Mini 1641 - AP and BRO's Excellent Adventure (Game over!)

[Jake from State Farm]

Sup

[Jake from State Farm]

Busy weekend, be back Tuesday

[Jake from State Farm]

ok getting back into this game now, sorry bout the bad timing.

vote: sera

(no it's not rvs)

on to page 2 now.

[Jake from State Farm]

also srs vote

Vote:Iecerint.

for awkwardly ending his sentence in tbf

I felt pretty sheepish about it. There's no shame in you reading it that way.

The whole sequence was that I intended to vote someone I didn't know because I knew I knew most of the players, I skimmed down to look at who had voted first to see if there was something votable there already (which could supercede that), I saw that dram had already voted my least-known player, I looked back at the playerlist and saw that I knew basically every other player to at least an extent (including Vyse, who I've seen here and there and whose name I thought I recognized from Tactics Ogre, but I see now that that was Vyce), so no one else really fit with what I wanted to do, so I felt kinda frustrated, but I went with it Vyse anyway. I was feeling the frustration somewhat, so I decided to let that be expressed in my post.

not a fan of this post by ice

[Jake from State Farm]

So guys. Who would you love to have in this game. Who on this site can read you well?

why are you asking dumb questions? Not liking this attempt at distraction away from scum hunting.

Actiondan- town. His weird stuff about adding a player to the game doesn't read like a scum distraction. It reads like having fun without worrying how people read him.

I disagree, please explain how it's not a distraction from scum hunting?

glad to see my gut about sera still holding firm

nikanor why are you faking a post restriction? and don't say it's not faked cause my BS meter is off the charts already.

@ dram - why on earth are you town reading sera?


sticking with my sera vote, kiwi gets the silver medal and it's a 2 way tie for bronze atm. Gotta figure all these reads out soon.

[Jake from State Farm]

oh I thought it was clear. My apologies.

It comes from I think he is scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

Am I correct in inferring that your "non-rvs" sera vote is based on something from page 1?

yes I got a gut twinge from sera on page 1 and nothing he has posted since has made me feel better about him

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake, I don't know how I can possibly be more clear about Actiondan. It seemed more like he was trying to have RVS fun than intentionally distract. Yeah, it's dumb and ends up being distracting, but I just don't see the intent. I dont think it was ill-motivated. You said you disagree. Can you tell me why?

I feel it was an obvious distraction from advancing the game, and it sort of worked because there were numerous posts talking about his question which took away from scum hunting.

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake: Wanna fight me, bro? any post in particular jumping out to you or you just gonna sheep shit that Egg posts for you?

all of your posts, and you just make yourself look bad in this one also cause my vote and read of you has jack shit to do with what egg is doing. I got a gut read on you from your very first post and i don't believe egg was talking about you on page one. hold up let me check...

nope he wasn't.

[Jake from State Farm]

@ dram - why on earth are you town reading sera?

oh I thought it was clear. My apologies.

It comes from I think he is

scum

town.

please don't be editing my posts like that anymore...

Thank you

[Jake from State Farm]

uhh I Dont know what to think at this point, I'm going to read into this more tomorrow, but there has been something on my mind as of lately

Vote Jake from state farm

My name is Jake in real life, and you know how irritating it is

When people bring that commercial joke up to me?

It gets really old after awhile, and I just wish they never made it damnit!

lol

Just be glad your name isn't mike

[Jake from State Farm]

oh I didn't even notice that post. Nope I got a gut read off you based off of this post

[Jake from State Farm]

Explain the gut twinge.

How do you explain gut? Idk, I read it and was like he doesn't feel like a townie, seems to have an agenda already

[Jake from State Farm]

Dan could be scum. I would want to skim for his drunkposting elsewhere on the site during his activity earlier before moving on this I think.

What do you hope to gain from that?

Jake, I'm surprised if you really think that was intentional on Actiondan's part, but ok.

You don't think he intentionally asked MD type question to distract the town? Weird

[Jake from State Farm]

How do you explain gut? Idk, I read it and was like he doesn't feel like a townie, seems to have an agenda already

This gave an impression of Sera having an agenda?

Gut is, to me at least, something that you can explain but generally won't make sense to anyone else. Why do you get the impression that Sera has an agenda based off of that post alone?

yes, to me anyway. not sure what it is but it seemed like it to me, and his follow up postings haven't been anything that I am getting town vibes from either

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake get the broom out of your ass.

