Scum brethren/sist...ren... I would like to conspire privately with town members only, so I will ask you to resist the urge to eavesdrop on what I have to say to the townfolk. As you are ethical, moral criminals, I am sure that you can be trusted to honor our privacy.
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Town folk, please open the spoilered text at the bottom of this post.
Scum brethren/sist...ren... I would like to conspire privately with town members only, so I will ask you to resist the urge to eavesdrop on what I have to say to the townfolk. As you are ethical, moral criminals, I am sure that you can be trusted to honor our privacy.
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In post 1002, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:
Total Wreck - yeah. Fuck townies who play like House is and make me endlessly tunnel, if that happens to be the case.
Relax Wisdom, it's a D1 thing with me.
I get frustrated because there's nothing much to go on and raise a bit of hell, then start settling down D2/D3 when content starts getting created that I can get into.
Refer to http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=59204-
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In post 1010, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:Still. Think from a scum-Kitty perspective. Would she risk the danger of disagreeing with me and drawing my anger, all when I was making it obvious that I was thinking she is town, and thus destroy my read on her? Just after she has seen what happens when I scumread someone?
I don't think so. There's not much to win, there's a ton to lose.
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In post 1014, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:In post 1011, Total Wreck wrote:Not really much to lose. All she'd have to do is let me get lynched, and she'd look righteous while you'd have town blood on your hands. Or NK me, and she could preach all about how she told you so.
Agreed. So why work against that by actively trying to undermine my points against you and therefore make your lynch less likely to happen?
I understand why you're getting paranoid, but she's town.
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In post 1018, House wrote:In post 995, Aronis wrote:All your scumreads have low activity. I highly doubt that's right.
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In post 426, Aronis wrote:
In post 318, Bulbazak wrote:Actually, that was pretty town posting from Aronis. He's much more obvious as scum.
You just really don't understand my game do you? Why do you even bother trying to read me?
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In post 965, Aronis wrote:Pasche is prob town at this point.
Wisdom, If you lynch kitty today, I'll lynch any townie you want tomorrow, provided they don't claim to be a PR.
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In post 972, Aronis wrote:In post 967, KittyCupCake wrote:In post 965, Aronis wrote:Wisdom, If you lynch kitty today, I'll lynch any townie you want tomorrow, provided they don't claim to be a PR.
Townie?
I doubt he'd bus on Day 2, especially after you'd flip scum.
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In post 1020, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:In post 1016, Total Wreck wrote:For the very thing you're giving her. Town cred.
lol no. For that she would have to look into the future and predict I'd stop scumreading you. Which even I wouldn't predict, much less someone who doesn't know me.
Unless what you're trying to say is, she tried to buddy me by helping me out of my tunnel? In which case, no, because calling me a hypocrite and focusing on me explaining my Pasche read is not a great way to buddy.
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She wouldn't have to predict any such thing. She could also expect my death & flip, which could quite easily be arranged via either day or night actions.
This isn't about you, Wisdom. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand. She was working on outmaneuvering you, not buddying you.
After building town cred and cashing in on my death when you had worked so hard to sell TW!scum, she'd come out smelling like a rose and people would start questioningyouralignment.-
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In post 1042, DOMO wrote:Has anyone actually ever seen a dayvig on d1 that wasn't a gambit?
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In post 1079, DOMO wrote:Alright maybe next time I say "what kind of moron uses a dayvig on d1?".
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In post 1090, House wrote:@Wisdom: Notice how he all of a sudden wants to stir the pot now that you aren't doing it for him?
I agree, if his read was sincere, he'd have been supporting you and it would have been more like 2v2 (you and Pasch vs me and Kitty) than 1v1(2).
Pasch is being a sport by building his case now that he's being wagoned.
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In post 1178, House wrote:In post 1177, Paschendale wrote:Really? I'm not allowed to have a tipping point?
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In post 1183, Not_Mafia wrote:Is the Pasch wagon legit or is it the typical opportunistic wagon on town Pasch? Mastin is leading it, so one of them is likely scum.
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In post 1178, House wrote:In post 1177, Paschendale wrote:Really? I'm not allowed to have a tipping point?
Only if it's a 40.
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In post 1188, Not_Mafia wrote:I see. Well I don't hate you or anyone else here. Who are the hydras and who are the known members of them?
