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In post 95, Rubicon wrote:fontisian might be scum for approaching the GD claim in the same way as in our last WitchHunt game even though her approach in that game was influenced by context that most likely doesn't apply here.
Why doesn't it apply here?-
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Has anything he posted been anything but null?-
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In post 98, Stigmata wrote:In post 95, Rubicon wrote:fontisian might be scum for approaching the GD claim in the same way as in our last WitchHunt game even though her approach in that game was influenced by context that most likely doesn't apply here.
Why doesn't it apply here?-
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...oh sweet jesus, you might be town.-
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In post 153, Rubicon wrote:My goal is now to discover Stigmata's true identity.
In post 63, Atum wrote:I'm more curious as to why font's first post was basically her opening from the last Witchhunt, though less abrupt and more conciliatory. I'm also still don't understand fully why town would volunteer information to the scum team, which has more in the first place.
On the other hand at least there's something interesting to talk about pre-game.
Fontisian, is there a reason you're interested in Rubicon's post along the same lines but not Atum's #63?-
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In post 183, MadCitrus wrote:
Oh and heads up notice, there's a week and a halfish later in August where I will almost definitely have little to no ability to be around. I'll give the dates later as I don't know them off handedly but if I'm alive then depending on the game cycles we should use an extension so I can catch up and be around for day end.
DL extension in late August would be good for me too tbh; I'll be V/LA.
Citrus wrote:Hmm What're you trying to do here fontisian eh?
? Explain.
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In post 162, fontisian wrote:Rubicon: You understand that if I town I'm going to die soon correct? You also understand that every seed of doubt you sow about my alignment undermines my attempts to guide the town in the little time I have, correct? What are you doing.
Is this even true on MafiaScum? Have you been killed N1 yet?-
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Citrus wrote:Stigmata, care to reveal who you are? You don't have to, but the fact that you voted for 'Citrus' over 'MadCitrus' means you've played with me before, since on all other forums I'm 'Citrus'.
I'mDelphine, which should give you some needed context. Anyway:
Spoiler: (1)
Your first couple of posts were (obviously) null to me and basically content-less, so her townreading you as strongly as she was, was what stuck out to me in her reads list. I was curious whether she had a good reason for doing so. Firstly because it helps me read you, and secondly because I've only played with fontisian on IRC; I'm not particularly good at reading her, but one way I've caught her before is that she'll put her buddies in her townpile on a really weak basis and will just keep saying that they're town over and over again until it sticks.
Spoiler: (2)
I did phrase that kinda weird (obv she had a reason and I wanted to know what it was) but am not really sure how that's doubt-casting, just wanted to get a better read on her.
Spoiler: (3)
Okay, this is frustrating to me since both those questions kinda read to me as empty posting (at least out of context) but I'm not scumreading you for doing so (I believe that you believe it's pro-town for you to not.) I don't think you should have to be sorry for being busy but I don't think it's unreasonable for me to have pressure voted you here, either, as I'd like to get you out of my null-slight-scum pile since I think I can p quickly?
Spoiler: (4)
I'm townreading him for it due to to not expecting faking a townslip to be in his scum repertoire, but there are other people in this thread that would know that better than I would. I'm also self-aware of the fact that I tend to townread people that I am emotionally attached to outside of the game with all things being equal, so.-
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Way to out me to the MafiaScum half of the game. Hi ABR!
In post 198, Atum wrote:Not sure about Grib, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on Citrus.
How'd you get from Point A to Point B?
In post 241, fontisian wrote:Actually, calling the Rubicon/ABR/Jargonaut scumteam with outside chances of ZZZX and Atum now.
Why's Atum out of the townpile?-
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Citrus wrote:They were indeed content-less. Wanna know why? Because scum can coordinate during pre-game.
Can you elaborate on this?
Citrus wrote:the testing the waters part was what stuck out to me.
To expand on that, I specifically wanted to know what y'all would think of it because you all just were in the exact same situation as him. If someone else felt like they as part of reminiscing the past game were thinking in terms of four scum as well and that thinking like that wasn't a tell, obviously that's meaningful? Also I just came off of a forum game where I hardcore townread this girl for slipping that she was looking for two scum when it was her first mafia game large enough to typically have three scum, but it turned out there was an SK and she was on a two person scumteam, hence the self-consciousness. Lol.-
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@Atum - (1) I'd've picked either holy role or DOB (2) Not really. tbh this game makes me want to drunkpost to see if I have any epiphanies (3) MafiaScum (mostly in 09-10), once each on 3 forums w speedier deadlines (inc. DLP), but I've so many completed IRC games that I forget shit like that roles aren't necessarily informed that they were roleblocked all the time on the forums (4) Neither
Ika - tbh, I'm not ~scumreading~ anyone at the moment? I dislike ZZZX in light of Honey Bee's recent post and his general lack of presence but apparently he just went V/LA. I do find it compelling that Rubicon and Atum just were scum together and are currently both scumreading each other, but I have weak townreads on both of them so far.
