Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

[Aronis]

/confirm!

[Aronis]

VOTE: shos

[Aronis]

Aronis, you funny guy, you

IM afraid i don't understand.

[Aronis]

most definitely!

Are you talking to me? MAybe you could elaborate?

[Aronis]

SO. greyfoxxx seems really weird to me atm. Naming reads so quickly is strange, useless, and no offense, but stupid. a+ for effort though!

[Aronis]

Well trolling is anti town. It's whatever you make of it Greyfoxxxxxxxxxx. [Too many xxxH]

[Aronis]

RVS is antitown as a whole. So fishing reactions to give us something to talk about is protown.

Hahahaha. You're joking right? RVS is the most protown phase of the game.

[Aronis]

Now I can truly and honestly say I experienced playing in a Majiffy game! One more thing off my bucket list! andit's a good thing, bc this could be his last modded game ever.

[Aronis]

Vote Double Trouble

Why would Titus want to lurk?

This is a really really really good point. Titus rarely, if ever lurks. Usually she is one of the most active people in game.

VOTE: DoubleTrouble

[Aronis]

Really?

[Aronis]

Aronis, have you ever been in a hydra before? Your reason for scum reading DT seems to be because you dont think they are playing to Titus's meta game, but thats fairly irrelevant since its not just Titus posting.

Also going to take this moment to point out that Aronis and BBT both seem to like joining what ever new wagon pops up, with BBT being especially guilty of this. Shos has looked somewhat better, his explanation of drunk posting at the beginning makes some sense for playing out of character.

UNVOTE: Shos
VOTE: BBT

I'm jumping on every new wagon that shows up?

And I was just moving my vote around to see what happens. Unfortunately, I found the explanation of 'We're trying to actively lurk and cant explain why' not very reassuring, so my vote stays there.

[Aronis]

Agree with the BBT read.
Disagree with the new Shos read. His last post was awkward.
Still null on Aronis. Would like to hear more on his vote though.

What do you want to know about my vote?

[Aronis]

That post is three lines. Is it that hard to fix?

[Aronis]

BBT, Egg, and Shos started by voting Prolapsed, but are now voting with Prolapsed.

Aronis and BBT were on the Shos wagon but are now voting with Shos.

This is stupidly inconsistent. Putting on my Nostradamus hat and saying that Titus is for sure town, and at least 1 scum is for sure in BBT/Egg/Aronis.

My vote on shos was in no way serious and if you consider it as anything but RVS, I will not take you serious for the rest of this game. I vote my scum read, regardless of who, what, or if anyone is voting them.

[Aronis]

Vote Double Trouble

Why would Titus want to lurk?

This is a really really really good point. Titus rarely, if ever lurks. Usually she is one of the most active people in game.

VOTE: DoubleTrouble

^this wasn't the point I was making by the way.

Vote Geraintm

For this copout:

This is going nowhere. I've been waiting for a day for a reason to post and I got nothing.
Random vote will stick where it is till I see a good reason to move it

Another person complaining nothing is happening but doing nothing to progress the game at the same time.

What exactly was you expecting to happen to allow you to post?

No idea really. I find day 1s really hard as I hate moving votes without a great reason. I was just hoping someone to have done something scummy was all...

It's a lame excuse from somebody still random voting. And he acknowledged that he was on the largest wagon at one point which is inconsistent with his apparent cautious style.

And on top of this, find me some town motivation in his ISO. I know it's early, but he seems to be waiting for things to happen ratherthan making them happen or at least interperating what has happened. I don't think you sign up for a mafia game with zero interest in determining who is scum if you draw town.

I really don't see how what you're saying is anything about him is anything but null at this point.

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aronis

[Aronis]

Prolapsed is scum? OK!

VOTE: Prolapsed

I dont like Dr Pants very much atm. But my gut still says he's prob town.

[Aronis]

Prolapsed is scum but idk how else to convince people.

Let's pretend for a moment that PB is mod-confirmed town. Where else are you willing to look?

read through BBT's posts. Overly active doesnt just mean post count. In this case, I mean specifically that hes very quickly moving from wagon to wagon. He isn't sitting on a consistent idea or train of thought, and seems to be just going for whatever the biggest wagon is.

I've explained every one of my votes. If you have issue with them, take me up on it. Otherwise, stop pushing reasons for why I'm scum that have already been explained and are no longer valid.

Prolapsed is scum? OK!

VOTE: Prolapsed

I dont like Dr Pants very much atm. But my gut still says he's prob town.

I don't like Aronis at all so far. His ISO is full of fluff and lacking any sort of scum-hunting. His votes have been pretty badly timed with bad explanations and now he's sheeping onto PB.

@

Aronis

, how and why did your read change on DT?

Why are you voting PB?

VOTE: Aronis

It changed?

I'm town reading Beck.

[Aronis]

this early stage?

you realize this game has been going on longer than we have days left in the day phase right? How long are you going to be content with letting a scummy player lurk?

No, I didn't realise that. The small number of pages must have threw me off, I thought we were only 4 or 5 days in.

This is a quiet D1.

OK, time for some pressure.

