBmolla]

Why did you read your predecessor just curious

[BBmolla]

So who do you want to lynch then

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UNVOTE:

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Pie is calling my stupidity scummy I think

[BBmolla]

My lynchlist is identical to Tammy's fwiw.

[BBmolla]

I'm getting cold feet on Anatole, recent posts indicate frustrated town imo

[BBmolla]

I'd lynch him over lots of other people though.

[BBmolla]

PeregrineV - Town, but basically Tammy's "why am I townreading the guy I always scumread" as well
Bulbazak - Eh
Anatole Kuragin - Eh
Bert - Town
Studio 54 (Cephrir/Axxle/PrivateI) - Town
Dr Pants - Prob town
Tammy - I'd like this slot to be town
Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish) - wtf
House Targaryen (Xofelf/Mist7676/Klick) - Scummy
Ms Marangal (originally Ms Kazekirimara w/ Kazekirimaru) - Town
InflatablePie - Scummy

[BBmolla]

I'm very much down

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pie

[BBmolla]

I'm starting to think he's frustrated town over scum

[BBmolla]

wait wut

[BBmolla]

Were you told that House Targ did nothing night 1?

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Wake88

What a weird fuck up

[BBmolla]

Yeah hope everything is okay Tammy

[BBmolla]

\o/

Yeah the mod stuff regarding that slot was pretty fucked.

[BBmolla]

Did you have a vest?

[BBmolla]

So he lied k

[BBmolla]

Oh yeah let's lynch Tammy

[BBmolla]

Tammy you're obvious scum at this point

[BBmolla]

inb4 using alcohol as excuse

obv scum is obv

[BBmolla]

A vest being instantly sent in Timeshift Mafia? You two thought you'd make it to end game with that didn't you lmao

[BBmolla]

I'm kidding lol

[BBmolla]

I wanted a big rage post at me

[BBmolla]

Maybe the mod lied

[BBmolla]

Dota

VOTE: Pie

Bulba?

[BBmolla]

Hey let's lynch Pie

[BBmolla]

Sorry for doing nothing lately, is there a reason I missed that we're not lynching Pie?

[BBmolla]

Sorry for doing nothing lately, is there a reason I missed that we're not lynching Pie?

He said you are scum trying to mislynch him.

Ok

Now why are we wasting time dicking around about "OMG WHY WOULD MAFIA KILL BANE"

[BBmolla]

I think Anatole is town btw, more so than ever.

[BBmolla]

Bulba I think?

[BBmolla]

I'm literally not lynchign anyone today but Pie

[BBmolla]

If this really is a townflip I'm really fucking lost

[BBmolla]

Pie I'm really not scum, check with the mod when you get to the dead private topic

[BBmolla]

I'm just bad apparently

[BBmolla]

Marangal and Bulba are scum then?

[BBmolla]

ok

[BBmolla]

I'm not fake, just bad as per usual.

I lynch more scum when I'm actually scum

[BBmolla]

asdf

[BBmolla]

\o/

[BBmolla]

I wanna go Mara today btw

[BBmolla]

[BBmolla]

Why wouldn't I hard bus Messiah

[BBmolla]

Instead it looks like I weak bussed him which I would never do as scum cause it looks scummy

[BBmolla]

I'll be honest I believed his twilight shenanigans and felt bad

I'm not scum though

[BBmolla]

Yeah.

[BBmolla]

I really think you and Bert are town for sure though

[BBmolla]

Look, if we're gonna be paranoid of me all game I can be today's lynch.

[BBmolla]

Now that UPAGT is over, was my play that game relevent to you having a townread on me here?

[BBmolla]

@Bulba*

[BBmolla]

It's the truth Tam tam

[BBmolla]

But when do I ever weak bus, I always go all out or all not cause I think weak bussing looks bad

This is all self meta and useless though

Trust me! I'm town! Let's win pls!

[BBmolla]

I think Mara is the last scum

[BBmolla]

Oh. Huh.

[BBmolla]

Yeah I can't confirm that but I believe it.