Suddenly my vote feels so much better

I have no broom up my ass but thank you for your concern

[Jake from State Farm]

Drunk posts = auto scum read for me, almost ever encounter of a drunk poster has been scum. No town motivation for shitting on a game with drunk posts

[Jake from State Farm]

Seriously, my vote is not random, I hate Jake from state farm!!!!!!!!!!

You sound hideous

[Jake from State Farm]

nikanor why are you faking a post restriction? and don't say it's not faked cause my BS meter is off the charts already.

i'm not faking a post restriction.

beep beep i'm a jeep

I don't believe you

[Jake from State Farm]

Last fake post restriction I saw was from scum and nik messed up once and wasn't punished, so I believe its fake

[Jake from State Farm]

No, mafia is srs bsns ಠ_ಠ

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't have scumreads nor have i looked hard to find them.. yet

[Jake from State Farm]

How do you know the bolded?

did you see her get one? me neither.

warnings and/or punishments usually occur in thread(or should be imo unless it's a bastard game) or have some game related consequence like losing your vote or something (based on personal experience)

[Jake from State Farm]

The only game I can recall having a post restriction in, my penalty was directly related to my role and wouldn't have been announced.

Actually, I can't remember every seeing a post restriction penalized in thread.

Pretty sure I have had one, lost my vote for the day

[Jake from State Farm]

Oh she messed up twice...

vote: nik

[Jake from State Farm]

Actually 3 times

[Jake from State Farm]

Blatant prod dodge. Sorry guys, having trouble keeping up with commitments. I'll be on here in the next day or two.

I'm eager to hear some content from you, hopefully you follow through on this

[Jake from State Farm]

Do you know why I'm voting you?

Can you explain why you are voting him, and maybe comment on other things as well?

I know you like to do this whole mysterious lurker thing but its rather annoying and not really helpful if you are town. Please post more.

Thanks

[Jake from State Farm]

Actually 3 times

I still don't see why this is scummy...

People tend to write people off when they have a post restriction, people subconsciously assume they are town cause mod wouldn't give scum a PR. No town motivation to fake one IMO. Plus I'm not impressed with her contribution so far

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm not impressed with any of them, looks like she is trying to be useful but really isn't

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm pretty confident at this point that both Seraphim and Egg are both Town.

Why? Neither has demonstrated town qualities

[Jake from State Farm]

Actually they have.

Besides being stubborn and headupasses, they are both being genuine, in what I think is just a stylistic clash/difference. Each on it's own probably isn't enough for a Town read, but all together, it's enough of one for now.

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake is tunneling for post restricion mistakes.

False

[Jake from State Farm]

You have 33 posts and your only vote has been from a post restriction mistake.

False again

I've had 2 serious votes and neither was solely based on a post restriction mistake

[Jake from State Farm]

@ Kiwi, Dan previously had a meta of being an active lurker while scum. He was lynched on those grounds in uhhhhhhhh Reckoning III most recently that I can think of. More recently he's decided to combat this by being an active lurker as both alignments, which is why I framed it the way that I did. His behavior is no longer a sure thing and I'm not going to pretend it is.

I do think he's maybe probably more likely to be scum than VysePresident.

So basicly.Dan has.decided to become a shit town player.to make himself harder to read.when he's scum?

[Jake from State Farm]

Post restriction is all I see mentioned.

I guess you didn't see this?

Plus I'm not impressed with her contribution so far

Or this?

I'm not impressed with any of them, looks like she is trying to be useful but really isn't

Why you trying to lie bro?

vote: kiwi

Lying and misrepping me is a scum claim imo

[Jake from State Farm]

Well, you've basically described the current site meta in general, but yeah.

That sucks

[Jake from State Farm]

I could probably get behind a kiwi wagon too.

The word splooge on the previous page was very underwhelming.

Help Me lynch kiwi and I'll not try and lead a wagon for the remainder of the game. Anyone who knows me knows that is probably very hard for me and will probably help make the game more readable

[Jake from State Farm]

Lie #1
You have had one “serious vote”.

Not a lie

Lie #2
The one serious voted you had WAS BASED on post restriction mistakes.

No it wasn't

Lie #3
Oh my bad. So you add a “plus” and then write some half-assed reason and suddenly I am lying?
Nikanor has added equal or more than you to this thread.

This isn't a lie so I am not even sure why you listed it as one, but thanks for confirming that Lie #2 isn't actually a lie.