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Sup being so obvious, then.-
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In post 1003, Total Wreck wrote:Town folk, please open the spoilered text at the bottom of this post.
Scum brethren/sist...ren... I would like to conspire privately with town members only, so I will ask you to resist the urge to eavesdrop on what I have to say to the townfolk. As you are ethical, moral criminals, I am sure that you can be trusted to honor our privacy.
Spoiler: TOWN EYES ONLY
Bulb didn't read the spoilered text. He must be scum!
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In post 1257, House wrote:You think I'm going to try to lynch Wisdom?
You are hystericlops.
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In post 1272, DOMO wrote:In post 1251, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:You don't care if we lynch town? Like, you feel he's lynchbait yet are okay with it? How does that work?
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Pedit: what more does he need to do to scum it up? He's already being as scummy as one can get.
Yes I care if we lynch town. But I would prefer a mislynch to a no lynch. And "scummy as one can get" is a matter of opinion, and it seems our opinions differ.
In post 1253, mastin2 wrote:Wall of self meta.
I am in awe of your amazing deductive skills.
I feel like you just did some magic. I was looking at your left hand while your right hand did the trick.
As for wreck saying he's bussing his buddy mastin... well aside from the fact that it's specifically against the rules to claim scum with someone else, even as a joke, as stated in OP, which I've read now, I've only ever ONCE seen someone say something along those lines, and guess what, it was scum bussing a buddy.
VOTE: wreck
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In post 1284, Total Wreck wrote:In post 1272, DOMO wrote:In post 1251, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:You don't care if we lynch town? Like, you feel he's lynchbait yet are okay with it? How does that work?
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Pedit: what more does he need to do to scum it up? He's already being as scummy as one can get.
Yes I care if we lynch town. But I would prefer a mislynch to a no lynch. And "scummy as one can get" is a matter of opinion, and it seems our opinions differ.
In post 1253, mastin2 wrote:Wall of self meta.
I feel like you just did some magic. I was looking at your left hand while your right hand did the trick.
As for wreck saying he's bussing his buddy mastin... well aside from the fact that it's specifically against the rules to claim scum with someone else, even as a joke, as stated in OP, which I've read now, I've only ever ONCE seen someone say something along those lines, and guess what, it was scum bussing a buddy.
VOTE: wreck
Happy to lynch mastin too. I guess I prefer wreck because I think mastin is the greater loss when town.
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In post 1289, DOMO wrote:I think it's a bt early in the game to be using language like "useless" against someone who is at least posting regularly. I'm not reading past pages until I have flips. That should be understandable. If I read up now, then I do so with less information, meaning the conclusions I draw are less reliable.
Do you think I actually planned to be lazy? Do you think that's how laziness works?
They're more reliable than basing your reads on absolutely nothing.
More information is never a bad thing.
You are making excuses for not forming reads you can be held accountable for, and swinging at low hanging fruit.
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In post 1272, DOMO wrote:In post 1251, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:You don't care if we lynch town? Like, you feel he's lynchbait yet are okay with it? How does that work?
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Pedit: what more does he need to do to scum it up? He's already being as scummy as one can get.
Yes I care if we lynch town. But I would prefer a mislynch to a no lynch. And "scummy as one can get" is a matter of opinion, and it seems our opinions differ.
In post 1253, mastin2 wrote:Wall of self meta.
I feel like you just did some magic. I was looking at your left hand while your right hand did the trick.
As for wreck saying he's bussing his buddy mastin... well aside from the fact that it's specifically against the rules to claim scum with someone else, even as a joke, as stated in OP, which I've read now, I've only ever ONCE seen someone say something along those lines, and guess what, it was scum bussing a buddy.
VOTE: wreck
Happy to lynch mastin too. I guess I prefer wreck because I think mastin is the greater loss when town.
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So you don't scum read Bulbazak, you just want to kill someone you think is town?-
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In post 1310, DOMO wrote:In post 1303, Total Wreck wrote:Do show us where I said that
Well why suddenly am I swinging for low hanging fruit when I've been on your case most of the day? Why are you low hanging fruit? You're not going to go down quietly, you're hardly an easy wagon to push because you're gonna come back fighting. So I don't agree that you're low hanging fruit, whatever that means.
Of course I'm low hanging fruit.