Citrus wrote:looking for a public consensus
My intent was "hey I think I found a glaring townslip; if you see any logical holes in it let's discuss it" not "hey fontisian et. al please tell me how I should feel about this" (and also reasons related to getting super excited that I no longer thought Grib was scum this game that people would probably laugh at me for) but etc., going to drop the subject now. If it's not obvious, I'm now townreading you and am gonna UNVOTE:
p-edit, hi ika.
ika wrote:Then wouldnt you argure that grib is town?
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In post 296, fontisian wrote:Dear Diary,
Today I was wondering about your emotions when you were making post 149. Perhaps you could explain them to me.
I was extremely relieved because town-Grib gives me warm fuzzy feelings.-
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Yeah uh gun to the head for me just turned into reading a bunch of HotH meta and WIFOMing myself to death. Pew pew. (I have the day off tomorrow; I'll get back to you.)-
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Actually, Honey Bee -
In post 170, Honey bee wrote:Heel we're on page 7, are you really that interested in doubting other peoples reads? If you think I'm scum, I can see a purpose in doubting someones read to convince them to vote for me, but you have really nothing when it comes to reads right now. Who would you be voting at this point? I'd be voting you.
I know he replaced out, but this stuck out to me in your iso. Can you explain this more? Your stance as described in this post seems like it shows a superficial understanding of his posts.-
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In post 344, Rubicon wrote:In post 335, fontisian wrote:Think about it. It's not exactly difficult to figure out.
oh I realized what this means.-
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In post 352, fontisian wrote: And Rubicon is scum for fucking up his opening gambit and for being the only possible scum to have pushed me.
In post 327, fontisian wrote: You'll notice Rubicon immediately nitpicked, because he's scum.
I'm not going to speculate on Rubicon's role here, even though some of it should be obvious. Deal with it.-
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What opening gambit are you talking about? Am I just supposed to take your word on the Rubicon meta or are you going to elaborate? What exactly made you decide he wasn't town anymore? Why is him nitpicking there a scumtell? Why are you relating Atum and Rubicon's alignments? Why are you hardtownreading Unsight for something Grib pointed out? Can you throw me meta links of both alignments so I can get a better feel for what ika means by misting vs you gamesolving?-
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I got prodded via dream last night as well. (The game was kind of like this one and about half the player list was the same - specifically remember fontisian/ABR were town in it; Grib was scum (as was Blab.)
You know mist, I don't think you have a good grasp on this game yet. All I read is emotion. You're raging at ika for being anti-town (and we all have that phase, but I'm sorry, this is his town meta), you're raging at fontisian for being arrogant (which IMO is pretty null, but w/e floats your boat), your list of townreads consist of everyone that is voting fontisian right now, and your posts contain a lot of non-content snipes. Chill for a day or so if you need and then do some rereading + ISO Rubicon and ZZZX for me and let me know what you think. Thanks.
IRL is taking a toll on me and I'm having a lot of trouble getting into this game. My gut is telling me there's one scum in ZZZX/Honey bee (their interactions don't strike me as aligned but something still feels off about them to me.) I find ZZZX hard to read because he's a VI, and there's some moments I like from him in that it feels like he doesn't care very much how he's being perceived, but how he treats Rubicon+Honey bee rubs me the wrong way. His content is mostly about them (meta-clearing them with surprising certainty) despite not seeming to be reading their posts all that clearly. HB's pretty null for me; her suspicions feel a little too middle of the road/easy, but she seems reasonably aggressive/convinced with how she talks about them.-
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In post 420, hiplop wrote:
Stigmata's 248 is strange as hell to me. MadCitrus made a (somewhat) weak case against him and he got incredibly defensive. That doesn't sit right with me.
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Why?
Actually, fuck that. VOTE: zzzx
More specifically, I don't care at all about anything that's been posted against fontisian in the past like, 10 pages except like one stray remark from Unsight? Like, she might happen to flip scum, but I'd rather happen to flip scum with someone else? And I think hiplop is wrong about a lot of things and he's kind of boring but I don't even know if I think he's scum? ???
hiplop wrote:If it's me vs font, I can confirm myself as town. If thats the case, lets burn this guy please.