So you... mr.useful can suddenly vote on Nik because she is trying to be useful.... but really isn’t? How is that even bad? At least she is trying?

Scum have to try to appear useful but usually fail sort of like what she is doing.

On the other hand, all you have done is tunnel on Nik FOR A POST RESTRICTION MISTAKE.

That's not true at all

1. I was pushing on Serra earlier, and he reacted poorly which indicates that he is more likely to be scum so he solidified one of my scum reads
2. I decided to interact with a lurking player which in turn caused that player to post more and that will help reading him better instead of letting him continue to lurk
3. I caught 2nd scum who falsely accused a player of lying and also misrepped his posts both of which are scumtells more often than not and possibly a 3rd scum who is faking a post restriction so they can be read as town and is actively doing nothing wit regards to trying to find scum.

That seems pretty productive to me. Nik hasn't even found 1 scum(she can't btw cause she is scum) and I have found 3.

And then cry about how you’re being misrepped.

I never cried and you DID misrep me, you even admitted that you did. Remember? here let me quote it for you

Oh my bad. So you add a “plus” and then write some half-assed reason

but it wasn't some half-assed reason, it was a very GOOD reason.

[Jake from State Farm]

Konoea is still frustrated
Jake still does not realize the reasoning behind his vote was a pr mistake SOMETHING explicitly stated in his vote.

I know damn well what the reasoning behind my vote was. Just because I didn't give my full reason when I actually voted doesn't mean I didn't have more. I purposely withhold information with my votes and there is a reason for that.

[Jake from State Farm]

coincidentally enough it's the same reason why I didn't explain the reason why i withhold information when I vote...

[Jake from State Farm]

@jack
Oh right I forgot to turn on my mind reading cap when quickly skimming ISOs and making quick analysis on every person

Has nothing to do with mind reading. See you just failed my test. Somebody trying to figure things out are going to be more inquisitive, I'm vague cause I want to see how people react. Who's gonna be inquisitive (town trait) and ask questions and who's going to be manipulative and try to discredit me (scum trait)

Now guess which one you did?

You scum

[Jake from State Farm]

My last many many many games in a row have given me zero payoff. All the fun of it was sucked out by players who couldn't be bothered.

But isn't that how you typically play? (Not being a dick, its just im Pretty sure that's why I avoided you in the past)

[Jake from State Farm]

oh must be confusing you with someone else, my bad

[Jake from State Farm]

Jack cleary is not voting nik because of a pr and his initial motives had nothing to do with that

Sort I didn't feel like typing out the entire reason in my summary, its like you don't know what a summary is or something...

[Jake from State Farm]

Welp, OK egg I'll sheep you today.

Why kiwi was playing like scum I'll never understand

[Jake from State Farm]

i'm bored also and egg hasn't told me who to vote yet

[Jake from State Farm]

My last many many many games in a row have given me zero payoff. All the fun of it was sucked out by players who couldn't be bothered.

My last many many many games in a row have given me zero payoff. All the fun of it was sucked out by players who couldn't be bothered.

But isn't that how you typically play? (Not being a dick, its just im Pretty sure that's why I avoided you in the past)

No, it isn't.

so then it's just this game you have decided to play like the people you hate?

[Jake from State Farm]

Not sure why you're asking me but Sera, Dramonic, and ABR are all excellent choices.

Because I said if kiwi got lynched I wouldn't push anyone, and while he didn't get lynched, he was modkilled and to me that's the same thing. So I'm sheeping my biggest town read, that's you unfortunately

vote: Sera

[Jake from State Farm]

so let's see if my intial read on serra was correct

vote: serra

[Jake from State Farm]

soo what's up guys

Vote: Seraphim.

Not much else to do here.
First glance at Iec's reaction says he's scum too though.

beep beep i'm a jeep

can we stop the charade already? I find it hard to believe the mod would let you have that many free passes

[Jake from State Farm]

Be sure a claim is on record before he's lynched.

Idk why but this post just seems off, I mean yeah common sense says let him claim, just didn't feel it needed to be said at this point

[Jake from State Farm]

First glance at Iec's reaction says he's scum too though.

I agree with this actually

[Jake from State Farm]

I would like to hear more players' perspective on whether Sera is autolynch in the absence of something extraordinary before he rushes to claim, though, unless deadline is unchanged.

but you already said you think he is going to rush to claim in this post. Do you honestly think he is going to get speed lynched without the possibility of claiming or even attempting a defense?