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In post 1315, Doubleslap wrote:it was a null read i was ok with lynching
i'm fine as long we don't lynch a townread
This is scumposting.
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It quite obviously is.
Lynching "null reads" = pro scum
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In post 1327, Doubleslap wrote:and i'd be kinda ok? maybe? with a mastin lynch but i'd still prefer to lynch a simultaneous scumread + if town maybe it's ok because bad read on me. mastin is more just "i'd think she has bad reads as of late but she's townreading me so hmmm"
seo and i both lolwtfed at the rage posting and its discussion/argument over legitimacy tho
Considering you think I'm scum, you can understand why I don't lend your reads much weight.
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In post 1428, Doubleslap wrote:reading
marquis is watching agents of shield
also he is rly sure that tw is scum "cus of other games" but no other explanation
Translation: He wants to kill me because I was a jerk after I end-gamed him.
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In post 1472, Paschendale wrote:In post 1459, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:scum reads dont have to be explained, nor understood. She scumreads bulba, and thats it.
If you can't justify a scumread, I have no reason whatsoever to think that you aren't lying about it. If I think you're lying about it, I certainly won't vote along with you, and will vote for you instead. If you don't justify a read, there's no reason to think you're right, and no one should vote along with you, and so you aren't actually pushing to get your suspects lynched. That means you aren't actually trying to help town win the game. Therefore, you're scum and should be lynched. Don't like it? Then justify your fucking positions.
Good luck getting through to him on that.
Seriously.
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In post 1489, Bulbazak wrote:In post 1459, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:scum reads dont have to be explained, nor understood. She scumreads bulba, and thats it.
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Except Mastin-town is more than capable of explaining her reads. She thrives off of manipulating people as scum, so not holding her accountable is giving her free reign. Frankly, Mastinshouldbe held to a higher standard than most players, because she is that good as scum, and you don't want to give her any wiggle room.
No she's not. What happened to that Mastin scum read?
In post 1475, Total Wreck wrote:In post 1472, Paschendale wrote:In post 1459, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:scum reads dont have to be explained, nor understood. She scumreads bulba, and thats it.
If you can't justify a scumread, I have no reason whatsoever to think that you aren't lying about it. If I think you're lying about it, I certainly won't vote along with you, and will vote for you instead. If you don't justify a read, there's no reason to think you're right, and no one should vote along with you, and so you aren't actually pushing to get your suspects lynched. That means you aren't actually trying to help town win the game. Therefore, you're scum and should be lynched. Don't like it? Then justify your fucking positions.
Good luck getting through to him on that.
Seriously.
I've said pretty much the same thing in the past. He shrugs it off...
Aren't you scum reading Pasch?
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In post 1524, GuyInFreezer wrote:In post 1522, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:In post 1499, farside22 wrote:Can I put wisdom ignore for being a hypocrite?
Seriously.
I want to replace out for his attitude alone.
hypocrisy is a thing you deal with in mafia, period.
lack of emotion in our last game makes me feel a little better about you, but not by a whole lot. emotions aside, your play feels nearly exactly like the last game we played, and the things that make me want to call you town this game are the same reasons I used last game and it scares me.
your logic is sound, but it lacks analysis and, from the kind of player I think you are, that is kinda underbearing
pedit: mastin's a she
It's still very hard for me to remember that ;_;
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In post 1527, Bulbazak wrote:In post 1523, Total Wreck wrote:In post 1489, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 1475, Total Wreck wrote:In post 1472, Paschendale wrote:In post 1459, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:scum reads dont have to be explained, nor understood. She scumreads bulba, and thats it.
If you can't justify a scumread, I have no reason whatsoever to think that you aren't lying about it. If I think you're lying about it, I certainly won't vote along with you, and will vote for you instead. If you don't justify a read, there's no reason to think you're right, and no one should vote along with you, and so you aren't actually pushing to get your suspects lynched. That means you aren't actually trying to help town win the game. Therefore, you're scum and should be lynched. Don't like it? Then justify your fucking positions.
Good luck getting through to him on that.
Seriously.
I've said pretty much the same thing in the past. He shrugs it off...
Aren't you scum reading Pasch?
How is that in any way relevant to my response to him?
Because it looks like you're treating him as town.
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In post 1565, KittyCupCake wrote:So, I'm just going to sit here, quietly, hating the mastin wagon.
Convincing post is convincing.
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