Mini 1641 - AP and BRO's Excellent Adventure (Game over!)

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VOTE: dramonic

Favoritism isn't cool.

FoS Icerint: Ohmigosh u suck.

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That's because meta only has 50% to do with my original post anyway. If you play or read certain players long enough, you get a feel for their playstyles that beyond certain meta tells. NO ONE HAS THAT EXPERIENCE WITH ME. I HAVE BEEN ABSENT. Is this so mind-bogglingly difficult for you to understand? keep pushing that misrep, man, it's making you look better and better.

Are you just dumb or...?

You said no one should be able to read you well because you haven't played in so long. That heavily implies meta. You responded to everything I said EXCEPT the meta part.

I honestly don't even see what you are calling a misrep there but buzzwords don't work the way they used to.

Unvote, Vote Sera

More confident in this than Dramonic.

Why?

Do you believe Sera's setting you up, then?

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Also going to drop my two cents and say that Penguin_Alien would be my first pick.

She's also probably got the best track record of reading me to date, though it helps that I've only been Town in the games we played together.

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Blatant prod dodge. Sorry guys, having trouble keeping up with commitments. I'll be on here in the next day or two.

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Refreshing myself on the thread now. Thoughts to follow in the next couple of hours or so.

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Refreshing myself on the thread now. Thoughts to follow in the next couple of hours or so.

Fell asleep during the readthrough. >_< (I've gotten maybe two nights worth of sleep the last week.)

Let's try this again.

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P-Edit...Hooray for two Modkills in one phase, I guess. Either way, this really sucks.

So, let's start with a list of reads. #NotWorthTheWait#VyseSucks

Town: Egg, Konowa, Jake
NOTES: Basically I like the way they're sorting through the game. I think I have a grasp on their thought process, and it feels genuine.

Null - Dan, Bankaikiller, Iec, Nik.
NOTES:

Iec has a lot of noise, relative to the rest of the group, but I'm not really getting all that much substance from him. Not really getting the bandwagon on Bank, unless it's just a PL The rest of them just aren't around enough for me to say. I'm a little iffy on Nik's early game, along with Mantis, but it's hard to tell with them being gone for half a week each. Gotta hate lurkers. /hypocrite.

Nullish-Scummy - ABR, Seph, maybe Mantis, maybe Dram.
NOTES: I'm just not buying ABR's disengagement here. Seph's an iffy read. I don't like his early vote on Egg, and there's some tonal stuff that's bothering me on a gut level. On the other hand, I like him better after he got engaged with the rest of the game. Need to sort this one out.

Last two are gut, and I'm going to spend some time thinking them over. (Yeah, it's been forever, I know. In my defense, I got Life'd pretty abruptly. Probably should have just replaced, but I'm at the point where I can keep up now anyway. :/ )

VOTE: ABR

Reads, please.

More in a minute.

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Still posting thoughts/observations/questions/whatever, since they're already written up.

I am wounded.
That's a dumb vote.

@Egg: Do you?

Yes, and I believe I said as much here:

Dramonic - scum. He's got 6 posts and none of them progress the game. Appears active but says nothing. Doesn't mean much unless it continues. However, he did ignore my question. Hell, even "no it's too early" would have looked town even if I disagree with the philosophy.

That's not a case, that's mewling.

Engage us, Dram.

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Vote: Egg

I don't like the mentality behind "i don't expect anyone to be able to read me"

This is the second time it has been made clear that you are not reading the game closely and this one looks like a blatant misrepresentation of the facts. I said that I don't expect anyone to read me

well

, that no one can read me at all. It's not arrogance, it's a plain stating of facts: I don't have a recent meta. No one has played with me recently.

This is a weird vote to me. This looks more like a misread than a misrep, and the lack of curiosity thereafter is pinging me a little.

What do you think of Egg at this point? What's behind the Bank push? Play with me.

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Egg plz

Did Egg's vote here bother you?

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ill put as much effort as dgb last game. oh ika you dont like when players lurk in your game? :O

im not invested in this AT ALL. i apparently only get invested in games where none of the town care to win and lurkers are rewarded. ok then, join the meta if you cant beat it

Not buying this.

At the very least, please don't be the next player to screw us up.

Thanks in advance.

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I'm going to be really disappointed if it is. Two Town Modkills is bad enough, but the alternative basically ruins the game.

I was finally starting to get into the game for real, too.

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So, I kinda want to ask you for any thoughts, but I'm not sure there's any point until this mess gets settled. :/

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VOTE: Nikanor

Hello! I don't think you're Town. You know why.

I'll try have something more later, when I can actually think about stuff. For now, bed.

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Vyse plz

Sorry, I've been getting Life'd. I'm never, ever, ever going to sign up for four games at the same time again. It screws over my playstyle tremendously, along with my ability to analyze anything.