Actually I don't like this post v much
hiplop wrote:I want you to vote for hiplop with, because he's likely scum and he's linked to Stigmata. At the very least I'd like you to stop pushing me over nothing so I can focus on lynching scum. Are you going to help or not?
Curious. You've never explained or even touched on a link to stigmata...
Presumably she thought that your comment on my 248 was distancing (esp since I drop off your scumreads after that) + that you misspelling my name was intentional to make you seem less self-aware. omg i'm garcia'ing and practically making a case against myself; i get better at this game every post guys.-
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In post 618, Grib wrote:/uses Witchy powers to raise thread from the grave/
Uh. I mean. Hi, fellow townies! Comrades of non-Witchy origins. Heh heh.
woah i just had a thought. what if you like asked people questions to try to determine their alignment like at some point during the game???-
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In post 643, Grib wrote:In post 639, Stigmata wrote:In post 618, Grib wrote:/uses Witchy powers to raise thread from the grave/
Uh. I mean. Hi, fellow townies! Comrades of non-Witchy origins. Heh heh.
woah i just had a thought. what if you like asked people questions to try to determine their alignment like at some point during the game???
Hey, wow, look at the content that suddenly appeared after my fluff post.
I'll play how I want, thanks.
err I'm just slightly annoyed because it doesn't feel like you're trying to generate content and it makes me paranoid but then it also reminds me of AYAW2 minus the adorable avatar so I'm just going to make passive-aggressive posts abt it??
@fonti - that doesn't link me+hiplop tho? also I think it describes my feelings perfectly b/c they were OTT and I don't really want to elaborate because it's literally embarrassing-
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I'm kinda townreading fonti at this stage. Partly gut, partly due to [redacted] (and it surprises me a little that Atum is still pushing fonti, but.)
fonti wrote:Atum is actively engaged instead of doing the newbie lurk.
You're sure that's a tell? He has way more time to post now and I'm not even sure that being town == more engagement in his case?-
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In post 867, MadCitrus wrote:Wonderful, as I've announced left and right I have pegged both of the holy players already! Now my highest priority is staying alive for today and reaching my coven chat. It's too bad Citrus didn't play along for a day, that fake!claim looks really bad. And neither of them is confirming holy. I should put scum in the best position possible and make sure if they aren't holy, the real holy's claim. How would I do that hmm...
I'm just not convinced that scum!fonti was sure that hiplop would've felt she needed to do that gambit in order to make it to N1 + the way it played out feels more like town FUCK I NEED TO SALVAGE THIS esp since other people seem to have read hiplop's thing as a softclaim (I didn't)? Can you explain this to me?-
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(err I had some part about certainty about hiplop holiness that I couldn't state coherently and app only removed halfway)In post 877, Stigmata wrote:In post 867, MadCitrus wrote:Wonderful, as I've announced left and right I have pegged both of the holy players already! Now my highest priority is staying alive for today and reaching my coven chat. It's too bad Citrus didn't play along for a day, that fake!claim looks really bad. And neither of them is confirming holy. I should put scum in the best position possible and make sure if they aren't holy, the real holy's claim. How would I do that hmm...
I'm just not convinced that scum!fonti would've felt she needed to do that gambit in order to make it to N1 + the way it played out feels more like town FUCK I NEED TO SALVAGE THIS esp since other people seem to have read hiplop's thing as a softclaim (I didn't)? Can you explain this to me?
ika, I get that you think killing fonti and ending the day soon is protown regardless of flip. I read citrus's argument and I'm maybe missing something but I don't get why she'd (as scum) be that messy and expect it to work.-
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In post 878, ika wrote:OK BEFORE I READ ANY FURTHER, GRIB/ATUM NEEDS BOMBING
ill drees everythign in a moment
In post 882, ika wrote:NOW CAN WE GET BACK TO LYNCHING FONT AND BOMBING CIRTUS?
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In post 1116, MadCitrus wrote:
Also there's only two ways I can survive a kill so we can probably just ask titus if witch trick survival is announced and how as opposed to angel protection. But fontisian would have protected hiplop probably? But wine? Hrmm
Aren't they deliberately announced the same way though normally-
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Uhhh hiplop, all you said about me yesterday is that you thought I was being overdefensive toward Citrus, and you said "fair enough" in response to my defense, and then you thought that I was a likely fonti-buddy because she linked you and I. Not seeing any evidence that you're actually rethinking the game based on the flips, which seems odd considering you were dead wrong about your strongest scumread yesterday.
Still dislike the wording/timing of your post that people thought was a sofclaim btw.-
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