VOTE: PB

Ummm. What changed about your read on me?

Why are you voting Prolapsed?

[Aronis]

more votes on aronis pls

Why?

[Aronis]

Prolapsed is scum? OK!

VOTE: Prolapsed

I dont like Dr Pants very much atm. But my gut still says he's prob town.

This is a very scummy post. Taking another player's word on alignment (AKA sheeping) is very lazy and something scum do. A lot.

shos isn't looking terribly town right now, either.

BBT, do you have any reason to vote me other than lurking? Or supposed "lack" of content?

I feel like you're just shadily trying to you OMGUS me for voting you, so you can jump on my wagon at a moments notice, finishing me off and avoiding the heat.

because it is both a sheep, and a bad question reactions, and a horrible reason to vote a person, and a silent jump on a rising wagon.

What's wrong with sheeping? Okay. K. Ummm. Silent? Like I can't secret vote.

[Aronis]

Looking forward to seeing Aronis swing

I oinda think this is just your play, if I remember right. But this feels rather creepy. Anyways, could you elaborate?

[Aronis]

I sorry. But I don't understand how you can consider me scum, when you're doing the exact same thing. Unless you're scum, then I understand.

[Aronis]

Prolapsed is scum but idk how else to convince people.

Let's pretend for a moment that PB is mod-confirmed town. Where else are you willing to look?

read through BBT's posts. Overly active doesnt just mean post count. In this case, I mean specifically that hes very quickly moving from wagon to wagon. He isn't sitting on a consistent idea or train of thought, and seems to be just going for whatever the biggest wagon is.

I've explained every one of my votes. If you have issue with them, take me up on it. Otherwise, stop pushing reasons for why I'm scum that have already been explained and are no longer valid.

Prolapsed is scum? OK!

VOTE: Prolapsed

I dont like Dr Pants very much atm. But my gut still says he's prob town.

I don't like Aronis at all so far. His ISO is full of fluff and lacking any sort of scum-hunting. His votes have been pretty badly timed with bad explanations and now he's sheeping onto PB.

@

Aronis

, how and why did your read change on DT?

Why are you voting PB?

VOTE: Aronis

So you're going after me for changing my votes and being a scumread of yours, correct?

I could vote him but it would be on the premise that he is lurking and I don't feel comfortable with that at this early stage. Sure, if his behaviour continues and nothing improves in terms of his posting frequency and the content of his posts, I'll gladly jump on that wagon.

Then you say you're unwilling to vote Prolapsed, bc it would just be for lurking and you don't feel comfortable with that.

this early stage?

you realize this game has been going on longer than we have days left in the day phase right? How long are you going to be content with letting a scummy player lurk?

No, I didn't realise that. The small number of pages must have threw me off, I thought we were only 4 or 5 days in.

This is a quiet D1.

OK, time for some pressure.

VOTE: PB

Firstly, how did you not know this game has been going on? You didn't replace in.

But that's not the main problem. You vote someone who your scumread is voting, you clearly state you're voting them for pressure, not bc of a scum read, and quit voting your scum read and move to a wagon that is just for pressure. What the hell? And the read on me couldn't have changed, considering this was four posts ago and nothing in between was really about me.

[Aronis]

Fine, have it your way.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

[Aronis]

Fine, have it your way.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

I realized I should prob explain this.

I feel like Toffee is being very dodgy and I can't honestly say I've liked any of his votes.

[Aronis]

Should I vote shos?

I doubt I'll have time to get on be4 dl tomorrow.

[Aronis]

If people want to quick lynch pants for wanting to NL, let me know

vote aronis

Not voting shos, my wagon preference isn't going to happen, plus that last post rubs me wrong

Elaborate plz. I don't understand how my post where I just question about deadline is scummy, when others are casting deadline votes and disappearing left and right is not.

[Aronis]

VOTE: Dr. Pants

L-1.

[Aronis]

What does Active Bulletproof mean?

[Aronis]

Ohhh. OK. That makes sense. I guess he just didn't activate it.

[Aronis]

Vote: Aronis

:sigh:

[Aronis]

Yes I know, drawing scum sucks. Better luck next time!

[Aronis]

I'm on board with a Desp lynch at this point. This will prob be considered omgus, but I haven't liked his posts at all and the push on me feels empty.

VOTE: Desperado

[Aronis]

Ummm. Wtf?

[Aronis]

So...we are back to me not having a clue what you're referring to?

To express my feelings towards you, I shall quote a wise man I knew: "Yes I know, drawing scum sucks. Better luck next time! "

[Aronis]

The problem is that in this context the advice is nonsensical.

Advice? I was just relating to you and expressing that I understood your frustration in drawing scum.

[Aronis]

(and for those in the cheap seats, yes this is me protecting my 'scumbuddy')

Unvote

So Natirasha just claimed scum. So lynch Desperado>Natirasha>Perfect Chaos and we have an easy town win.

[Aronis]

^^ shos is correct. can we lych aronis now?

VOTE: aronis

I find it quite amusing that people go after me for doing the same exact thing they are doing.

[Aronis]

^^ shos is correct. can we lych aronis now?