[Jake from State Farm]

Don't believe the claim

[Jake from State Farm]

I think there's a good chance at a bus in those three post-claim votes (and I'd maybe lump Jake's comment in with those) if Sera is scum. Iec makes a good point about the track. Like that's kind of provable even though scum trackers exist and could be useful info if Sera is town. But Sera is so likely scum and everyone else seems just as sure, so my vote stays.

Don't lump my comment in, I have thought he's scum from.the jump

[Jake from State Farm]

I think there's a good chance at a bus in those three post-claim votes (and I'd maybe lump Jake's comment in with those) if Sera is scum. Iec makes a good point about the track. Like that's kind of provable even though scum trackers exist and could be useful info if Sera is town. But Sera is so likely scum and everyone else seems just as sure, so my vote stays.

Don't lump my comment in, I have thought he's scum from.the jump

3 = three = Iec/Dram/ABR

You missed the part where he added my name at the end

[Jake from State Farm]

It'll really suck if I ever get killed/lynched, I hope the fun.never stops

[Jake from State Farm]

It'll really suck if I ever get killed/lynched, I hope the fun.never stops

well now we HAVE to lynch you.

[Jake from State Farm]

By my count.he has 7 votes, that's more than enough

[Jake from State Farm]

Yeah, he deserves a little break from the site

P.edit - yeah deserves a scummy nom for most enjoyable game

[Jake from State Farm]

That post makes Jake probtown

Thanks for putting a target on my back

[Jake from State Farm]

You fail so bad if you think I'm scum

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: ice

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: jake

boy oh boy.

Bad call.

[Jake from State Farm]

Nah. If I get lynched or killed everyone will hate life.

[Jake from State Farm]

Lists suck

Scum
Ice

Town
Everyone.else

GG

[Jake from State Farm]

It is.

[Jake from State Farm]

Who's jack?

[Jake from State Farm]

Obviously he hasn't read the thread, cause if he did he would see scum is clearly ice. Ice was defensive when I was attacking his buddy and then only voted his other buddy as a joke that ended badly for him.

It has to be ice

[Jake from State Farm]

You know I meant you <_<

If I let you lynch me, will you Lynch ice tomorrow when I flip town?

[Jake from State Farm]

OK, you have my blessing to Lynch me. Now you.have to convince people. I'll get my popcorn ready.

[Jake from State Farm]

Drams vote definitely isn't based on night actions I can tell you that much. I see he's still not trying to convince anyone...

[Jake from State Farm]

Also, my reaction to all of this stuff is tempered by ABR's recent decision to claim scum and forfeit for no reason a few days ago in another game, similarly when he wasn't the last scum alive. It bothered me there, too. You can read my reaction in the last few pages. It was a little more extreme there because I had been pretty into that game up until ABR's forfeit.

Getting around to this finally, you don't seem nearly as frustrated in that game as you do here. Here you seem genuinely frustrated/annoyed which makes no sense if you are town considering we nabbed 2 scum cause of it. Your frustration definitely makes sense if you are scum though, plus your reactions to both getting killed/lynched also make sense if you are scum.

Nik picked up in it also, not sure why she had a chance of heart overnight but hopefully she comes around and beep beeps her jeep on you

[Jake from State Farm]

It's not trumped up, his reaction was completely out of line for a townie

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't know him enough to say if that's him being him or not but paired with his reactions to both scum getting pressured, he looks bad

[Jake from State Farm]

yes really

[Jake from State Farm]

I think you're definitely wrong.

Nope. I'm not scum, my role pm says I'm not, and there's no information you have that says otherwise. So if you ate faking a guilty let's go. You will hang tomorrow, I'll make sure of it

[Jake from State Farm]

I've got nothing to hide, you are the one making shit up

[Jake from State Farm]

lol so you just want me lynched out of some vendetta or something... Right well ice is probably scum so don't distract me with your bullshit anymore.

[Jake from State Farm]

For clarity i dont mean that as a PL or VI phrase. I mean in this current situation.

No 425 clearly means pl or vi, and since I'm not a vi and don't deserved to be pl'd, your credibility is shot.

[Jake from State Farm]

Im not though. Your lynch is beneficial to the town, regardless of flip.

This says otherwise

[Jake from State Farm]

The only player who said that the reason you're currently pushing me (upset at town-assisting modkills) could make any sense was me, oddly enough.

But that's not the only reason I'm pushing you,.that's like the minor point against you

[Jake from State Farm]

What's the reason you're pushing me, then? That's what I see you focused on in your posts.