[BBmolla]

ITT: Town shits on itself

[BBmolla]

Jailkeeper plus Vest Giver vs. SK and Maf is totally plausible

[BBmolla]

If Bulba is claiming Doctor he's probably scum, yeah.

[BBmolla]

Silly

[BBmolla]

Although scum having a role blocker and a doctor? Hrm.

Entirely plausible if SK is completely Bulletproof imo.

[BBmolla]

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I wish I could read the players in this game better

[BBmolla]

Do we actually know one exists?

[BBmolla]

If Bulba is claiming Doctor he's probably scum, yeah.

Even if he's claiming it directly into the face of a JK claim?

Yeah good point.

Neh.

[BBmolla]

Stop claiming scum Tammy

[BBmolla]

PV is claiming Vig I think

[BBmolla]

Can we lynch Mara today

[BBmolla]

why do you think mara is more likely to turn up scum than bert?

I think bert is town

so

[BBmolla]

@mod: If you're alive can we get a votecount

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Mara

[BBmolla]

idc at this point

Tammy who we lynch

[BBmolla]

Hiiiii. Um, I'll ISO a few things but would appreciate cliff notes from anyone and everyone. Thanks!

The town is a ghost town because we got two scum but are lost on other scum(s)

So new input is welcome

[BBmolla]

What I liked about Peregrine was him recognizing that Bane was town based on his frustration

Wouldn't that implicate him for killing Bane though

[BBmolla]

What I liked about Peregrine was him recognizing that Bane was town based on his frustration

Wouldn't that implicate him for killing Bane though

I thought he had called him town day one. And why did you automatically assume he would be mafia in that instance?

pedit: Singer, mara was pretty blatant about the fact that she wasn't doing anything and didn't plan to do anything.

Trying to go with the other side of the argument.

[BBmolla]

Bert's dancing cats post was scummy lol

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Tammy I'm VT

[BBmolla]

Just an FYI

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Tammy I have no idea

[BBmolla]

Flip a coin, let's lynch one

[BBmolla]

Sure, I'll trust myself from earlier in this game, Bulba is scum

[BBmolla]

Singer your vote is bad

[BBmolla]

Cool glad to stop your streak

[BBmolla]

Did you know that 100% of the time when your first vote has been me it's been wrong?

[BBmolla]

I would think you'd know better about how I think as scum after the UPick.

Good point

[BBmolla]

Someone interact with me please

[BBmolla]

Do you have questions for me?

I'm just very apathetic towards this game

And I know that doesn't make sense cause we're probably in a good spot, but I'm lost readwise.

Singer, if we're both town, who would that leave open option wise for scum?

[BBmolla]

IMO, let Doc/JK live tonight, Doc protect JK, JK jail someone scummy. BP insta vest Doc if able.

[BBmolla]

Molla- I don't think this is you-scum. I've played scumwith you-scum, and town with you-scum, and this seems you-town. The worse thing against you was Pie's "lynch Molla" WIFOM right before he hung. Why do you think he bothered doing that knowing he would die and flip scum?

Zero clue. To be frank, I thought he was town while he was pulling it, so I stopped talking cause I thought I fucked up.

[BBmolla]

Probably to make it look like a bus, which apparently worked

[BBmolla]

Do you have questions for me?

I'm just very apathetic towards this game

And I know that doesn't make sense cause we're probably in a good spot, but I'm lost readwise.

Singer, if we're both town, who would that leave open option wise for scum?

Who do you think is mafia? Why?

Since we are apparently SK hunting also, who is the SK? Why?

Singer. Cause she replaced Mara who I thought was scum.

No idea on other.

I think it's unlikely with a Tracker that all protective roles are town. So probably in there.

[BBmolla]

Mafia Bulletproof Giver would be pretty fucked so I hope it's not that

[BBmolla]

Tammy and Studio are sticking with their medium strength townread on Mara, and have been all game

Hence why I am sitting here twiddling my thumbs

[BBmolla]

Multiball (mutiple scum factions/SK) is usually not assumed until proven. TO that end, I'm not seeing proof.

Explain Messiah dying