VOTE: aronis

I find it quite amusing that people go after me for doing the same exact thing they are doing.

really?
show me who did what you did from post 577+?

I have nothing against your vote. The vote in #599 on the other hand, I do.

Anyways, I wouldn't lynch me guys.

[Aronis]

how is the 599 vote similar to your vote in any way?

VERY opportunistic.

[Aronis]

I would have to agree that Ace is sheeping like a mofo' so far toDay, that doesn't make him scum though.

Thank you! Well, sorta.

So then how is my vote on Desperado scummy when I'm just sheeping DoubleTrouble?

[Aronis]

So I want to clarify that you saw Desp and no one else visit Egg last night."

Also since this is what you say you meant.

town wouldn't ask this question IMO.

Town wouldn't ask if a single person visited the person who died? Why the fuck would they not? If more than one person visited Egg then I would ask how DT could be so sure that Desp made the kill. Keep pushing this angle though, its making the game interesting at least.

Because he implied that desp did it, town wouldn't ask "you sure nobody else visited?" Scum who knew desp wasn't scum would ask it though.

What if I'm a cop and I visited him last night?

[Aronis]

If I was scum and knew that Desp was town, why wouldnt I just vote Desp and point a finger at him yelling "SCUM!!!"

Because scum wouldn't do such a mean thing.

[Aronis]

So asking for clarification before voting would be scummy to you, and voting for him without asking is scummy looking. I guess I should have just lurked the fuck out of the thread and waited, right?

No, asking for permission to vote is scummy.

[Aronis]

Beck, can you link me to some games where you have had perfect reads please? Just want to make sure that you consistently do this be4 sheeping.

[Aronis]

We're Masons.

[Aronis]

If they're actually masons, they have to be NKd before endgame, so we are not lynching them day 2. That's dumb.

If they're actually? Srsly!?

[Aronis]

@Geraint/Aronis, I don't think you had to claim there, like, at all.

@Nati, still waiting for your reads. You could also try contributing something that's useful, that would be nice.

@Shos, I was thinking along those lines for a second because the timing of that claim is so strange. For now though, we should just leave it be.

I need to re-evaluate my reads from the Pants wagon in light of Aronis being *confirmed town*, one of my Desp/Shos/Beck town-reads could be off.

I know. But someone was rather eager to claim.

[Aronis]

Why is Nati the best lynch?

[Aronis]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I wasn't scum bc nobody was providing a legit case about me. You're doing the exact same thing now?

[Aronis]

Ger and Aronis, have either of you drawn Mason before?

Vote: Perfect Chaos

No. And before you say I was stupid to claim so early. It wasn't my idea. I was happy to wait. It's just kinda hard to wait in my situation.

[Aronis]

unvote

Sorry, I was being serious.

mod, your call. Who are you replacing? Him or me? I'll see your response in the AM.

If it's me, good luck everyone go town

You do realize that Majiffy is the moderator, right?

[Aronis]

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

He is scum. Sheep the conftown!

[Aronis]

Well someone please fucking talk instead of explaibing why you arent, or FFS sheep me.

Hi, shos! Will you help me lynch BBT?

[Aronis]

The Desperado wagon has my full support.

[Aronis]

The Desperado wagon has my full support.

Then why are you chilling on BBT instead of putting me to L-1?

BBT has my fullest support. But good point. I didn't realize that.

VOTE: Desperado!

Goddammit.

[Aronis]

Yup. Desp town.

i found this from isoing the convo.

i would like to hear the magic 180 outside of "reaction"

i still stand by titus scum

Do you want to mass claim?

Or what about flavor claiming?

[Aronis]

Lol. Okay. I now have a solid town read on ika.

[Aronis]

@PC: R u reading the thread? Discussing townreads is a no-no. Plus I'm conftown, so my thoughts must be genuine at least.

And you're in the middle atm. I'd prefer desp.

[Aronis]

The

VT vs. Vanilla Townie

worries me. While we may catch scum, we must consider also, the possiiliy that we just caught a town pr that was reluctant to claim.

[Aronis]

K. Reread that mess. I could see em as scum, but at the same time, he could just be using the abbreviation 'vt' for vanilla townie and just a miss understanding. I'm going to clarify something with gerantim before proceeding though.

[Aronis]

But without explaning exactly what you're talking about, which would make the whole thing pointless, there's always the possibility they don't understand. That doesn't mean I'm not willing to lynch em, I just want to wait a sec.

[Aronis]

Actually, I would gladly join that wagon this instant, if you'd like to proceed.

[Aronis]

I'd rather do Desp. I want to lynch him regardless of the scumslip.

[Aronis]

I'm open to lynching ika, if he gets too out of hand.

[Aronis]

Could we lynch Desp already?

[Aronis]

Aro why Desp over say... ika?

You're saying Desp and ika scumslipped right?

Desp has been alot scummier then ika, if you remove the scumslip stuff. Not to mention DL is less than 24 hours away and desp wagon is bigger. So it's easier to get him lynched, plus if this scumslip isn't real, I still have my townread.

[Aronis]

I'm not opposed to lynching Flames, but are you not confident in the scumslip anymore?