(Again, I am not objecting to that as a reason to suspect me. My point in clarifying it there was that you said that Niki "picked up on it too," but it's not actually what Niki said he picked up on.)

Try reading cause I clearly stated them.

Thanks

[Jake from State Farm]

Im not though. Your lynch is beneficial to the town, regardless of flip.

This says otherwise

Not really. I cant act while you're alive :/

Huh?

[Jake from State Farm]

Nope, if I get lynched today I'm making sure he dies tomorrow.
Sorry

[Jake from State Farm]

Plus if he can't use his ability and we didn't have a kill last night...

[Jake from State Farm]

You're making sure dram gets lynched?

So you think dram is scum?

If he lynches me then yes I'll think he's scum. He's made up some bs claim to lynch me. First he tried to imply he had a night result, now he's implying something else. His actions aren't town motivated

[Jake from State Farm]

You must be a cowgirl fan, living in the past.

You have already showed bad decision making by choosing me, so you don't get anymore decisions (though I don't believe your claim anyway since you already tried to mislead people)

[Jake from State Farm]

Drams vote definitely isn't based on night actions I can tell you that much. I see he's still not trying to convince anyone...

Oh

really

?

Here. This implies what I said is wrong and implies you have a night action result

[Jake from State Farm]

At best you are a lyncher, worse case you are scum trying some hail Mary trying to Lynch one of the towniest people in the game. Actually at worst you are town lying cause you have some kinda vendetta against me (you just gave me motive for this)

You don't have some ability that is blocked cause I'm alive, that is a pure lie.

[Jake from State Farm]

Drams vote definitely isn't based on night actions I can tell you that much. I see he's still not trying to convince anyone...

Oh

really

?

Here. This implies what I said is wrong and implies you have a night action result

Not really. My vote is based on night actions: my currently unavailable one.

Go find some other sucker. You are full of h
Shit and I'm not getting lynched cause some bs claim like that. If I do, like I said I will make sure you get lynched tomorrow cause at best you are scum and at worst you are town playing against your win condition

[Jake from State Farm]

Sucks to be you if you are town telling the truth (thankfully it isn't)

[Jake from State Farm]

I think you are scum, I think dram is probably town lying to get me lynched cause he has an issue with me and that's confirmed cause he admitted he has an issue with me based off a previous game.

Town should lynch you
If I get lynched town will lynch dram tomorrow regardless his alignment

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't know history of anyone, itndoesnt matter. If he succeeds I. Lynching me, he gets lynched tomorrow. That's how these 1v1s work

[Jake from State Farm]

You clearly don't know what a 1v1 is.

I.do. and I said if he gets me lynched, he is absolutely getting lynched tomorrow. He's scum lying or town playing against this win con. His role (if hes telling the truth) isnt his wincon. Trying to lynch town cause he covers his role more.than lynching scum.is.the very definition of playing against his win condition

[Jake from State Farm]

Covets*

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm obv town. If you say otherwise you clearly haven't been reading this game and should probably just keep quiet if you are town.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm obv town. If you say otherwise you clearly haven't been reading this game and should probably just keep quiet if you are town.

Never heard that from you before

If others are picking up.on.it, there is validity behind it...

[Jake from State Farm]

What makes you think Jake is town?

My partner cited interactions with both flipped scum and looking back I agree. I believe each were a bit too confrontational with him early than they would otherwise be if he were a scum partner

Whoever they are, they are smart.

[Jake from State Farm]

Sorry when people.try.to mislynch me, I don't keep quiet.

[Jake from State Farm]

Still think its ice

vote: egg

[Jake from State Farm]

I can confirm I was blocked. I didn't get a result for my watch. Attempted to watch Vyse. I was guessing at the NK.

Also my eyes hurt from doing other stuff so my re-read is gonna have to be put off. I'd like to do it even if I'm being lynched so we can talk about who goes next and stuff.

Why did you watch vyse?

Had to edit myself on that one

[Jake from State Farm]

But watcher isn't trying to get guilties...

[Jake from State Farm]

Why not?

Isn't the point to catch scum performing the NK?

Watcher doesn't see what action.they are doing



Fake claim is fake

[Jake from State Farm]

If the guy you target dies, and you see who targetted him, you have caught scum. Two names makes it 50/50. Three names would even be 33% and better than random and useful later.

Srsly PR play 101.