Short version is that I guarantee you that I did not stop the NK. Not claiming anything beyond that. Nik's got me reconsidering a bit, just because I'm working from some assumptions that might not be good on this site. :/

It might actually be Egg, but I was Townreading him before.

I'll sleep on it, and get back to you guys later.

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Dram, could you explain why you'd have chosen Jake as your lynch candidate, last night?

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Prod dodge. Sorry for lack of content. This has been a really rough week for me.

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:GLARE:

:WILTS:

Catching up now.

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He seems to be staying right in the middle, he also makes the most sense given the 2 flips imo

We finally agree, after all.

I was on this way back, only got distracted cause of nik's clam about egg and well the rest is history.

I still want to hear from vyse, he has posted a bunch of times today on site but not here. I don't like when people do that

Sorry. It's easy to post in a game I've already got a grasp on. Not so much in one I've just skimmed over.

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So, it's six A.M. already, and it's going to be past that by the time I post this. This is why I'm having trouble engaging with this game.

First off, since it's obvious, I'll bite. I'm a Rolecop, and my flavor is Bro's Dad Correctly Guessing BRO was going to Walgreens to Buy an Enema. Obviously I targeted Nik last phase. I'm probably going to hit Dram tonight.

I'm hesitating because I was working from a meta assumption from my old site, and I think I'm okay-ish with his recent play. In retrospect, I wish I'd held my crumb until after he'd posted. I just wanted to nab the last scum and get this off my plate.

Thing is, I'm still leaning Town for Egg. His thought process reads fluently to me. I feel like Seph just bounced off him for Towncred.

At this point, my list looks like this.

Town - Jake, ABR,

-Jake's thought process seems pretty easy for me to follow, and not scummy. He's too easily distracted by little stuff. Don't know how to put it better.
-ABR was pinging me because his playstyle felt forced. His engagement with Jake initially pinged me, but after watching how it went, I'm inclined to feel better about ABR.

Null-Town - Konowa, Egg?

NOTES: Liked Konowa D1. He's kinda drifted away lately, and I'm noting he was the first Townread Seph & Egg. That's still a pretty minor point against him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think people are just projecting on to a relatively empty slot. Let's not lynch this. Egg leans Town for me, but the RB has me wary

Null - Nik?

NOTES: Nik: Hate the role, maybe okay with the player. It's hard for me to say, and I'm not going to look over him again tonight. I just want to go to bed.


Scumleans - Dram, Dan, Mantis

NOTES: Dram: Don't get why Dram would target Jake. I don't think Jake was an obvious lynch, nor was setting his theoretical power down like this beneficial for Town. I don't believe him. I'm certainly not lynching Jake without confirming his role.

Mantis needs to post more. His engagement isn't great, and I don't feel like he's really scumhunting.

Dan's just pinging me on a gut level, and I'll sort that out in the morning.

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ABR's "apathy" because fuckTowntheysuck is moot given a recent game where he was Scum.

Can you explain this, please?

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Mantis's return posts don't really make me think she's town. For example, the post about ABR/Jake implies that they're somehow both town and confused, or suspicious, or are they, etc.

Can you explain this, please? Maybe it's just because I'm tired, but I don't have a clue what you're trying to say, except that you don't like Mantis.

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Actually, bump Dan up to Null.

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@Dan - Could I get overview on your reads, please?

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Calling it a night. See ya during the weekend, if I survive the next few hours.

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@Dram - You already know I did, if Frat Bros handled their end correctly. I had to look up your role in the Wiki, but yeah guys, Dram is telling the truth. He gains powers upon the lynch of a targeted player. We can cross Lyncher off our list.

I'm just curious why you didn't claim straight up?

Anyway, who did you target last night? Or can you only do that once your original target is dead?

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Y'know, I actually find all these half-intelligible flavor jokes kinda amusing in their own way. That, and I gather Jake as treestump is going to be a beautiful thing.

In other news, I'm going to try to be on a bit more frequently than last phase, but there are some other games I've promised to catch up with first. Looking forward to Egg's post in the meantime.

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I forgot to mention, Dram is specifically a limited shot Bookie. I'm thinking it's for the best if I keep the number of shots to myself for now.

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Yes, I did switch target.

Also I didn't outright claim because I didnt want to out the specifics of my power :<

You kinda did already, really. I mean, your description pretty much fits the Bookie's description straight up. All I gave was a name.

So, who's the target?

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I'd like for a massclaim.

Why?

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Yeah, scum got really screwed by that crap. It's kinda sad, because this could have been a really cool game, but that stuff really killed my motivation.

Egg, very well played, and likewise to Serra. GG everyone, and hopefully I can play with you all again, sometime.

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Can we be authorized to the topic, pretty please?