1. I thought you were.saying you were hoping to catch him performing a nk

2. he certainly wasn't a threat to be nk'd, like if everyone made a list of most likely nk targets. I seriously doubt he would be near the top

[Jake from State Farm]

whoa maybe jack really is scum

bop bop i'm a jop

Nope, just misunderstood what he was saying

[Jake from State Farm]

unvote

Just to annoy Albert and allow more discussion

[Jake from State Farm]

Who's Aaron?

[Jake from State Farm]

Oh Ahhhron, where is Aaahron?

[Jake from State Farm]

damn that was funny

[Jake from State Farm]

How much more time do you need?

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: egg

[Jake from State Farm]

No it didnt look town, fake claim is fake

[Jake from State Farm]

Fake claim from Vyse, Egg or Nikanor?

Egg, I already called his claim fake. Read better

[Jake from State Farm]

No, Nikanor should block Jake.

No he shouldn't

[Jake from State Farm]

You need to tell us who you block...in case you die

Well that's a great idea actually but nik.blocked egg and no kill happened so your stalling on egg makes no sense. Do you realize how easy it is to manipulate people into thinking you are town when you are near lynch? It's literally the easiest thing in the world.

If nik is telling the truth, scum has to be egg. The claim seems fake, the choice of person definitely makes no sense, and the flavor even seems fake.

Egg Lynch should end the game unless we have shenanigans

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

Nah,not really provable

[Jake from State Farm]

If nik is scum I'll be p. Happy

[Jake from State Farm]

d) i thought asians were good at math

that's not nice.

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: albert

[Jake from State Farm]

i'm not scum but you claimed scum already so yeah...

[Jake from State Farm]

no, i'm not even remotely close to being scum. nothing about my play has even been scummy and i nailed scum day 1

you however just cc'd a power role and admitted you lied so yeah you are scum

[Jake from State Farm]

Idk I'm off my game tonight

tonight? how about the entire game...

[Jake from State Farm]

Just the day play scumminess.

delusional right here. my play has been the epitome of protown play.

[Jake from State Farm]

well at least you consistently have shitty reads.

[Jake from State Farm]

you or egg are getting lynched so that plan doesn't work

[Jake from State Farm]

and since you basically claimed scum, pretty sure it will be you

[Jake from State Farm]

hey albert.. can you kill and do another action at the same time?

[Jake from State Farm]

i wonder if scum can kill and action at the same time.

I think in newbies they can if they are the only scum alive

[Jake from State Farm]

How does my lynch make konowa scum?

[Jake from State Farm]

Dram needs to stop being selfish, the greater good of winning > whatever PR he supposedly has (which BTW I still don't believe he has one as he admitted he has a grudge)

Abr is the right lynch today, if not him egg.

[Jake from State Farm]

Clearly you missed where he tried to cc nik, get nik lynched and then when nobody followed, retracted.

Town doesn't do that.

[Jake from State Farm]

So Albert is a vi? Only a vi would lie as town. If he's town he's blown his 2nd chance with me. He can diaf for all I care

[Jake from State Farm]

Nope, no mod post yet

[Jake from State Farm]

I am

[Jake from State Farm]

Never claimed to be good, but at least I don't play as bad as you do in every game I've ever played with you. I don't lie and I certainly don't fake claim as town (assuming you are actually town)

I play with integrity and i try to win.

None of those I have ever seen from you

[Jake from State Farm]

Doesn't matter. Its never acceptable to lie unless you are scum

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't really need to show up and have an amazing game when we have 2 scum dead D1.

You weren't doing anything amazing before those dead scum died either though

[Jake from State Farm]

umm I was pressuring and trying to lyncg my top 2 scum reads, one of them just happened to be scum... I guess you missed that one huh?

[Jake from State Farm]

and why is that? what have I done that makes me scum. I could use some good fiction right about now

[Jake from State Farm]

Yeah a broken clock is right twice a day.

btw this implies you don't actually think I'm scum

[Jake from State Farm]

in other words you can't.

such an awesome player you are... /heavy sarcasm

[Jake from State Farm]

[Jake from State Farm]

lol silly man, he isn't a bodyguard, he decided he was bored and wanted to troll for fun

[Jake from State Farm]

if you believe anything he says now I have some ocean front property in arizona for you to buy.

[Jake from State Farm]

Why did you push Egg as you did if you knew you could also account for the lack of kill?

see this is more proof he is lying. If he could account for the lack of a kill he wouldn't have pushed like he did. There was no town motivation for that

[Jake from State Farm]

only need 3 more to lynch albert. let's go

[Jake from State Farm]

I understand logic perfectly fine, there was no logic that explains your actions with the exception of 2 things. 1. you are scum or 2. you are trolling

either way you are an acceptable casualty for today.

[Jake from State Farm]

scum could have forgotten to submit their action
egg is scum and was blocked and you are just a troll who i am trying to policy lynch for my own sanity
somebody actually is a bulletproof and was targeted (100% not you)
somebody is actually a doctor (100% not you)
somebody is actually a bodyguard (100% not you)
Scum NK'd on purpose for confusion (not likely but I have seen dumber things)

[Jake from State Farm]

If there was a doctor or bodyguard or bulletproof town, they could just counterclaim me. There's only one scum left you donkey.

I have seen games on site with 4 scum.

in all honesty I just think you are a troll who got bored and decided to fuck around and ruin this game for the lulz. I think that anything you say should be disregarded as you have no credibility left and there is NO WAY you are what you claim you are because using LOGIC and COMMON SENSE, you would not have pushed for an egg lynch like you did knowing there was another explanation for the lack of kill.

I am more than willing to delay ending this game to policy lynch you because quite frankly you deserve to be policy lynched.

Your actions DIRECTLY CONTRADICT your "role" that is why I can say with 100% certainty you are lying.

obviously there is no scum motivation behind what you are doing, but there is no town motivation either. Only troll motivation and since this isn't the first game you have trolled, I am certainly not surprised by it.

[Jake from State Farm]

ITT Jake reminding us why he's bad.

You have already proven how bad you are, poor decision making.

[Jake from State Farm]

4 scum members. 0% chance.

How can you say this when I've seen at least 2 games with 4 scum members?

[Jake from State Farm]

What about a SK? Unlikely due to no kills at all but still possible

[Jake from State Farm]

Also why do you say abr accounts for the lack of kill, when its completely possible nik stopped the kill

[Jake from State Farm]

I have conceded that abr is probably town. I have logically ruled out he's not what he says he is because his actions don't support the claim. I have no tolerance for liars in mafia from town cause there's no need to, it also hurts the integrity of the game.

So now we are down to egg is scum or nik is scum, until vyse posts again we won't know what is in his mind. So until then, I'm voting a person who is toxic for the betterment of the game.

Now some will say that getting rid of me would improve the game, and while I completely disagree with that, I can't be gotten rid of this game and lynching me cause dram picked the one person who has the greatest percentage of not being scum with those 2 will just annoy me to the point where I will just shit all over this game making it impossible to follow, aka sinking to abr's level.

So we can sit and wait for vyse or do something useful and lynch a troll.

[Jake from State Farm]

Well I can't believe abr cause he lied, so I believe his claim is also a lie, his actions support that it is a lie. He can't even rationally explain his actions thus confirming he is lying.

Not appealing to fear. I literally won't go away if you lynch me/kill me

[Jake from State Farm]

@Jake, if you won't go away if we lynch you, why do you care whether we lynch you? It seems like this would make you the ideal target for whatever dram did.

Cause I pride myself on not getting mislynched. Especially for something stupid like dram picking the person least likely to be scum with the 2 flipped scum. So the punishment for lynching me will be to deal with my wrath the only way I can

[Jake from State Farm]

I apologize for my frustration earlier, I just really really despise lying. I will be avoiding rampage in future games, his behavior is inexcusable.

vote: vyse

He needs to explain himself and I'm not a fan of the fact he seems to be avoiding the game.

[Jake from State Farm]

thats... odd.

So is a role where you have to pick somebody and get them to die before you can use a night action...

[Jake from State Farm]

Not hardly, its natural to get upset at somebody who goes out of their way to ruin a game. But since you are the person who went out of their way to ruin the game, I wouldn't expect you to.understand.

[Jake from State Farm]

You are being an [redacted]

[Jake from State Farm]

Lying is perfectly acceptable gameplay as either alignment, I just happened to make a very poor deception and then retracted it.

Just going to have to disagree and move on.

[Jake from State Farm]

He was my original scum read coming into day 2, but because things went all batshit cray cray, I don't know what to.think anymore.

[Jake from State Farm]

He seems to be staying right in the middle, he also makes the most sense given the 2 flips imo

[Jake from State Farm]

I realize that but I find it odd that somebody who supposedly has a very unusual role is finding somebody elses very unusual role odd...

[Jake from State Farm]

He seems to be staying right in the middle, he also makes the most sense given the 2 flips imo

We finally agree, after all.

I was on this way back, only got distracted cause of nik's clam about egg and well the rest is history.

I still want to hear from vyse, he has posted a bunch of times today on site but not here. I don't like when people do that

[Jake from State Farm]

Out of everyone in the game, I think Jake and Iece would want to kill me the most.

FWIW (likely not much), I definitely would have killed Niki N1 as scum. No question.

Tbf I think I've towntold extremely hard in multiple posts today.

why would you have killed niki?

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't think he needs to full claim but he need to explain his nik vote

[Jake from State Farm]

Prod dodge. Sorry for lack of content. This has been a really rough week for me.

I'd believe that if you didn't have at least 15 to 20 posts on site yesterday alone...

[Jake from State Farm]

Seems like you are more skeptical of vyse, so why a konowa vote?

[Jake from State Farm]

@dram - let's try something different here. Please explain why you think I am scum, i'd love to see a case from you.

mod, konowa is due for a prod. Have you done this already? If not can you please?

thanks

[Jake from State Farm]

ok re-reading vyse's posts I don't think vyse actually has a guilty or anything. The part that makes me think that is post 494 where he says he is reconsidering what I assume is his read on nik and that he was working from some assumptions. This to me doesn't sound like a guilty.

so now we are down to the claim that nik blocked egg or somehow rampage was targeted or saved somebody (you all know I don't believe his claim because his actions contradict it) and as far as I can tell Nik isn't retracting their claim that they blocked egg

so I think the best lynch today has to be egg

vote: egg

[Jake from State Farm]

It'll really suck if I ever get killed/lynched, I hope the fun.never stops

also hey jake if you're a treestump then why did you post this

Trying to draw a nk through reverse psychology, plus if.I'm dead I'm.not gonna give 2 shits about the game

[Jake from State Farm]

It'll really suck if I ever get killed/lynched, I hope the fun.never stops

also hey jake if you're a treestump then why did you post this

Trying to draw a nk through reverse psychology, plus if.I'm dead I'm.not gonna give 2 shits about the game

but you will give

a

shit?

If.I'm.dead, why would I?

[Jake from State Farm]

Why do you constantly put periods in the middle of sentences?

i was wondering that as well. though i saw.. i think it was kiwi, do it. so i concluded it might be a phone posting thing

Android puts the period button next to the space bar. When I try to space, I hit a period instead

[Jake from State Farm]

Wait, konowa crumbed a role also?

[Jake from State Farm]

I actually had the same thought last night when I read through his iso

[Jake from State Farm]

vote: konowa

[Jake from State Farm]

Null - Nik?

NOTES: Nik: Hate the role, maybe okay with the player. It's hard for me to say, and I'm not going to look over him again tonight. I just want to go to bed.

Then why did you come out calling nik scum?

[Jake from State Farm]

VOTE: Nikanor

Hello! I don't think you're Town. You know why.

I'll try have something more later, when I can actually think about stuff. For now, bed.

Sorry. Not scum but you said.not town and.he knows why...

Explain.this please

[Jake from State Farm]

bc roleblockers are not usually town.

Since when?

[Jake from State Farm]

Role cop is more likely to be a scum role vs a roleblocker

[Jake from State Farm]

Why would anyone kill Jake?

[Jake from State Farm]

How could dram get his thing? Shouldn't he get his thing tonight?

[Jake from State Farm]

How could dram get his thing? Shouldn't he get his thing tonight?

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes, I did switch target.

Also I didn't outright claim because I didnt want to out the specifics of my power :<

You kinda did already, really. I mean, your description pretty much fits the Bookie's description straight up. All I gave was a name.

So, who's the target?

I didn't say it gave me a kill tho.
Also I'm voting Mantis. Clearly there's a reason.

how did you get an action before I was dead?

[Jake from State Farm]

oh I had to look up what a bookie was. now that makes sense. Still shows poor judgement from dram cause there was no chance I was scum especially after that day 1. Hopefully people ignore him for the remainder of the game

[Jake from State Farm]

well since I am dead and about to take a short trip this weekend and will get behind. Later guys Win the game please

[Jake from State Farm]

I called Sera page 5, he was so obv scum lol

[Jake from State Farm]

Sadly... yes. I was explaining the game to him.

tsk tsk lol

that sucks